Urban Report

Personal Testimony

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Dr. Hollis McEachrane


Series Code: UBR

Program Code: UBR000236A

00:01 Stay tuned to meet a man
00:03 who decided to work with troubled youths
00:05 because he was once one of them.
00:08 My name is Yvonne Lewis
00:10 and you're watching Urban Report.
00:38 Hello and welcome to Urban Report.
00:41 Today, my guest is Dr. Hollis McEachrane,
00:44 chaplain/youth intervention specialist
00:47 and founder/director of Straight-Up Youth Ministries.
00:51 He is a man with a special burden
00:53 for our young men.
00:55 Welcome to Urban Report.
00:57 Thank you for having me.
00:58 Well, Dr. McEachrane, you have an amazing journey.
01:04 I want you to share with us just,
01:07 like, let's talk about your youth,
01:08 let's talk about the kind of family you were born into
01:11 and all of that.
01:13 Let's our viewers know where you come from?
01:16 Well, I was born in Trinidad, West Indies.
01:19 And I grew up there
01:20 for the first five years of my life and then my parents,
01:24 they have moved to Brooklyn, New York.
01:26 Yeah, I hear the little Brooklyn/Trinidad mix
01:30 in the accent.
01:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:33 So you grew up,
01:34 you were born in Trinidad but you went to Brooklyn?
01:37 Yes. What part of Brooklyn?
01:40 Originally it was East New York
01:42 and we stayed there for several years,
01:44 then we moved to Bedford-Stuyvesant
01:49 and then we moved to Crown Heights, Brooklyn.
01:52 What kind of family did you have?
01:56 I grew up in a Christian Seventh-day Adventist family.
01:59 I grew up with four sisters, my father,
02:03 mother was also in the house.
02:05 And it was a very healthy supportive family life
02:10 that I experienced.
02:11 And so, did you...
02:14 Were you in public school or you in private school,
02:17 what kind of schooling did you have?
02:20 I went to public school.
02:22 And then to junior high school
02:25 and I didn't quite make it to high school.
02:29 What happened?
02:31 While in junior high school,
02:32 and I went to Lafayette Senior High School in Brooklyn.
02:36 While there...
02:38 When I got to the eighth grade, I lost interest in school.
02:43 I made some bad choices and,
02:46 but eventually I graduated to the ninth grade.
02:50 And when I went to high school...
02:52 Actually my first week in high school I felt lost.
02:56 I went to Erasmus High School in Brooklyn.
02:58 That was huge. Yeah.
03:00 Erasmus hall, huge.
03:02 Like 5,000 thousand students, right?
03:03 Yeah, it's like a castle.
03:05 When I walked in there the first week I felt lost,
03:09 I mean, when I got to my classroom,
03:11 I sat in the back and I did not understand
03:14 what the teacher was saying or teaching.
03:16 I mean, my mind was not in school at that time.
03:20 So I just started just cutting classes as they say.
03:25 So, let me go back for a second
03:28 because I think there's a point here that...
03:33 that I want to make it...
03:35 I think I read somewhere it's like the sixth,
03:39 seventh grades where boys in particular,
03:42 it's kind of a pivotal time for them academically
03:46 that if they lose interest in school during that time
03:51 and they begin to get lost, kind of lost in the whole,
03:55 in the mix then they start acting out,
03:59 they're not participating in classes
04:01 because they don't get it because they somehow back
04:05 when they were in the sixth, seventh or eighth grades,
04:07 they lost that interest in school.
04:10 Is that kind of what happened to you that whole,
04:14 you got lost and then you couldn't really feel like
04:16 you could catch up?
04:18 Yeah, when I was in fifth grade I got a...
04:22 I experience an educational block
04:24 I want to say.
04:27 The teacher called me to the front of class
04:30 and she had some math, mathematics problems to do
04:35 and she told me to do the long division.
04:37 And I just stood there and I stared at.
04:40 I didn't know how to do,
04:41 I was just frozen and then she said,
04:43 "Go back to your seat."
04:45 And she never explained it to me.
04:47 And from that experience
04:48 I shied away from school somewhat.
04:52 She kind of shamed you, didn't she?
04:54 She did shame me. Yeah.
04:56 And I think, sometimes teachers and parents
04:59 don't understand the effect
05:01 of that kind of behavior on their part, like,
05:04 if they shame the child, it can leave such a scar
05:10 because now you don't really want to try
05:11 'cause you feel like, "I'm a failure, I can't do it.
05:15 I can't do it."
05:16 So she never explained to you...
05:19 So as a teacher she wasn't explaining
05:22 how to do the long division,
05:24 she just gave you the assignments?
05:26 She instructed the class as a whole,
05:28 but I think I needed special attention.
05:31 Okay, okay.
05:32 Did you have any learning disabilities
05:34 or anything like that?
05:35 I don't think so.
05:36 I don't think I had any learning disabilities
05:38 at that age.
05:39 No.
05:41 But you just needed extra attention.
05:43 Yeah, I was good in other subjects,
05:45 social studies and science, I loved social studies.
05:49 They called it social studies back then,
05:50 I loved it
05:52 because it was like traveling out of your classroom
05:53 when you open the book to other places
05:55 in the country and across the Atlantic Ocean,
05:58 you know, you would see these
05:59 in the pictures of the book and read about it.
06:01 So I excelled in social studies,
06:03 I was really good at spelling.
06:05 One of my favorite words was transportation.
06:08 I love to spell.
06:11 But when it came to math,
06:13 I think, that particular teacher
06:15 established a block in me for math.
06:20 So after that it was,
06:22 that was kind of a turning point for you academically?
06:25 Yes, it was. Okay.
06:26 What happened after that?
06:28 I became oppositional defiant, ODD,
06:32 oppositional defiant disorderly, my behaviors...
06:35 I fought a lot not because I was intentional
06:40 but the school I went to...
06:43 Guys, the boys would challenge to fight.
06:45 I remember walking home and I had to fight my way home,
06:48 you know.
06:50 And God, He gave me the strength of Samson.
06:53 I remember, several times when I was jumped from behind
06:57 and I just without any training,
06:59 I just flipped this guy over my back
07:02 and pounced on him and got up and started walking.
07:06 And another time, another incident was that
07:09 there was a gang...
07:10 I lived on Bedford Avenue in Bedford-Stuyvesant.
07:13 Okay? Yeah, ooh, yes.
07:15 But I didn't like to play or hang out on Bedford Avenue.
07:18 I was about nine years old.
07:20 I went to Park Place, nobody knows about Park Place really
07:23 but I went to Park Place
07:25 and that was a very nice in a brownstone neighborhood.
07:27 And the guys from my block came to Park Place
07:31 and they surrounded me, okay?
07:35 And one of them was the leader and he was the bully.
07:38 So, you know, back then we were clean fighters with our hands,
07:41 you know, we...
07:42 No weapons.
07:43 No weapons, we fought with our fists, you know.
07:45 So they surrounded me
07:47 and then the leader came out
07:49 into the middle of the circle, okay?
07:51 And then he started challenging me
07:53 and calling me names
07:54 and I had no other way to go home,
07:57 I had to fight my way out to go home.
08:00 So we got to fight it and scrapping, right,
08:03 me and this guy.
08:04 Just you and him? Just me and him, one on one.
08:06 And his boys just stood around us, okay?
08:08 And it was a clean fight because nobody jumped in,
08:11 and when I started getting the best of him,
08:14 he wind up with his back in the streets
08:18 'cause we were in the streets.
08:19 His back was on the street looking up at me
08:21 and I was pouncing on him, you know.
08:23 And then he said, "Break, break."
08:26 And I let go, I stood up and his boys opened up
08:31 and I walked through and went home.
08:34 Wow.
08:35 You know, I think that
08:38 people who don't live in the hood so to speak,
08:42 in the inner cities,
08:44 people who don't live there have no idea
08:47 as to how much danger children are at.
08:50 It's a war zone. It is.
08:51 Children can't even walk to school
08:54 without either being jumped or the threat of being jumped
08:58 or seeing somebody that's been killed
09:00 or I mean, it's a war zone.
09:03 Yeah.
09:05 And so you had to fight through that...
09:07 I had to. To get, even to get home.
09:10 And God gave you the strength...
09:12 God gave me amazing strength.
09:13 I don't know how I did all these things,
09:15 you know, I was a little guy, you know, and these guys
09:17 were like bullies and bigger than me,
09:19 and then I had a friend,
09:20 you know, who shadowed me, you know.
09:22 He was bigger and stronger, he's like a Mike Tyson.
09:25 And when I couldn't handle the guys that were stronger,
09:28 bigger than me he stepped in
09:30 and he knocked them down and out.
09:31 Wow.
09:33 So, you know, God took care of me
09:34 for a purpose in His life.
09:36 You know, people hear you say that and they say like,
09:39 "Well, God didn't do that."
09:41 But you know what, God protected you.
09:42 He sure did.
09:44 He protected you, He gave what you...
09:45 You what you needed to survive, we're talking survival.
09:49 So that, your eighth grade experience really
09:54 was kind of like the turning point academically.
09:57 Then you started acting out
09:59 and you started being oppositional to your parents?
10:03 Were you oppositional to your parents
10:04 or just teachers?
10:06 To the teachers, you know.
10:07 I respected my parents, you know, but to my teachers,
10:12 you know, I wouldn't...
10:13 didn't want to do my work.
10:15 In the eighth grade my academics went down
10:19 and it just wasn't working for me.
10:22 So what did you do, did you do anything
10:25 that got you into legal trouble?
10:29 At that time in eighth grade my friends, they would...
10:33 When we cut classes we would go and get some wine.
10:38 They call it Wild Irish Rose or something like that.
10:40 Cheap wine. Yeah, the cheap wine.
10:43 And, you know, age 14 and 15, you know, we would, you know,
10:47 drink that, you know.
10:48 And I would get drunk,
10:52 you know, and couldn't make it to school,
10:55 couldn't make it back to class
10:57 because we would go to school then we cut classes, you know.
11:00 And that's what the boys did back then and,
11:02 you know, they would open the bottle
11:04 and drop one on the ground for the boys upstate.
11:08 In juvie?
11:10 In juvie and the boys who did.
11:12 Wow. That's how we did it back then.
11:14 We had the tight brotherhood but it was,
11:17 for the most part negative experience.
11:19 Right.
11:20 Did your parents know that you were drinking at this point?
11:22 Yes, my father did a test on me.
11:25 He did a psychological test I want to say, you know.
11:30 He got a fifth.
11:33 And he put it on the top of the closet.
11:37 And I came home and, you know,
11:39 go to closet and hang out my coat
11:40 and I looked up and saw that bottle up there.
11:44 And I reached up for it and I took it.
11:47 And my father was like, "Ah, my only son," you know.
11:51 Because he would probably smell it but he would know,
11:53 you know, but he physically saw me reach for that.
11:58 Right. Right. That bottle, yeah.
12:00 So what did your parents do?
12:02 What kind of measures did they take
12:04 after they found out that
12:05 you were really headed down the wrong path?
12:08 Well, at that time my mother wanted me out of the country,
12:14 okay?
12:15 Out of Brooklyn...
12:17 She didn't just want you out of the Brooklyn,
12:18 she wanted to send you out of the country?
12:20 Out of the country.
12:21 So she put me on a plane
12:25 and I remember that night.
12:29 The night that I was supposed to leave Brooklyn,
12:33 I went down to the school called Wingate High School...
12:36 Yeah, Wingate, yeah.
12:38 On Brooklyn road down there
12:39 and that's where everything was happening, you know.
12:41 That's where everybody, the dealers, the players,
12:44 everybody were out there hanging out.
12:45 And I went down there to hang out
12:47 and this is the day,
12:49 the night I'm supposed to leave,
12:50 the day before I was supposed to be leaving.
12:52 And I just hung out down there.
12:54 And it was about,
12:57 I think it was little after 12 going into the early morning
13:00 and I'm supposed to leave that following morning on a plane.
13:05 To this day in my life I don't understand
13:07 but my mother comes down to the park a little after 12
13:11 and she said to me, "Son, go home."
13:15 She was a nurse,
13:16 she was dressed in white and she said, "Son, go home."
13:19 And I looked at my mom, I'm wondering,
13:22 "What is she doing here?
13:23 How does she know I'm here
13:25 and how does she come down here at this hour of the morning?"
13:29 And I looked at her
13:31 and I don't remember respond in a sense
13:32 I just went home.
13:35 I woke up, it was time for me to get on the plane
13:38 and my mom sent me out of Brooklyn,
13:41 out of the country.
13:42 And I stayed in Trinidad for six months.
13:44 And when I went down there it was a beautiful experience
13:49 but still I wasn't getting it.
13:51 I wasn't getting it, you know...
13:52 Were you hanging with the wrong crowd in Trinidad?
13:54 Yes, I was, again.
13:56 You know, again, I was with the wrong crowd,
13:58 I was with the guys who like that ganja.
14:04 They wanted to fight me, they said, "Yankee," you know,
14:06 they call me, they say,
14:07 "Yankee, come here, can you fight?"
14:09 And they just wanted to fight, you know, smoke the ganja
14:13 and so forth and so on.
14:15 And the six months I spent down there was an experience
14:20 but I met a friend of mine
14:22 that later became a teacher at Oakwood,
14:24 but you know, I don't want to...
14:27 Yeah, jumping ahead of that. Yeah.
14:29 So you were there, you picked up now a new habit
14:33 which is the ganja, right?
14:35 Because you weren't, were you doing that in New York?
14:37 Yeah. Okay, okay.
14:39 So this was just kind of an extension
14:41 of what you were doing in New York...
14:42 But not as much in New York.
14:44 Down at Trinidad it's prolific. Yeah.
14:47 You know, they have so much, you know, open spacing,
14:50 you know, property to grow it in the backyards,
14:53 in the back country.
14:55 It was...
14:56 And for those who don't know what ganja is marijuana, right?
14:59 That's what they call it. Yeah.
15:01 I had to check and see, make sure I was right
15:03 'cause I don't want to give you wrong information.
15:05 So yeah, so, okay.
15:06 So you go there for six months, you come back,
15:10 what happens when you come back?
15:12 Oh, I'm just sniffing and smelling
15:14 the streets of Brooklyn.
15:16 I get a taxi at the airport from the JFK
15:21 and he's driving through Brooklyn.
15:24 And I'm so happy, I'm looking at the garbage cans,
15:27 I'm looking at the stoops, I'm looking at the brownstones,
15:30 I'm just elated, you know, I'm back in the neighborhood,
15:34 I'm back on the block and I'm loving the sights,
15:37 smelling the food burning,
15:40 you know, I just can't wait to get back into my mess.
15:43 Yeah, yeah to hang with your old buds.
15:45 To hang with my old boys.
15:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:48 So what happened?
15:49 Well, at that time
15:52 my parents wanted me to go to a Christian school,
15:58 you know, Gradient, New York.
16:01 And I felt lost there too.
16:02 I went there too by the way. Yeah, I felt lost.
16:05 I just wasn't processing school in my head, you know.
16:10 I just, I don't think...
16:12 How old were you at this time?
16:13 I was, I think I was 16. Okay.
16:16 I don't think...
16:18 I don't, you know, maybe teachers didn't have time
16:20 to take time with, you know, a troubled youth, you know.
16:25 So you went there, did you flunk out or...?
16:27 I flunk straight out.
16:29 I stopped going.
16:31 Wow.
16:32 So how were your parents handling this like,
16:34 were they like, ready to pull their hair out,
16:38 were they angry at you,
16:39 were they worried, what was their reaction?
16:42 My mother and father, they prayed a lot for me.
16:48 You know, they would have sometimes
16:49 their friends come over,
16:52 church friends come over and visit the house,
16:53 and I would hear them calling my name in prayer
16:56 and I would leave the house, you know.
17:01 That went on like that, you know.
17:03 My mother would counsel me, my mother knew how to,
17:06 she knew how to talk to me.
17:08 She would say, "Son, only the strong survive."
17:13 There was a song back then.
17:15 Yeah. Only the strong survive.
17:16 And she say, "How you doing, son?
17:18 You cool?" I say, "I'm okay, mom."
17:21 And she say, "Son, you know,
17:23 my friends tell me you're going through a stage
17:26 and you're gonna get through this," you know.
17:29 And I listen to her, you know.
17:32 Sweet.
17:34 That was sweet, you know, she was positive,
17:36 she was giving you some kind of positive,
17:41 some kind of affirmation actually...
17:42 Definitely.
17:43 That, you know, you're going to make it through this.
17:45 But she knew she was praying
17:47 and that's why you would make it.
17:48 Yes.
17:49 So what was the worst, the biggest challenge
17:54 that you had as a young person?
17:57 What happened to you legally?
17:59 Okay, so...
18:03 I think I was about 19 at the time.
18:08 Well, before that at age 17, I was 17.
18:14 My mom took me to a drug rehab, downtown Brooklyn.
18:21 And I saw the judge.
18:24 And he gave me three years probation.
18:30 You saw a judge?
18:31 Yeah.
18:32 Wait, you got arrested for drugs?
18:36 What happened there...?
18:40 This was a drug program.
18:43 Why?
18:44 My mom took me to.
18:45 Why?
18:47 But how did the judge get involved with the drug program?
18:50 I got, I think I got,
18:52 if I recall I got arrested, okay.
18:56 And the judge gave me this program.
19:00 Okay. And that's what happened.
19:01 Okay. Yeah.
19:03 So the judge gave you,
19:06 you know, you had to do time with this program
19:10 in other words.
19:11 It's a three year program, I was 17 at the time.
19:13 Okay.
19:14 And it was a three year program and I had to...
19:17 The first initial program was three months.
19:20 And if I...
19:23 They found anything in my system
19:25 then I'll be violated.
19:26 And I was violated three times.
19:29 So had you moved to heavier drugs?
19:32 Yes. Okay, like?
19:35 Heroin. Yeah. Okay.
19:36 And so, now this is...
19:41 This to me and I talk about this
19:43 on Urban Report a lot.
19:45 How Satan just takes you from this point
19:49 and just wants to bring you down, down, down.
19:52 So you start out with just some alcohol
19:55 and some marijuana and then it moves to,
19:59 you know, other things, cocaine, heroin, whatever.
20:01 And you are spiraling downward.
20:04 Your life is being destroyed which is Satan's plan.
20:08 That's the plan. To destroy you.
20:10 So what happened when you went into that program?
20:14 Did you, not the three month one
20:16 but the three year one, did you violate that one too?
20:19 Yes, I did. Okay.
20:20 I violated...
20:23 When I was given three years in the program,
20:27 I got violated three times because I, you know,
20:30 I had that, I had ingested it.
20:32 Right.
20:33 I mean, when I went to report to see my PO,
20:37 they obviously, you know, detected it.
20:40 Right.
20:41 And, so while in that program I would try to do it
20:48 and clean myself out.
20:51 And it, for the most part never worked.
20:56 Because you were trying it on your own.
20:57 Right.
20:59 So at what point did you decide that Jesus is the way for me
21:02 to get my life straight?
21:04 Okay.
21:05 So at 19,
21:11 I was, at age 19
21:12 I was hanging out in Manhattan on 14th street,
21:18 midtown lower Manhattan.
21:21 And I was with my girlfriend.
21:23 And we were just, you know, chilling.
21:26 It was about 1 o'clock in the morning.
21:29 Worst time for anyone to be out,
21:32 for any good Christian Adventist
21:34 to be out on Friday night.
21:35 Right.
21:37 I just want to say the devil is most...
21:38 I feel the devil is most busy on Friday night.
21:41 That's what I want to say, you know.
21:43 And it was on Friday night,
21:45 it was about 1 am in the morning.
21:48 We were just walking and out of the blue comes NYPD.
21:53 And they put on their brakes, they jump out of the car
21:58 and they slam us against this store,
22:00 the store front that's closed.
22:04 And they take out their flashlights
22:07 and one of the cops went to this garbage can
22:10 and he put his hand against it, "Oh, look what I found."
22:13 And he came to me and said, "What are you doing with this?"
22:15 I said, "You know, you are wrong."
22:18 I said, "You're supposed to be upholding justice
22:19 and here you are trying to plant this on me."
22:22 I said, "It's not mine."
22:23 And that's the honest truth that it's not mine.
22:26 What did he pull out, a weapon or drugs?
22:28 Marijuana. Okay, drugs, okay.
22:29 I said, "It's not mine."
22:31 I said, "You're supposed to be upholding the law
22:32 and here you are breaking the law," you know.
22:36 And he looked at me and he says, "Shut up."
22:39 And then they took out their blue black jack,
22:41 about this long, you know.
22:42 It's bound in leather and it's flexible.
22:47 And he came over to me
22:48 and started flexing it in my face like that.
22:53 I just want to make sure that I get this.
22:55 You and your girlfriend are walking down the street,
22:59 just walking.
23:00 Not bothering anybody, just walking and NYPD
23:05 just comes up put you up against the wall
23:09 and the cop goes and pulls out some drugs and accuses it,
23:14 accuses you of the drugs being yours?
23:16 Yeah.
23:17 No provocation, you didn't do anything?
23:20 See I think, the reason why I'm emphasizing this is
23:22 because there are so many people
23:24 who watch these programs,
23:26 who have no clue that those kinds of things do happen.
23:30 They happen all the time.
23:32 It's not, you know, it's not like they rarely happen,
23:35 they happen all the time.
23:37 And this is, you know,
23:38 not every policeman is like this
23:40 but there are a lot of policemen who do this.
23:42 And I think that your situation,
23:45 you know, is not, it's not uncommon.
23:49 So what happened...
23:50 So he had the stick
23:51 and he's starting to hit you with the stick.
23:53 Yeah.
23:54 So immediately I come to the conclusion
23:59 that he is trying to prompt me to respond
24:02 so that he could have or they could have a reason,
24:04 you know, to arrest me.
24:06 So I said to myself,
24:08 "I'm not going to do anything," okay.
24:10 So then he went to my girlfriend
24:12 and he started doing the same thing to her.
24:14 So I'm watching him and then he put...
24:16 raised the black jack up over her head...
24:21 Like he's going to hit her. Yeah.
24:23 And I just jumped at him,
24:26 you know, to prevent or stop him from hitting her.
24:29 Right.
24:30 And when I leapt toward him
24:32 they both went like that towards me,
24:34 have to say, "Aha-aha."
24:36 And they rained on me the worst beating in my life.
24:40 They beat me in my head, I had to get four stitches.
24:44 They beat me unconscious, I fell on the concrete sidewalk
24:47 and hit my forehead
24:49 and then they cuffed me in the back,
24:52 put me in the car.
24:53 And the cop that sat in the passenger side,
24:57 I'm cuffed like this
24:59 and they're taking me to Bellevue Hospital,
25:01 well, that's where they took me.
25:03 I don't know where they were taking,
25:04 but it's where they took me.
25:05 And I'm cuffed like this
25:07 and the cop sitting in front of me
25:08 on the passenger side he turned around
25:10 just started beating me in my face
25:12 and hit me in my head, hit in my chest.
25:14 Just beat me, I'm helpless like this
25:16 and he is, he's still beating me.
25:18 Why? Where is your girlfriend?
25:20 Did they arrest her as well? No.
25:22 Okay. No.
25:23 So they took me to Bellevue and the doctor in ER,
25:25 he was so...
25:27 He didn't say one word, he looked at me
25:28 and looked at the cops and he just attended to me
25:31 and released me and then they took me to the jail.
25:36 And the good cop, I want to say good cop,
25:40 he said, "Go upstairs and wash up."
25:44 So I went upstairs to wash...
25:45 I had a little afro back then.
25:47 It was all matted with blood,
25:48 I had a big patch on my head now.
25:50 I had blood on my clothes.
25:51 He said, "Go upstairs and wash up."
25:53 And I went upstairs in the bathroom,
25:54 so the other cop, that's the bad cop,
25:56 he came up and took off his pistol belt
25:58 put it on the desk by the sink and said, "Come on, come on."
26:03 I'm looking at him, I'm dazed and tired and beaten.
26:06 I'm looking at him and his partner comes up and says,
26:09 "Leave him alone.
26:11 Leave him alone."
26:12 This is the one that was beating you up in the car?
26:14 Yes.
26:15 So he wants to continue, see that...
26:18 Oh, he wants to continue the whole confrontation thing
26:22 and you're just like,
26:23 just trying to deal with what's happened.
26:26 Okay, go ahead. Absolutely.
26:28 Oh my goodness.
26:29 So he leaves me alone, so they lock me up.
26:32 In the morning I see the judge, okay?
26:35 And the judge assigned me a public defender
26:39 and he did a really good job, he did.
26:42 He defended me and he got me off
26:46 and they dismissed the case.
26:48 Did you tell him
26:50 what the police had done to you?
26:51 Yeah.
26:52 I told it to the defender at that time.
26:54 But there was no recourse for you, right?
26:55 Because there's nothing you can do about it.
26:57 I mean, as far as being beat up like that?
26:58 Yeah.
27:00 Ah, they didn't do nothing about that.
27:01 Yeah. They didn't do nothing about that.
27:03 Yeah. Okay.
27:04 But he kept my record clean
27:05 by not putting down that I was arrested.
27:08 Drugs, because it wasn't...
27:09 I didn't have it on me. Right.
27:11 So I was allowed to go home and I got on the subway
27:16 and while I'm sitting in a subway car,
27:19 like this is around March and it's cold outside, right?
27:23 So I see this guy walked in
27:25 and sat right in front of me with no coat,
27:27 no shoes and I'm looking at him and he's looking at me
27:30 because we're both looking messed up.
27:32 Yeah.
27:33 It's not funny but yeah, yeah.
27:34 And I'm feeling, "Wow, that could be me,
27:39 you know, in a few years.
27:41 I could be a vagrant no place to live, no shoes,
27:44 you know, cold in the dead of winter."
27:46 So my mind started thinking.
27:49 So I went home, my mom saw me, she said,
27:51 "Son, go take a bath."
27:54 She put some warm water, I took a bath,
27:56 woke up in the morning, probation,
27:59 my probation officer knocks on the door,
28:01 he arrest me and takes me downtown.
28:03 And.
28:05 I'm violated again for the third time, final time.
28:09 Was this is the three strikes deal?
28:11 Yeah. Oh, my, my.
28:14 Wow. Okay, so go ahead.
28:16 So I see the judge and he gives me,
28:21 he said, "You're going to max out."
28:24 Meaning, I have eight more months to do.
28:28 So usually it's for three months,
28:30 a three month bid, you know, a three day bid.
28:34 But he says to me, "You're gonna max out.
28:37 You're going to finish off the entire three year program,"
28:40 because I'm maxed out in September, you know, '75.
28:44 So I did my whole bid
28:48 and I maxed out and I came home.
28:51 My father said to me, "Son, make your room your prison."
28:58 'Cause I did that.
29:00 And I tell you, you know, Dr. Lewis,
29:02 I began to pray and read my Bible.
29:07 Now this is after you came out?
29:08 Yeah.
29:10 Your dad said, "Make your room your prison."
29:12 In other words, stay in that room
29:15 and get it together,
29:17 that's basically what he was saying.
29:18 Absolutely.
29:20 And so that's what started you praying.
29:22 Yes.
29:23 And not just that but, you know,
29:25 I did a lot of reflection,
29:26 you know, self reflection of how I got to this last bid,
29:30 you know, and I start looking at my future, you know,
29:33 and I got concerned about
29:35 how things would turn out for my life.
29:37 And I really got concerned.
29:38 And I prayed a prayer, I never forget,
29:41 and I said, "Dear God,
29:43 show me the purpose for my life."
29:47 Come on now, you're gonna make me cry.
29:49 That's what I prayed. Oh, yes.
29:51 And He did. He did.
29:53 How did He show you? What did He do?
29:56 You know, I don't like telling to many people this
30:00 because, you know, but I was straight,
30:03 I was clean, I was clear and I was lucid in my thinking.
30:07 And after being home for two weeks,
30:11 friends came knocking on my door.
30:14 And I tell my sisters, "Tell them I'm not home."
30:17 My sister said, "I'm not gonna lie for you."
30:19 So I said, "Okay, I'm going to go up on the roof,
30:20 now tell them I'm not home."
30:22 And one particular friend came,
30:24 very close friend of mine
30:25 and I said, "I'm going to talk to him."
30:26 So I went outside and I said, "Yo, you know, I don't do this,
30:29 you know, I'm changed now, you know."
30:31 I said, "You know, I'm not the same Hollis
30:34 that you used to know."
30:36 And he looked at me, you know, he just looked at me and...
30:39 I don't remember what he said
30:40 but, you know, I know what I said to him, you know.
30:42 I explained to him, this is not what I'm doing anymore.
30:46 And he acknowledged that and he turned around
30:49 and started walking down the block.
30:50 And I stood there and watched him
30:52 walk down the long block,
30:54 you know, until he turned the bend
30:57 and disappeared, you know.
31:01 I'm going to get back to your question
31:02 but that same friend became a career criminal,
31:09 going through, you know, the cycle endure of civitism
31:13 just going back and forth, back and forth.
31:15 Did a 10 year bid.
31:19 So when I asked God to show me the purpose for my life,
31:23 I had this dream as clear as a bell.
31:30 That dream changed my life.
31:33 Come on.
31:34 Tell us, what was the dream about?
31:36 Yeah.
31:38 I dreamt that I was in a different environment
31:42 than what we wake up to every day,
31:45 this earthly environment.
31:47 And I'm looking at myself in this dream
31:49 because, you know, you're dreaming,
31:50 you're seeing yourself.
31:52 Right, right.
31:53 And I'm seeing myself in this environment
31:54 and I want to say it's a heavenly environment.
31:59 Okay?
32:01 Because that's what I dreamt in the dream
32:02 and that's what I acknowledged in that dream, you know.
32:05 And I saw myself standing
32:08 in the presence of someone sitting in a throne.
32:13 Yeah.
32:15 And as I looked at myself in this dream,
32:19 I saw myself walked to the left
32:21 and do a 360 around this person in this throne,
32:25 just looking at this person,
32:27 you know, just looking, you know.
32:30 And then I came back around
32:31 and stood in front of this person
32:33 and I looked into His face
32:34 and I could not see His eyes, nose, or mouth,
32:36 all I saw was intense bright light.
32:41 And at that point I saw myself
32:44 just without being any intention,
32:48 just fall on my knees
32:51 and my forehead touched His feet.
32:54 And then I heard a voice.
32:57 The voice said to me, "One thousand years," yes.
33:03 And then I stood up and when I stood up,
33:07 I saw that I was changed, I looked like Him.
33:13 Wow.
33:15 I looked like Him.
33:18 I was no longer in physical clothes,
33:20 I was beaming with bright light.
33:23 Yeah.
33:24 Reflecting His light.
33:26 Reflected His light. Wow.
33:28 Yeah. What a beautiful dream.
33:31 So when you woke up...
33:33 It was not finished yet.
33:34 Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. Go ahead. Go ahead.
33:37 So as I stood there,
33:40 I saw myself in this dream moving away.
33:46 I want to say backsliding.
33:49 You know, how you moon walk backwards.
33:50 Yes, yes.
33:51 In the dream I saw myself moving backwards,
33:57 away from the presence of who I now say is God
34:00 in that dream.
34:02 And I heard another voice, the same voice said two words.
34:07 It said, "Come back."
34:12 And that just played and played in my head.
34:15 When I woke up, I sat on my bed and pondered that dream
34:19 and I shared it with my father.
34:20 My father said, "Son,
34:22 God has revealed Himself to you to come back," you know.
34:28 As a result of that dream I said,
34:30 "Daddy, I want to study the ministry."
34:33 And he laughed at me.
34:37 Not, you know, facetious type.
34:39 It was just like...
34:41 because my dad was a pastor, I'm PK.
34:43 Oh, you're a PK, Oh, wow. You are a PK.
34:46 He was a pastor.
34:48 God bless him. Yes.
34:49 And he says, "Son, be a medical doctor."
34:54 Yeah, he said, "Go to Guatila, Mexico, study medicine,
34:57 and come back to the States and take your boards."
34:59 I said, "Dad, I want to be, I want to study ministry."
35:03 He was very, you know, democratic and he said,
35:06 "Well, son, go to Oakwood and then go to Andrews
35:10 and go to the seminary."
35:13 And I said, "Okay."
35:14 My mom snatched me and she said,
35:17 "I want you off the streets now."
35:20 She didn't say like that
35:21 but, you know, she wanted me off the streets.
35:23 Right. And how old were you at this point?
35:25 I was 20.
35:26 Okay.
35:27 And she said, "I want you off the streets."
35:30 And I always listen to my mom. I love my mama.
35:34 Always listen...
35:35 I listen to my dad too, you know, my mom, she just.
35:37 You're real close to your mom. Yeah.
35:39 I said, "Okay, mom."
35:41 So she took me about her hand
35:43 and we walked several city blocks
35:46 down Bedford into Bed-Stuy down there
35:49 I think by St. Marks, for those of you
35:51 who are from Brooklyn.
35:53 Down to St. Marks and Dean Street,
35:55 Pacific and Atlantic Avenue.
35:56 Yeah, Atlantic Avenue and Bedford Avenue.
35:58 And she took me to...
36:00 And introduced me to Army recruiter.
36:04 And she explained to him, this is my only son
36:06 and I want him to be enlisted into the army.
36:09 And he looked at me,
36:12 he was from Vietnam and he was big.
36:14 He had scars on his face and I could see that
36:17 he medicated himself through alcohol.
36:21 But he was the nicest guy I ever met.
36:24 I call him Sergeant K. Okay?
36:28 And he received me and processed me in.
36:30 And army wasn't my choice.
36:36 But for that day and time and for my experience
36:42 I needed that type of discipline
36:43 because it made me into a better person.
36:46 I excelled in the military.
36:49 When I was in boot camp they singled me out
36:51 and made me a squad leader.
36:53 Then I went to AIT which is advanced individual training.
36:56 Again, they singled me out and made me a squad leader,
36:59 and they gave me heavy assignments.
37:02 And it made me, it helped me to become a responsible person.
37:07 You know, I was in there for, it was six years,
37:10 you know, the reserves, army reserves six years.
37:14 And, you know, I came home of course and I worked.
37:18 And then I went to Medgar Evers College
37:22 in Brooklyn.
37:23 Some of us know Medgar Evers, Shalom in the back.
37:27 I went to his college.
37:29 And I took junior course, junior college courses
37:33 and then I weaved my way in the direction of Oakwood.
37:39 So your plan even while you were in the military
37:42 was still to go to Oakwood or you doing it just,
37:45 you know, you're going to do the military thing first
37:48 and then go to Oakwood, that was your plan?
37:51 My plan was to go straight to the Oakwood
37:54 but my mother, she wanted me,
37:55 you know, to commit, you know, into the military
37:58 because she talked with her girlfriends,
38:01 "Get your son off the street now
38:03 and put him in the military."
38:05 Were you slipping back when she did this?
38:08 No.
38:09 Oh, so she just wanted to kind of make sure
38:12 you didn't slip back?
38:13 Yes, she wanted to make sure that I was,
38:16 you know, out of New York, out of streets and she did.
38:22 So you went to the military and then you went to Oakwood?
38:24 Yes.
38:26 And you...
38:27 What's your major in at Oakwood?
38:29 Theology. Okay.
38:30 But it gets better. Come on.
38:32 Before it gets, well, I say better or worse.
38:35 I went to Oakwood,
38:37 I was convicted but not converted.
38:44 Now explain that?
38:45 Okay.
38:47 I always see a lot of convicts in the church.
38:53 I was convicted that I love God, God love me.
38:59 But I didn't have,
39:00 my social awareness was not heightened,
39:03 my myself awareness was not heightened, you know.
39:05 I went down over to a friend,
39:10 platonic relationship I want to say this
39:11 right upfront.
39:13 A very good close friend of mine
39:15 that live right next door to me in Brooklyn, okay?
39:18 And when I went down there I was not focused, you know,
39:22 I cared and attended, you know, to her special needs
39:25 because she had two children, two little girls, you know.
39:28 And I helped her out, you know, and I didn't have time to study
39:33 and my GPA went down to 1.8, 1.18.
39:38 And Dr. Rock, Kelvin Rock,
39:41 you know, he called me to the office,
39:42 they had a meeting, they said, "You can't stay here anymore."
39:47 They put you on academic probation?
39:49 They put me, they put me out to get academic probation.
39:55 They said to me, "This is what we can do for you.
39:59 You can leave here and then go to another school,
40:01 and bring your GPA up and then you can come back."
40:06 So I started thinking. "Where can I go?"
40:09 I was really focused on the ministry,
40:12 I wanted badly, not for self glorification.
40:15 The Word of God was just burning in my heart.
40:21 So I said, "I got to get my GPA up."
40:24 And I went to Hunter College.
40:26 Oh, yeah, in New York? Yeah.
40:28 And this individual person who worked in,
40:33 I think was the dean's office,
40:34 she said to me, nice lady with blonde hair,
40:37 beautiful lady.
40:38 She said, "You don't belong here."
40:42 She said, "You don't belong here."
40:45 So I said to her, "I'm going to walk out of here
40:47 but I'm not going to give you my back,
40:48 I'm just going to walk out backwards."
40:49 And so I told her.
40:51 I walked out backwards.
40:53 And I politely took it.
40:55 What did she mean that you didn't belong there?
40:57 I don't know.
40:58 Well...
40:59 I don't know.
41:01 But they let you in with the 1.8?
41:04 Who? Hunter.
41:05 No. This was my application to get in.
41:10 Wait, I'm little confused.
41:11 So after you left Oakwood, you went to Hunter?
41:14 I went to Hunter to process in.
41:16 To bring the grades up so to go back to Oakwood.
41:19 Yeah.
41:20 And they let you in or they didn't let you in?
41:22 They did not let me in.
41:23 She said to me, "You don't belong here."
41:25 Okay.
41:26 Maybe God was speaking through her, I don't know.
41:28 Okay.
41:29 So what did you do then?
41:31 So I got angry, you know, I got upset.
41:33 I said, "I'm leaving this country."
41:36 So I did some research and I found that
41:39 there's Adventist University in Solusi,
41:42 South Africa, not south but Solusi, Africa.
41:45 Okay. Down Harare somewhere in there.
41:48 So I called and sent the application in
41:52 and then I got a phone call
41:55 from Solusi SDA University in Africa.
42:00 And I was excited, you know.
42:02 Right.
42:04 And this woman said to me, "You know Hollis?
42:08 I said, "Yes." She said, "I think I know you."
42:13 And she began to talk and so I said, "I'm not going."
42:18 I said, "I'm not going." I said, "I'm not going."
42:22 She's telling me she knows me and this and that.
42:24 And I said, "I'm not going."
42:27 All I'm thinking about is getting on track with God.
42:30 That's all that's burning in my heart.
42:33 So then I applied to Andrews University.
42:36 And they say, "Come."
42:37 And I prayed about that. They say, "Come."
42:40 And I went.
42:43 And just to fast forward,
42:45 I don't know if I'm jumping ahead or jumping back,
42:47 just let me know but when I went to Andrews,
42:50 I met a very good friend of the family
42:53 who went to Oakwood
42:54 with my sisters to Pine Forge and Oakwood
42:56 and she was like a sister to me.
42:58 She's still a sister to me.
43:00 Brothers and sisters fight.
43:01 Right. Okay.
43:03 So she's still sister to me.
43:05 And she said, "Hollis, you have to meet my cousin."
43:10 And I'm there to study,
43:11 you know, get my GPA up, you know.
43:13 She said, "You have to meet." I said, "I'm in Lamson Hall."
43:17 And she walks and she says, "You have to meet my cousin.
43:19 Come with me right now."
43:21 So I get up and she's walking like
43:22 she's walking through the streets of New York real fast,
43:24 in those high heels, right?
43:26 So she goes to my hall across campus
43:29 and we go into the auditorium.
43:33 And she said, "Teresa, I want you to meet Hollis,
43:36 a very good friend of the family.
43:39 And she said, "Teresa, this is Hollis.
43:42 Hollis, this is my cousin Teresa."
43:45 Teresa looks at me and she says, "Okay.
43:47 Nice meeting you.
43:48 I got to go to Chicago to meet my aunt now."
43:53 She takes off to go to Chicago to meet her aunty.
43:57 Long story short, we started dating.
44:00 When, now wait.
44:01 Did you like Teresa when you met her?
44:03 Yes. Okay.
44:04 I prayed. Let me back up a little.
44:06 I prayed and ask God regarding Teresa.
44:11 I had a dream.
44:12 I know lot of guys that had a dream about this woman
44:14 but I had a dream.
44:17 I saw Teresa's name in the sky, and it's the honest truth.
44:20 I saw her name in the sky.
44:22 And right under her name, I saw the word exquisite.
44:27 And I told Teresa about that dream.
44:30 And if she were here today, she would say, "Yes, you did."
44:33 And I said, "Honey, you have substance."
44:37 And we started dating.
44:39 And my dad called me and says,
44:42 "Son, I got a letter from Oakwood
44:44 and they want you to come back,"
44:46 because my GPA went up to 2.78 like a B plus.
44:49 Why?
44:51 Teresa was in education too. So, you know, that helped me.
44:54 So Oakwood wanted me to come back.
44:59 And I said, "Honey," Well, I didn't say honey, you know,
45:02 like that.
45:04 I'm thinking, you know. Yeah.
45:06 I said, "Teresa, I got a letter from Oakwood
45:11 and they want me to come back."
45:14 I said, "Will you go with me?"
45:16 She said. "I'm not going to Oakwood, you go."
45:18 I said, oh, I stayed.
45:22 I stayed.
45:24 And my GPA excelled,
45:27 I aced my classes and yeah.
45:31 Did you marry Teresa?
45:33 Yes, I did. She married me.
45:35 All right. All right.
45:37 Tell us about Teresa and what's happened?
45:43 Well, this is a little emotional for me.
45:48 Teresa, we were married 33 years.
45:52 33 years?
45:53 33 years and 5 months
45:57 and 16 days and several hours.
46:00 Teresa, she was a special Ed teacher.
46:04 You know, she taught in Berrien Springs Public Schools.
46:08 Everybody loved her. Everybody loved her.
46:12 You know, she was truly exquisite.
46:16 You know, I remember times coming home
46:18 and, you know, I got laid off a job.
46:20 As soon as I walked in the house,
46:22 she said, "What's wrong?"
46:23 I said, "Honey, I lost my job."
46:25 I sat down at the table and she sat in my lap,
46:28 put her arms around me,
46:30 and said, "Honey, I'm going to protect you."
46:34 You know, she was that kind of woman, you know.
46:39 Teresa was...
46:43 She was diagnosed with colon cancer
46:45 on March 24th, prior to March 24, 2016.
46:51 In 2015, it was time for us the go
46:54 and get our annual colonoscopy.
46:58 And I said, "Honey, my doctor wants me to go."
47:00 And I said. "It's time for us to both go."
47:03 She said, "I'm not going."
47:05 Because I think two reasons why.
47:08 Number one, she had just completed a special course
47:15 in getting her certification as a health coach,
47:18 natural, you know, alternatives.
47:21 The second reason is of course her girlfriend's mom
47:23 had a colonoscopy, and she had a bad experience
47:26 and she had to have surgery to correct the problem.
47:30 So Teresa said to me, "I'm not going," you know.
47:33 So I said, "I'm not going either," you know.
47:35 So we both didn't go.
47:37 And then Teresa started losing weight
47:40 that same year, 2015.
47:43 She started getting thin.
47:45 And then in January, 2016,
47:52 she wasn't eating,
47:53 you know, very well.
47:56 And then late January, we were in bed.
48:00 And she went to use the bathroom.
48:01 And she came back and said,
48:03 she said, "Honey, there's blood in my urine."
48:07 And she just fell into my arms, you know.
48:12 And then she had...
48:14 She called a doctor.
48:16 And they took some labs.
48:17 And the doctor said,
48:19 on her birthday she got the lab results,
48:20 on February 24th, 2016, she got the lab results.
48:24 And doctors said,
48:26 "You have an inflamed tumor in your colon."
48:30 So going forward,
48:33 we got some advice from Teresa's cousin
48:36 who is married to a doctor who did his residency
48:38 at Rush University Medical Center in Chicago.
48:41 And he said, "Go to Rush University.
48:42 I know the people down there. Okay.
48:44 And they'll do some more tests."
48:47 Then on March 25th, 2016,
48:50 we were sitting in the hospital room.
48:54 And the doctor came back and said,
48:58 "Your test results came back, and you have colon cancer."
49:02 And I had an emotional melt down.
49:07 You know, I was just...
49:08 I felt like vertical,
49:10 the whole room was just turning on me
49:12 and just closing in on me.
49:14 And Teresa, the strong disciplined soldier in Christ
49:17 that she is, she looked at me and she said, "Be positive."
49:22 And then I composed myself.
49:24 The doctor said, "It's not a death sentence,
49:26 it's encapsulated."
49:28 Okay.
49:29 Teresa said, "We're going to beat this, honey," you know.
49:32 Make a long story short, she had surgery on April 6th.
49:36 And the doctor removed 22 lymph nodes,
49:39 and Teresa was concerned about him
49:40 removing the lymph nodes
49:41 because the lymph nodes are supposed to also,
49:43 you know, work to heal.
49:45 And when the doctor told her that, she was upset.
49:49 Okay, so that was April 6.
49:50 Had in metastasized too, those lymph nodes?
49:53 Yes, yes. Okay.
49:55 Well, he said he removed extra also thus he told us.
49:58 So then as I tell you about Teresa,
50:01 you know, we did some research
50:04 and we found a place in Tijuana, Mexico
50:05 that deals alternative compounds for healing,
50:08 you know, because she declined chemotherapy and radiation.
50:12 So we flew down to San Francisco,
50:14 then transported to Tijuana.
50:16 And we went there and they evaluated Teresa
50:21 and gave her herbal compound,
50:24 and we flew back to Berrien Springs
50:27 and Teresa began the regiment.
50:31 And it was a detox, a little detox.
50:35 But what it did,
50:36 when she had pain of discomfort,
50:39 it was like chemo, it was herbal chemo,
50:40 it will knock her out.
50:43 It will knock her out.
50:45 And then she bounced back with strength.
50:48 And it flushed out her system
50:51 and just kept flushing her system out.
50:52 Detox, and she went down to from 125 pounds,
50:56 she was beautiful woman, beautiful.
51:01 Went down 125 down to like 98, going down to 94.
51:06 And then she began to have a lot of pain.
51:13 So she had oxycodone.
51:16 And she would take oxycodone like,
51:21 perhaps eight hours apart.
51:23 Once a day or something like that.
51:25 It progressed so much to...
51:28 She started taking it from eight hours to six to six
51:31 and a half to five to four to three to two.
51:36 It got out of control.
51:37 And we went back to the doctor and he said,
51:39 "It's spread from the colon to the lung, to the kidney."
51:46 And I remember,
51:48 we went to see a doctor in October
51:50 in St. Joe in Michigan.
51:52 And he began to voice to Teresa,
51:56 "This is what you're gonna expect, hospice."
51:59 You know, and I was watching my wife, you know.
52:02 And I looked at her
52:04 and she just was bewildered, you know.
52:08 She was down to 78 pounds, and she was perplexed
52:10 and her eyes were so sad.
52:15 Is this real, you know.
52:18 You know, we went home and then on Friday, November 4,
52:24 we were in our house.
52:26 And she was sitting on the luxury sofa.
52:29 And she was just rocking back and forth, back and forth.
52:35 And she was just groaning in with discomfort and pain.
52:40 And then she cried out, "Help me, Jesus."
52:43 And I said, "Honey, I'm taking you to the ER."
52:46 She said, "No, don't take me. Don't take me."
52:49 I said, "Well, honey, what do you want me to do?"
52:51 She said, "Just pray, just pray."
52:53 So I called one of our girlfriends,
52:55 you know, who is a medical doctor also
52:57 and she said, "Take your wife to the ER."
52:58 So I took her to the ER, and she was dehydrated.
53:03 And they rehydrated her.
53:05 And we spent seven days and nights in that hospital,
53:08 and she was getting nothing
53:10 but 0.9 percent of normal saline intravenous.
53:15 No nutrition?
53:16 No, for seven days.
53:18 And the diagnosis revealed that she had a bowel obstruction.
53:23 Okay.
53:24 And they tried everything they could do
53:28 to cause her to have, you know, a bowel movement
53:31 because it was all tied up.
53:33 Right, right.
53:34 And she was in so much discomfort.
53:37 And they kept her, you know.
53:38 I said, "I don't want my wife on drugs."
53:41 I declared that, you know but it got so intense
53:45 and excruciating, they had to give a pain relief,
53:49 fentanyl, you know.
53:52 And I looked at my wife,
53:53 she was just knocked out like this.
53:56 And that's not my wife.
53:58 And I was in a state of critical crisis.
54:01 So I called the surgeon in Chicago, excuse me,
54:04 I emailed him, and told him what happened.
54:06 He said, just send an ambulance
54:09 to bring her to Rush University.
54:10 So we went on Friday, November 11 to Rush University.
54:16 Long story short, when we arrived there,
54:20 they began running more tests, more tests, more tests.
54:24 And I stayed the whole 15 days in the hospital with her,
54:29 seven at St. Joe, and eight at Rush.
54:33 And my job wants to know what's going on,
54:36 I explained to them.
54:37 They were so gracious,
54:38 you know, they gave me the time,
54:40 they gave me the time, yeah.
54:42 And long story short,
54:48 it got worse, she got sepsis.
54:51 Her entire body was infected.
54:54 And we were discharged on Saturday, November 19th
54:58 and we went home.
55:00 And somehow, I recommended that Teresa needs
55:06 what is that, TPN,
55:09 Total Parental Nutrition for protein.
55:13 And she got that,
55:15 but I think that compromised entire body,
55:16 because it's a lot of sugar.
55:19 And on Sunday night, the 20th,
55:25 we went to bed together.
55:26 Teresa woke up and said, "Why is it so cold?
55:28 It's cold in here, so cold."
55:30 And I covered her up some more and I slept next to her.
55:33 Monday, the 21st of November,
55:36 I woke up and Teresa was not responding.
55:40 So I called the paramedics.
55:45 She passed away on that Monday morning.
55:47 But she said to her cousin,
55:50 she said, "I'm done with this battle.
55:53 I'm ready to go home."
55:58 I can't imagine the...
56:01 I can, in a sense
56:03 because I've experienced loss too
56:05 so I understand loss,
56:06 but to lose the love of your life,
56:10 it's just so intense.
56:12 There's so much more that we didn't even get to.
56:17 I think I'm going to have to interview you again
56:21 because there's just so much more.
56:24 Your ministry, tell us the name of your ministry
56:28 because we got to get that in and your website.
56:31 Straight Up Youth Ministries, youthsupport.info.
56:35 www.youthsupport.info.
56:37 And your burden is, in one sentence,
56:40 for young men, women, everybody, young people.
56:44 What's your burden?
56:46 To reach out to youth,
56:47 help them realize that they have to come back
56:50 to the original context of life
56:52 which is knowing their God and serving Him.
56:55 Dr. McEachrane, I can't thank you enough
56:58 for being with us and for sharing your journey,
57:02 because I know that God has had His hand on you...
57:04 Thank you.
57:05 This whole time, your whole life.
57:08 And so may God continue to bless you
57:10 as you heal from the loss
57:13 and may He continue to just restore you.
57:15 Thank you.
57:17 I believe that you have
57:18 a tremendous, tremendous blessing,
57:22 some tremendous blessings in store.
57:24 Thank you.
57:25 God bless you. Amen.
57:27 I can't believe that we've reached
57:29 the end of another program.
57:30 You know, Dr. McEachrane has shared his journey.
57:34 And at each juncture,
57:36 even though it seemed as though the enemy
57:39 just had a grip,
57:41 he has shared with us that God has a plan,
57:46 we have to trust Him.
57:48 Thanks for tuning in.
57:49 Join us next time
57:50 because it just wouldn't be the same
57:52 without you.


Revised 2017-10-09