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Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000258A
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00:01 Stay tuned to meet a woman
00:02 whose gifts have made room for her. 00:04 My name is Yvonne Lewis Shelton 00:06 and you are watching Urban Report. 00:34 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report. 00:36 My guest today is Dr. Dona Cooper Dockery, 00:39 physician, missionary, author and founder 00:42 of the Cooper Wellness Center. 00:44 Welcome to Urban Report. 00:45 Oh, it's a pleasure. 00:46 Thank you for having me. 00:48 Oh, absolutely. 00:49 May I call you doc? 00:50 Doc is great. 00:52 Oh, great, great. 00:53 So before we talk about the Cooper Wellness Center, 00:55 I want to talk about you and your journey 00:57 and how you got to where you are. 01:00 So let's talk about your journey. 01:02 Where are you from? 01:03 I am from Jamaica, from western part of Jamaica. 01:06 Ah, Jamaica is beautiful. 01:08 Thank you. I've been there more than once. 01:09 It's a paradise. Lovely place. 01:11 Yes, indeed. 01:12 So you were raised in Jamaica? 01:14 Mm-hmm. 01:15 And at what point did you think you wanted to be a physician? 01:18 So I was raised at my grandparent's, 01:21 thanks to them, and then my mother... 01:24 I wanted to be a nurse 01:25 or a lab-tech and my mother told me 01:27 that my father wanted me to be a doctor. 01:30 So then I started thinking of becoming a doctor, 01:33 and then something happened when I was younger. 01:36 My church elder died. 01:38 I was right at his bed side when he died in the hospital. 01:41 I was very upset. 01:43 I said, "This shouldn't have happened. 01:46 Why did he die?" 01:47 Then I said, "You know what? 01:49 I am going to become a doctor to stop this." 01:52 And that's where my journey began. 01:54 Really? 01:55 So you decided at that... 01:57 That was a pivotal point for you. 01:59 Absolutely. 02:00 And so what did you do after that? 02:01 Did you decide to go on to medical school 02:04 in Jamaica or where did you go? 02:06 Well, then I was young. 02:07 So, of course, I went through our Adventist school system. 02:09 I went to high school. 02:11 Then I went to West Indies College, 02:12 now Northern Caribbean University. 02:15 Then I went to Montemorelos 02:18 and then from Montemorelos, 02:19 I did my seven years there, I went back to Jamaica, 02:22 worked for a year, went back to Mexico for a year 02:24 and then I went to New York 02:26 to do my residency in internal medicine. 02:29 And now I have been in the Rio Grande Valley 02:31 for the last 22 years. 02:33 Wow. 02:34 Wow, that's amazing. 02:35 What have you found to be some of the main challenges 02:40 that you've been confronted with on 02:43 this journey for wellness? 02:46 What I see... 02:47 I see my patients, even though I gave the best drugs, 02:51 the best care, they continue to have complications 02:54 whether it's renal failure or heart disease. 02:58 They are on so many drugs 03:00 and I realized this is not the way to go. 03:03 Why don't I empower them 03:05 to take control and prevent the disease 03:09 rather than treating the complication, 03:12 and that is what I am enjoying now. 03:14 Yes, yes, yes. 03:15 And that too, I would imagine, 03:19 took some pivotal events... 03:22 Absolutely. 03:24 To change that mindset? 03:25 I'll be honest, you know, 03:29 I was 25 pound overweight in 2010. 03:35 And then, in 2011, my area, McAllen Mission Texas 03:40 was the fattest in the United States. 03:43 So in 2010-11, I decided to change my lifestyle. 03:47 So I began to eat healthier, 03:50 to sleep more and just change lifestyle. 03:53 And I did so well that I decided 03:57 to give my patients the same remedy. 03:59 Why not? 04:01 And I am enjoying medicine now more than ever. 04:04 Yes. 04:05 So I spend a lot of my time educating patients. 04:08 And this is, I think a key 04:13 because, well, you said a few things here. 04:15 Number one, you wanted to empower your patients. 04:17 Absolutely. 04:19 And you do that by giving them information 04:23 but not only did you give them information, 04:26 you changed as well. 04:27 Absolutely. 04:29 They could look at you and say, 04:30 "Well, it worked for my doctor." 04:32 'Cause I have seen some doctors that are way, way overweight, 04:36 and they are trying to tell people 04:37 how to lose weight and this kind of like, 04:40 "You try first and then let me know." 04:42 Right? 04:43 So you empowered them with information, 04:47 you changed your lifestyle, 04:49 and you showed them through example how it worked. 04:54 And then, I'm sure, from that, 04:56 you tell me if I am right or not, 04:58 when they began to implement these things, 05:00 they saw changes in their numbers. 05:03 Absolutely. 05:04 Significant health miracles I would call them. 05:07 Let's talk about some of those. 05:08 Alrighty. 05:10 So one day a patient walked in with his mother, 05:14 25 years old, mother is a nurse. 05:17 He was 400 pounds. 05:19 Mother felt guilty. 05:21 "My son is 400 pound. 05:24 He is diabetic. 05:26 He has hypertension and I am a nurse." 05:27 And how old was he? 05:29 Twenty five, yes. 05:31 So we sat together, all three of us, 05:33 and we decided to use lifestyle rather than drugs. 05:39 He was in for the challenge. 05:41 He lost 90 pounds. Wow. 05:45 He changed his healthcare destiny. 05:49 Diabetes became controlled, 05:51 blood pressure better controlled, 05:52 cholesterol controlled 05:53 and he was just a happier person 05:55 and I have several of that. 05:57 That's it. 05:58 I think that what you are doing, 06:01 if more physicians would get involved 06:04 in lifestyle change and less pharmaceuticals, 06:09 it could change the health outcome. 06:12 Absolutely. 06:13 And so what you did was, 06:15 you kind of gave him a challenge, 06:17 he rose to the challenge, lost 90 pounds. 06:21 He must feel like a totally new person. 06:22 Absolutely. 06:24 He must look like a totally new person. 06:25 Looked and he felt... 06:27 Of course, the mother was very happy. 06:28 Yes, yes. 06:29 And I have several of the same stories. 06:31 Yes. 06:33 What's happening 06:34 is you are getting to the root cause. 06:38 You are not treating symptoms. No. 06:40 You are getting to the root cause. 06:41 And a lot of times I think, 06:44 well, I used to have a practice in Dallas, and... 06:48 Are you a physician too? 06:50 I am a naturopathic doctor and I was board certified 06:51 in traditional Chinese medicine 06:53 but God took me out of the Chinese medicine thing 06:57 because the acupuncture and all of that. 07:00 But I used to recommend herbs 07:03 and lifestyle change as a naturopath, 07:06 and some people are open 07:11 and they are ready to accept the challenge. 07:13 Other people are like, you know what? 07:15 I am not going to give up my pick something, 07:18 fried chicken, or my coffee... 07:21 My sodas. 07:22 Or my sodas, my cakes and cookies. 07:26 I'm not going to give that up. 07:28 So, you know, if they weren't up 07:31 for a lifestyle change, then I couldn't really help 07:34 because that's what I was equipped to do. 07:37 And so, but you, as a physician, 07:40 you could prescribe drugs, pharmaceuticals, 07:44 or you could teach lifestyle change 07:46 and you chose the latter. 07:48 Exactly. 07:50 And you saw great results. 07:51 Totally, totally. 07:53 So you were trained in allopathic medicine? 07:56 Absolutely. 07:57 At what point did you decide to do integrative medicine? 08:01 How did you get to a place 08:05 of realizing that nutrition 08:08 and exercise in the natural way was a really important thing 08:13 to integrate into your practice? 08:15 You see, I have a friend, Dr. Errol Bryce, 08:18 who spent many years doing lifestyle... 08:19 Do you know him? 08:21 Yes, I know Dr. Bryce, yes. 08:22 He is my mentor. 08:24 That is how... 08:25 He is a great mentor. 08:27 Yes, Dr. Charles Marcel as well. 08:29 So that is how I listened to these doctors 08:32 that I realized I needed to integrate 08:34 lifestyle medicine in my practice. 08:36 I have two, three offices, 08:38 two traditional medical practices 08:40 and then my lifestyle medicine practice. 08:43 And so how long has it been 08:45 since you started doing lifestyle medicine? 08:48 About eight years. 08:50 Okay, well, so have you found 08:54 that you have kind of immersed yourself in it 08:56 or are you studying it all the time? 08:58 I am totally immerged. 08:59 I spend a lot of time writing. 09:02 I have a magazine, Get Healthy, 09:05 that I publish every quarter. 09:08 I am on the radio, on TV locally, 09:11 two TV stations discussing lifestyle medicine, 09:15 the entire... 09:17 All my patients, my colleagues know that 09:19 Dr. Cooper emphasizes nutrition and exercise. 09:24 So if you are going to Dr. Cooper, be prepared. 09:26 Be prepared. 09:27 Exactly. 09:29 That's great. That's great. 09:31 And so in your daily practice 09:35 how do you introduce lifestyle to your patients? 09:39 How does that happen? 09:41 So usually, my patients are complex 09:43 those that are diabetics, that are not controlled, 09:47 those that are overweight, 09:48 those that have chronic diseases, 09:50 heart disease, I will discuss to them, 09:53 "Are you willing to get off medication? 09:56 Are you willing to use nutrition and exercise, 09:59 stress management and spiritual renewal 10:03 to improve your health?" 10:05 If they are ready for the change, 10:07 then I introduce them. 10:09 If they are not ready, it doesn't matter 10:11 what I do or say, nothing would happen. 10:13 I'll give you a story. 10:14 Good. 10:16 Couple of weeks ago, a pharmaceutical rep 10:18 walked into my office and he said to me, 10:20 "Hey, Dr. Cooper. 10:22 I lost 30 pounds." 10:23 I said, "How did you do that?" 10:25 He said, "I picked up one of your magazine. 10:27 That's where it began." 10:29 And my three year old daughter's 10:31 now asking for kale smoothie. 10:35 I love to tell the joke. 10:37 And then, couple of weeks later, 10:38 he came back, "I am now 50 pounds down." 10:42 You see? So he was ready for the change. 10:44 I did not speak to him. He read my magazine. 10:48 So those patients who are ready for the change, it happened. 10:51 Another story. 10:53 Another patient walked in, "Hey, Dr. Cooper, 10:54 I lost X amount of weight and I going to do surgery." 10:57 "What happened?" 10:59 "Well, sometime in the past you discussed nutrition with me 11:03 and that's where it began." 11:04 So those people were ready for the change. 11:07 It just happened. 11:09 I think that is key. 11:11 Mm-hmm? 11:12 You can't make someone do. 11:14 No. 11:16 They have to be ready and willing to do it. 11:19 Right. To implement. 11:21 To implement, to get started. 11:23 You can motivate, you can, you know, 11:25 give them the rah-rah, 11:27 but until they are ready to do it, 11:30 nothing will happen. 11:32 True. Nothing will happen. 11:33 So you have found that through your magazine, 11:37 through your practice. 11:40 What do you do for stress management? 11:43 What do you do with your patients? 11:45 You mentioned stress management. 11:46 I pray with my patients lot of times. 11:49 They come in, I can access, 11:51 I don't pray with all my patients. 11:54 I know when they need something beyond. 11:57 So I pray with my patients. 11:59 We have Bible studies in the wellness center. 12:03 Nice. Right. 12:04 Let's talk about this. 12:05 So is the wellness center kind of an evangelistic tool? 12:09 Absolutely, that is a ministry. Okay. 12:12 It's the ministry arm of my practice. 12:14 Oh, I love it. 12:15 'Cause that is why I'm so happy. 12:16 I mean, I'm totally focused in changing lives for today 12:22 but for eternity, you know. 12:23 That's right. 12:25 And you are in a great position to do that because as people, 12:29 the health message, 12:30 of course, is the entering wedge, 12:32 so as people get healthier, 12:35 they want to look to you for other guidance as well. 12:37 Exactly. They trust you more. 12:39 When patient will walk in to their doctor, 12:41 they will open to the doctor. 12:42 Right. 12:44 I have patients who walk in and say, 12:45 "Hey, Dr. Coop, can I speak with you?" 12:46 "Okay, how can I help you?" 12:48 "Can you pray for my grandson, 12:49 or my son, or my daughter that I don't know?" 12:52 So as physician, nurses and health care providers, 12:56 we are placed in a peculiar position 13:00 to help people not only with their physical health 13:04 but social and spiritual health. 13:06 And we need to understand this 13:08 because we are placed here for a reason. 13:10 Yes. 13:11 The reason is to go, tell, 13:13 preach and prepare for God's second coming, 13:16 and we must do so or else He is not going to come. 13:20 That's right. 13:21 I love the fact 13:23 that you are looking at the whole person. 13:25 Total person. 13:26 You are not just impacting health, 13:29 but you are acknowledging 13:31 that true health is not just the physical aspect 13:35 but it's the emotional, the social, the spiritual. 13:39 I take a holistic approach to health. 13:41 Yes. Not all my patients are open. 13:43 99.99%. 13:46 I've never asked to pray with a patient 13:48 and the patient have said no, never. 13:50 Really? Never. 13:52 So you have that sense of for whom you should pray. 13:56 Absolutely. 13:57 And I believe the Holy Spirit gives you 13:58 that to let you know pray for this one, 14:01 pray with that one. 14:02 Right. 14:04 I had a patient who came to me, new patient, 14:05 she said, "I am in your office 14:07 because I was told that you pray 14:09 with your patients." 14:11 That's the only reason why she came to me. 14:12 Wow. 14:13 And unfortunately, one day she came, 14:15 all right another patient and I didn't suggest a prayer. 14:19 And she went out and she said, 14:20 "I almost came back 14:22 because you didn't pray for me today." 14:23 I said, "Why didn't you call me? 14:25 Why didn't you just come back to the office?" 14:28 She wanted that prayer. She wanted that prayer, yes. 14:30 That was her medicine. Yes, yes, yes. 14:33 I used to pray with my patients too 14:35 in my office at Dallas 14:36 and it means something to them. 14:39 Absolutely. It really does. 14:40 It means a lot to them. 14:42 So let's say someone comes 14:45 to the Cooper Wellness Center. 14:49 Where do you start with them? 14:51 What is the actual process? Okay. 14:55 So first of all, 14:56 they have to have the desire for the change. 15:00 And then, at the Cooper Wellness Center, 15:02 it's set up like a lifestyle center. 15:04 So we have an educational room, 15:06 a classroom where we discuss various topics in health. 15:10 We have a gym, a full gym with a coach there. 15:16 Then we have the full teaching kitchen. 15:19 So they go from the educational to the gym, 15:23 then they are at the kitchen where we're going to sit, 15:27 discuss food as a medicine, do cooking demonstration, 15:31 show them how they can change the way they eat 15:34 using plant based but healthy, nutritious, and delicious. 15:39 That is awesome. 15:41 And you actually came here to 3ABN 15:43 and did some cooking programs. 15:44 Yes. 15:46 Tell us some of the foods you cooked. 15:47 Okay, so we cooked macaroni and cheese without the cheese, 15:51 without the cholesterol, very tasty. 15:52 Got you. 15:53 We cooked basmati seasoned brown rice. 15:56 We made an ice-cream that was so delicious 15:59 without the cholesterol. 16:01 We made Southwest Black Bean burger. 16:04 Ah, you're making me hungry right now. 16:08 We made a meatless meatball. 16:10 It was just something else, the experience. 16:13 I think that when people find that 16:16 you can have tasty healthy foods. 16:20 Yes. 16:21 Some health foods taste so bland and nobody is like, 16:27 "I don't want to eat like that." 16:28 That's right. 16:30 But if it can be tasty, seasoned well, 16:33 and similar, not so foreign 16:36 but you know, similar it can really be good. 16:40 That's right. 16:41 And so you are teaching them how to, when they leave you, 16:47 they can continue what you are teaching them 16:49 because you are giving them 16:51 the skills in the kitchen to continue that. 16:54 We are using food as medicine. 16:56 Some patients would walk in 16:58 and they are hesitant to try the food 17:00 because it is not what they are accustomed to. 17:02 Right, right. 17:03 But after tasting the food, they want the recipe, 17:05 they usually go with the recipe. 17:07 Or I'm going to make that or they'd send me a message, 17:09 "Hey, I made this. 17:11 It was delicious." 17:13 I have patients telling me, 17:14 "Hey, I have my entire family on this plant-based nutrition. 17:18 They don't even know what they are eating." 17:20 That's true. 17:22 Because the recipes are so delicious. 17:24 Yes, yes. 17:25 And they start to lose the weight. 17:27 Oh, lose the weight, 17:29 improve their sugar, blood pressure. 17:31 I had a gentleman who walked in my office recently. 17:34 He has had hypertension 17:37 for 30 years on medication. 17:41 Thirty years? Thirty years. 17:42 He wanted to get off. 17:44 So he came to my office 17:45 and asked me if he could get off the drugs. 17:47 I said, "Sure. 17:48 Let us put you on a different lifestyle." 17:51 Not a diet, now it's a lifestyle. 17:55 And in four weeks, he got off his medication. 17:59 After being on for all of those years? 18:01 Thirty years. 18:03 My... 18:04 So, of course, he changed his diet. 18:06 He started to exercise, manage his stress well, 18:10 you know, pray, have good relationships, 18:12 it's the whole benefactors with this lifestyle changes. 18:16 And I have so many more patients. 18:18 A patient of mine, 70 years old, 18:20 heart disease, diabetes, obesity, depression, 18:23 just lost his wife. 18:24 He was going in and out the hospital 18:26 11 times in one year. 18:30 I physically went into the emergency room 18:33 and I said, "Mr. so and so, 18:35 I'm going to get you out of this hospital. 18:37 I want you to come to the wellness 18:39 and disease prevention center. 18:42 I'll put you in a program 18:45 to keep you out of the hospital, 18:47 to decrease your medication so you can fell well again. 18:51 It's going to involve a change in the way 18:52 you eat and exercise." 18:53 He said to me, "Dr. Cooper, 18:55 I can't get from my bed to my chair. 18:57 How am I going to exercise?" I said, "Don't worry about it. 18:59 We'll work something out." 19:01 And believe me, he did so well 19:04 that he got from the bed 19:06 to the chair, chair to the walker, 19:08 walker to the cane, and then without the cane. 19:11 Come on. 19:12 And he was out of the hospital for many, many months. 19:16 He did so well. 19:17 Look at God. God is wonderful. 19:19 If we use the natural remedies and the things 19:22 that He has given us, we can get well. 19:25 Absolutely. So what a blessing that is. 19:27 Sure. 19:28 I must emphasize that there are many places for medication, 19:32 not all... 19:34 You know, patients would be off medication. 19:35 Right, right. 19:37 So I practiced traditional medicines. 19:38 So patients who don't want to change lifestyle 19:40 they are on drugs. 19:42 Right. 19:43 Patients who can get off all of their hypertensions 19:46 and medications, then they are on some, you see? 19:49 So, you know, there are different levels. 19:51 And I think it's important to acknowledge that. 19:54 I think it's important to state that 19:57 we are not telling you to get off of your medications. 19:59 Absolutely not. 20:00 Do not do that. 20:02 We are not telling you to do that. 20:03 What we are saying is that through natural means 20:07 and under the supervision of a physician 20:10 like Dr. Cooper here, it can happen. 20:15 By the grace of God it can happen. 20:17 But we are not saying, 20:18 "Just stop taking any medication 20:20 and do the natural thing." 20:21 Because that's irresponsible 20:23 if you've been on medication for years 20:24 and years and years and you just up 20:26 and that's not what the doctor is saying. 20:27 No, no. 20:29 So and I think that's a very important point 20:31 because some people will misunderstand 20:33 and think they should get off and not take any. 20:36 I'm saying there is hope. That's right. 20:38 Studies have shown that the number one risk factor 20:40 for chronic diseases, it's the food you eat. 20:44 I almost spoke in Spanish, but it's the food you eat. 20:48 I didn't know you... 20:49 I lost my own... 20:50 You seek lot of diseases. Okay, well, I know. 20:52 Therefore, if food is a problem, 20:55 if food is the cause of your problem, 20:58 then how do you treat it? 20:59 With food. With food. 21:00 Exactly. Right. 21:02 But I think all too often we don't make the connection 21:06 between nutrition and disease status. 21:07 Exactly. 21:09 We just don't. 21:10 And we eat what we want to eat, come on you know, you know, 21:15 you want to eat what you want to eat and so... 21:17 But if you can find foods 21:20 that kind of satisfy that taste craving 21:24 that you have as well as that makes you healthy... 21:27 That's right, why not? 21:29 It's a win-win. Exactly. 21:30 It's a win-win. Right. 21:31 So right now my emphasis is teaching patients 21:34 to use healthier food. 21:36 Eat more of the good stuff. 21:38 Eat more of the food 21:40 that gives you vitamins and antioxidants, 21:42 the nutrients and iron, and eat less of the things 21:46 that give you cholesterol and sugar and heart disease. 21:50 Because it's very hard for patients 21:52 to really change the way they eat. 21:54 Yes. We must be realistic. 21:55 Absolutely. 21:57 Things are culturally determined. 21:58 Exactly. 22:00 You know, so you just said 22:02 that you made macaroni and cheese. 22:05 That's a cultural thing in many American households 22:09 and in black community too. 22:11 Mac and cheese, that's a big deal. 22:13 But you made a different kind. 22:15 A healthier kind. That's right. 22:17 We made meatballs, the healthier kind. 22:19 Right, right. 22:21 And what you're doing now 22:23 is you are establishing health principles. 22:25 Exactly. 22:26 So you are saying, 22:28 "Okay, instead of eating this way..." 22:30 "Why don't we try it this way?" 22:32 "Do this." 22:33 Do the healthier thing. 22:35 Do something... 22:36 Do eat food, not prepackaged processed things 22:40 but food that's going to nourish 22:43 with vitamins and minerals. 22:44 Iron and all this. 22:46 Eat food not too much and mostly plant. 22:49 One of my colleagues said that. 22:51 So you must eat food, don't overeat. 22:54 But mostly plant. 22:56 If the patients... 22:57 If we can understand that in general, 22:59 we'll have healthier people, healthier families, 23:02 healthier communities and a healthier nation. 23:04 Yes, we will. 23:05 And so McAllen was the obesity capital? 23:11 Yes, of American in 2011. 23:13 And we did well. 23:15 We dropped into about number four, 23:18 and then, this year, we went back up. 23:22 So we have to work harder and harder 23:25 because we are so fat in McAllen. 23:28 We have young people with diabetes, hypertension, 23:32 heart disease, 12, 9 years old. 23:36 So it shows that if we as heath care provider 23:39 don't empower and teach patients 23:41 who want to learn how to stay healthier, 23:44 they don't have the information. 23:45 We have to empower them by giving them information, 23:50 so they can make informed decision on health 23:54 and that's how we are going to change 23:56 our healthcare destiny. 23:57 Absolutely, if you know better, you can do better. 23:59 Absolutely. 24:00 If you don't know better, how are you going to do better? 24:02 Right. Right. So that's great. 24:03 So were you always a Christian? 24:07 No, no, I became 24:08 a Seventh-day Adventist at age 12 24:10 after being enrolled 24:12 in one of our Seventh-day Adventist schools. 24:15 My grandparents, they were Baptists, 24:18 and I had a hard time, 24:19 actually, I was asked to leave the house at age 12 24:23 because I became a Seventh-day Adventist. 24:25 Really? Did they think it was occult? 24:27 Not occult, but they didn't like the religion. 24:29 You worship on Saturday, you don't eat this, 24:32 don't eat that and so forth. 24:34 And they asked you to leave? 24:35 Yes, my grandfather asked me to leave. 24:36 But my grandmother asked me to stay. 24:40 So I remained there and you know what happened? 24:42 Guess what happened? What? 24:44 I've never even discussed the message with them 24:47 but they died Seventh-day Adventists 24:49 just because of the example. 24:51 Praise the Lord. So they saw how you lived. 24:53 They saw the difference, they saw how I lived, 24:56 and so for my sister now is a Seventh-day Adventist. 25:01 Really? 25:02 So I really believe in living evangeliving, 25:07 that is the most powerful way 25:09 of reaching family members or friends, 25:12 just living the lifestyle. 25:13 Evangeliving, I love that. That's a good term. 25:17 I'll give you credit for it but I love it. 25:20 I might have to use it but I love it. 25:22 Evangeliving and that's 25:24 you are reaching out through example. 25:27 And did I tell you that from my wellness center, 25:30 we've had five baptisms. 25:32 Really? Praise the Lord. 25:34 So we are evangelizing right there 25:37 in the wellness center. 25:39 Praise the Lord. 25:40 I really believe that as Seventh-day Adventist 25:42 physician, nurses, whatever, teachers, 25:45 we must tell others about Him. 25:47 Yeah. 25:48 Find a way to preach the gospel. 25:50 Yes. 25:51 So that God could come and come sooner. 25:53 I enjoy using health. 25:54 We know that health is the open door 25:58 or health message. 25:59 That's right. 26:00 And we need to use it as healthcare providers 26:03 to reach others. 26:05 That's what we're doing right there in South Texas. 26:07 That's wonderful. 26:09 You have a website? 26:10 Yes, I have a website. 26:11 We'll put that website out for you 26:13 and people can contact you. 26:15 If anybody is in that vicinity or if anybody... 26:18 Worldwide, any... 26:19 Worldwide too. I have online courses. 26:22 Oh, wonderful. 26:23 Yes, so I can be reached anywhere. 26:25 So if they are in Texas, 26:27 I am there at the wellness center. 26:28 If they are anywhere in the world, 26:29 I can reach them through my courses. 26:31 That's incredible. 26:33 You are doing a great work. 26:34 And you've traveled... 26:35 I traveled, yeah, all the world, 26:37 just got back from Africa. 26:39 I go to Africa frequently, went twice. 26:42 And in the last trip we baptized over 300 people, 26:45 reached 3000 patients, had 100 eye surgeries. 26:49 God is wonderful. 26:51 Look at how you are using your gifts. 26:53 Yes, yes. 26:54 God has given you so many gifts 26:55 and you are using them to His glory. 26:57 That's right. And that's what it's all about. 27:00 That's right. 27:02 Just in 20 seconds, 27:03 what would you tell a patient right now 27:06 who is battling with chronic disease. 27:08 There is hope, hope is there. 27:12 You don't have to be on all these drugs. 27:15 Find someone, find your doctor, find my website, 27:20 we can lead you on how to change lifestyle, 27:24 become healthier, 27:25 use less medication and you can do well. 27:30 Oh, thank you so much. It's a pleasure. 27:32 Thank you for having me. What a blessing to have you. 27:34 Thank you so much. 27:35 We really appreciate all that you are doing 27:37 in the community to make a difference. 27:40 It's so important to use our gifts for God, 27:43 and as you've seen, 27:44 Dr. Cooper Dockery is doing just that. 27:48 Well, we've reached another end of another program. 27:50 I can't believe it. The time went by so fast. 27:53 Thank you for tuning in. 27:54 Make sure you join us next time 'cause you know what? 27:56 It's just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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