Participants: Host: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Jason Bradley, Guest: Raymond King
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000239A
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00:01 There is definitely a hidden agenda
00:02 when it comes to sexuality in our society. 00:05 Stay tuned to find out what it is. 00:08 My name is Yvonne Lewis. 00:09 And I'm Jason Bradley. 00:11 And you're watching Urban Report. 00:40 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report. 00:43 Today, our guest is Raymond King, 00:45 CEO of Securing Hope Ministry, speaker and author. 00:49 We're so happy that he could make it back 00:52 to continue the conversation about the hidden agenda. 00:55 Welcome to Urban Report, Brother Raymond. 00:57 Thanks for having me. Glad to be back. 00:59 This is part two because you and Jason 01:04 had a great interview on part one. 01:06 Yes. 01:07 And he said you had to come back. 01:09 I'm glad to be back 01:10 because there's so much more to discuss. 01:12 Yes. Yes. 01:13 And we're glad to have you back too. 01:15 Let's do a little recap 01:17 of what was discussed on part one, 01:20 for those who missed it. 01:22 Let's talk a little about what that was about. 01:25 What was part one about. 01:27 Well, he asked about our ministry, 01:29 but primarily we were trying to establish 01:32 that there is a hidden agenda 01:37 to what I call corrupted generation. 01:40 And we talked about how it was being used 01:44 or how it was being seen in the public school sector. 01:48 I am afraid of how the general public 01:55 is not aware of this agenda in our public schools. 02:00 The public schools are now being used as a instrument 02:04 or industry of indoctrination 02:06 as opposed to industry of education. 02:09 And the enemy knows that 02:11 since the vast majority of our children 02:13 including those in our fellowship 02:15 attend public schools. 02:17 He knows that, the Bible says, 02:19 "Train a child in the way he should go 02:20 when they're young, 02:22 so when they get older, would not depart from it." 02:23 He understands that 02:24 whatever we put into our children 02:26 when they are young 02:27 it's going to adversely affect their entire life. 02:30 And what he is doing is, 02:32 he's introducing principles and concepts to our kids 02:36 as early as age four. 02:38 So that as they grow older, 02:41 they are embracing these concepts, 02:42 he deals by embracing these concepts 02:44 he's changing the morality of America. 02:47 In actuality he's changing morality of the home 02:49 and he knows that 02:51 if he changed the morality of the family, 02:53 he changed the morality of the church. 02:55 And so, it's a demonic agenda 02:57 that unfortunately a lot of our leaders are not aware of, 03:02 and that's why it's such a serious issue 03:06 that we must expose and discuss. 03:08 And you know what? 03:09 That's also why it's so important 03:11 that education begins in the home 03:13 because culture is constantly going to shift. 03:17 But what the morals that you instill in your kids 03:19 in the home will stick with them. 03:22 Will stick with them. 03:23 But God has warned us, 03:25 my people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. 03:27 And that's what's happening. 03:29 Our parents don't understand, in essence, 03:33 it's like giving your kids over to the heathens 03:37 to train and to educate. 03:39 And one of the ways 03:41 they are doing is through sexuality. 03:42 Matter of fact, I can show 03:45 that sexuality is the main method 03:48 by which Satan is corrupting the generation. 03:51 Things that they are being taught are embracing. 03:54 One of the things that we discussed 03:55 was the agenda to erase 03:58 the boundaries of sexual components of the family, 04:03 male and female. 04:05 Our kids are being taught now that there is no such thing, 04:08 it's just male and female. 04:10 In one of my presentations I have a video clip, 04:14 and the school system actually paid this organization 04:17 to come into their school system, elementary, 04:21 and the man tells the children 04:23 that sometimes you can feel like being a male, 04:26 sometimes you feel like being a female, 04:28 sometimes you can feel like being both, 04:30 or sometimes you feel like being neither. 04:32 He tried to get the kids to understand that 04:34 there's no such thing 04:36 as just a male and female structure anymore. 04:39 There are other systems that are teaching our kids 04:41 that there are as many as 63 different genders 04:45 that they can choose from. 04:46 And there are some school systems... 04:47 Such as what? 04:49 Well, you have androgynous male, 04:54 androgynous female, 04:56 androgynous feminine male, androgynous masculine female, 05:02 you have cisgender, as a matter of fact, 05:04 you now are called cisgender, that means that, 05:08 we identify with our biological sexual assignment 05:12 and we are attracted to the opposite gender. 05:14 So we are called cisgender. 05:16 Instead of heterosexual. Instead of heterosexual. 05:19 You have gender nonconforming. 05:23 There are just so many different things, 05:24 that's confusion. 05:26 And God says, I'm not the author of confusion. 05:27 That is what I was just getting ready to say. 05:31 A minute ago, that it sounds like a bunch of confusion, 05:34 instead of male and female, 05:37 instead of celebrating the differences 05:39 between men and women, and male and female 05:43 you've got all these "genders" that's just amazing to me. 05:50 And what's so said, this is what our kids are being taught. 05:53 And the matter of fact, in some school systems, 05:55 they ask the parents, 05:56 they ask the child to let them know 05:57 what gender they want to be or refer to. 06:00 I'm from North Carolina. 06:02 Our Charlotte, North Carolina. 06:05 In the school system there, 06:07 they tell that teacher do not respond 06:11 to the kids as male or female, you call them students, 06:15 something, you call them scholars, 06:17 or I can't remember other designation, 06:21 but they're no longer male or female. 06:24 So in other words, the teachers are not going to say, 06:26 "Come on boys and girls, let's do so and so." 06:28 No, because you may have a child 06:32 whose biological gender assignment may be male, 06:36 but he feels like he's a female. 06:40 So by addressing him as male, 06:42 you are not only discriminating against him 06:46 but you also are causing harm. 06:48 You know what strikes me with this, 06:51 Brother Raymond is... 06:55 the number of people that have gender dysphoria, 07:00 it's so minute. 07:02 And yet we're shifting the whole society 07:05 to accommodate that. 07:08 Now, I'm not saying that 07:10 we shouldn't be concerned about them, 07:12 I think that they should be taught and loved. 07:18 But everything is being focused on, 07:23 you know, like sharing bathrooms 07:25 and all of that kind 07:27 for really minute number of people in society. 07:31 And it's saying to me 07:33 that a small group of people are pushing this agenda 07:38 so hard and stuffing it down the majority's throats. 07:43 And it's insulting in terms of 07:48 how it's being passed as a civil right, so to speak. 07:53 And, you know, I've seen people go from gay to straight, 07:56 straight to gay, and back and forth. 07:59 But I've never seen anybody go from black to white, 08:02 and white to black, or Hispanic to black, 08:05 or anything like that, you know. 08:06 They change. 08:08 Well, your mom said dysphoria. 08:11 That's a term that they've introduced 08:13 to take away the reality of it being a disorder. 08:18 They replaced the word disorder with dysphoria 08:20 because they're trying now to normalize it. 08:23 And what's so sad is, it's a disorder, 08:27 it's not natural, it's not normal. 08:29 And what we must understand 08:33 for the vast majority of these individuals, 08:36 there are gender disorder, their identification disorder, 08:42 or they are attracted to the same gender 08:44 is not the problem, 08:45 it's a symptom of a deeper problem. 08:48 The vast majority of people with gender identity disorder 08:51 are individuals 08:52 who have had some type of unresolved childhood trauma 08:57 that's never been resolved. 08:58 And when we understand the reality of this 09:03 is really the demonic agenda to introduce a mindset 09:08 or introduce a reality 09:11 that he knows is going to destroy the family, 09:14 because now you have individuals 09:17 who are involved with same gender relationships, 09:21 and those individuals are now raising children 09:24 and a lot of these children are adopted or they are... 09:29 They've reached beyond their coupleness 09:32 and they're bringing in the third party 09:33 to be a surrogate or sperm donor 09:35 or what have you to so they can have children, 09:39 and it's creating a whole different dynamic 09:41 that is so far from God's purpose, 09:44 it's confusion. 09:46 And so, I tell people this. 09:49 We need to look beyond the superficial 09:53 and start going lot deeper because what the reality is, 09:58 Satan is slowly creating 10:01 a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. 10:05 And the Bible says in the Spirit of Prophecy, 10:07 it says that as if we get closer to Christ coming 10:10 and as it was in the day of Noah, 10:12 shall be coming of the Son of Man. 10:15 And what we are seeing now 10:16 if we really look at our society, 10:19 we are now are repeating 10:21 because the Bible said, it's nothing new under the sun. 10:24 We're repeating what we saw back in the day. 10:27 And I tell people this, 10:30 God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah 10:32 or antediluvian world 10:34 because of what we call homosexuality. 10:37 He destroyed it because of a lack of righteousness. 10:40 When Abraham asked God, 10:45 he said, if you find 50 righteous people, 10:48 in all Sodom and Gomorrah in the planes 10:50 because not only was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed 10:52 but the plane that surrounded Sodom and Gomorrah 10:53 were destroyed. 10:54 He said, "If you find 50 righteous people we destroyed." 10:56 God said, "Go and find for the righteous." 10:58 You know, he went all the way down to 10 people, 11:00 and the 10 people included Lot his family. 11:03 God said, "You found 10 righteous people in Sodom, 11:05 I would not destroy it." 11:07 God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah 11:08 because of a lack of righteousness. 11:11 But the indication of the lack of righteousness 11:15 was the acceptance of perversion. 11:17 And so America is actually getting to the point where 11:19 because of the lack of righteousness, 11:21 we are accepting the same level of perversion, 11:24 the same level of debauchery 11:26 that we saw in Sodom and Gomorrah. 11:28 And what's so sad, 11:30 our kids are the ones 11:31 that now being brought up in a world 11:33 that's calling evil good and good evil. 11:35 And we're not doing what we should be doing 11:38 to empower them with knowledge, 11:39 so that they would not become victims. 11:41 Absolutely. 11:43 I think that, you know, so often we just... 11:48 We're so concerned with being politically correct 11:53 that we're not dealing with what's happening. 11:56 It's not, when you talk, 11:59 when you speak out on these things, 12:01 it's not hate speech, 12:04 it's not that you hate people who are going through this. 12:07 You actually love them enough to share Jesus with them, 12:11 to say there is a way out of your brokenness. 12:15 A lot of this is indicative of brokenness. 12:18 And I was really made aware of that 12:21 when we did Pure Choices some time ago 12:24 with Coming Up Ministries. 12:25 And they interviewed some people 12:27 who had been in the gay lifestyle and got, 12:31 well, in the gay culture, they said don't use lifestyle. 12:34 You know, all those politically correct jargon, 12:36 you have to remember what to say. 12:38 But, to me it's like, you don't want to say, 12:44 "Oh well, they have a problem or it's a sin issue." 12:49 It is a sin issue, it is a problem. 12:53 But we're all sinners. 12:55 It's not like, I'm saying, you know, 12:56 it's not like we're saying, 12:57 "Well, they're sinners and we're not. 12:59 We got it all together." 13:01 No, we're saying, "Hey, this is your area that of sin." 13:07 Mine is something else, yours is something else, 13:09 yours is something else, 13:10 we're all sinners saved by grace. 13:13 That's what it is but we are afraid 13:15 to talk about it 13:17 because you looked at us a hater. 13:21 There's book called "After the Ball". 13:24 It was written in the late '70s. 13:26 And those who know what it is call it the Gay Manifesto. 13:31 It's a book that was written 13:33 to get America to accept homosexuality. 13:37 Now you know me, I'm not politically correct. 13:42 I don't want to be, I'm buildly correct. 13:43 Right. There you go. 13:45 And being buildly correct, 13:47 there's no such thing as the homosexual 13:49 because God didn't make it. 13:51 They're all heterosexual people with issues. 13:55 God only made heterosexual. 13:57 We got to quit buying into that jargon 13:59 because in that book called "After the Ball", 14:02 they came up with the word homophobic. 14:05 Their agenda was that, when their agenda say that, 14:09 in order for us to quiet those who had the truth, 14:13 we must demonize them, we must call them haters, 14:16 we must call them homophobic, we must make them look bad. 14:20 And so what's happened 14:21 because that's been done effectively, 14:24 we are afraid to call a spade a spade. 14:28 We are afraid to call some bad name 14:29 because we are afraid to be called homophobic 14:32 or be called haters what have you. 14:34 In my point, they didn't call me haters 14:36 because the Bible says, 14:38 "They will hate you because you love me. 14:42 They will hate you because you speak the truth." 14:44 But I love people enough to call it what it is, 14:48 because again the same gender attraction, 14:52 the individual who said that, you know, I'm transgender 14:55 and all of that the error, 14:58 is somebody that needs to hear a truth 15:00 because the Bible says, 15:01 "Only truth is going to set them free." 15:04 If we continue to be politically correct, 15:07 we are assisting Satan to keep those people in bondage 15:10 and God said, I'm going to hold you accountable, 15:12 because the Bible says, 15:14 "If the wicked man continues in his wickedness 15:17 and you did not hymn the truth." 15:20 He said, "Not only will he die, 15:22 but his blood is going to be in your hands," 15:24 the Bible says that. 15:26 He said, "But, if you give them the truth, 15:29 and he hear the truth, and he embraces it, 15:31 you saved him." 15:33 And so my whole point is 15:34 we got to quit trying to please everybody 15:37 but only please God. 15:39 And God said, "Only the truth should be spoken." 15:42 Now the problem we have 15:43 in our culture and in our churches, 15:45 we don't understand enough about this whole issue. 15:48 And so we have people, some people, you know, 15:51 once out of the spectrum, some people condemned those 15:54 who have this type of same sex attraction 15:58 and other people embrace it. 16:00 And so you're on one side or the other, 16:02 you must be balanced. 16:03 But I believe if the parents, 16:05 and this is what really hurts me to my heart. 16:09 The greatest number of individuals in our church 16:13 that condone and support this are parents of children 16:17 who come to them and say, "Mom and Dad, I'm homosexual." 16:21 And their parents embrace because they love their child, 16:24 they want to support their child 16:25 but they don't know enough to know that 16:27 something's wrong with my child. 16:28 It's not their attraction, what caused the attraction, 16:32 and that is what need to be addressed 16:33 because most of those kids were molested 16:36 and was never resolved. 16:37 And so we have to educate our pastor, 16:41 we have to educate our youth leaders, 16:42 we have to educate our parents, 16:44 we have to educate them not to embrace this lie 16:47 because they're not being what they think they are being. 16:51 You are enabling someone... 16:53 I'll give you a good example. 16:55 There is a disorder BIID. 16:58 It's Body Identity Integrity Disorder. 17:02 These individuals are individuals 17:04 who don't feel natural unless they chop off their leg, 17:08 or chop off their ears, or chop off part of their body. 17:12 They call it trance able... 17:15 They want to be disabled. 17:17 They feel like I'm not whole unless I chop something off. 17:21 They really feel that. 17:22 And I have a video where this gentleman said, 17:27 "I did not want my legs." 17:28 He chopped off both his legs. 17:30 He would do all type of things 17:32 because that's what they do 17:33 but every time he try to infect himself, 17:35 the doctor would clip the infection. 17:36 So he finally got a chainsaw and cut his legs off. 17:41 He said, "Now I feel like I'm whole." 17:45 I tell people the same type of feeling 17:47 that he had that no one will embrace 17:50 it's the same type of feeling people have so, 17:52 but I don't feel like I'm a male or female. 17:55 But those individuals 17:57 go through the same type of self mutilation, 17:59 even though in different ways, 18:01 they just go to their genitals and mutilate themselves. 18:04 But, it's the same erroneous thing 18:07 that they're believing, 18:08 and I'm saying we have to get out of this 18:11 funk of embracing the lie and enabling people 18:16 who obviously have a disorder. 18:18 It's not dysphoria, it's a disorder. 18:20 It's not natural, it's not normal. 18:22 And I don't know, it's just frustrating to me 18:25 that people of truth are so impotent 18:28 when it comes to getting people out of darkness 18:31 and bringing them into the marvelous light. 18:33 How is the body of Christ being impacted by this? 18:41 The body of Christ is being led 18:45 by the same type of demonic spirit. 18:49 And a lot of people have a good intent. 18:51 But we've been led to embrace the same lie 18:54 that the people in darkness are believing. 18:56 For example, 19:00 there the movie called "Seventh-Gay Adventists" 19:03 that's being shown all over the United States. 19:08 It's a movie that embraces same gender relationships, 19:15 it embraces transgenderism, it embraces GLBT movement, 19:21 all, you know, in its entirety but, 19:23 instead of telling people that you can change, 19:25 that you can get deliverance, 19:27 they're telling people that God made them like that. 19:30 What they're doing is 19:31 they're preaching a different gospel. 19:34 And it is the different gospel that the Bible says, 19:36 if anyone brings to you a gospel, 19:38 even this if it's a angel, the Bible says, 19:40 if it's not the one that I preached to you, 19:43 the Bible say, "Let him be accursed it." 19:45 But instead of us calling them out, 19:49 we are allowing them to spread that information 19:52 all over the creation, 19:54 it may cause there's no counterbalance, 19:56 a lot of parents, a lot of individual who are broken, 19:59 a lot of people who are confused 20:00 are now embracing it, 20:02 because the movie is done in a manner 20:05 that makes embracing error the right thing to do. 20:11 Another movie is called "More Room at a Table", 20:13 had the same type of method, the same type of movement. 20:18 And what's happening when God said, 20:20 "My people are destroyed of lack of knowledge." 20:24 The enemy is making sure 20:26 that anytime a discussion about sexuality is brought up, 20:30 people pushed it away. 20:31 I don't want to hear, 20:33 we should not be talking about this. 20:35 And I'm telling you, it should be forefront, 20:37 it should be to the forefront 20:38 because that what's the enemy is using 20:42 most successfully to destroy people 20:45 should be that focus of the church to expose him, 20:49 to take away his weapon, 20:51 but instead of doing that we're hush-hushing about it, 20:54 we don't feel comfortable about it. 20:55 And our kids... 20:58 There are organizations on all of our campuses 21:02 across America that when kids leave home 21:06 to go to college and they are confused, 21:09 or they are broken, or they have been turned out. 21:13 There're organizations on campus that would make sure 21:17 that they remain in their brokenness, 21:18 that they remain in their false sexual identity. 21:22 And again with some of our kids to be corrupted 21:25 and not only corrupted 21:27 but now they are being used by the enemy 21:29 to corrupt others as well. 21:31 When you ask me about 21:32 what the body of Christ is doing? 21:34 It's doing absolutely nothing 21:36 that it should be to expose 21:38 this weapon of mass destruction. 21:41 And when you have total... 21:46 The last time I was with Jason, I discussed with him, 21:51 one of the reasons that 21:52 our past president was embracing this 21:55 and how he was promoting it because the church he attends, 21:59 United Church of Christ, UCC, 22:01 that entire denomination says that God created this, 22:06 that God used this. 22:07 So his 20 years of church, that's all he's ever heard 22:10 but there are other denominations, 22:13 there are other organizations 22:14 that are now promoting it 22:16 under the guiles of Christianity. 22:18 And so when you have someone who says I'm a pastor, 22:21 we have our churches said, 22:23 "No, we are the church of the living God 22:26 and they're promoting the error, 22:28 but you have those in light they say nothing 22:30 then those in darkness only hear the one, 22:32 the false gospel. 22:35 The church in California 22:38 that had ordained the first transgender female, 22:42 which is really a male, ordained as an elder, 22:46 but yet they are listed as one of our churches 22:49 in North American division. 22:51 I'm saying how can it happen? 22:52 Now, again, this is not a condemnation about anybody. 22:55 This is just the truth, it's reality. 22:58 And I'm concerned about it because God is not pleased. 23:02 Our kids need to have what does saith the Lord, 23:06 because they're living in a world that's gone crazy. 23:09 Right. Yeah. 23:11 And today, it doesn't seem like, 23:13 it does saith the Lord, 23:14 it seems like it's more of a do as thy will. 23:16 You know, people are operating off of feelings 23:18 and going with the cultural shifts 23:20 and the cultural norms 23:21 as opposed to basing everything off the principles 23:24 that are found in the Bible. 23:26 Well, recently there had been an uproar 23:29 because of well known people in Hollywood, 23:32 who have been exposed in sexual misconduct. 23:36 But what they don't really understand 23:38 and really realize is Hollywood is a hotbed 23:41 for pedophiles and pedophilia. 23:44 And there are many, many, many, many, many children 23:49 who are now being molested and corrupted. 23:54 And now they grew up 23:56 to now become molesters and corrupters. 23:59 And I'm telling people that we have to break the cycle 24:03 because 80% of individuals 24:06 who molest children were themselves molested. 24:09 And so there's the demonic seed has been planted 24:12 and all this is a part of this agenda 24:16 because Satan knows the more he can get corrupted sexually, 24:20 the more unnatural appetites are going to be created. 24:24 And those individuals are going to grow up 24:26 to not only carry on this error 24:29 but they're going to bring other people into this error. 24:32 And I believe that God has created 24:37 in us such a marvelous truth, 24:40 if we would just be brave enough to discuss it, 24:43 and brave enough to proclaim it, 24:46 the Bible said the truth 24:47 will shake the foundation of hill itself. 24:50 But we're afraid to call it by its name. 24:53 It's so similar to, you know, the whole idea of homophobia 24:58 and somebody being called homophobic, 25:01 and somebody being called a racist. 25:02 Nobody wants to be called that. 25:04 So you back off from it 25:05 because you don't want to say anything 25:08 that offends somebody or make them think that, 25:11 you know, you hate them, no, you love them. 25:15 That's the whole idea. 25:16 It's about love, it's not about hate, 25:18 it's about love saying, 25:19 we have the tools to set you free. 25:23 Jesus is the way. Yes, yes. 25:24 And it's also the way that they pass that 25:27 which was the whole civil rights type of thing 25:33 that they gave it. 25:34 Well, this is interesting. 25:37 Civil rights, according to the law, 25:40 according to the government can be conferred 25:43 on any group that can't change. 25:46 You mentioned earlier, I can't change my color, 25:50 I can't change my gender, 25:52 I really can't, I don't care what he say. 25:53 You really can't. 25:55 This is why, how I turn up, how I dresses up, 25:59 you can't change it. 26:01 But when it comes to sexual desires 26:03 or sexual attraction, 26:05 matter of fact, they call it sexual fluidity. 26:07 I cannot pronounce that word. 26:09 But they're saying one day you can feel like being a male 26:12 and next day you feel like being a female, 26:13 even they say, "Now, it can be changed." 26:15 But, in order to confer civil rights on as a group, 26:20 they had to say you can't change. 26:22 Now we know that's a lie 26:25 but the reason that they have to maintain that lie 26:27 because if that lie was broken, 26:30 then they can never confer 26:32 the thing of people right or dominion war. 26:35 So again, it's way deeper than people understand. 26:39 But, let's say he was out of the pitcher 26:41 is demonic, 26:43 that the devil is like a roaring lion 26:45 seeking who he may devour. 26:47 And this thing called the homophobic and the haters, 26:52 all this is a part of their book I told you 26:54 "After the Ball". 26:55 If you get it, try to read it, get that book. 26:58 You can go at Amazon, I'm a sales person forward, 27:02 I want to make money, obviously, 27:03 but I want people to understand 27:05 all of this is part of a demonic plan 27:08 started back in the late '70s. 27:10 And we want people to get your book as well, 27:12 what every Adventist should know about GLBTQ. 27:16 This is really important because I mean, it's everywhere 27:21 and we need to know about how to minister 27:25 to those who are broken. 27:28 I can't believe our time... 27:29 You know what? 27:30 You know, we just gonna have you 27:32 come back and do a program. 27:33 Like, you got to be doing your own program on Dare to Dream 27:36 'cause there is just so much information. 27:40 Right. Thank you, Jason. You're welcome. 27:42 It's always so good to have you. 27:44 Oh, you know, if I first said hi to you 27:45 in the beginning, did I? 27:47 You didn't. But that's okay. 27:48 Oh, my goodness. 27:49 Well, you know, charge it to my head not my heart. 27:52 Thank you so much for joining us, 27:54 we've reached the end of the program, 27:56 I can't believe it. 27:57 Join us next time 27:59 'cause it would be the same without you. |
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