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Participants: Nick Evenson (Host), Dr. James Marcum

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Program Code: UP000074B


00:01 Welcome back - on today's program we are discussing
00:02 the gastrointestinal system, and, Dr. Marcum,
00:05 I think there's kind of an overarching principle
00:07 that you might apply to this discussion, is that right?
00:09 Yeah, and hopefully a couple of points that I want to
00:12 point out before we answer questions.
00:15 I think the questions are really going to help us know
00:17 and learn a lot about the GI system and things we can do
00:20 to improve it, but a couple of principles that are:
00:22 1. Don't put bad things in it.
00:25 2. Let it get enough rest, the system,
00:29 let it get enough rest, don't use it all the time.
00:31 3. Give it the basic things it needs to work well.
00:35 And the basic things that the GI system needs to work well
00:38 are water and fiber. Okay
00:42 Water and fiber - very important for the GI system.
00:45 Water, fiber, rest - don't put bad things in,
00:48 that is a great place to start.
00:50 Now, why is the water and fiber so helpful for the GI system?
00:54 Water helps things move through the system well.
00:57 It keeps it lubricated.
00:59 Every cell in the body needs water.
01:00 So the GI system to do its job well, needs water.
01:04 Okay...What about the fiber?
01:06 The fiber helps motility, it helps things move through
01:09 so things don't stay in it for long periods of time.
01:11 You keep the GI system moving.
01:14 When things are static, when things in the GI system
01:17 don't move, you have a greater chance to absorb
01:19 toxins and byproducts of this ecosystem
01:24 that we are going to talk about. Right
01:25 And really, the bowel has its own ecosystem within it.
01:28 It's almost like a world within a world,
01:31 and that's very important.
01:32 We're going to learn a little bit about that
01:33 when we answer a question about probiotics.
01:36 All right, well let's get right to the questions...
01:37 Our first viewer asks: "What is Barrett's esophagus?"
01:41 Barrett's esophagus specifically has to do with this middle
01:46 part called the "esophagus," and the esophagus really
01:49 just transports food from the
01:51 mouth that we start the digestion in,
01:53 and moves it all the way to the stomach.
01:55 There's a valve at the lower part of the esophagus
01:58 that keeps the acid in the stomach. Okay
02:02 But when the stomach is overburdened,
02:04 makes too much acid - what would make it too much acid?
02:07 Eating too much, too much protein.
02:10 There are certain metabolic conditions that cause
02:13 lots of acid to be done.
02:14 Bacteria can cause acid, but if the body makes
02:17 too much acid, you eat late at night and you lay down,
02:20 some people carry extra weight or have hiatal hernias, then the
02:24 acid can slip up this bowel and get into the esophagus.
02:28 Hydrochloric acid in tissue that's not made
02:31 to see hydrochloric acid is not good.
02:34 It damages the cell life. Right
02:36 So when the hydrochloric acid seeps up into the
02:39 esophagus, a lot of people have what we call "heartburn."
02:43 We call that "reflux" because the acid refluxes up.
02:47 They call it "gastroesophageal reflux,"
02:50 acid refluxes up into that.
02:52 If it happens long enough, the acid actually damages
02:56 the cells in the esophagus and make them more
02:59 prone to develop cancer.
03:01 That type of esophagus we call "Barrett's esophagus."
03:05 So if lots of acid bubbles up long enough,
03:07 it can damage the cells and it also can convert those
03:11 normal cells into cancer cells.
03:14 Cancer of the esophagus is a very hard thing to deal with.
03:18 Now the things that happen with the esophagus, Nick,
03:20 the main things that happen is the reflux,
03:24 and sometimes the reflux can cause esophagus to get narrowed.
03:27 We call that a "stricture," and a person might
03:30 not be able to swallow.
03:31 Sometimes the esophagus can spasm.
03:34 You known when they have spasm - you eat something
03:35 and it won't go through, that can be a spasm,
03:38 and then, of course, we talked about the cancer...
03:40 those are some of the 3 more common things that happen
03:42 to the esophagus.
03:44 So Barrett's esophagus is when acid refluxes up
03:47 and it damages the cells inside the esophagus.
03:50 So that's something we really want to try and avoid.
03:52 Yes, we do not, and people who have that,
03:54 they have to have regular looks and specimens drawn
03:57 to make sure the cells are not changing into cancer.
04:00 And they want to limit that acid reflux,
04:02 so some of them have to take special antacids.
04:05 And then they want to do lifestyle measures
04:07 that lower their risk of acid going up
04:09 which would include losing weight,
04:11 eating a whole food plant-based diet,
04:15 stay away from a lot of protein-like foods,
04:17 make sure they don't have infections.
04:19 If they have hernias, deal with those as well.
04:21 I didn't realize that acid reflux could be
04:23 a really serious condition like that.
04:25 It can, it can, but one of the more serious things
04:28 is it can cause the esophagus to get sticky inside,
04:31 and when it gets sticky, it sort of squeezes off
04:34 so the food can't get through. Right
04:36 So we have some people that the acid damages the esophagus
04:39 so much, Nick, that they can't get the food through.
04:42 If you can't get the food through,
04:43 you don't get any nutrition... Yeah
04:45 So that is a very... Now is it possible to
04:47 transplant the esophagus? Yes. Really?
04:49 We've had some esophageal transplants,
04:52 but it's very hard to do.
04:54 It's not our first line of treatment.
04:55 Right, not the preferred way to go.
04:56 So that's just part of the tube, that's just some of the things
04:59 that can happen to the esophagus. Okay
05:01 We've got another question and sometimes these questions
05:04 dealing with the GI can be somewhat embarrassing,
05:06 but she says: "I'm a female with fecal incontinence,
05:09 and it is embarrassing, what are my options for treatment?"
05:11 Well I think we need to talk to people about what
05:13 fecal incontinence is.
05:16 Now remember, we've talked about the tube,
05:18 and it has like little devices that keep things from
05:21 going the wrong direction, keep things moving in.
05:23 The one at the mouth and the esophagus
05:25 is called the "epiglottis."
05:27 We have one between the stomach and the esophagus,
05:29 the lower esophageal sphincter, we got some sphincters there.
05:34 Then as it moves through the stomach where digestion
05:37 and all the digestion occurs through the small
05:39 and large intestines, eventually
05:40 the waste have to leave.
05:42 And of course, we have a sphincter down there
05:45 that keeps it in as well.
05:47 Sometimes that sphincter wears out,
05:50 and when it wears out, guess what?
05:52 The poop just comes out. Yeah
05:54 And that can be very embarrassing.
05:56 It's a major problem and it happens
05:59 to a fair number of people.
06:00 We don't hear about it much because
06:01 people are so embarrassed.
06:03 And a lot of people, it happens when people tend to get older,
06:07 and sometimes they have to wear diapers.
06:09 And we hear of stool incontinence.
06:12 We call that "fecal incontinence,"
06:14 but it also comes with the urine as well.
06:16 So some people just wear the diapers,
06:18 and we never hear about it.
06:20 Because the tube doesn't have
06:21 ability to keep what's in it, in it.
06:24 So there are a couple of things that people can do
06:27 to help that situation.
06:28 One, is a stool softener to make sure the stool is not
06:31 coming out really hard - that can help protect
06:34 that sphincter down there.
06:36 Another thing is lots of fiber, lots of water,
06:39 we talked about that.
06:40 There is an exercise called "Kegel" exercises that work.
06:43 They can go to the internet and learn how to do
06:45 those special exercises - that helps the muscles.
06:48 So it makes the muscles so
06:50 that sphincter works a little bit better.
06:52 But one of the things I learned not too long ago,
06:54 from Heartwise Ministries, one of our advisors,
06:57 that happens to be a colorectal surgeon.
06:59 He says that there are some very simple surgeries
07:02 that they can do now on that sphincter to tighten it up
07:05 so people don't have to have incontinence. Okay
07:09 So a lot of people don't realize it, but there are surgeons
07:12 that specialize in this and this is a great place
07:14 for modern medicine.
07:16 So a surgeon can do a simple and some of them
07:17 even robotic surgeries that they do that they tighten up
07:21 that sphincter so you don't have
07:22 the problem with fecal incontinence.
07:24 So that's on the lower part of the tube.
07:27 What are some of the parts
07:28 that have the lower part of the tube?
07:30 Well, we talked about incontinence,
07:32 of course cancers happen there.
07:34 We also see hemorrhoids... that's sort of veins
07:37 sort of like varicose veins down there that pooch through.
07:40 That can be very painful, can actually cause bleeding.
07:43 When it gets real dry, we can have
07:45 what we call "fissures," and the skin there is
07:48 very different than other parts of skin,
07:49 and it can have fissures where you have bleeding
07:51 that goes on in that part of the tube. Okay
07:53 So that's why the things we talked about,
07:55 and, you know, the same help that part of the tube
07:58 that helped the other part of the tube.
07:59 We want to avoid toxins, lots of water,
08:03 lots of fiber, but sometimes the tube does get older,
08:06 and this is one instance where modern medicine is very
08:09 helpful and find a good surgeon that can
08:12 fix that lower sphincter.
08:14 And even though these things are maybe embarrassing,
08:16 you know, it's really worth talking to your doctor
08:18 and see what can be done. Yeah it is...
08:20 Our next question comes from a viewer who asks:
08:22 "What are "probiotics, and how can they be useful?"
08:25 Yeah, and that's what we have to spend a lot of time on.
08:28 We are just now learning, in science, that the bowel is a big
08:33 tube that has trillions of bacteria.
08:37 It is its own ecosystem of itself.
08:41 And these trillion bacteria have to live in a very
08:44 special environment.
08:46 If you get one that has overgrown the other,
08:48 it makes chemicals, it makes inflammation,
08:50 it makes byproducts, it does all sorts of bad things.
08:54 A lot of people eat bad foods and they mess up this ecosystem,
08:58 and when the ecosystem is up, it destroys everything.
09:01 In fact, I've got some examples of some people
09:04 that have eaten foods that damaged the ecosystem.
09:08 Here, I have a 52-year-old woman,
09:10 she had daily headaches, everyday lots of migraines
09:13 for years because the ecosystem,
09:17 she damaged her flora and it was making chemicals
09:20 that caused these migraines. Right
09:22 So she found relief just by getting her bowel flora
09:25 back to normal and it stopped the inflammatory
09:28 mediators that were causing her headaches. Wow
09:31 And you know, you have all sorts of different
09:33 damages that can occur from this.
09:35 Another person, this happened to be a 6-year-old girl,
09:38 and she had behavioral problems.
09:41 And, she was violent, disruptive, depressive,
09:44 all sorts of this and her problem was happening
09:47 because she had bacteria overgrowth.
09:49 She was eating the wrong types of food.
09:51 And what happened in this little girl is the case study showed
09:55 that when she was eating lots of animal products...
09:57 Okay, animal products changes our ecosystem because
10:01 a lot of antibiotics are in animal products,
10:05 and that kills off the bacteria.
10:07 Some of the good bacteria are killed,
10:09 some of the bad take over, some of the yeast take over.
10:12 They start making all sorts of bad mediators,
10:15 it changes our genetics and this was actually
10:17 damaging this girl's chemicals that affected her brain,
10:20 and she was having behavioral problems
10:22 just because of the gut. Wow Isn't that pretty interesting?
10:25 Yeah, I wouldn't think that behavioral problems
10:27 or headaches are things that could be related
10:28 to what's happening in your stomach. Right
10:30 And that's why we wanted to talk about this.
10:33 Another case history of a 3- year-old boy with
10:36 autistic-like symptoms.
10:38 They started treating a parasite because his gut
10:42 flora was abnormal.
10:43 It was abnormal, he couldn't get rid of the parasite.
10:46 The parasite triggered the change in this whole ecosystem.
10:50 Remember, this ecosystem has genetics in it.
10:55 There are 100 more genes in the bacteria in your bowel
10:58 than throughout your body, a hundred times more genes.
11:02 So if you have all those genetic material when they are
11:05 turning on all sorts of different proteins
11:07 and different chemical reactions that get absorbed
11:09 into the body... the toxins, the byproducts,
11:12 and it goes places.
11:13 It goes to the heart, it goes to the brain,
11:15 it causes all sorts of bad things to happen.
11:17 So a lot of good health starts in the gut. Right
11:21 Not only the good things we get in,
11:23 but the bad things that we put in that are absorbed
11:26 because of bacteria which is normally protecting us
11:29 from those evil empire, the bacteria is messed up,
11:32 the bad bacteria starts saying, "Well, I have DNA too,
11:35 I'm going to make whatever I want and it goes somewhere."
11:38 It gets in our blood system, it messes up the balances
11:40 in our brain, in our endothelium and then the good
11:43 bacteria are overrun.
11:44 And we've seen that in all the antibiotics we're using
11:48 nowadays in animals.
11:49 So people that eat lots of animal-based nutrition,
11:53 that's bad for the ecosystem.
11:55 People that don't have fiber, that's bad for the system.
11:58 So in short, we mess up this fine balance that we have
12:01 in our system and that system
12:03 literally destroys us if we let it.
12:05 So it goes from anything from depression
12:08 to heart attacks, lots of things.
12:10 The brain and the bowel are intimately connected
12:13 because these trillion bacteria and the genetics
12:15 that goes with it, makes chemicals that throw things
12:18 off balance.
12:19 So once things are out of balance,
12:21 how can that be reversed?
12:22 That's right and that's one of the things,
12:24 you gotta get your bowel happy again,
12:25 and we talked about the basic principles...
12:27 Drink lots of water, lots of fiber,
12:30 and you've heard about these things that detox the system
12:33 like greens - greens are great for detoxing!
12:36 It has all sorts of fiber in it, chemicals like chlorophyll
12:39 which helps set up the good bacteria.
12:42 And nowadays, people that do eat bad foods,
12:44 and don't eat a good diet, I recommend that they take
12:47 a probiotic. Okay
12:49 Probiotics are lots of good bacteria that we introduce
12:53 back into the system. Okay
12:55 In fact, this has gotten so much press recently
12:58 that sometimes people that take too many antibiotics
13:00 they get overgrowth of bad bacteria that
13:03 really cause lots of problems.
13:04 One of them is called, "Clostridium."
13:06 It's even possible now... a lot of people need to take
13:10 probiotics - and even stress can mess up the bowel flora,
13:14 but we found out that sometimes the bowel flora is so messed up,
13:18 you even have to have a transplant of bacteria,
13:20 a good bacteria back into the bowels. Okay
13:23 And we actually do what we call, "stool transplants
13:26 or poop transplants" now.
13:28 And what that does is when someone has messed up their
13:30 bacteria so much that it's damaging the body
13:33 these inflammatory things, all sorts of those byproducts
13:36 are making them, you know, all that is just messed up...
13:40 It's so bad that we can take the poop from a good person
13:43 that has healthy bowel... we can isolate those bacteria,
13:47 put it in a pill and they can swallow that pill
13:50 and they can restore that.
13:52 That's sort of the same principle we have with
13:54 probiotics, and when you go to the store there are
13:57 many probiotics out there, many out there.
14:00 But what we want to do is try to find ones with
14:02 lots of colony-forming units... that means there's
14:06 lots in there, and also usually it has a Lactobacillus species.
14:11 But the one that a lot of the GI doctors recommend is
14:14 one called "Align," but many are very helpful.
14:18 And unfortunately, in this world where we don't eat right,
14:21 and bring in other toxins in the bowels,
14:23 it messes up our bowel flora...
14:25 The bowel affects the way we think, the way our heart works,
14:28 our entire ecosystem in our body is affected by our bowels,
14:32 and a lot of people don't realize this,
14:34 but a lot of important chemical reactions start in the bowel.
14:36 The bowel is in charge of letting the good in;
14:39 it also can keep the bad out, if it's working well.
14:41 If it's not working well, the bad gets in
14:44 and also their own system can make bad that damages us.
14:48 So that's a pretty whole lot to handle here. Yeah
14:51 Just remember, we want our bowel to be happy,
14:54 and to do that - fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains.
14:56 Avoid meat, eggs, cheese, anything with a face on it,
15:00 anything with a mother - try to avoid those things.
15:02 Avoid a lot of processed foods.
15:05 Try to eat more fresh and real.
15:07 Drink lots of water and don't wear your system out.
15:10 It needs to rest at night.
15:11 It can't be working all the time, give it a chance
15:15 to rest and keep things going good.
15:16 So someone says, "Well how do I know if my ecosystem
15:19 is good in the bowel?" Right
15:20 Well if you are going regularly and have well-formed stools,
15:24 not getting stick - that's a good chance that your
15:27 ecosystem is doing very, very well.
15:29 But if you have stools that aren't well-formed,
15:32 if you're having cramps or other problems,
15:34 one of the first places to consider is the bowels.
15:36 A lot of people with depression and behavioral problems
15:39 have that because their bowels aren't happy,
15:41 and it's making chemicals that affect their brain.
15:43 That's amazing... you know I hadn't made the connection
15:45 that the gut has that big of an influence on us.
15:48 Yeah, it does and we're just now understanding
15:50 the complexities of it, you know, and we never can
15:52 understand everything, but we're just learning things,
15:54 but it goes back that God's plan is always the best plan.
15:58 There are just some simple things that we can do
16:00 to keep learning... Now we'll probably have to
16:01 do another program on this because there's
16:02 so much more to talk about.
16:04 But the main thing is that we live in harmony with our
16:08 Creator's design for us.
16:10 Right, that's what we need to do.
16:11 We're going to be back in just a moment as
16:13 Dr. Marcum closes the program with prayer.
16:21 I know a lot of you out there have been listening
16:24 to the program and said, "Wow, this is something
16:25 I don't want to think about."
16:27 But you know, this is something that we need to know about,
16:30 and we need to know that the food we eat,
16:32 and the way our bowel functions, it does affect our entire body.
16:35 Before we go on, let's pray that we all might learn more
16:39 and do better in taking care of our bodies.
16:41 Father in Heaven, We want to thank You for
16:43 being our God that loves us, that teaches us new things
16:47 and helps us to get better one step at a time.
16:49 We pray and thank You for Your love that You give us each day,
16:52 and thank You for making us so wonderful, Father.
16:55 Thank You for helping us
16:57 learn more this day is our prayer... Amen
16:59 Wow, you know, when we talk about the big tube,
17:02 there's so much more we didn't cover today.
17:04 I want to encourage you to learn more, go to our website that is:
17:07 heartwiseministries.org
17:09 where you could ask me a question...
17:11 And of course, we have a prayer page there where we are
17:14 praying for each one of you that writes in.
17:16 Thank you for joining us today on "The Ultimate Prescription"


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