Urban Report

The Health Journey

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript



Series Code: UBR

Program Code: UBR210031S

00:01 Are you on a quest to achieve
00:02 optimal physical and spiritual health?
00:04 Well, stay tuned to get some tips
00:06 and some encouragement
00:07 on your journey to wellness.
00:09 My name is Jason Bradley,
00:10 and you're watching Urban Report.
00:36 Hello and welcome to Urban Report.
00:38 My guest today is Rise Rafferty,
00:40 and she is a part of the 3ABN Health Ministries Department.
00:44 Welcome to Urban Report, Rise.
00:46 Thank you, Jason. Yes.
00:47 So happy to be here.
00:48 It's great to have you here.
00:50 You know, last time I've interviewed you
00:51 with Pastor Rafferty
00:53 and we've kind of made that introduction there.
00:55 But this time, we are going to talk all about health.
00:59 I'm flying solo. Yes.
01:01 But, hey, you love health. I do.
01:04 And you're passionate about it.
01:06 And it really shines forth.
01:07 So I just want to jump into your journey.
01:10 Tell us a little bit about your health journey?
01:14 My personal health journey grew up
01:16 in a healthy environment, a blue zone,
01:19 one of the blue zones in the world
01:21 and mine happened to be Loma Linda, California.
01:23 Now explain what a blue zone is for those that don't know?
01:26 Yeah, blue zone is where they have found
01:29 that a considerable population community of people
01:33 actually live to past 100 years of age,
01:35 they have low chronic disease
01:37 and you know, they look for what is it about them?
01:40 What is it about this community that has produced
01:44 such amazing results in terms of
01:46 you know, aged, healthy, etc.
01:49 And they found them
01:50 in different places in the world,
01:51 but Loma Linda, California was one of them.
01:53 And so being raised in that environment
01:57 and immersed with some of those qualities
01:59 of good health definitely were in my home.
02:02 So I was really blessed to have that experience
02:06 and just the atmosphere
02:07 that health was super important.
02:09 And it is.
02:11 I see health is so integral to happiness.
02:16 Did you ever have any challenges
02:17 along the way in your health journey?
02:19 Yeah, I did.
02:20 And some of them were intestinal and digestive.
02:23 Okay.
02:24 I've always been super starry eyed about food,
02:27 you know, just like love food, foodie, I enjoy it so much.
02:32 But sometimes it didn't always agree with me.
02:34 And trying to find some of the answers to that
02:37 probably led me on my path.
02:40 Got you.
02:41 And so that's how you overcame those obstacles.
02:44 How did you overcome those obstacles?
02:47 Yeah, I actually started learning about holistic health.
02:50 What it meant to be healthy, like whole person
02:53 and I just started implementing those things
02:56 that were important.
02:57 So we always think of just nutrition,
02:59 but it's not just nutrition, right?
03:01 There's a lot of other components
03:03 as I implemented them in my lifestyle,
03:06 they resulted in a healthier me.
03:08 Yes.
03:09 Now, what role did your faith play in your health journey?
03:14 That's a good question.
03:15 That was huge.
03:17 I love the fact that God says, "Beloved,
03:21 I wish above all things
03:22 that you would prosper and be in health,
03:23 even as your soul prospers."
03:25 So in other words,
03:26 He's really has my best interest at stake,
03:29 the whole me, right?
03:30 He wants me to be saved,
03:32 but He also wants me to have a happy, healthy,
03:35 you know, comfortable existence on this earth
03:36 as much as possible and that
03:38 He would have the answers.
03:39 And so when I started looking,
03:41 because there's so much information
03:42 out there in terms of
03:44 what it is that makes us healthy.
03:46 I turned to the word first.
03:47 And that really gave me a foundation by which I sifted
03:50 and, you know, saw everything else through.
03:53 Amen. Amen.
03:54 So if people want to boost their immune system,
03:58 if they want to achieve optimal health,
04:00 what should they do?
04:02 That's another really good question.
04:04 And I think that when people ask that question,
04:06 they're thinking, "Ah, give me the latest supplement,
04:10 pill, herb, you know, what can I do,
04:13 take, swallow that will make my immune system
04:16 really strong and powerful."
04:17 A quick fix. A quick fix.
04:19 Yeah. Right?
04:20 Yes.
04:21 But I don't really have a quick fix.
04:23 I mean, I could share with you, oh, take, I don't know,
04:24 vitamin C, Echinacea, you know, vitamin D,
04:27 all these things that are good for us.
04:29 But they're not going to do what,
04:33 again, a bigger picture, bigger approach is going to do.
04:36 They're not going to have the same results
04:38 that you could, if you looked a little bit deeper.
04:40 And that's kind of what I would love
04:42 to be able to do with you today
04:43 is look a little bit deeper
04:44 as to what is our immune system.
04:47 And it's not like
04:49 I am some immune system specialist.
04:52 But as a dietitian, I see the world
04:54 through the gut through the digestive tract,
04:57 and it's absolutely fascinating to me
04:59 that our digestive tract is inhabited
05:03 with trillions of microbes.
05:06 Trillions? Yes.
05:07 Wow. Yeah, trillions.
05:09 So we're talking virus, bacteria,
05:12 fungi and other microbes that inhabit us.
05:17 It's so interesting, Jason,
05:18 because there's actually so much more of them
05:22 than human DNA.
05:23 In other words, when I think of who Jason is,
05:26 you'd be like, "Yeah, I'm human, right?"
05:28 But really, the majority of what composes who you are,
05:32 if we were to count all the individual cells,
05:34 you're more microbe than human.
05:36 Wow!
05:38 Yeah, it's a wild thought. It is.
05:39 I'm basically a walking microbe.
05:41 You are a walking microbe and it's so interesting,
05:43 because we've been raised in this germ theory,
05:45 where we're like, oh, bacteria,
05:48 you know, stay away, virus, uh-uh, keep it.
05:51 And yet, we don't realize, but that's part of who I am.
05:54 Wow!
05:55 You know, so if we take that into consideration,
05:59 then our understanding of the,
06:01 how the immune system function can enlarge
06:03 because in reality, the immune system
06:05 doesn't function in an isolated manner,
06:08 where it does its thing
06:10 and then the rest of my body can do its thing.
06:13 It's actually intimately connected
06:15 with our hormone system,
06:18 we call it our endocrine system,
06:19 our nervous system,
06:20 but it's also really intimately connected
06:22 with our microbiome.
06:24 Wow. Now, what is the microbiome?
06:26 Yeah, so that's the term microbiome microbiota.
06:30 That's the term that's given for what I call the community.
06:34 And it's just a community of various different unique
06:38 individual strains,
06:40 species of microbes,
06:43 we mentioned bacteria, virus, fungi, etc.
06:46 That live on and within us,
06:49 they literally are stationed,
06:52 the majority of them are stationed on all of our,
06:54 what's called our mucosal linings.
06:57 And when you think of a mucosal lining
06:58 I need to do is open your mouth.
07:00 Got you. Okay.
07:02 And you see this,
07:03 oh, it's wet, kind of slippery, right?
07:05 All the way down.
07:06 So every entrance into our body,
07:08 our nose, our ears,
07:10 they're all lined with this mucosal tissue.
07:14 And that mucosal tissue is an excellent place to live
07:19 for all these microbes.
07:21 So these microbes live not only in my intestines,
07:25 but they live, for example, in my respiratory tract.
07:27 Wow.
07:29 We think of our lungs as sterile
07:31 or we think everything is,
07:32 there's nothing sterile about us, you know?
07:35 And so take an example of a virus.
07:41 Okay. We breathe it in, right?
07:43 So, we breathe in this virus
07:45 and it lands on the mucosal surface
07:47 of our lungs.
07:48 Okay. Okay.
07:50 So there it lands.
07:51 Well, it's not alone.
07:52 Because surrounding it, lining, living in this mucosal lining
07:57 are all these trillions of microbes.
08:01 So it lands there
08:03 and how does my immune system
08:06 know which one's friend and which one's foe?
08:09 Right?
08:10 Excellent question, how does it?
08:12 Yeah. So one's an invader, right?
08:14 The virus is the invader, but the other ones are there.
08:17 And they are living in this what we call it
08:19 a symbiotic relationship with us
08:21 where there it's like mutually beneficial.
08:23 They're actually benefiting us.
08:25 We couldn't survive without these microbes
08:28 that we that are composed of who we are,
08:32 who we are is composed of them.
08:33 It's kind of weird.
08:35 You know, we think of it as them and us,
08:36 but it's not, it's really we're all,
08:37 it's all just me.
08:39 Anyway, so this virus lands on the lungs
08:42 and the microbes that surround it
08:46 are actually the eyes and ears of the immune system.
08:50 So if you went to like some big concert.
08:54 Okay.
08:55 Where there was so many people,
08:57 just hundreds and hundreds of people, right?
08:58 They're all standing.
08:59 But one of them, you find out one of them
09:01 has a gun and is there to do harm.
09:03 And there's some security guards there.
09:06 But there's way more people than there is security guards.
09:08 How's the security guard going to find that one person
09:12 who is a terrorist?
09:14 You know, that's the question.
09:15 So they're looking through everyone,
09:17 but how are they going to find that?
09:18 Well, only if the people around that terrorist say
09:21 this guy's acting weird
09:23 and there's something bulging out of his pocket?
09:26 And he's, you know, that type of thing.
09:28 And then they've got walkie-talkies,
09:29 and they're like, "Yo, come over here
09:32 to this section of the concert face."
09:35 And so that's what they're doing.
09:36 So they're communicating and they're sending the signals
09:39 and then you know, the body can respond and fight.
09:43 The mucosal lining, though, does that,
09:45 is that an act of protection?
09:47 Does it act as protection, though?
09:48 Oh, absolutely.
09:50 And what helps produce that mucosal lining
09:52 is the bacteria themselves.
09:53 Okay.
09:54 Yeah, so that's kind of supposed to be like
09:56 a barrier of protection
09:57 that the bacteria produce
09:59 they, bacteria do so much for us.
10:02 So when they walkie-talkie, right?
10:04 That, hey, there's something going on.
10:07 Do you know they walkie-talkie to the control center,
10:09 the command center,
10:11 which is actually the gut microbiome.
10:14 So now in our gut, right?
10:16 We've got trillions of microbes there.
10:19 And these microbes here in my lungs,
10:22 they found communicate with the microbes in my gut.
10:24 Okay.
10:26 And it's the microbes in my gut
10:27 that in turn tell the immune system,
10:30 hey, we're, you know,
10:31 we're dispatching you to the lungs,
10:33 you need to go there right away.
10:35 There's an invader in this section,
10:37 take care of it, right?
10:39 And if that communication doesn't happen,
10:42 it's kind of fascinating.
10:43 They've done research where they found well,
10:45 if communication doesn't happen,
10:47 if you're, if the microbes in your lungs
10:49 don't communicate to the gut, right away,
10:52 then that virus is there.
10:54 And it's homekeeping, it's developing itself,
10:59 it's multiplying, it can really set up shop
11:01 so that by the time eventually the immune system is,
11:05 you know, alerted to what's going on.
11:08 They've got a stronghold, then it's really in there.
11:11 And the immune system has to really
11:13 put out the big guns, right?
11:14 Whereas if the microbiome
11:16 in my lungs is healthy
11:18 and doing what it's supposed to do,
11:19 communicates to the gut,
11:21 gut communicates to the immune system,
11:22 immune system takes it stuff there.
11:25 And meanwhile, this is so cool too.
11:27 Meanwhile, while all this is taking place
11:29 this communication,
11:31 the microbes in the gut are doing their part
11:33 to destroy this guy.
11:35 So these people who are around. Yeah.
11:37 You know, you've heard if a terrorist comes,
11:39 one of the best things to do
11:40 is some of these people who risk their own lives,
11:43 but they try to take him down
11:44 before he does a bunch of damage.
11:46 Yes.
11:47 And so that's what these microbes are doing.
11:48 Wow! They're trying.
11:50 Jump on. They do.
11:51 Yeah.
11:52 And they try to, they produce their own ammunition
11:56 against this invading virus
11:59 and they also compete for the property
12:02 and whatever nutrients that this guy's trying to...
12:04 To feed off.
12:06 Yes. To steal.
12:07 Yeah. Yes, yes.
12:09 So how do you enhance that level of communication?
12:13 Oh, that's such a good question.
12:16 I don't even know if I have like the answer.
12:19 I think it's so important for us just to be aware,
12:21 first of all, that when we have a healthy microbiome,
12:25 that is going to serve us and really stimulate
12:28 what's called a balanced immune response.
12:30 So we always think about having a strong,
12:33 I want a strong immune system, you know what I mean?
12:35 Yes.
12:36 But really, you know, when you feel miserable
12:38 when you're sick and you're like fever,
12:40 headache, coughing, you're in pain,
12:44 you're just miserable like, where's my immune system?
12:47 How come it's not fighting for me?
12:48 Yes.
12:50 Well, that is your immune system.
12:51 That is your immune system.
12:52 The virus could be doing its thing.
12:54 And you could be like,
12:55 you know, feeling like nothing's going on.
12:57 But it's your immune system that is launching the attack.
13:00 And that attack
13:02 is what's eliciting those symptoms.
13:03 Wow! See?
13:05 I see.
13:06 So yeah, so what you need though,
13:07 is for that, you want that to take place,
13:09 but you also want it to be balanced.
13:11 Because a lot of times, you know, we hear about
13:13 cytokine storms or all these things,
13:15 my immune system may be overreacting
13:18 or not in a balance.
13:20 There's different phases of immune functions.
13:22 So with that, if it, if it's overreacting,
13:25 is that like an autoimmune disease?
13:28 Or where does autoimmune
13:31 and how does an autoimmune disease
13:33 come into play with that?
13:34 Oh, that's kind of a different topic.
13:36 But yes, autoimmunity is when you're,
13:40 when you've lost the ability for to know
13:43 whether that was friend or foe.
13:45 Right?
13:46 Remember, we said, oh, it's the commensal bacteria,
13:50 it's the bacteria that are part of me,
13:53 that detect the virus and that alert.
13:56 But if they don't detect the virus,
13:58 then right things can go wrong.
14:01 So part of that detection is really important.
14:03 So when our immune system starts fighting against me
14:07 and we've lost that semblance of is this friend or foe,
14:10 then that's when autoimmunity comes in,
14:12 then my immune system is attacking my own cells.
14:15 Right?
14:16 But that's different than like, what we're talking about this,
14:19 these phases of immune function.
14:22 So what we want is for the immune system
14:24 to launch that hardcore attack initially,
14:27 but then to be taken to the next step,
14:30 where inflammation dies down
14:32 and it can just keep doing its thing.
14:34 And we developed recognition for this virus
14:36 so that I can fight it,
14:37 you know, more effectively next time.
14:40 But research has found that what communicates
14:45 and elicits that next phase of immune function is microbes.
14:50 It's the microbes again.
14:51 Wow. Yeah.
14:52 So microbes are where you want to take care of the microbes.
14:55 Absolutely. Yes.
14:57 In fact, they found that what helps take,
15:00 that there's certain immune cells
15:02 that really help take the immune function
15:04 to the next level, right?
15:06 From being, oh, I'm so miserable
15:08 and a lot of inflammation to things calming down.
15:11 So there's certain cells that do that.
15:13 And they found that those cells
15:15 if they don't get the walkie-talkie communication
15:18 from the microbes,
15:20 that it's like,
15:22 they'll just stand by and the virus is right there.
15:24 And there, they don't even know it's there.
15:27 They're not stimulated to respond.
15:28 Yes.
15:30 It's like they're turning a blind eye.
15:31 Turning a blind eye.
15:33 It'd be like TSA, if someone was going through with a gun
15:36 and they were watching it go and they were like,
15:38 is that a gun or a curling iron?
15:41 We don't know. We should let them through.
15:42 You know what I mean? Wow, yes.
15:43 So they lose some of their,
15:45 it's fascinating to realize that, no,
15:47 there is so much interdependence,
15:52 you know, when it comes to our body systems
15:54 and the need for a healthy microbiome.
15:57 So your question, your question was,
16:01 do you want to state it again?
16:02 We're about the autoimmune, we talked about the...
16:05 We talked about the healthier...
16:06 The healthier immune system, boosting the immune system.
16:09 So how do we do that? Yes.
16:11 Well, through the eyes of...
16:13 There's a lot of ways but through the lens
16:14 of what we just talked about right now,
16:16 you know, we think about the microbiome
16:19 and what makes for a healthy microbiome.
16:22 And that microbiome, again,
16:23 is just the community of microbes,
16:25 all the vast complexity and diversity of them
16:30 throughout my whole body.
16:32 Because in every part of my body,
16:33 they do their part in communicating
16:35 with the immune system
16:36 and making for a balanced,
16:38 healthy immune function.
16:39 So then the attention and the focus goes to,
16:42 well, yeah, how do I have a healthy microbiome?
16:44 Okay.
16:46 So then we think, a lot of different things,
16:50 that's where it really comes to food in a lot of ways
16:52 to be honest with you.
16:53 This is where I'm starting to get excited
16:55 as we transition into the food section.
16:57 Yeah, good.
16:58 You're a foodie too. I love it.
17:00 You know, there's other things that are really important,
17:01 for example, people who live in tune with nature.
17:06 There's microbes in the soil, there's microbes on animals
17:10 and farms and in pond water, lake water.
17:14 And when we engage with all of that,
17:16 you know, summertime swimming in the lake
17:18 or farming, gardening,
17:21 we are being booted up.
17:23 Wow!
17:25 There's a sense in which
17:26 I'm my own microbiome is being enriched.
17:30 When I'm interacting with other people,
17:33 our microbiomes are somehow communicating
17:36 and intersecting.
17:37 And I'm benefited, hopefully,
17:39 by that, in a healthy situation, right?
17:42 I mean, it can be, it can work to the negative as well
17:44 when we get sick,
17:45 but all these things are important as well.
17:47 But when it comes to food, when we want,
17:50 when we think about this microbiome,
17:52 I like to liken it to like the Amazon forest,
17:57 its own ecosystem that thrives in diversity.
18:02 And we as humans go to the Amazon forest
18:05 and we have no idea how it all functions,
18:07 so harmoniously and beautifully.
18:09 And everything's mutually benefiting the other,
18:12 you know, type of thing
18:13 and it's just existed there for hundreds of years.
18:15 And it's been so healthy until we go in there.
18:19 And we're like, oh, that beetles annoying
18:21 or you know, whatever.
18:23 And we kill the beetle.
18:24 And we don't realize all what we just did.
18:27 The chain reaction. The chain reaction, right?
18:29 So when we think about that, in relation to our ecosystem,
18:34 it's just as crucial that we support the diversity.
18:38 And that diversity is supported when we consume diverse foods.
18:44 Yes.
18:45 And the foods that the nutrients that really,
18:48 there's a lot of nutrients that can benefit
18:50 the microbiome,
18:52 you know, the diversity, but it's mostly coming from,
18:56 well, from the plant kingdom.
18:57 Okay.
18:58 So there's different plant chemicals
19:00 that are super important.
19:01 When I use that word chemicals, I just mean compounds,
19:03 you know, that are in the plant that are, that we,
19:06 that are beyond vitamins and minerals,
19:08 but they actually can feed the good guys in the gut.
19:13 And then fiber, and fiber is so huge
19:15 and we consume so little in America.
19:18 That's actually one of the first things
19:19 that I will assess when I see patients,
19:23 you know, what's their fiber intake?
19:24 Because that gives me a lot of information
19:26 as to are we feeding them?
19:28 Yes. You know, I mean type of thing.
19:30 And fiber is a term but again,
19:32 there's so many different kinds of fiber
19:34 and we don't have to worry about it
19:35 if we're consuming a diverse kinds of plant-based foods.
19:40 So in other words, like if, let's say
19:42 we're consuming maybe red peppers,
19:45 red bell peppers and green bell peppers
19:47 and yellow bell peppers
19:49 and maybe some spinach or something, is that,
19:52 is it the different colors of the food
19:54 to when you were talking about this diversity of food,
19:58 like the different colors?
20:00 Yeah, different colors and different categories.
20:04 So when people say I don't eat grains
20:06 or I don't eat beans,
20:08 they're wiping out a whole category.
20:10 And within that category,
20:11 then there's all the diversity, right?
20:13 There's different grains,
20:15 there's different kinds of legumes
20:16 and you're like, oh, man, you're missing out
20:18 on how God intended to feed this diversity inside of us,
20:24 you know, with all those different unique ingredients
20:28 that are in these foods.
20:30 Yes, I got to get my life together,
20:31 because I don't like some of the stuff.
20:33 That I just mentioned.
20:35 I'm not a huge bean fan.
20:37 But I do eat some beans and stuff like that, too.
20:40 So, yeah, well, I'll have to work on it.
20:42 I'll have to work on that.
20:44 Right, and there's so many different ways
20:45 of incorporating those kinds of foods,
20:47 you know, maybe hiding them type of thing,
20:49 maybe that'll work.
20:50 But I think nature is so cool,
20:52 because there is so much variety.
20:53 So hopefully we find,
20:55 you know, a few things from each category that we can.
20:57 For sure.
20:58 And I do think it's important to realize sometimes
21:00 I'm not just eating for this.
21:02 Yes. Right?
21:03 I'm also eating for them. Yes.
21:05 And when I do that, when I, it's that other centered
21:07 or me centered, but in a good way.
21:10 Anyway, I think that can really promote health.
21:12 Yeah, it's like you're eating to live.
21:15 You don't live to eat.
21:17 A little bit of both.
21:18 Yeah.
21:19 I've got a transition from the living to eat
21:22 to the eating to live part.
21:24 I'm somewhere in there. It's a journey.
21:26 Yeah, totally. You take it step by step.
21:28 Absolutely.
21:29 So how do we stimulate
21:31 or can we stimulate the production of
21:34 is it the microbes?
21:36 Can we stimulate production of those?
21:38 Yeah.
21:40 So it's, you know, one of the other things
21:42 that I think I'm going to answer that question
21:44 that I think we need to take into consideration
21:46 is what stunts them or can destroy them?
21:48 That's good.
21:50 And fascinating that we inherit our microbiome from our mother.
21:54 Really?
21:56 As we're born through the vaginal canal
21:57 that's how we're initially went in mother's womb,
22:00 that's how we're inoculated right with that.
22:02 And then the first three years of our life huge setting up,
22:06 you know, what my microbiome is?
22:08 And what can really impede a healthy microbiome
22:12 or harm is a lot of the medications
22:15 and antibiotics that sometimes we take,
22:18 not when we absolutely have to.
22:20 Got you.
22:21 They're there for a reason,
22:22 you know, they're there to help us
22:24 get over a hurdle or save lives, etc.
22:27 But our overmedication of ourselves,
22:30 especially when we're on these medications for decades
22:32 and we know that they affect
22:34 somehow our digestive tract.
22:36 Those things affect our microbiome
22:38 and then we can pass that on to future generations.
22:41 Wow!
22:43 So there's things like that,
22:44 that I think all we got to take those into consideration.
22:47 If I'm trying to eat a healthy diet,
22:49 but I'm still taking these things
22:51 that are harming the microbiome,
22:53 because these antibiotics destroy bacteria, right?
22:57 Even my own they can, they can hurt.
22:59 And I think it's really important
23:00 after people do take antibiotics
23:02 that we try to,
23:04 you know, resupport the healthy growth and...
23:08 Like taking a probiotic
23:09 or something like that out there?
23:11 I think probiotics have a place.
23:12 Probiotics, though, are bacteria,
23:14 you're swallowing bacteria.
23:16 Yeah, that's pretty, that sounds pretty gross.
23:18 Doesn't that sound wild?
23:19 Yes.
23:20 Except when you realize that remember,
23:22 you're mostly bacteria.
23:23 That's true.
23:25 So probiotics are great,
23:28 except that you go to a store and you're like, oh,
23:30 there's all these bottles of probiotics,
23:32 which one do I take.
23:34 And there's something called strain specificity,
23:36 which means that there,
23:38 you want to find a specific strain hopefully,
23:42 that has been studied and found to be beneficial
23:44 for the concern that you have.
23:45 Got you.
23:47 And thankfully,
23:48 there has started that kind of research.
23:51 And that's where it's helpful to find someone
23:53 who has a little bit more knowledge
23:56 on that topic.
23:57 And or can go to database
23:59 and find out the information and say,
24:01 "Oh, this one has been found to be really beneficial
24:03 for people who have similar symptoms to you,"
24:05 that kind of thing that can be really good.
24:07 So I do believe there's a place for probiotics,
24:10 ancient I mean, you know, you look at traditional foods
24:13 and how it's been, how they've been preserved.
24:16 Yes.
24:17 And there's usually bacteria yogurts, kimchi,
24:21 what's the sauerkraut?
24:22 You know, all of those
24:23 that you're taking in probiotics as well.
24:25 But then there's also prebiotics.
24:27 And prebiotics is when you're intentionally
24:30 feeding them.
24:31 Okay.
24:33 So that can be done through a supplement
24:35 or that can be looked at as foods,
24:38 you know, all these foods that have prebiotics in them,
24:41 nutrients that have been found to significantly increase
24:46 beneficial bacteria in my gut.
24:48 And they can measure that
24:50 because these bacteria produce byproducts.
24:52 And this is one of the ways they impact our health so much
24:55 is because the bacteria live there,
24:57 but they ferment whatever comes down,
25:00 you know, leftovers,
25:01 but then they give off byproducts.
25:03 And some of those byproducts are gas, right?
25:05 We know that.
25:06 But they also produce molecules.
25:07 And these molecules are affect the environment.
25:11 So the health of the gut itself,
25:13 but they're also absorbed into our body.
25:15 And that's how they can have such system wide
25:18 influence and impact.
25:19 Got you, yes.
25:21 So we can measure some of those byproducts.
25:24 And now, we're missing some key species here.
25:28 And if we take this prebiotic,
25:30 we noticed some of those byproducts
25:31 increasing and health being restored.
25:34 So those are all different ways.
25:36 I hope I answered your question, at least.
25:38 Yeah, I think you did.
25:40 I think what's so crucial is that
25:43 we eat the right things.
25:44 That's what I'm getting from all of this is that
25:46 we need to be mindful of our health,
25:48 because so much takes place in the gut.
25:51 Yep. Correct?
25:52 Yes.
25:53 And so making sure that we eat a variety of the right things,
25:57 not just a variety of foods,
25:59 but a variety of the right types of foods
26:02 makes all the difference.
26:03 It does.
26:05 And you look at the standard American diet
26:07 and the standard American way of eating,
26:10 we're really limited in terms of diversity.
26:12 We eat a lot of white flour and meat and dairy products.
26:17 And we'll put those together
26:18 in a variety of different ways.
26:20 But it's still those kind of ingredients,
26:23 which are which don't have fiber in them
26:25 and they're not supporting a healthy microbiome.
26:27 So what you just said is super key
26:29 that we look at not just what not to eat,
26:32 but am I eating enough of the good kinds of things?
26:35 I think that's should be more of our emphasis.
26:36 Yeah.
26:38 It's amazing to me how God created us.
26:40 Yes.
26:41 I mean, there's so many moving parts that
26:43 I can't even wrap my mind around
26:45 that I'm still trying to process everything
26:47 that you just gave me just now.
26:49 I am processing right now as we speak,
26:52 but I can't believe our time is just about up.
26:55 But I want you to speak to that individual at home
26:57 that's on that health journey.
26:59 Just look in this camera
27:00 and just offer them a word of encouragement.
27:04 Yeah, if you're on your own journey
27:05 for experiencing better health,
27:08 I think there's nothing quite like finding someone else
27:10 to encourage you on that pathway,
27:12 whether that's a health provider
27:13 or a friend, someone who can support you
27:17 and helping you make the changes.
27:19 I see a lot of people who are trying to make
27:22 and implement healthier lifestyle choices,
27:25 but it's rough going
27:26 when you have to do it by yourself.
27:27 So finding a partner, finding someone
27:29 who can share the journey with you.
27:31 I think that would be one of the first things
27:33 that I would encourage people to do.
27:34 Absolutely.
27:35 That's so important is having that accountability partner,
27:38 somebody to encourage you along the way.
27:40 Yeah. Very well said.
27:41 Thank you so much for the insight
27:43 that you've provided today.
27:44 We're going to have to do this again.
27:45 Again.
27:47 Maybe we'll talk about exercise
27:49 or something like that and add on to it.
27:50 Thank you, Rise.
27:52 And we want to thank you for joining us.
27:53 Stay on that health journey. Until next time, God bless you.


Revised 2022-01-20