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Series Code: UBR
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00:01 Stay tuned to meet a man
00:02 who refuses to be politically correct. 00:05 My name is Yvonne Lewis Shelton. 00:07 And I'm Jason Bradley, 00:08 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:33 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:35 Our guest today is no stranger to Dare to Dream. 00:38 In fact, he's the co-founder of Dare to Dream. 00:42 He's also the president 00:43 and founder of Three Angels Broadcasting Network, 00:46 and his name is Danny Shelton, and he's my wonderful husband. 00:50 Yay! All right. 00:52 It's good to be here today with you and Jason. 00:55 Oh, we're so happy to have you. 00:57 This is rare, we don't... I know. 00:58 It's not often that we get to interview you. 01:00 I know. I may be getting nervous. 01:03 I'm usually on the other side, it's easier, 01:06 you know, on the other end. 01:07 Well, we know that God has placed 01:09 a tremendous calling on your life. 01:11 I mean, you do everything from writing music, to books, 01:15 to hosting, to playing guitar, to singing, 01:19 to all these different things. 01:21 None of them very well, but I try everything. 01:23 No, no, no. No. 01:25 The Lord has really blessed you in so many different ways 01:27 and you've written several books. 01:29 And this last book that you've written 01:31 has stirred up quite a bit of controversy. 01:34 It has. It really has. 01:37 Well, first of all, the name of the book 01:38 is Spiritual Vigilantes. 01:39 Yes. And I have it right here. 01:42 And there you can see it. 01:46 What made you go with that title? 01:49 Well, it's actually a pretty long process. 01:53 I was watching, it started around 2015 01:57 when all of a sudden everybody was talking about 01:59 the election coming 02:00 and you had all these people running for offices 02:03 and I began to watch the Democrats, 02:05 watch the Republicans, and the independents 02:07 and watch all of these people 02:09 and things they would say to their audiences to make sure 02:14 they got votes 02:15 was just ridiculous a lot of times. 02:17 And I'm like, you know, these people 02:19 they're so worried about being politically correct, 02:22 it seems like somewhere 02:24 the truth has been lost in this. 02:26 And so, you know, I started having this burden 02:30 because I thought, "Man, there are all of these people, 02:32 there's an audience out there, 02:34 and people also who say they're Christians 02:37 and were deciding 'How am I gonna vote?' 02:39 You know, how does my religion work into politics 02:43 or my politics work into my religion, 02:46 and which way am I gonna go." 02:47 And so I began to hear people make excuses 02:51 for voting in ways that you wonder, 02:54 well, this doesn't line up with the Bible 02:57 or supporting candidates 02:58 that doesn't line up with the Bible. 03:00 And I said, you know, something needs to be... 03:03 I've never been one as, you might know, 03:06 even when I was a kid, to keep my mouth shut too much. 03:09 If I got in trouble, I usually wasn't mean, 03:11 I was talking too much, you know, 03:12 when my folks tell me to be quiet or something. 03:14 But I've always been one that felt like, 03:17 you know, something has to be said 03:19 or something has to be done. 03:21 And so it began to dawn on me, the Spiritual Vigilantes. 03:26 I looked at churches, 03:28 I looked at how churches 03:29 were mixing politics and religion, Jason. 03:32 And I'm like, you know, this is amazing to me. 03:36 Isn't it interesting, in the world 03:38 we have Vigilantes, physical, 03:40 when we talk about a vigilante, 03:42 someone who takes the law of the land 03:46 into their own hands, 03:47 they become judge, jury, and executioner. 03:51 And I said it's amazing that Christians, 03:54 some Christians and even churches, 03:56 have taken God's law into their own hands. 03:59 So based on that, I thought, 04:02 maybe Spiritual Vigilante would be a good title for this 04:05 because I want to write something that says, 04:07 "Let's don't be politically correct. 04:10 Let's put God first and serve Him 04:12 no matter what His law says, do we love Him enough, 04:15 do we trust Him enough to serve Him." 04:17 So let's talk about how they've taken God's law 04:21 into their own hands. 04:22 How did they do that? 04:24 Well, this started, you know, thousands of years ago, 04:26 but hundreds of years ago, 04:28 and we can look back into the first century AD, 04:31 for instance, there were Christians 04:33 who took God's law and tried, I always say tried, 04:37 they didn't change the fourth commandment 04:39 but they tried. 04:40 God gave us Ten Commandments, 04:42 he didn't give us a smorgasbord and say, 04:43 "Jay, pick out, you know, 04:45 which one of these you want to keep?" 04:47 He said, "Here's Ten Commandments 04:48 and he listed them all, 04:50 and these are the ones you keep." 04:51 But people, supposedly, 04:54 theologians got together and said, 04:55 "Well, you really don't have to do that. 04:57 Let's go by tradition. 04:59 We don't want to be associated with Judaism. 05:01 So we're going to start our own day of worship 05:04 and so we're going to do it on the first day of the week." 05:06 That, to me, is a spiritual vigilante 05:09 because you're now fooling around with the laws of God. 05:13 That's the last thing I want to, you know, 05:15 be doing is messing with God, right? 05:18 So we've seen it over and over and over, then in 1970s, 05:23 here in the United States of America, 05:24 '73 or so, you know, we had Roe versus Wade, 05:27 that's way before Jay was born. 05:29 And the abortion... I remember reading about that. 05:31 And so many Christians support abortion. 05:34 Well, if I have it right, 05:36 abortion would be about the sixth commandment, 05:39 "Thou shalt not murder." 05:40 And so we say, well, you know, it's the law of the land, 05:44 and, you know, it's just something, 05:46 maybe people should have a choice. 05:49 But I would say, 05:51 some people think it's okay to abort a child 05:54 literally up to minutes 05:55 before they come out of the womb. 05:58 So I say, "Well, it's okay to kill a child anytime, 06:01 whatever trimester, all the way till the end. 06:03 But as soon as it's born and comes out, 06:06 then it's murder." 06:08 Well, isn't that a child in there, 06:10 you know, beforehand? 06:12 So to me, and people have compromised, 06:14 so not only has the world done it, 06:16 but Christianity, 06:18 you rarely hear people talking about, 06:20 in the Christian church, abortion anymore. 06:23 So that's a Spiritual Vigilante, 06:26 changing God's laws. 06:28 Then in the last few years, it seemed like it just... 06:32 What word would it be? 06:33 Such a word as sneaked up on us. 06:35 It's not my folk say snuck up on us. 06:37 It snuck up on us. 06:39 So I'll go country for a minute here. 06:40 It snuck up on us, the same sex marriage. 06:45 We, as a country, I didn't get to vote on it, 06:47 I don't know about you, I don't think you did either. 06:49 But through the Obama administration... 06:51 Please don't think I'm political and favoring 06:54 because I didn't vote 06:56 and because I didn't feel like 06:57 I could in the last two or three elections. 07:01 And if you want to vote, that's great, you go ahead. 07:04 But I felt like that I had to take a stand. 07:08 And so how do I vote for something 07:12 that I don't believe in. 07:14 And it's really tough, so I said, 07:16 "Who am I going to serve? 07:17 Am I going to serve God or man? 07:18 Why can they pass a law that the Supreme Court passes, 07:22 and it says that a man and a man 07:27 or a woman and a woman can be married 07:30 when Scripture says everything but, it says, 07:32 'God created man, male and female,' 07:35 and He said, 'Be fruitful and multiply.' 07:37 And yet now, 07:39 the United States government has said that same..." 07:43 And not only the United States, 07:44 many governments around the world 07:46 have said that same sex marriage is lawful 07:51 and it's normal and it's okay. 07:54 So these are all attempts of the world 07:58 or the church to change something 08:00 we have no jurisdiction over. 08:02 So what do you say to people who might say to you, 08:06 "Well, I don't agree with same sex marriage, 08:10 but I don't like this about the other party 08:14 or I don't like that about the other party"? 08:17 What do you... How would you answer that? 08:20 Because that's what a lot of people say. 08:22 My father has been dead since 1974. 08:26 But I can hear him saying 08:27 'cause he drilled it into my mind 08:29 when I was a little kid, 08:30 "Two wrongs don't make a right, son." 08:33 And my mom would say that, you say, "'He did this...' 08:36 No, two wrongs don't make... 08:37 He hit you first, 08:39 but you hitting him, that doesn't..." 08:40 Usually, it's between brothers, you know? 08:42 "That doesn't make a right." 08:44 So two wrongs don't make a right. 08:45 So there are people who will vote for one candidate 08:48 'cause they just can't stand the other one. 08:51 And yet maybe this candidate they're voting for, 08:54 I'm amazed that they say, "Oh, well, this candidate..." 08:56 And it's not the individual, I'm not so much... 08:59 I don't care if we're talking Trump or Hillary 09:02 or if it's going to be Oprah here. 09:03 Individually, and nobody's perfect, 09:06 and these people... 09:07 We know when there have been heads of our countries, 09:09 they're not necessarily Christians. 09:11 In the Bible times, 09:12 there were not always people who followed God, 09:14 but were looking at policy 09:16 and the effect of God on a country. 09:19 So it's bigger than Donald Trump or Barack Obama. 09:24 And because we don't like 09:25 how this person acts or what he said, 09:28 we have to look what policy, 09:29 what are they forming for this nation, 09:32 and what we're seeing is it's becoming more anti 09:35 and anti-God here in the United States of America. 09:38 You know, I remember seeing in your book 09:40 where you said something about how a lot of people think 09:45 that America is a Christian nation 09:48 and was a Christian nation. 09:50 What do you have to say about that? 09:52 Well, I did some homework on it. 09:54 When you study back... 09:57 And as you said, people say, 09:58 "Well, we're a Christian nation." 09:59 We never really were a Christian nation. 10:01 But the founding fathers took, especially, 10:04 the moral laws of God, 10:06 which is the last six commandments 10:09 and entered that in 10:10 and based the structure of the Constitution 10:16 and the Bill of Rights, 10:17 all of that is all designed around God's moral law 10:20 because where else are you going to look 10:21 for something that if you want to live 10:23 in peace and tranquility, tranquility and all of these, 10:27 you're gonna have to follow the law of God 10:29 or you're going to have chaos. 10:32 It's interesting how we've gone so far from that. 10:36 You know, nowadays you see a lot of people 10:38 that want to conform religion to their lifestyle 10:41 as opposed to conforming their lifestyle to religion. 10:44 So they're not embracing the principles of God, 10:48 but they're going with their feelings 10:50 and what's popular. 10:52 Yeah. 10:54 What would you say to the Christian 10:57 that's struggling with compromise? 10:59 Well, I think it's a big battle. 11:02 But it's not necessarily over what... 11:05 That's an outward sign. 11:07 I would say that it's a battle inside. 11:09 In other words, am I willing to submit and commit to God 11:12 because maybe I'm somebody who's pro same sex marriage, 11:18 but on the other hand, I may have hate in my life, 11:22 I may have jealousy in my life, I may have pride in my life. 11:26 Those things will play out in different ways. 11:30 So my thing is the only way 11:32 that we can really know is to say, 11:35 "Lord, here I am," you know, "I confess my sins. 11:37 You said You've been faithful 11:39 and just to forgive me for my sins 11:40 and cleanse me from all unrighteousness." 11:43 And so once you do that, 11:45 "Now send me, Lord, 11:47 I'm willing to do what You want me to do." 11:49 When you come to that point, 11:51 then you care less about political correctness, 11:55 you care less about getting so involved in politics, 11:59 which I see this and I see it on Facebook 12:01 and then people from our church 12:03 and other churches arguing and everything. 12:05 And we're like backing these candidates to... 12:09 I don't know how in the world... 12:11 I'm not going to put God, 12:12 and we should not ever put God before politics. 12:16 And so I think... And politics before God. 12:18 I'm sorry, yeah, politics before God. 12:20 And we should never do that. 12:21 But I see it all the time, we get so involved. 12:25 There are people who don't like this book, 12:27 even in the church, 12:29 because when I talk about 12:30 how same sex marriage becoming the law of the land, 12:33 it was under the Obama administration, 12:35 so they wrote to me and said, "You're a racist." 12:37 You know, I said, "I wouldn't care 12:38 if he were blue or if he were, you know, white, 12:41 if he were yellow, whatever color, 12:44 it would make any difference. 12:45 Right is right and wrong is wrong." 12:47 And so to me, it has nothing to do with racism, 12:51 but again, that's because 12:53 we're so involved 12:54 in the political culture right now, 12:56 way things are going, 12:58 that you say anything that's true, 12:59 "Oh, you have offended me. 13:01 Oh, this offends me. Oh, that's a hate speech." 13:04 You'll find there are a lot of people, 13:06 and I always think this is amazing, people say, 13:08 "I should be able to do what I want." 13:10 If I want to be homosexual and talk about it, and live it, 13:14 and act it, I have a right, 13:15 I have the freedom of speech to do it, 13:17 and no one should say anything about it. 13:20 Then I'll say, you're right, 13:21 as long as it doesn't harm anybody, 13:23 you're not breaking any laws, that's fine. 13:25 But as soon as I say, according to the Bible, 13:28 this is not right, this is a sin against God, 13:32 they say, "That's a hate speech." 13:34 He's hate. 13:35 And there are countries already like Canada and some others 13:38 that won't allow you to call sin by its name 13:41 because now it's a hate speech. 13:43 So isn't that interesting that those 13:44 who complain the most, 13:47 you know, the ones 13:48 who are always saying, you know, this is wrong, 13:51 well, turn it around 13:54 and all of a sudden now it's a hate speech. 13:56 So we live in a sinful world. 14:00 And I tell people it's not a skin problem. 14:02 You know, they try to make it, 14:04 you know, the racial divide 14:05 and all kinds of things here in America, 14:07 it's not a skin problem, it's a sin problem. 14:10 What kind of controversies 14:13 has this book stirred up for you? 14:16 Well, I have to... 14:18 If I can say this in the right way, 14:20 I don't mind a lot... 14:22 a little or a lot of controversy. 14:24 Maybe I don't have enough sense, 14:26 you know, when I was little, my dad, 14:29 I'd be over playing and somebody says, 14:30 "He's a happy kid." 14:31 He'd say, "Yeah, he didn't have that much sense." 14:33 And so I'd smile, you know, 14:35 and that would confirm what they thought. 14:37 But I don't mind controversy. 14:40 Now if it's about me, I don't like to... 14:44 "Okay, well, don't say this about me because, you know, 14:47 I think I'm better than that or different." 14:50 I'm not talking about that kind of controversy, 14:52 I'm talking about spiritual controversy. 14:54 The Bible says, 14:56 "All who live godly shall suffer persecution." 14:59 So if you are living your life and you're a Christian, 15:02 and you're not going through some persecution, 15:04 then I would say, 15:06 you maybe want to go back to your knees to the Lord 15:08 and say, "Lord, what am I doing wrong? 15:10 Why aren't I getting the Jesus treatment?" 15:13 Now every time I'm persecuted or people, 15:16 you know, don't like me, that doesn't mean 15:17 'cause I'm such a good individual, 15:20 some of that, you know, I cause myself, 15:22 I make a lot of mistakes in life 15:24 as you do at home. 15:26 And I know you don't. But everyone at home do. 15:31 But, you know, we all make mistakes. 15:35 So a little bit of controversy, it doesn't really bother you. 15:39 Not when it's spiritual. 15:40 In other words, when it's spiritual 15:42 from the beginning of 3ABN, 15:44 we have seen the devil fight us, 15:47 tooth and nail from the beginning. 15:49 Everything in the world, when we started, 15:50 we figured everybody would support it, 15:52 you know Christians and Adventists, everybody, 15:55 but people say, "Oh, they'll never... 15:56 Those boys will never get that." 15:57 We were boys back then, Jay. 15:59 Not much older than you, early 30s. 16:01 "Those boys will never get that 16:03 from that farmland and southern Illinois, 16:04 they'll never get a signal on the satellite." 16:07 Well, two or three years, couple years later, 16:08 we got the signal 'cause they said, 16:10 they'll never get it up, a couple years later, 16:11 we get it up. 16:13 Coming down into about a million, 16:14 at that time, homes, big dishes. 16:16 That said, "Oh, they're never going to get it down." 16:18 Once you get up, you never get... 16:20 "Well, they're never going to reach any people. 16:21 They're only going to reach a million people. 16:23 Well, how are they going to reach the world?" 16:24 Well, they didn't know technology is changing so fast 16:27 that went from the big dish to the smaller dish to cable, 16:30 you know, to computers and radio and television 16:33 and satellites around the world. 16:36 And so I've always had controversy. 16:37 But in this particular book, as you ask me, 16:40 I'm just surprised that so many people 16:42 who claim to be Christians 16:44 and even those of our own church are upset at me 16:46 because they say, you know, you're too much into politics. 16:50 You shouldn't be talking politics, 16:52 and my thing is, no, it's just the opposite, 16:55 the reason I wrote the book 16:56 is 'cause there's so much talk of the politics 16:58 and you're putting politics before God. 17:01 So I felt like I have to say something. 17:04 Again, I'm not perfect, I make mistakes. 17:07 But how can you sit still 17:08 when it's like people don't even realize 17:11 what's going on. 17:12 Sometimes you have to allow 17:14 your haters to be your motivators. 17:15 Okay. Come on, Jay. I like it. 17:18 With 3ABN, and the story behind 3ABN, 17:21 that reminds me of Noah's Ark, you know, 17:23 they didn't think it was going to rain either. 17:25 They didn't think rain was going to come down. 17:27 And Noah's just steady building the Ark 17:29 'cause God called him to do it and he was working on the Ark 17:32 and people were sitting outside scoffing 17:35 and making fun of him 17:36 and disrespecting God and all that stuff. 17:39 And then they felt that drop. Yeah. 17:42 But here's the thing, 17:44 I've had people write me already. 17:47 And you know people that are very well known 17:50 and their lives have been changed by this book, 17:53 "The Ten Commandments Twice Removed" book. 17:55 They're very controversial. But they write us. 17:58 On the other book, we know of over 40... 18:01 More specifically was on the Sabbath, 18:03 we know of over 40 pastors who were Sunday pastors 18:07 who keep the Sabbath just from reading that one. 18:10 Now we know of hundreds and even thousands of people 18:13 who have accepted it and have joined churches, 18:15 but I'm talking about even leadership 18:17 and other denominations 18:19 and yet there is a lot of people saying, 18:21 "Oh, you shouldn't pass this out, 18:22 it's too straightforward, you're gonna offend people." 18:25 But I feel like that's my responsibility, 18:28 it's my job. 18:30 John Lomacang lives not too far from us. 18:33 You know, my brother Kenny's 18:34 just across the road over there. 18:36 If some night, in the middle of the night, we say, 18:40 "Oh, Kenny's house is on fire, you know, I better... 18:43 "Oh, we better call him. 18:45 Oh, wait a minute, it's 2:00 in the morning, 18:46 I don't want to wake him up. 18:48 He goes to bed at 9:00. I might offend him. 18:50 You know, I don't want to offend him," 18:51 would I say that? 18:53 Absolutely not. 18:54 I'm going to do everything I can. 18:55 Well, why not spiritually do the same thing? 18:58 Why not love people enough 19:00 to take the chance of offending them? 19:02 Because sometimes... 19:03 One lady wrote says, 19:05 "You've knocked my boat right out of the water, 19:07 you know, I was so upset, but now I see." 19:11 And so I think that if we love people enough, 19:14 we'll tell them the truth. 19:16 And I try and I'm too old to be a politician now, 19:19 so it's too old to start. 19:20 I never have been. 19:22 So I just felt like there's an audience 19:25 that would listen over a million of these 19:26 that have been out in the last several months 19:28 and I praise the Lord for that. 19:30 And people are passing them out all over. 19:32 I mean, Trinidad and Tobago just got over 50,000 19:36 that they're passing out the countries over there 19:38 and doing it. 19:40 So people are passing these throughout New York City 19:42 and all over, 19:43 but we're getting some great responses of people 19:47 that never knew truth who said, "Man, I've learned so much." 19:50 but really almost the only people 19:53 who are not happy about it are people within the church 19:57 that aren't happy because I just tell the truth, 20:00 I try to take history and look at it 20:01 and tell the truth. 20:02 And they say, "It's okay." 20:04 Basically, they're saying, 20:05 "It's okay to talk about the Sabbath and all that, 20:07 your Ten Commandments book, we really support that. 20:10 But this one talks about, 20:11 you know, abortion and same sex marriage, 20:13 and that's just too hot a topic, 20:15 we shouldn't touch it." 20:16 But I say, "They're all part of the Ten Commandments, 20:19 not all of the commandments but the Ten Commandments." 20:22 So if one is the Bible says in James, you know, 20:25 "If we break one, we break them all." 20:27 so I feel like if the world is missing out 20:30 on the fourth commandment, 20:32 we want to be there to talk about it. 20:34 If our own people as well as much of the world 20:36 is overlooking, or forgetting, or ignoring, 20:39 or rebelling against the sixth and seventh commandment, 20:44 then we need to bring that up too 20:46 and let the light shine on it. 20:47 And that's what your book does, Spiritual Vigilante, 20:50 it's so interesting because, you know, 20:53 Adventists tend to be very comfortable, 20:55 you know, sharing the Sabbath. 20:58 You know, you've got to keep the Sabbath, 21:00 you've got to keep that fourth commandment. 21:01 Because we're talking about other people. 21:03 Exactly, exactly. 21:04 It's so easy to point to other people and say, 21:07 "You're not keeping the fourth commandment." 21:09 But what about us, are we trying to keep 21:13 all the commandments as Adventist? 21:15 Not just the fourth commandment, 21:17 but, you know, are we supporting candidates 21:19 who support anti-Biblical stances 21:23 like abortion, like same sex marriage? 21:26 You know, are we supporting them? 21:28 So this book actually it gets to everybody. 21:33 One of the things that is so impressive to me is that, 21:37 you know, the other day someone called the house, a friend, 21:42 who is very well known in gospel music industry 21:45 and said, "Your book is really messing with me." 21:48 Yeah, yeah. 21:50 Tell us about that without saying who it was. 21:52 Yeah, this person, most people would know, 21:55 not necessarily even just in gospel music 21:57 but because of association from their family name 22:00 into some big names in music, 22:04 even back to rock 'n' roll and all of that. 22:07 But he's full-time in ministry and traveling, yeah, he called, 22:12 and he said, you know, 22:14 "I read the book 22:15 and I'm actually on my second time 22:17 and you're really messed me up." 22:18 But here's what he said, 22:20 "It's so easy, when you said it..." 22:23 He's 60 plus years old now, and he said, 22:25 "I don't understand it. 22:26 How did I go my whole life and not see it 22:30 because I read the Bible 22:32 but I never saw all these things. 22:34 And so how is it that I missed it?" 22:37 Well, that says to you and me and those of us, 22:40 so many of you 22:41 Seventh-day Adventist Christians... 22:43 That says to us, and to Christians in general, 22:46 we have something that God has given us, light. 22:48 Don't put your light under a bushel, 22:51 you have to share that. 22:52 Raise that up and let that light shine before men 22:56 so that others will see Jesus. 22:58 And so what this said to me is, 23:00 you know, I should have been much more diligent. 23:02 I've known this man many, many years. 23:05 And he knows I'm a Seventh-day Adventist Christian, he's not, 23:08 and he knows some of what I believe. 23:11 But there is that fine line again. 23:12 Well, I don't want to be pushy, you know, whatever, 23:16 but now maybe it's God's timing 23:19 and, you know, started to beat myself up, 23:21 so I should have done it sooner, 23:23 maybe he wouldn't have been ready until now. 23:24 Right. But he's ready. 23:26 Then we had another friend 23:27 who's also an internationally-known 23:29 songwriter, called us and said, 23:32 "I have to tell you that I turned on 3ABN 23:36 and my whole life has changed in 30 minutes. 23:39 I never, really, understood 23:40 what would happen to me when I die..." 23:42 I won't get into the whole story, 23:44 but he said, "I would question pastors..." 23:46 And he goes to large churches, and they'd say, 23:48 "Well, you know, I think when you die, 23:50 you go straight to heaven or hell. 23:52 Why would you ask me a question?" 23:53 So people say, actually, there's a hell, and burning, 23:55 and being tortured all those years, 23:56 and doesn't bother God. 23:58 He's not... You know, his children. 23:59 And there's people in Heaven, 24:01 God took wives and mothers and babies from parents, 24:04 and they're all in heaven, living happily, 24:06 and they don't care that... 24:07 And God doesn't care that this little child 24:09 who's raised without a parent, my daughter Melody for one, 24:12 her mother was killed... 24:13 So he said, "At that point, they'd say, 24:16 'Uh, I don't really know.'" 24:18 I mean, so now he says, "I'm able to go tell them. 24:22 You know what, if you don't know 24:23 the answer to this, I'll tell them, when you die, 24:25 you sleep in the graves till Jesus comes, 24:27 and to last trumpet, 24:28 the dead in Christ shall rise first, 24:30 we which are alive and remain shall be drawn together, 24:33 caught up together in the air with the Lord." 24:36 And so it's really neat to see some of these things. 24:39 But I don't have to have... In other words, it's great... 24:42 And the Lord I think allows that. 24:44 But I know that I know that I know 24:47 that God had put it on my heart to write what I wrote. 24:49 And it's not saying 24:50 I couldn't have done a better job 24:52 or I couldn't have done... 24:53 But the burden that I have in my limited skills 24:55 and who I am... 24:57 See, you don't have to be the best at everything to do 24:59 something for God. 25:00 None of us are good in the sight of God. 25:02 We're all as filthy rags. 25:04 So you just be the best 25:05 you can be and let God do the rest. 25:07 And so in my limited skills, I write what hits me. 25:10 But I found out, you know what, 25:12 there's a lot of other people with limited skills 25:14 and a lot of other, you'd say, 25:16 people maybe that think the same way 25:19 as I do but they're open. 25:20 So you take your talents, your gifts, your abilities, 25:24 but the last thing we want to do is 25:25 keep that light hidden. 25:28 So let's be faithful, be bold enough, 25:31 and take a chance, I would say, 25:33 take the risk of offending people 25:35 to love them enough 25:37 because in the end, when Jesus comes back, 25:39 the last thing you and I want to hear, 25:42 you know, is Him to question us, 25:44 "Why didn't you do... 25:46 Why didn't you tell people about Me and My saving power? 25:49 Why didn't you tell them about 25:51 the deceits satan has 25:53 in the closing moments of Earth's history. 25:55 I let you live in a closing generation 25:58 and you didn't want to stand up. 26:00 You were too busy being politically correct." 26:02 Well, by God's grace. 26:04 Hopefully, you know, I'll answer to everything 26:07 that I've done wrong in my life, 26:09 but by God's grace, and His mercy, 26:12 all of us can have eternal life 26:14 when we submit and commit our lives to Jesus. 26:16 You know, one of the things that I love about your books 26:19 it uses common sense, you know. 26:21 I mean there's a lot of common sense in there. 26:23 And what's happening nowadays is the truth has been polluted 26:27 and it's convoluted 26:28 with a whole bunch of confusion, 26:30 and God is not the author of confusion. 26:32 So I like that. 26:34 And Jesus died for us publicly, 26:36 so I love what you're saying about not covering your light, 26:39 because He died for us publicly. 26:42 So we shouldn't just praise Him privately, 26:44 we should praise Him in public and share him with everybody. 26:46 Absolutely, absolutely. That's good. That's good. 26:48 And I'm thankful for what you two do 26:50 for the cause of God. 26:51 We're really thankful for you, at home and at work. 26:56 How can people get this book and how much is it? 26:59 Well, it's absolutely free. 27:01 All you have to do is write or e-mail us here at 3ABN, 27:05 and we'll send them out by the cases. 27:07 If you'll agree that you'll pass them out, 27:10 your churches, you know, community service, 27:12 however you want to do it, you get together and say, 27:15 send us 100 or even send 1,000, 27:17 all you have to pay is the shipping. 27:18 And we've found out shipping anywhere in America 27:21 is only $18 per 100. 27:23 So that's 18 cents. 27:25 So all you have in the book, 3ABN... 27:27 And we have donors who have given the money to say, 27:29 let's give this book away, let's don't sell it. 27:32 And your only commitment is that 27:33 you just pay the shipping 27:35 and then you share it with those around you. 27:37 Thank you so much. Wow. 27:39 Thank you so much for being with us. 27:40 You're welcome. Thank you. 27:42 It's good to be here, all right. 27:43 Thank you, Jay, co-hosting. Yes, yes. 27:45 And thank you. 27:46 You know, this book is such a blessing, it's free. 27:50 Get one, give it to someone, give it to your neighbor. 27:54 But get some of these 27:55 because these books can really make a difference. 27:58 Thank you for joining us. 27:59 Join us next time 'cause you know what, 28:00 it just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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