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00:01 Have you ever wondered how to live the abundant life?
00:03 Well, stay tuned to meet 00:05 two individuals who are teaching 00:06 people to do just that 00:07 on a global scale. 00:09 My name is Jason Bradley, 00:10 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:36 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report. 00:38 My guests today are Joy Kauffman, 00:40 Executive Director of FARM STEW International, 00:43 and Dr. Frederick Nyanzi, 00:45 Board Member of Farms to International. 00:47 Welcome to Urban Report. 00:49 Thank you. We are so glad to be here. 00:51 It's great to have you here. 00:53 This is your first time 00:55 on the Dare to Dream network on Urban Report. 00:59 So want to take the time 01:01 to just introduce you to our viewers 01:04 and tell us a little bit about your back ground, Joy? 01:06 Great. 01:08 My name is Joy Kauffman, 01:09 and I am a master guider 01:12 and a public health nutritionist 01:14 and a mom. 01:15 And it's really the mom in me 01:16 that motivates my work with FARM STEW 01:19 because I really want every mother to be able 01:23 to provide for her children, the very best 01:26 and I believe that's in the heart 01:28 of most every mother. 01:29 Yes. 01:30 And also I'm a very new converted 01:33 Seventh-day Adventist Church. 01:34 Real? How did that come about? 01:36 Well, it's a long story, 01:39 but in short it was a wonderful case 01:41 of friendship evangelism by my dear friend 01:43 and now our co-worker Cherry Olin and her family, 01:46 very blessed by their perseverance 01:48 in reaching me with the gospel. 01:50 But then I say that it was actually the Ugandans 01:53 that finally got me to join the church 01:56 and get baptized, 01:57 and that was just four short years ago actually, 02:00 and they are the inspiration for the launch of FARM STEW. 02:04 Praise the Lord. 02:05 And we have Dr. Fred, 02:07 you mind if I call you Dr. Fred? 02:09 Dr. Fred is fine. All right. 02:10 Dr. Fred, tell me a little bit about your background, 02:14 your upbringing? 02:15 Again, I was born and raised in Uganda. 02:20 When I reached the university level, 02:23 I came to US. 02:24 Okay. 02:26 To Loma Linda to take my education 02:28 and I took nutrition and biochemistry. 02:32 Now, after I finished my education at Loma Linda, 02:35 I joined Loma Linda Foods 02:37 to work there 02:39 as a nutritionist. 02:43 Now, 02:44 I saw how they take these 02:47 simple plant-based foods 02:50 and bring nutritious food 02:52 out of those products. 02:54 And I say, we can do that 02:56 because I'm thinking of the country 02:59 where I came from. 03:00 We have areas 03:02 where malnutrition runs rampant. 03:07 And we said, "We can do that." 03:09 But, of course, I didn't know 03:12 how to do it because, of course, I didn't have money. 03:15 But then, I was... 03:17 One time I was volunteering 03:18 in Adventist community center in St. Louis, 03:24 then someone who had attended one of the conferences, 03:28 I think it was held in Chicago 03:31 where Joy Kauffman was presenter, 03:35 and he came back and asked me, 03:36 "Do you know FARM STEW?" 03:38 And I said, "FARM STEW? 03:39 What is that?" 03:41 "Are they cooking stew or something like that?" 03:43 And he said, "No. 03:44 And it's in Uganda" I said, "In Uganda? 03:46 Never heard of it?" 03:47 Then I wanted to hear more about it 03:51 and I wanted to talk to her, 03:52 but I realized that she was gonna be 03:54 in the same conference where I would be. 03:56 So I said, "I would talk to her." 03:58 And she introduced me to FARM STEW 04:02 and I was hooked. 04:04 Wow. 04:05 So you caught the vision? 04:07 Exactly. 04:08 By the way what I have forgotten that 04:10 really I've been an Adventist for all my life. 04:14 I was born an Adventist 04:16 and so always been looking for 04:20 something where we can go and help our people 04:23 spiritually and physically. 04:25 So FARM STEW is where I felt that 04:28 it's doing something for my native country 04:33 about nutrition and well-being. 04:36 Yes, yes Praise God. 04:37 What is the mission of FARM STEW? 04:40 So our mission is to improve the health 04:43 and well-being of poor families and vulnerable people 04:46 by sharing the recipe of abundant life 04:49 throughout the world. 04:50 Wow. 04:51 So this recipe of abundant life, 04:53 you might be curious? 04:54 I am. 04:56 It's an eight letter health acronym. 04:58 You may have heard of other health messages 05:00 that are expressed with eight letters. 05:01 NEWSTART. Ours are special. 05:04 Ours, we try to reach the people 05:06 that maybe don't have the money to buy the vegetables 05:10 that they need to have 05:11 that healthy whole food plant-based diet. 05:13 So the letters are Farming, Attitude, Rest and Meals, 05:18 Sanitation, Temperance, Enterprise and Water. 05:22 We call those the eight ingredients 05:24 in the recipe for abundant life. 05:26 So some of these things you might hear 05:28 from other messages but for example rest. 05:32 We have a slightly different spin on it. 05:33 Okay. 05:35 We know, people need to sleep, they need to take the Sabbath, 05:37 but they also need to give the land rest 05:39 'cause that's one of the challenges 05:41 that many African farmers face 05:43 is very depleted soils that are not productive. 05:46 Okay. 05:48 So if we can help them understand 05:49 how to build up the soil health 05:51 and have more productive farming practices, 05:53 they can begin to profit 05:55 and be able to feed their families 05:56 with what they can grow. 05:57 Wow, that's incredible. 05:59 And so you go to... 06:02 You're in Uganda? Yes. 06:03 What are some other places where you operate? 06:07 Well, actually Fred has a picture of when he was there, 06:10 we were training together 06:12 with a whole group of trainers from 06:13 Uganda and South Sudan. 06:15 So you can see Fred in the front row there 06:17 in his South Sudan shirt 06:19 with the South Sudanese trainers 06:20 in the back. 06:22 Nice. 06:23 So the green is FARM STEW Uganda, 06:25 and then we are moving into Rwanda 06:28 as well in partnership 06:29 with the medical school that is opening there, 06:31 as Ted Wilson was there 06:33 launching that effort this past fall, 06:35 and we're really thrilled to be partnering with them. 06:37 Nice. 06:39 We're also in Zimbabwe, 06:40 partnered with a few orphanages there 06:42 that have captured the message 06:43 and are now raising their own food 06:45 for over 300 orphans in Harare, Zimbabwe. 06:49 Wow. 06:50 So there's a lot of exciting partnerships 06:52 that are in the works, 06:54 but our physical teams on the ground 06:56 are power house behind what we do, 06:58 our trainers. 07:00 Got you. 07:01 We actually have a video that kind of gives us 07:04 a little introduction into FARM STEW 07:06 and what you do. 07:08 Let's go to that video right now. 07:18 In Sub-Saharan Africa, one in three children 07:21 is severely malnourished. 07:24 People are suffering from diseases 07:26 that they can prevent 07:28 with simple habits and healthy food. 07:32 They don't know about sanitation. 07:36 Education is a necessity. 07:39 Kids have no hope of a better future. 07:52 But Jesus came to this world so we can have life 07:56 and have it more abundantly. 07:58 FARM STEW is a recipe for abundant life 08:03 that includes ingredients that prevent hunger, 08:05 disease and poverty. 08:07 Our mission is to improve the health 08:10 and well-being of poor families 08:12 and vulnerable people throughout the world 08:14 drawing on biblical wisdom and some science. 08:17 Our African Christian trainers equip families 08:20 by conducting hands-on classes, freely sharing practical skills 08:24 so people can help themselves. 08:27 Thanks to the FARM STEW training, 08:29 people learned to live abundantly 08:31 with fresh homegrown food, clean water, tidy homes, 08:35 savings clubs and strong community ties. 08:38 FARM STEW also supports girls to stay in school, 08:42 by giving them washable pads and confidence. 08:45 Your gifts equip desperately poor families 08:48 and vulnerable people so they can help themselves. 08:59 Will you give for abundant life today? 09:05 FARM STEW, a recipe for abundant life. 09:11 Wow. 09:13 That's a lot going on. That is a lot going on. 09:15 How do you make the determination where to go? 09:19 You know, when you look at Africa in general, 09:24 you see different areas, 09:26 different countries, different cities. 09:29 And sometimes may think 09:30 that the whole of Africa is like that. 09:33 But FARM STEW what it does, it will go to the areas 09:36 where poverty stricken areas 09:38 so that they can help 09:41 those communities improve 09:45 to get out of that poverty situation, 09:49 so they can be able to support themselves, 09:52 with the right diet 09:57 and good nutrition of course. 09:58 Yes. Yeah. 09:59 Yes. 10:01 And they say, there's a picture where we went and... 10:05 Where we're training these trainers, 10:08 those who are training their local people. 10:10 If we can bring that up. 10:12 Yeah. 10:13 In this exciting story about the South Sudan 10:15 what we're showing here. 10:16 We actually started in Uganda 10:18 and then we talked to the Ugandan Union, 10:20 they said, "We really need you in the refugee camps. 10:22 There's a million South Sudanese refugees 10:25 in Uganda that have fled the war-torn." 10:27 Wow. 10:29 Very difficult situation in South Sudan. 10:30 So we were in the refugee camps training, 10:32 and then the president of the church of South Sudan, 10:35 Pastor Clement Morah, 10:37 came to us and he said, "Come to South Sudan." 10:39 We're like "Whoa, we don't have the resources at this point." 10:43 He said, "Let's pray and let's work on it." 10:45 Yes, that's what we did. 10:46 And so actually in January 2019, 10:49 we launched a team in South Sudan 10:50 who you just saw. 10:51 Wow. 10:53 And it honestly is one of the most painful countries 10:57 just in terms of the poverty and the war 10:59 that has displaced so many people. 11:01 Yes. 11:02 So we go where God is leading, and where He opens the door. 11:05 And so what's your approach? 11:07 Okay, so you go into the countries 11:09 and then, what's your approach that you take 11:12 when you go into the countries 11:14 and you speak to the citizens? 11:18 Well, one of the things we try to focus on is what we call 11:21 'Asset based community development'. 11:23 So we're not just coming in with the problems, 11:26 you know the statistics, 11:27 you know, kids are malnourished, 11:29 people are dying. 11:30 That's depressing. Yeah. 11:32 Nobody wants be part of that. 11:34 So we try to come in 11:36 and build up the local community, 11:38 we hire locals, they speak the local language, 11:41 they know the local culture 11:42 and then the other thing is 11:44 they try to find model people in the community 11:47 that become farmers to volunteer. 11:49 Nice. 11:50 These are the people that we might have a cooking class 11:52 or we might have a gardening class, 11:54 hands-on, everything's very hands-on practical. 11:57 And teaching them the skills they need to thrive 11:59 right where they are. 12:01 And then we'll go back and see 12:02 who are the families that are truly, truly implementing. 12:05 And we do have a few stories to share of people 12:08 that are implementing this work at a very high level. 12:11 Yes. 12:12 Please share them. 12:14 Okay, great. 12:15 I'm gonna jump to the story of Mr. Wilson. 12:16 Okay. 12:18 We train this on tippy taps 12:20 which is a hand washing station system 12:23 that really helps people be able to wash their hands. 12:26 It's one of the most important... 12:28 The World Health Organization says it's the most 12:30 health preventing behavior that you can... 12:33 Not health preventing, disease preventing behavior 12:35 that you can have. 12:37 And so these tippy taps are life changing. 12:41 But Mr. Wilson found that his actually got stolen at night. 12:46 Oh, wow. 12:47 And he was frustrated. 12:49 But we had also taught about enterprise, 12:50 helping people to think in entrepreneurial ways 12:53 'cause there's not really jobs out, 12:54 especially in the more rural villages, 12:56 there's not very many jobs. 12:57 Yes. 12:59 So Mr. Wilson got creative. 13:00 He said, I could make a tippy tap on a stand 13:04 that could be taken in at night so it can't be stolen, 13:08 and then the model was such a great idea 13:10 that he started a whole business 13:12 making these tippy tap stands for his neighbors. 13:13 So he came up with, 13:15 poured the idea for a portable tippy tap? 13:17 Yes. Wow, that's incredible. 13:20 Yes. It's very cool actually. 13:22 Yes. 13:24 So now people have a place 13:25 where they can wash their hands. 13:28 What about portable water? 13:31 So water is a challenge in a lot of these communities 13:33 and that's something we as a board of directors, 13:36 and Dr. Nyanzi is on our board of directors, 13:39 and we really went through a process of saying, 13:42 "We've got to do more for these communities." 13:44 A number of the places are they... 13:47 Some of them like Kalungama village 13:49 where we're working with the women's group, 13:51 very powerful testimonies coming out of this. 13:53 If you go to YouTube and type in FARM STEW, 13:55 you can see these testimonies. 13:57 But we found out that they are walking 13:59 two miles for water. 14:01 Two miles for water? Yes. 14:03 And then they are carrying it back two miles? 14:05 Yeah. 14:07 And actually we're teaching farming. 14:08 So not only are they carrying it back for themselves, 14:10 but they have been carrying it back 14:12 to water these little seedlings. 14:13 How many of us would garden in that circumstance? 14:16 Yeah, I don't know if I would make it. 14:17 I don't think I would either. 14:19 Yes. 14:20 But, so we decided that 14:22 we really needed to do something better. 14:23 Again, our philosophy is local. 14:25 So we found actually a local business enterprise 14:27 that's a well drilling company. 14:31 They're called Freedom Drillers. 14:32 We're just kind of cool because 14:34 our theme for this year is freedom. 14:35 Wow. 14:36 And we wanna bring freedom, in our water campaign 14:38 we're calling freedom from disease and drudgery. 14:41 You can imagine the drudgery of carrying water that far. 14:43 Yes. 14:45 And often it's even young girls who are very vulnerable 14:47 when they are out there by themselves 14:49 just getting the water. 14:50 It's terrible situation. 14:51 So our plan is to fix or repair 14:55 or build the new at least 50 pumps this year. 14:58 Wow, it sounds like you got a big project going on, 15:02 a huge project. 15:04 Can you tell me any stories of maybe a life 15:07 that's been transformed 15:09 or lives that have been transformed 15:10 as a result of FARM STEW? 15:13 Yes. 15:15 When I had that opportunity to go back to Uganda 15:19 to really see what FARM STEW does, 15:22 I was able to go in a placed called a German 15:25 out in the northern part of Uganda, 15:27 and this is a mostly... 15:30 We have mostly refugees. 15:32 And in those refugee areas, they don't have enough space 15:36 to grow their own food. 15:39 They have little place where they can do gardening 15:42 but it's not enough. 15:43 So there's this leader here who used to be a teacher 15:47 and he decided to be involved with FARM STEW. 15:53 And what he introduced was 15:56 to start a community gardening 15:59 where all those different families 16:02 in that community can go 16:04 and have a place where they can grow food 16:07 to feed their families 16:08 and sometimes to sell the excess. 16:12 Wow. 16:13 Yes. Wow. 16:15 And so I remember, you know, I've had the opportunity 16:18 to sit down with you and talk to you guys, 16:22 and I remember you sharing something with me about 16:24 how the communities would come together 16:26 and they would pool their money together. 16:29 Can you talk on that a little bit? 16:32 Yes, I'll let Joy touch on that. 16:34 Sounds good. 16:35 We have what's called 'Community Savings Clubs', 16:38 and so a lot of the people in these poor, 16:42 you know, circumstances, 16:44 the money just that they have it 16:45 just passes through their hands. 16:47 But when we provide a context 16:49 or a club setting where everyone, 16:52 the community sets the rules and they come together 16:55 and they decide every week 16:56 we're gonna put in a certain amount of money 16:58 so in one community might be 50 cents a week, 17:01 another, one of our communities Kalungama village, 17:04 they were putting in a $1.75 a week 17:07 which is huge, really. 17:10 Dr. Fred was saying, 17:11 they often are making like $20 a month. 17:14 Wow. $20 a month. 17:16 Well, that was gonna be my next question 17:17 to break that down 17:18 as to why a $1.75 a week 17:23 is a huge deal? 17:25 So they're making $20 a month? 17:28 $20 a month and sometime those are the privilege. 17:32 In some areas, known to the whole country 17:35 but in the areas where they're poverty stricken, 17:38 they don't have enough money. 17:40 So to spare a $1.75, that's a lot. 17:44 Now each dollar, 17:45 if you want to know the equivalent of dollar, 17:49 its equivalent to 3,500 shillings. 17:54 That's what they use. 17:55 But you said, okay, so they have a lot of money, 17:58 I mean, 3,500, 18:01 how much does a gallon of milk cost? 18:04 Yes. 18:06 It will cost, 18:08 let's see... 18:12 $3. 18:13 Okay. 18:15 Which is more than 10,000 shillings. 18:20 Wow. 18:21 And remember, $3 18:23 when you are getting $20 a month. 18:25 Yes. 18:27 You can see what the problem they have in these areas. 18:31 Yes. 18:32 And you can see from that why there is just so many 18:34 severely malnourished children. 18:36 We try to go places where at least one in three 18:39 of the children is suffering, 18:42 what's called 'stunting' 18:43 which means it's a type of malnutrition 18:45 that is so severe, 18:47 it's gonna affect them for life. 18:49 Wow. 18:50 And we want to prevent stunting from happening. 18:52 Yes. 18:54 And as you can imagine, who can afford milk 18:55 in that circumstance? 18:57 So when we go 18:58 and we teach them to grow soy beans 19:00 and that they can make their own milk 19:02 in just a simple mortar and pestle like they love it. 19:06 They absolutely love it. 19:08 And I... Yes. 19:09 Every single video, I know Americans kind of have 19:10 different feelings about soy milk 19:12 but every video that they bring in 19:15 from the field that the trainers send in, 19:18 probably the first thing out of the people's mouth is 19:20 they taught us how to make milk. 19:22 Wow. 19:23 And actually in South Sudan, 19:25 lot of the war was actually fighting over cows. 19:28 So lot of the displaced people, the refugees, 19:31 part of their grief is they don't have cows 19:33 and they can't get milk. 19:35 And we had this Amon, 19:36 who he is talking about work in these refugee camps. 19:39 They actually, 19:42 they say that's bringing peace amongst these warring tribes 19:45 because normally, you know, after fight over milk 19:47 is they have what they called the green cow, 19:49 but then also they're coming together, 19:51 cooking together. 19:53 Some of these refugee camps, 19:54 they have 42 language groups. 19:56 Wow. 19:57 And our trainers are so amazing like lot of them actually, 20:01 these are full time employees of FARM STEW Uganda 20:04 and they know often five or six languages. 20:08 Wow, five or six languages? 20:11 They're so smart. 20:12 And they train, you know they choose people 20:15 from the different language groups 20:16 that speak maybe one of their languages 20:18 and then they teach them to train others. 20:20 So we've counted, we have actually hands-on 20:23 our trainers have trained 80,000 participants, 20:28 and we are so excited. 20:29 I know that number soon will be much, much higher. 20:33 But we can't even count the number of people 20:35 that those people that have been trained, 20:37 have gone and trained. 20:39 Yes, yes. 20:40 And you wanna switch, there's a picture 20:41 that we have of the greens that they're preparing greens. 20:44 So this is us showing just something that's so important. 20:47 We take for granted how important greens are, 20:50 although most Americans don't eat their greens 20:52 like they should. 20:54 Yes, that is true. 20:55 Actually African-American diet was the collard greens. 20:58 They lead the way in like consumption 21:00 of dark leafy greens. 21:01 And in fact we could learn a lot from that. 21:05 But the greens in this context, 21:07 they are so important for iron. 21:10 Over half of the children are severely anaemic, 21:12 lacking iron. 21:14 Yes. 21:15 So just teaching how to even grow greens 21:17 and also there's wild greens growing everywhere. 21:19 It's a tropical country. 21:20 Many of them are edible, people don't realize that. 21:22 They get so excited when they realized 21:24 they can actually make food. 21:26 Mustard, turnip greens are good too. 21:28 I do like collard greens, 21:29 I like mustard, turnip greens too. 21:31 There's so many awesome greens 21:33 and they all make your circulation flow, 21:36 your brain functions better 21:37 'cause you're being properly oxygenated, 21:39 and ultimately this is a spiritual message 21:41 you can hear from the Holy Spirit, 21:43 when your brain is functioning, your blood is rich. 21:45 Ellen White talks a lot about that, 21:47 actually having rich healthy blood. 21:49 And the Bible says, 21:50 "The life of the flesh is in the blood." 21:51 Yes. 21:53 So all our curricular is Bible based, 21:54 Spirit of Prophecy infused, 21:56 and that's why this health message, 21:58 it's the entering wedge to people's hearts. 22:00 Absolutely. 22:02 You know, within ministry with such a global impact 22:05 and all of the things that you're doing, 22:08 do you ever find yourself getting discouraged? 22:12 Well, I have to say we do have an enemy. 22:15 And our theme verse is John 10:10, 22:18 that the thief comes only to kill steal and destroy. 22:22 And yet Jesus comes that we might have life 22:24 and have it abundantly. 22:25 Amen. 22:27 And, you know, we have to all of us 22:28 claim that promise every day, 22:29 claim the power of the Holy Spirit every day. 22:31 I do not feel enough to lead this ministry 22:35 and that thought can enter my mind 22:37 if I allow it every day. 22:39 But it's not about me. 22:42 It's not about Dr. Fred, even though he's way qualified, 22:45 he's a PhD, a nutritionist all his years of experience. 22:48 But it's not about us, 22:50 it's about the Holy Spirit working through us 22:52 and, you know, trainers, our trainers, they inspire me. 22:55 I get out of bed, it's eight hours earlier 22:57 in East Africa than where I live. 22:59 And, so I often wake up with text messages 23:02 about what's going on over there 23:04 and one of our trainers is Betty, 23:06 I say she's my twin. 23:08 We are the same age, with the same heart, 23:11 the same savior and she always says, 23:13 "Joy, time is short. 23:15 Jesus is coming. We've got to get to work." 23:17 So there's no time for discouragement. 23:20 You told me about a specific time 23:22 a while back about 23:24 you were watching something and that your power went out, 23:28 touch on that story? 23:29 Oh, goodness. It was so cool. 23:31 It was when the ministry is quite young and honestly, 23:34 I was feeling overwhelmed, like who am I 23:36 to be leading a ministry in Africa really. 23:39 And just a self doubt and everything, 23:42 and I was watching the 3ABN show 23:45 about how these ministry started. 23:47 Of mending broken people, yes. Exactly. 23:50 And Danny Shelton, he was saying how this area, 23:54 you know, it's in the middle of nowhere. 23:56 How am I gonna carry the message to the world? 23:58 And I'm like four hours north of here 24:00 in the middle of nowhere, 24:01 tiny little town, thinking, "Oh, my goodness, 24:04 God is giving me this vision of FARM STEW 24:08 that could reach the world. 24:09 How am I gonna do this?" 24:11 So I'm watching this YouTube video, 24:14 feeling like at the time kind of discouraged 24:17 and the power went out in my house. 24:20 And I'm watching this video feeling very inspired to seeing 24:22 how this little mustard seed of a ministry 24:24 was now reaching the world. 24:26 I watched 3ABN in Zimbabwe by the way. 24:27 Wow. 24:29 I watched it in Uganda. It's going over the world. 24:30 Yes, yes. 24:31 And the power went out, 24:33 the Wi-Fi should've have gone out, 24:34 the video should've stopped, 24:36 it kept going for another 40 minutes 24:38 so I could watch the entire documentary. 24:40 Wow. 24:41 And I know that was God just saying, 24:42 "Joy, I have this, you know, 24:45 there are other Adventist ministries like 3ABN, 24:48 I am the wind under their wings 24:50 and I can do it for you and for firms too as well." 24:53 Yeah, He's showing and that's so beautiful 24:56 because He's grabbing a hold of you 24:58 and saying, "You're my daughter 25:01 and I want you to carry this out. 25:03 I've given this to you to fulfill." 25:05 Amen. 25:07 So and He's working through you, 25:09 like every time I come in contact with you, 25:13 whether that's in ASI or GYC 25:16 or whatever the convention is. 25:18 As soon as you start talking about FARM STEW, 25:20 it's like your whole face just lights up. 25:23 Well, I love it. 25:24 It's a dream come true because as a nutritionist, 25:27 and I mean Dr. Fred I think had the same feeling 25:29 which is why we are so bonded in this. 25:31 Yes. 25:32 Because as a nutritionist, you wanted to do something. 25:34 You know that there's hungry children, 25:36 you know that there's people 25:38 not reaching their full potential. 25:40 And you wanna do something so much 25:42 and yet as one person you can't. 25:44 Yes. 25:45 But take the continent of Africa alone. 25:47 Sub-Saharan Africa, 25:49 we have eight million Seventh-day Adventist members. 25:52 That's huge. 25:53 Think about the potentiality of scale. 25:55 If we took this message 25:57 and it can transform people's lives. 25:59 Even in the refugee camps, one of the guys with the garden 26:01 that he was speaking about, Amon, our trainer, 26:05 one of the guys he'd trained, he said that his garden 26:08 has become evangelistic garden. 26:09 That's awesome. 26:11 He had been trying to do Bible studies, 26:12 people were not interested, 26:13 now they come to him, "What's going on? 26:15 Your kids look healthy, your garden's beautiful, 26:17 what's going on?" 26:18 So it's not just a physical message, 26:20 although that's important, Jesus heal people. 26:23 The spiritual message is going out too. 26:24 Yes. 26:25 And so you guys are meeting the needs of the people. 26:28 Speaking of meeting the needs, 26:29 what does FARM STEW need as an organization 26:33 to continue to flourish? 26:35 Well, do you want to share, Dr. Fred? 26:38 You know, it's very difficult to go international 26:44 when you're self supporting. 26:47 What we need is people to help us 26:51 spread this good news to the people 26:53 who are hurting right now because they need to be taught, 26:58 they need to be trained. 27:00 We are using the local people to train them 27:04 because they know their culture, 27:06 they know what they need. 27:07 So it's easier for them to meet their needs. 27:10 What about monetary needs? 27:12 Yeah, exactly. 27:13 We really... It does cost money. 27:15 We hire people, we believe in paying people 27:17 a living wage to do this work. 27:19 And we want them to do it full time 27:20 because this is hard work. 27:22 So we really do need 27:24 your resources and your prayers. 27:25 Amen. 27:27 I wanna put up your address and how people can support you. 27:30 And why don't you read that for us really quick? 27:33 Sounds good. 27:35 So we're FARM STEW International, 27:36 we're PO Box 291, Princeton, Illinois 61356. 27:43 And you can find us online 27:44 and also donate online at FarmStew.org. 27:49 And you can also call 27:51 and make a donation at (434) 409-0866. 27:55 All right. 27:57 Thank you so much. 27:58 I can't believe our time has escaped us, 27:59 great to have you here. 28:01 Thank you. 28:02 And I'm so glad that you can join us. 28:04 Until next time, remember, 28:05 it just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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