Urban Report

Two Callings, One Purpose

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Program Code: UBR190002A


00:01 Are you answering the call?
00:02 Well, stay tuned to meet a couple that is answering
00:04 God's call in two unique ways.
00:07 My name is Jason Bradley,
00:09 and you're watching Urban Report.
00:33 Hello and welcome to Urban Report,
00:35 my guests today are Eric and Marilyn Durant.
00:38 Eric is a Broadcast Engineer
00:40 and Marilyn is the Manager of 3ABN's Call Center.
00:43 Welcome to Urban Report, Eric and Marilyn.
00:46 It's our pleasure to be here, Jason.
00:47 I feel like you guys are far away so I'll wave,
00:53 but it's great to have you guys here,
00:55 you're no stranger to us here at 3ABN
00:58 and probably with our viewers too,
01:00 because you, Eric,
01:02 played Mullick on Workin' the Dream.
01:04 And you guys have also been
01:06 on 3ABN's Family Worship as well.
01:10 So I want to introduce
01:11 the Dare to Dream viewers to you, you guys
01:16 and get a little bit of your background.
01:18 Where were you raised, Eric?
01:20 Well, I was raised in Brooklyn, New York.
01:22 Okay.
01:23 We left Brooklyn when I was eight or nine years old,
01:26 and we moved to Queens.
01:28 Okay.
01:29 My father was an engineer for IBM,
01:32 and my mother worked for the postal system.
01:34 Okay.
01:35 And they were both Catholics,
01:37 right up until probably my fourth or fifth birthday
01:41 when things change, we started going
01:42 to Baptist Church at that point.
01:44 Okay. Okay.
01:46 And what about you, Marilyn?
01:49 I was born and raised in Pueblo, Colorado.
01:53 And my mother worked for a local bank there,
01:57 and my father worked for a local steel mill.
02:01 Okay.
02:02 And raised in the Baptist Church.
02:06 Okay, so, so both of you were raised Baptist.
02:10 But now you're Adventist.
02:11 Now we're Adventist.
02:13 We're gonna get to that part of the story,
02:14 the conversion story and all of that stuff.
02:17 It's a praise the Lord moment.
02:18 Yes, yes.
02:20 And how did you guys meet each other?
02:22 We met in Denver, Colorado.
02:24 Might just got out of the military
02:26 maybe six months earlier.
02:27 Okay.
02:28 And getting to Colorado
02:30 when you first got out the military as a Christian
02:32 is challenging when you're in the dating environment.
02:35 It's hard to find genuine Christians.
02:38 You know, as a young man, I was in my early 30s.
02:42 And I was looking around
02:44 and I just couldn't find anybody
02:45 that matched my values, my Christian values.
02:48 It's the values that I just learned
02:50 as being an Adventist
02:51 because I got baptized and then I got honorably discharged
02:55 from the military six months later,
02:57 so I was a brand new Adventist.
02:59 I had the Adventist heart, the Adventist mind.
03:03 And finding a Christian female that shared those,
03:06 that philosophy was difficult.
03:09 Now unpack that, you said the Adventist heart,
03:11 the Adventist mind, what do you mean by that?
03:13 It is a dedication for the truth.
03:17 Okay.
03:18 It's living that dedication for the truth.
03:22 It's staying away from the things
03:24 that pollute your heart, pollute your mind.
03:28 And I found that a lot of the people that I dated,
03:31 they were, they were marginal Christians.
03:35 They were cultural Christians.
03:38 And at that point in my life, I was beyond that,
03:40 I didn't want a marginal, cultural,
03:44 I needed someone that was dedicated as I was
03:46 because I knew that I'd be leaning on her.
03:49 And she'd be leaning on me as we move towards Jesus.
03:52 Nice. Nice. Yeah.
03:53 So in other words, when you say the marginal Christian,
03:56 you mean like one that's conveniently Christian,
03:59 or, you know, fitting Christianity
04:01 around their personal lifestyle preferences
04:04 and all of that stuff.
04:06 That's right.
04:07 I wanted the Christian
04:09 who their life revolved around their Christianity.
04:12 And at the time everybody I met,
04:16 basically, their Christianity was out on the...
04:19 Far out in orbit somewhere
04:21 and their heart revolved around their music
04:23 or revolved around their career.
04:27 They had idols that I didn't agree with,
04:29 as far as media people, entertainers, things like that.
04:34 Okay.
04:35 And I don't know if I should tell this story,
04:37 but it's an interesting one.
04:39 Finally, really settled my mind on going the route that I went,
04:44 which was, I went to an online dating service.
04:46 Okay.
04:47 And what made me do that
04:49 was the final person I went out on the date with,
04:52 and she brought a doll with her.
04:54 And she said that
04:55 I said, it's kinda odd, this doll sitting here.
04:58 I said, "What's this doll."
05:00 And she said that,
05:02 she used this doll prior for a few days
05:05 prior to our date.
05:06 And it was her way of bonding with her dates before the date.
05:11 And it turned out that she was a voodoo Christian
05:15 mix sort of thing.
05:17 Wait a minute, she used a doll to bond with her...?
05:22 Dates.
05:23 Dates, before she went out with her dates.
05:25 That's right.
05:26 And then she brought the doll along
05:28 and turned out talking to her later on
05:30 that she was some strange mix
05:31 between voodoo and Christianity.
05:34 And I said to myself,
05:37 it's time to try another method.
05:38 And I went to an online service where I put in certain things,
05:42 Christian and certain things, and...
05:44 And where did you meet her again?
05:46 In Denver.
05:48 In Denver, just like,
05:49 you just kind of ran into her and...
05:51 Yeah, is actually it was a supermarket.
05:53 Wow!
05:54 Yeah, it was a supermarket and we just started talking,
05:57 and we swap numbers
05:59 and we agreed to meet at a restaurant.
06:01 Okay.
06:02 And in a few days, you know, that's where we met.
06:06 Wow, I'm glad you ended up with Marilyn as your bride
06:09 by your side.
06:10 Praise the Lord.
06:12 Now, I hope that lady is out
06:13 of what she was practicing before for,
06:15 you know, the sake of her soul and all that stuff.
06:17 But I'm glad that Marilyn is your bride.
06:20 Amen. Yes, yes.
06:22 So, Marilyn, during this time, prior to meeting online,
06:26 where were you at in your life?
06:28 I was living in Denver and going to college
06:34 and just working
06:37 and at the time my stepfather had passed away.
06:41 And so I was going back and forth to Pueblo
06:45 to be with my mom
06:46 and my girlfriend and her husband
06:50 at the time felt like you need somebody in your life.
06:53 And her husband heard about this online dating service.
06:57 And I didn't want to do it.
06:59 So my excuse was,
07:02 I'm going to see my mom and I can't do it.
07:05 And finally, one weekend, I made the mistake.
07:07 Well, now, looking back, it's not a mistake.
07:10 But I said, she asked, "What was I doing?"
07:14 And I told her, I said, "Oh, I'll be here this weekend.
07:17 Did you want to do something?" "Oh, great.
07:19 Now you can come and fill out
07:21 this questionnaire for the online dating."
07:24 And I thought, "Ah, I messed up"
07:27 'cause, you know, I didn't want to go that route.
07:29 But I did and praise the Lord that I did,
07:32 because I met my husband.
07:34 Amen.
07:36 And the interesting thing is, I was the first,
07:38 she was the first person that came up in the list.
07:41 Yeah.
07:42 And I ended up marrying her, there was nobody else.
07:45 Wow.
07:46 And he was the first one that I responded to.
07:50 So it was providential.
07:51 So like, what, what did that look like?
07:53 Like, okay, so you have the online dating thing,
07:55 you met online.
07:56 She was the first one that came up,
07:58 and then you reached out to her
08:00 and send her a note and just said, like,
08:03 you know, let's get married or how, what happened?
08:06 What happened there?
08:07 If I remember, right, it was, um,
08:10 we commerce text message wise, through the service,
08:14 and then went back and forth for a few weeks.
08:16 Yes.
08:18 And I had to convince her to go out with me.
08:20 Okay.
08:21 So it took a bit of convincing.
08:22 Okay.
08:24 I basically begged and eventually she said yes.
08:29 And we had our first date.
08:31 Nice, nice.
08:33 How long have you guys been married?
08:35 We've been married since March 18 of 2006.
08:40 Wow, wow. Praise the Lord.
08:43 So what's the,
08:44 you know, for those couples that are out there
08:47 that are considering getting married,
08:49 and all of those things.
08:50 What has been the glue in your marriage, so to speak,
08:55 what has helped you guys to make it this far?
08:58 I have to insist that it's Jesus.
09:01 Amen.
09:04 In any relationship,
09:05 you have to have open lines of communication.
09:08 And I look at marriage as a three way marriage,
09:12 it's you, Jesus and your wife,
09:15 and you're all communicating together.
09:17 And when that communication stops,
09:19 such as prayer,
09:21 or communicating with your spouse,
09:23 when that stops, things start to decay.
09:26 So we make sure
09:28 that we always keep the lines of communication open.
09:31 We pray to Jesus and we talk and we we pray together.
09:35 And that's the secret.
09:38 So in other words, like as you draw closer to Christ,
09:41 you guys draw closer to each other.
09:44 Absolutely. Yes.
09:45 Absolutely. Yes, nice.
09:47 Now, Eric, you were in the military.
09:50 And when you got out of the military,
09:51 what did you do for work?
09:54 Well, I went into the military as...
09:56 When I joined, I was a commercial pilot,
09:59 and I spent 12 years active duty
10:03 and during that time in the service,
10:05 I was involved in research and development
10:07 and flight test.
10:08 Okay.
10:10 And that led to my career after the military in 2002,
10:15 when I moved to Denver.
10:16 I started working with Boeing as an engineer.
10:19 Okay.
10:20 Yeah, and we worked a lot of missile defense programs
10:22 and things like that.
10:23 Wow.
10:25 So my education and my experience
10:26 through the military led to my career with Boeing,
10:30 which was completely a blessing.
10:33 I never interviewed for that job.
10:36 And there's a lot of companies out there.
10:39 And I always, since I was a child,
10:41 I always wanted to work for Boeing,
10:42 because they're the big name.
10:44 Yes.
10:45 And so when I got to Colorado,
10:47 someone just spotted me and they said,
10:51 "We see you working, we know of your performance,
10:54 would you like to work for the Boeing Company?"
10:56 And they knew my track record from the military and so forth.
10:59 And I said absolutely.
11:02 And it was as easy as that.
11:04 And how was it
11:06 as a Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
11:08 how was that working there
11:10 like how did you keep the Sabbath,
11:12 how did that work?
11:14 Keeping the Sabbath for me was mandatory,
11:17 and one of the nice things about the job
11:19 that I had was um...
11:21 We only worked five days a week,
11:24 we didn't work weekends.
11:26 There are a lot of careers.
11:27 One of the reasons
11:28 why I never went the airline pilot route
11:30 is because the airline pilots don't have the option,
11:33 they have to fly seven days a week.
11:35 Got you.
11:37 So I stopped that,
11:38 I went into engineering
11:39 and because generally you can set your schedule a lot better.
11:45 And, Marilyn, what about you, what were you doing work wise?
11:49 I was an account reconciler for a company named First Data.
11:54 Okay.
11:56 And I...
11:58 That's what I was doing during that time.
12:00 Nice.
12:01 And so what brought you guys to 3ABN?
12:04 Well,
12:06 throughout my whole life,
12:08 God's been talking to me,
12:10 you know, I started out as a gang member,
12:16 believe it or not.
12:17 And even during that period of time,
12:21 I always had a spirit of caring about people.
12:27 You know, I never robbed anyone.
12:29 I never dealt drugs.
12:31 I never tried to physically hurt people.
12:37 And I always wondered why,
12:39 you know, I was always, they used to call me,
12:41 they'd call me quite a few different names.
12:43 One of the names that they call me was preacher.
12:45 Okay.
12:46 My doctrine wasn't there.
12:48 I didn't know anything about Seventh-day Adventist theology,
12:50 but I was always preaching to people.
12:51 So I always had that spirit.
12:53 And, of course, you get sidetracked in life.
12:56 And eventually, we had a life event
13:00 in 2005, 2006.
13:07 Marilyn got a phone call one night, and...
13:11 No, she didn't actually get a phone call.
13:13 She called her mother.
13:15 Okay.
13:16 And no one picked up
13:18 and Marilyn started to get upset.
13:21 And I said, "No, everything's fine."
13:22 Well, it turned out, her mother passed away in her sleep.
13:26 And month and a half later, after that,
13:30 both of my parents died,
13:32 they died a week apart.
13:34 Both of your parents?
13:36 They both passed away.
13:37 So in the span of a month and a half,
13:39 we had three close family members die.
13:42 And when that happens, you start asking questions like
13:45 what's going on, you know, it's very, very traumatic.
13:49 And during that time,
13:51 I was working for Boeing in Seattle.
13:54 And I started hearing this...
13:57 I wouldn't say was a voice
13:58 but was a very strong impression.
14:00 And it kept saying, it's time, it's time, it's time.
14:04 And I'm sitting in meetings,
14:05 board meetings and things like that
14:07 and I'm hearing it's time.
14:08 Eventually, I got frustrated
14:10 after about the week and a half of hearing this.
14:11 I said, "What's going on, Lord, you know, what is this?
14:15 What is this impression that I'm getting?"
14:17 And it was late at night when I said that prayer.
14:20 And the next morning, there was an email from 3ABN
14:24 to come and work for 3ABN.
14:26 Wow!
14:28 And we came out, we didn't interview,
14:31 and we decided that it really wasn't for us.
14:36 And I prayed another prayer,
14:37 I said, "Lord,
14:38 you know, if this is really what You want,
14:40 Your will be done above anything else."
14:44 And right after that prayer...
14:46 And this prayer was may be a week and half later,
14:48 right after this prayer,
14:50 Moses Primo who is my boss now, he called on the phone.
14:54 And so, I said, "Okay, we'll think about it."
15:00 In another week or two past,
15:01 and I'm struggling
15:03 because right then we were planning on retiring
15:05 and semi retiring and moving down to Texas.
15:08 And I said another prayer,
15:10 I'm fighting inside and I said, "Lord,
15:11 you know, if this is really what You want,
15:14 I'll do whatever You want."
15:17 And right after that prayer, Moses calls again.
15:20 Wow!
15:21 And I always remembered when I was a kid,
15:25 I read a story in the Bible of the rich, young ruler.
15:30 And I always remember saying to myself,
15:32 I'm a teenager, in the gangs.
15:35 My mother gave a Bible,
15:37 and that's one of the first verses
15:40 that I've read and I remember saying to myself,
15:42 I will never do that.
15:44 How could you turn your back on Christ for the world?
15:47 And so when I started deciding
15:51 that we weren't coming to 3ABN,
15:54 the rooster started crowing.
15:57 Wow!
15:59 And as very convicted
16:01 and so it turned after the third phone call,
16:04 we decided that we were gonna stop our move,
16:06 we were mid-way through our moving,
16:08 to our Cinco Ranch, Texas.
16:10 We decided to stop and come to work for 3ABN
16:14 because it's what the Lord wanted us to do.
16:17 Yeah, so your answered the call.
16:19 The call was quite persistent from what it sounds like.
16:24 Yes.
16:25 And I'm sure you were praying as well, I would imagine.
16:28 Yes.
16:30 So what position did you take on, Marilyn,
16:33 when you came to 3ABN?
16:36 Well, when we first got here,
16:38 I had no intentions on working. I was just coming for Eric.
16:43 And three months later, Mollie called and said,
16:47 "What are your plans?"
16:48 And I said, "Well, I don't know,
16:50 I'm just here waiting for Eric to get home."
16:52 And she said, "Would you like a job?"
16:54 And I said, "Sure!"
16:56 And so I came here
16:57 as the assistant call center manager
17:01 and here I am today.
17:03 And now you are the manager of the call center.
17:07 And what does a typical day look like for you,
17:09 if there is a typical day?
17:12 There is not a typical day.
17:14 There's a lot of...
17:17 We deal with shipping and receiving,
17:19 I deal with vendors when they need product,
17:22 and ordering products for 3ABN.
17:25 And so there is no typical day.
17:30 It's kind of random,
17:32 whatever happens that day, you have to deal with.
17:35 You guys get to interact
17:36 with all the viewers that call in.
17:37 The viewers, we get people that walk in,
17:41 you deal with walk-ins,
17:43 and I also have to deal with our shipping
17:48 like, FedEx
17:49 and things like that USPS and so, yeah.
17:53 In other words, you're very busy over there.
17:55 We are very busy.
17:56 Yes. Yes. Absolutely.
17:58 And, Eric, what's a...
18:00 First off, what does a broadcast engineer do?
18:04 And then, what's your day look like?
18:08 Well, a broadcast engineer at 3ABN,
18:10 our basic responsibility,
18:12 really our primary responsibility
18:14 is keeping 3ABN on the air 24 hours a day,
18:17 and seven days a week.
18:19 That means,
18:20 our internet streams keeping those up.
18:22 It's a huge task.
18:23 Our satellite streams, keeping those up,
18:26 over the air from our uplinks, keeping those up,
18:29 so people can put the rabbit ears up
18:31 and get us over on their television sets.
18:33 So that's our main role.
18:35 There's a lot of systems involved in doing that.
18:37 There's a lot of fiber optics.
18:39 Our job is to keep those running.
18:42 And just like your car, your automobile,
18:44 sometime it wants to run,
18:46 sometimes it doesn't want to run.
18:48 And our job is to make it run.
18:50 Wow!
18:51 Yeah, and we keep you guys pretty busy in that department.
18:55 We stay very, very busy. Absolutely.
18:57 Yeah, my typical day is usually...
19:00 We have projects. Okay.
19:02 And we have a central project,
19:04 let's say,
19:05 I need to repair a device
19:08 or spectrum analyzer or stuff like that,
19:09 and I've been working on that couple of days,
19:11 that's my project for the time.
19:12 But we also have other things that happen,
19:14 we have emergencies.
19:15 Sometimes a channel goes off the air.
19:17 Sometimes someone's equipments breaks,
19:19 their computer breaks or something like that.
19:21 So my day revolved around my project.
19:25 We have, like I said,
19:27 emergencies that we have to tackle.
19:29 Also I'm working on the...
19:31 I'm the primary software engineer
19:34 for the mySDAtv.
19:35 Tell us about the mySDAtv box.
19:37 What is the mySDAtv box for those viewers
19:40 that don't know?
19:42 Okay. Moses Primo is the manager.
19:45 We had an engineer few years back
19:48 and he worked on the mySDAtv 1, it's the black box.
19:53 He ended up leaving, going to another ministry
19:55 and I decided...
19:57 I felt impressed to volunteer to step in
20:00 and develop the mySDA 2 which is the blue box.
20:06 So that involves a lot of coding,
20:07 a lot of work, a lot of maintenance.
20:10 But it's a volunteer effort, it's a work of the heart.
20:13 I think it's very important for 3ABN
20:15 to spread around the world.
20:17 I know that IP internet is the new medium,
20:20 the primary medium for sharing media content.
20:24 And I knew that this is what the Lord wanted me to do,
20:27 so I started on the box about two years ago.
20:30 And Moses Primo has been very happy
20:33 and impressed with the product.
20:35 And every time he says that I praise the Lord,
20:37 because I know people are being blessed by,
20:39 which is why I did it.
20:41 So basically the mySDAtv box is a streaming device,
20:44 in which people can access 3ABN
20:48 as well as some other ministries...
20:50 They're gonna access 3ABN, Dare to Dream, 3ABN Latino,
20:54 all of the 3ABN networks.
20:57 Right now, there's 25 channels.
20:59 Okay.
21:00 And there are 25 Adventist channels
21:03 from different ministries.
21:04 Nice, okay.
21:06 The big ministries are, you know, Amazing Facts,
21:09 Amazing Discoveries, Mission TV, Sum TV,
21:12 Stephen Bohr, a lot of content on there for any Christian.
21:17 And that's why I thought impressed to step in,
21:20 and to help Moses get this product to the people.
21:24 A lot of wholesome content.
21:26 How do you guys now, you know, of course,
21:29 we work in a ministry, so guys involved in everything,
21:32 but how do you incorporate God in the workplace?
21:37 Marilyn, we'll start with you.
21:39 Well, each day we start our day with morning worship,
21:44 that's important,
21:45 because you have to have a foundation, the start.
21:49 It can be stressful,
21:51 you can have a stressful day and to start your day in Jesus,
21:55 just builds for the rest of the day.
22:00 And then we have prayer.
22:02 So that's how we incorporate and we always try to strive
22:07 to be Christ like in our manner,
22:10 when we're communicating with the customers
22:13 and whoever we come in contact with.
22:16 Nice, nice.
22:18 What about you, Eric?
22:19 Yeah, ministry is a marriage.
22:21 It's a marriage between you and the ministry and Christ.
22:24 Once again it's that three way marriage.
22:28 You have to start every morning with prayer,
22:31 just like in a marriage with my wife, Marilyn.
22:33 You have to start the morning with prayer.
22:37 Ministry is a labor of love.
22:40 You're not expecting to get rewards,
22:42 financial gain, things like that.
22:46 And it's a relationship
22:48 and so every relationship prayer,
22:53 friendship, communication.
22:54 That's my motto, prayer, friendship and communication.
22:58 Nice. Nice. Yeah.
23:00 And how long have you been with 3ABN?
23:02 We've been with 3ABN, five years.
23:04 Five years? Five years.
23:06 Wow!
23:07 Time flies when you're having fun.
23:09 That's right.
23:10 It's the same,
23:12 I've been here for five years too.
23:17 Okay, so now I walk into your office,
23:20 and I see you coding, and then I see you working,
23:22 you have this workstation over here,
23:25 all of these things, so it seems like,
23:28 prayer really helps to get you through your day
23:30 from what I'm hearing from here
23:33 and I go to the call center
23:35 and I see all these orders getting ready to go out.
23:38 I hear the phones, phones ringing.
23:40 I see the warehouse and all of these things
23:44 like keeping up
23:47 with what you guys do here in this ministry,
23:52 it's amazing.
23:54 You guys are a blessing to this ministry,
23:57 and I'm glad
23:59 that both of you answered the two unique callings
24:03 that were placed on both of your lives.
24:05 Amen. Amen.
24:07 You know, and it's good to see that you're incorporating God
24:12 in the workplace because even in ministry,
24:14 you know, sometimes people will...
24:17 It's like you get so caught up in the act of doing
24:21 that you sometimes lose sight of that relationship.
24:24 You have to incorporate God when you're in the ministry.
24:28 And I'll give you a quick example.
24:30 I'm not a software programmer.
24:32 My background is electrical engineering.
24:35 When I was in the military, I did flight test.
24:39 No programming involved.
24:40 When I took on the mySDAtv 2 for example,
24:45 I didn't know how to program in the language
24:47 that the mySDAtv had to be written in.
24:50 I did a lot of praying.
24:52 And there's a number of times where the Lord stepped in
24:55 to help me continue forward.
24:57 One quick example, I was stuck on one problem,
25:01 and I couldn't move any further forward,
25:03 I was stuck on this problem for almost three weeks.
25:06 And I pray the Lord and I said,
25:08 "You know, Lord, this is for you.
25:10 I'm not getting paid for this particular thing.
25:12 I'm volunteering my effort.
25:14 You need to help me out."
25:16 It's one of those sincere prayers,
25:17 because when you work on something that long,
25:19 you get frustrated after a while.
25:21 The next day, a young man from Africa walks in,
25:24 his name is Joseph.
25:26 And he says, "Can you help me, I'm an engineer from..."
25:30 I think it was Angola.
25:32 He said, "Can you help me with lighting and showing me,
25:35 how to work the cameras,
25:36 I want to start
25:38 my own little ministry in Africa."
25:41 And he looks over at my computer, he says,
25:42 "Oh, you program in Java."
25:46 As soon as I heard that, I said,
25:47 "How did you know I'm programming in Java?"
25:49 He says, "Well, I've been a Java programmer
25:51 for the last nine years."
25:53 Wow!
25:54 Right after I prayed that night before.
25:57 So it took me 10 minutes to explain the problem to him,
26:01 it took him three minutes to fix it.
26:04 And I move forward.
26:05 Praise the Lord. Wow!
26:07 Okay, so you prayed, you met Joseph,
26:11 nice biblical name too by the way.
26:12 He walked in the door...
26:14 Walked in the door, he saw,
26:16 you know, the coding and you know,
26:18 I walked by your office,
26:19 and I joke with you all the time about the code
26:21 and all that stuff,
26:22 but he saw the code and then he said,
26:25 okay you're programming Java,
26:28 you explain the situation, took 10 minutes...
26:30 Took 10 minutes.
26:31 To explain it, but it took him three minutes to fix it.
26:33 It took him three minutes to fix it.
26:34 He said, you do this, this and that,
26:36 and I was on my way, right after I prayed.
26:38 Wow!
26:39 And then we helped him out
26:41 with the cameras and the lighting.
26:42 Wow!
26:43 That's why I had to pray my way through this,
26:45 and the ministry like that is a product of prayer.
26:49 We have to pray our way through the ministry.
26:51 Absolutely. We face challenges every day.
26:52 Absolutely.
26:54 And it's through prayer and the love of Christ
26:56 that we get to where we're going.
26:57 Yes, you know what?
26:59 This is actually the year of prayer
27:01 here at 3ABN and,
27:05 you know, we're gonna be doing a lot of praying
27:08 and all those things.
27:09 We want the gospel to go around the world
27:12 and that definitely takes prayer for sure.
27:16 And thank you for everything
27:18 that you're doing in this ministry
27:20 to make sure that things stay afloat by God's grace,
27:24 you know, with getting the signal out
27:27 and working on the streams,
27:29 the IP streams and all these things.
27:31 I don't even know everything,
27:33 I don't even think you covered every single thing that you do.
27:36 But we're grateful for both of you
27:39 and what you do for this ministry.
27:40 Thank you. Amen.
27:41 You're welcome. It's my pleasure.
27:43 I can't believe our time is, it's pretty much up.
27:46 You know, this interview went by so fast.
27:49 Well, we've reached the end of another program.
27:52 Ask God, what He has for your life?
27:55 How you can get involved in ministry?
27:58 Remember to incorporate Him in everything that you do.
28:01 Thanks for tuning in.
28:03 Join us next time and remember,
28:04 it just wouldn't be the same without you.


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