Ultimate Prescription

Learning about Medications

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Nick Evenson (Host), Dr. James Marcum

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Series Code: UP

Program Code: UP000072A


00:16 Are you tired of prescription medications?
00:19 On today's program, we're going to talk about
00:21 an approach that just might help you
00:22 get rid of those medications.
00:24 I'm Dr. James Marcum.
00:26 Are you interested in discovering the reason why?
00:29 Do you want solutions to your healthcare problem?
00:32 Are you tired of taking medications?
00:35 Well, you're about to be given "The Ultimate Prescription"
00:41 Hi, I'm Nick Evenson...
00:42 Thank you for joining us for today's program.
00:44 Why are we do dependent on medications?
00:46 And, is it possible to get off of them?
00:49 Dr. Marcum, thank you for joining us.
00:51 What do you think about this?
00:53 Well, you know Nick, I've thought a lot about this.
00:57 In fact, a couple of years ago, I wrote a book,
00:59 "Medicines That Kill"
01:01 Because in my research, I realized that medications
01:04 were the leading cause of death in America. Really?
01:07 And if you think about the problem,
01:09 if you look at the evidence...
01:11 You know, every year more heart attacks, more cancer,
01:15 more stroke, more diabetes, more sleeping problems,
01:18 more chronic pain. Right
01:21 Where does it end? Yeah
01:23 And if you look at 4 billion prescription medications,
01:26 you can say, "Wow, are we really fixing the problem?"
01:30 And a lot of people would like to come off their
01:33 medications if we gave them some other alternatives. Right
01:38 But as a medical profession, we treat symptoms
01:41 and not causes - and this is just not sustainable. Right
01:46 So we have to find out the cause of the problem,
01:50 and treat the causes and try to use as many natural remedies
01:54 or getting back to God's way to treat these things,
01:57 so we don't have to use medications
01:59 that sometimes cause more problems.
02:02 If you think about, Nick, if you have a problem,
02:04 and you can change the entire chemistry of the body,
02:08 that makes a lot more sense to me to change one
02:10 chemical pathway that can mess up
02:12 a lot of other chemical pathways. Sure
02:14 The body is just very, very complicated,
02:17 and with medications, there's not a medication
02:20 that exists that doesn't have risk. Right
02:23 Now I'm a cardiologist and I do use medications,
02:27 but I always talk to my patients...
02:28 "Here is the risk, here are the benefits,"
02:31 and we monitor very closely for side effects.
02:34 And even if you're perfect with your medications,
02:37 there are certain medications that can cause
02:39 anaphylactic reactions - we see that a lot with antibiotics.
02:43 Certain medicines interact with other medications.
02:47 We know about pain medications, how they become very addictive.
02:51 Blood pressure medicines can make your blood pressure
02:53 go too low. Right
02:55 Diabetic medicines can make your blood sugar go too low.
02:58 All of those can have bad combinations.
03:01 If you take too much of anxiety medicines,
03:03 that can cause bad things to happen. Yeah
03:04 So medications are not without risk.
03:08 So I think it's very worthwhile that we talk about this,
03:11 and answer questions about specific instances where people
03:15 might be able to help themselves.
03:16 Now the doctors aren't really trained to do this, Nick.
03:19 You know, we went into medical school. Right
03:23 What do they teach us about?
03:24 Medications!
03:26 They don't necessarily teach us in how to treat in other ways.
03:29 And doctors are very good at treating symptoms;
03:32 they're very good at getting people over the humps.
03:34 But I think we have more work to do in understanding
03:37 what causes disease, talking and convincing people
03:40 that there are other alternatives...
03:42 You know, loving people, not judging them,
03:45 and moving them one step at a time towards health.
03:48 We clearly need to move in some other directions
03:50 because what we're doing, like you said,
03:51 it's just not working.
03:53 No, in the United States right now,
03:54 17% of the gross national product now
03:58 is spent on healthcare. Right
04:00 You know, wouldn't it be better to spend it on something else?
04:03 You know, anything else... And, I think that this is
04:06 the discussion, but it's not going to come from the system.
04:09 It's going to come from one person at a time,
04:11 making changes - learning to get back to the way
04:15 they were designed, learning to stay away
04:17 from these chronic stressors which turns on our diseases,
04:21 which causes to need these chronic medications...
04:23 And I think this is something that we need to talk about,
04:27 and I want to give people today a little bit of a strategy,
04:30 at least a way to approach the doctor, a way to think about it,
04:34 if there is a medication that you can possibly be off of.
04:37 Now I'm not saying you can, but I have lots of patients
04:40 that - for instance, they start exercising and eating right,
04:43 then they don't need their medicine
04:44 for high blood pressure. Sure
04:46 You know, they lose a lot of weight, get rid of
04:48 refined sugars, eat healthy...
04:50 They don't need their diabetic medicines.
04:52 Get rid of the stimulants, turn the TV off at night,
04:55 they start sleeping better, they don't need
04:57 their sleeping pill. Right
04:58 Maybe not have so much caffeine and protein,
05:02 and eating big at night - they don't need their antacid pills.
05:05 Maybe do some exercising, eat some greens,
05:09 maybe they don't need their calcium pills. Right
05:13 But there's no real incentive to do that
05:15 because if we did that, the pharmaceutical industry
05:18 would take a hit. Yeah, right
05:19 So a lot of what we do in the
05:22 medicine society is financial and politics-driven, Nick,
05:25 and I just don't like that, but someone has got to
05:29 step out and at Heartwise, we try to get people to
05:33 think about a balanced approach,
05:35 you know - the place for modern medicine,
05:37 and there is a place - the place for lifestyle changes.
05:40 But what we do different than other ministries, I think, is
05:43 from a medical standpoint is... we try to first focus on that
05:47 relationship with the Heavenly Father. Right
05:50 Because that takes us to the place we need to go,
05:52 and even if we're on the line of health and we just go to
05:55 A to B, to B to C, C to D and we go real slow,
05:58 we know that our Heavenly Father is going to make up for
06:01 us and heal in His time. Yeah
06:03 Now we're hoping He will heal right away.
06:06 You know these simple lifestyle changes are often overlooked
06:09 because people just want to write a prescription
06:11 and take a pill, but they are really powerful
06:13 when implemented and we don't always have
06:15 the willpower to do it on our own.
06:17 Right, we don't and that's why we need
06:19 help from others, encouraging, and I found out that if
06:21 people will just take one-step-at-a-time,
06:24 and then they say, "Yeah, I do feel better."
06:26 "You know, I'm drinking my water, I'm getting my rest,
06:29 I'm eating my greens,
06:30 I'm not eating as much fatty foods,
06:32 I do feel better, yes it can be done.
06:34 God is working in my life." That's right
06:37 And that's what I like about, getting at the cause
06:39 of problems - we can affect a whole generation of people.
06:43 And when people start doing this, they actually feel
06:46 the power of God transforming them.
06:48 And, it's so easy to get sort of sucked into the
06:52 modern world that we live in,
06:54 the technology and what everyone says...
06:56 You know, I have patients that come to me... "Well I read this
06:58 this on the internet, it must be true;
07:00 I saw this on the TV, so give me this medicine."
07:03 Well, have you ever looked at the TV ads, Nick? Yeah, sure
07:07 Well, we can have this and this and this,
07:08 but it can do this, this, this, this, this, and this...
07:10 all of them are bad. Yeah
07:12 One benefit - at a lot of risks!
07:15 Let me tell a story real quick before I know we're going to
07:17 talk about our first aid kit in a minute,
07:19 but I had a patient not too long ago
07:22 that came and he was impotent.
07:25 He was 35 years old - impotent, and he says,
07:29 "Can I have this medication for impotence?"
07:31 I go - "Do we really want to have that?"
07:34 "And I know I could give you that medicine,
07:36 and I could write a prescription
07:38 for you for the rest of your life or we could try
07:40 to get at the cause."
07:42 So I said, "Well some of the causes
07:43 of this impotence is maybe the food."
07:46 We know that fat paralyzes
07:47 arteries so they can't get bigger. Right
07:49 We know that stress increases the chance of becoming impotent.
07:52 I said, "For 10 days, 10 days, I want you to pray
07:55 that God will help you to eat a perfect diet,"
07:59 so we talked about a perfect diet.
08:00 Get rid of all the fatty, all the fast foods.
08:03 He did that for 10 days and he came back in 10 days
08:06 and he could raise a flagpole, he was a happy camper. Sure
08:09 No, but it just proves we can do anything from 10 days
08:12 when we let the Lord work with us on these things,
08:14 we can see all sorts great things happen.
08:17 That's why I think health starts in that relationship
08:20 that we have with our Creator.
08:22 Because when we're doing things because God is working with us,
08:24 and we love Him, we do it for the right reasons.
08:26 We don't do it for selfish reasons. Yeah
08:28 And, we let Him move us one-step-at-a-time
08:31 and that's when we see the power
08:33 that God has in healing in our lives.
08:35 Doctors treat symptoms. God heals!
08:37 And that's so neat, Nick, and I like to talk about it.
08:41 Now our first aid kit.
08:42 That's right - we definitely know that there is a place
08:44 for medications and one of the places is when we have
08:47 emergencies - so we carry some
08:49 medications in our first aid kit.
08:51 What are we going to talk about today?
08:52 Well we've been working on our first aid kit in this series
08:55 of programs because we want everyone to have a
08:57 first aid kit that's well-stocked. Right
08:59 If they have an emergency, let's get them over the hump.
09:02 Well one of the things I think is very useful
09:04 for a first aid kit is medications to stop diarrhea.
09:09 Let's say you're somewhere and get some bad water.
09:13 Let's say you're on a mission trip in Africa,
09:15 and got some bad water. Yeah
09:16 Let's say you go to a restaurant,
09:18 and get some bad things that cause diarrhea.
09:20 When you have diarrhea, you can lose your electrolytes
09:23 and fluid very quickly. That's right
09:25 You lose your fluid, you could lose your blood pressure,
09:28 you'll lose your potassium and magnesium,
09:29 your heart could do funny rhythms,
09:31 sometimes dangerous rhythms.
09:33 That's not a good thing to lose a lot of your volume.
09:36 And if you think, "Well what do we need for good health?"
09:38 Well, we need fluids, we need to breathe,
09:42 we need to rest... those are the basics.
09:44 And I found out in health, we don't do the basics well.
09:47 So in first aid, if you're losing a lot of fluid
09:51 from these and you need to slow it down for a while,
09:53 this is a medicine called, "Imodium" that helps.
09:56 This is over-the-counter and it helps slow down the bowels
09:59 so you don't move as much of your volume.
10:05 You know, don't lose as many electrolytes...
10:07 this is very helpful.
10:08 Another thing that's very helpful for a first aid kit
10:11 that you might want to is this device here...
10:15 This is basically a pill that sterilizers bad water. Okay
10:20 Okay, so you can go anywhere, if you wanted to drink
10:23 out of the mud puddle and put this chemical in,
10:27 this would help make that drinkable. Right
10:30 Water is so essential to our bodies and a lot of people
10:34 don't realize, right now, that up to 70% of Americans are
10:39 dehydrated to some degree. Yeah
10:41 Dehydration is not a good thing!
10:44 When you're chronically dehydrated,
10:46 it turns on the stress chemistry,
10:48 raises the chance of a lot of bad health things.
10:50 So just by drinking your water, so if you were out somewhere
10:53 and couldn't get to water for a long period of time,
10:56 then this would help at least the water that you could get to
10:59 whether that be in a mud puddle or in a swamp,
11:04 you could sterilize that water and drink that.
11:07 And you would probably want to make sure that there's not
11:08 big particles in the water... Yes, oh yeah!
11:10 Maybe strain it first before using this medicine. Absolutely!
11:13 If you have the ability to strain it,
11:15 you might want to do that, but remember,
11:17 these products are just first aid in an emergency situation.
11:21 It hopefully will just get you by until you can
11:24 find some help.
11:25 Stay with us, we're going to be right
11:26 back after the break where Dr. Marcum
11:28 answers your questions on medications.


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