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00:01 Welcome back to the Ultimate Prescription.
00:02 I'm your host Nick Evenson. 00:04 And on today's program, 00:05 we're talking with Danny Shelton 00:07 about his experience with bypass surgery. 00:08 And, Dr. Marcum, 00:09 tell us a little bit about your thoughts on 00:12 how Danny's experience has been. 00:14 Is this common? 00:15 No, it's not. 00:17 A couple of things are uncommon, 00:18 but beneficial. 00:20 One is that most people aren't as active 00:23 as quick as Danny has and I tribute that 00:27 he was in such good shape going into the surgery. 00:31 So that's one thing, 00:33 two, yes, most people have more side effects 00:36 on the medicines than even he does. 00:38 And I would suggest that if you don't feel right, 00:40 don't ignore it. 00:42 You know, and the faith that Danny has, 00:45 that helped him heal 00:48 much quicker than most people do. 00:50 I've noticed that people that have faith, 00:53 not all of them get better quicker, 00:55 but sometimes it can definitely help people get better 00:58 because as we talked, you know, we all have genetics 01:00 and how they respond is so different. 01:03 So what happened to you is not, 01:05 could have necessarily representative everybody, okay? 01:09 But we've talked about some of the complications, 01:11 some of the feelings, 01:13 we've talked about the medications, 01:14 how we made the diagnosis, the place for modern medicine. 01:18 But now, I really want to talk just a few minutes, 01:21 just a couple of specific things that only Danny knows, okay? 01:26 One is, you know, 01:28 how has your experience your walk with God changed? 01:33 And two, how does it affect your approach to serving God? 01:38 Or has it? 01:40 Actually, it has, it's just made me more aware 01:43 because all of us can get in a rut no matter what we do. 01:46 And so time to time, from time to time, 01:48 it's good to have a wake-up call. 01:50 Right. 01:51 And so I look at this as a wake-up call. 01:53 That is I mentioned earlier, every day is a gift. 01:57 And I realize now there's a good chance 02:00 I may not be here till the Lord comes 02:02 not that He may be so long, but I may be gone tomorrow. 02:05 Right. This can happen to you. 02:07 Something else could happen. 02:08 But every day, you say, "Okay, Lord, 02:11 how can You use me today?" 02:13 Because I realize I'm here to be a witness. 02:15 He said, "Go ye into all the world." 02:18 He didn't just say go Mark Finley 02:19 or Doug Batchelor, He said, "Go ye." 02:21 So when I'm in church service I ask people, 02:23 how many ye's are here? 02:25 Let me see your hands? 02:26 So I say unless you don't have one, 02:27 it should be raised up. 02:29 So we don't put that responsibility on someone else. 02:31 But here's what I found out, Dr. Marcum, 02:34 when I'm concerned about others, 02:36 see, God knew this in His infinite wisdom, 02:39 when He said, "Go ye into all the world." 02:40 Now does He really need me 02:41 and you to bring people to Christ? 02:44 Not at all. Why did He do it? No. 02:46 He did it for our own salvation because when I'm loving, 02:51 worrying about witnessing to you, 02:53 I'm not worried about me, myself and I. 02:56 So when I'm not worried about me, myself and I, 02:58 there's, I'm certainly relax, 03:00 I'm at peace because I'm worried about others. 03:02 I'm involved in their life 03:05 mentally, physically, spiritually. 03:07 And it's such a healer to be able to do that. 03:09 So I love... 03:11 I talked to people on planes everywhere we go. 03:14 My wife says, "My folks just tell me, 03:16 that boy never meets a stranger." 03:17 You know, I enjoy people. I enjoy talking. 03:20 And so to me witnessing to the Lord is for our benefit. 03:25 It's the best thing we could ever do. 03:27 You can't say people say, 03:28 "Well, I just don't have the gift of gab. 03:30 I can't talk." I say, "Really?" 03:32 I was at some folk's home, they had beautiful home. 03:35 They said, "Well, you can talk but we can't do that. 03:38 I said, "Really?" 03:39 I said, "You have beautiful home." 03:41 Thank you. 03:42 I said, "Who purchased it for you?" 03:43 Oh, we did? I said, "How'd you?" 03:45 Oh yeah, we talked to realtor 03:47 and they wanted this and we got him down. 03:49 I said sound like you talk pretty good to me. 03:51 Yeah. There you go. 03:52 So you were able to negotiate when you wanted to 03:55 be able to talk I said, "You bought your own car. 03:57 So you dealt with the people. " Yeah. I said, "Okay." 04:00 Go ye into all the world. 04:01 So people do what my dad used to say, 04:04 "People do what they wanna do." 04:05 My encouragement is to when this happens, 04:09 whatever happens in our life, 04:10 when we look outside instead of itself, 04:13 and look outside, we'll find a peace the Lord knew, 04:17 go ye into all the world. 04:18 He's willing to use us. 04:20 He flows through us to be a blessing. 04:22 He says, "If I be lifted up 04:24 from this earth will draw all men unto me." 04:27 So when we do that, your perspective on life, 04:30 it's you don't have to worry about getting depressed, 04:32 or get down and out 'cause you say, 04:34 no matter what the devil throws at me, 04:36 I'm still, God still loves me. 04:38 He's a mansion with my name on it, 04:40 your name on it in heaven already prepared. 04:43 It's a free gift, salvation. 04:45 All we have to do is accept it. Yeah. 04:47 Then go and tell what He's done for us. 04:49 Well, that's wonderful because 04:50 that's what we like to focus on. 04:52 And I wanna talk a little bit about that is, 04:54 you know, you are living a healthy lifestyle, okay? 04:58 You had God in your life. 05:00 And yet you had these bad things happen. 05:02 God knows why, of course, 05:04 but how do you feel now? 05:08 Now the way exercising doing things, 05:10 but the way you feel like 05:12 two months before bypass surgery, 05:13 have you felt different? 05:15 And, you know, and the reason I'm asking as everyone says, 05:19 "Well, some people are reluctant to use 05:21 modern medicine, modern technology, 05:23 they see that as a weakness. 05:26 You know, they see that as weakness. 05:27 But I tell people, 05:28 there's a place for modern technology in keeping us going. 05:32 So God can use us more, replacing parts, 05:35 dealing with emergencies. 05:36 There's a place for that. 05:38 So do you feel better after all this has happened? 05:40 Absolutely. 05:42 I had a doctor on once I was interviewing 05:44 an orthopedic surgeon. 05:46 She said, "There is no need for doctors anymore. 05:50 I used to think so. I am a doctor. 05:52 I quit my practice. 05:54 That, you know, it's, you just trust the Lord." 05:56 And, you know, doctors, there's you know, it's, 05:59 I couldn't believe I'm interviewing this person. 06:02 And it's on television, right? 06:04 And I'm thinking she's gonna give us some good news. 06:06 So I said to her, "So you don't see any reason." 06:08 And she was dealing with cancer and stuff. 06:10 Saying, "No, you don't need a doctor." 06:12 And I said, "Well, let's say that you leave here right now 06:15 and you go outside in your car and you get in an accident 06:17 and your arm gets cut off, which you used to do surgery 06:20 and it's laying in a ditch, do you not need a doctor." 06:24 I mean, I think you'd want somebody to come and fix it 06:26 'cause I don't think if you're vegetarian eating 06:29 and your life, healthy lifestyle 06:30 is gonna get that arm to come back and grow back on. 06:33 We have to be balanced. 06:34 The devil doesn't care which side of the boat 06:36 we fall out as just long as we fall out. 06:38 Right. So the balancing. 06:39 Do I feel better? Absolutely, I feel better. 06:41 And I'm working, you know, I'm here at 3ABN, 06:44 weekends we're traveling a lot. 06:46 I know I should slow down some, 06:47 but I'm also helping build a house. 06:50 You know, and I love that being outside 06:52 and that's therapeutic for me 06:53 outside in the summer and this fall, 06:56 been able to do a lot of work and I'm just enjoying it. 06:58 And I praise God for every minute. 07:00 That's great, well, you know, we've talked so much 07:02 about in each individual, 07:05 there's no black or white genetically 07:07 'cause we're all so different. 07:09 And God heals us different ways that might be outside. 07:11 And we talked about, you know, 07:13 how things have changed over time, 07:15 the technology and bypass has improved so much 07:18 than it was 30 years ago. 07:20 In fact, if your dad was here today, 07:23 things might have been different. 07:24 But God chose to heal him differently. 07:26 Yeah. There you go. 07:28 And lifestyle things, you know, we focus on so many things, 07:31 but nowadays, we're having a shift 07:33 where we've talked a lot about exercise and food, 07:36 but now it's getting more towards mental health, 07:39 you know, 'cause we know when the brain doesn't work well. 07:42 When it doesn't do well, 07:43 it again causes our body to age when it ages enough, 07:46 we have a symptom, 07:48 we have a symptom then modern medicine can help. 07:50 So there are so many variables and I think you've given 07:53 some great insights in the variables. 07:55 Now if a gentleman has had bypass surgery, 07:58 I think you've stressed 07:59 the importance of relationships and exercise. 08:02 Are you still able to be physical 08:04 and do your exercise every day and stick with that plan? 08:08 Absolutely. 08:10 Just like I did before, like I said, 08:11 "I've never had a chest pain and fortunate to this day." 08:15 But everything that I did before 08:18 I'm still able to do and I climb up down the ladder 08:20 sometime 50 times a day on top of roof 08:23 and when I'm carrying stuff and carrying plywood up 08:25 and setting trusses, 08:27 I did a whole garage trusses by myself, 08:29 24 feet trusses, put them up, not bragging, 08:31 just saying those are things I used to do. 08:33 So my wife says, 08:34 "I think you think you're a whole lot younger now 08:37 since that surgery, 08:38 you seem to be doing so much more stuff." 08:40 And I said, "Well, I just didn't have the opportunity 08:42 this house coming getting outside." 08:44 But now I feel great. 08:46 I would encourage somebody to do what, 08:49 you know, you're here to tell us 08:51 and I appreciate your program. 08:52 I wanna say that so much for what you do 08:55 for the cause of God, 08:57 but you're so balanced because you're bringing in, 08:59 look there is room for medicine, 09:02 sometimes we need it in order to stay alive and to do things. 09:05 God has given man that knowledge. 09:08 And so, on the other hand 09:10 you bring us right back to the Ultimate Prescription 09:13 which is the Lord Jesus Christ 09:14 and so thank you so much for what you do, Dr. Marcum. 09:17 I'm so thrilled that you work with 3ABN 09:19 and have for so long on this and we pray you continue, 09:22 Nick, to do this type of programs 09:25 that encourage and strengthen people. 09:27 Well, I wanna, you know, most people after bypass, 09:30 they can go in your direction, okay? 09:33 But some people also go the other direction 09:35 of lot of fear and anxiety every little thing. 09:37 They quit living. No, we don't do that. 09:39 You know, they live, "Oh, something's gonna happen. 09:42 You know, something's gonna happen." 09:43 And, but I think you brought out a great 09:46 biblical prescription that in all things give thanks. 09:50 Just giving thanks and I've noticed 09:52 that people after bypass 09:53 after I've had a health problem, 09:55 I'm more thankful. Yeah. 09:57 Thankful for the trial. Oh, yeah. 09:58 Thankful for God. 10:00 Thankful for today, 10:01 thankful for the ability to serve. 10:02 And in that thanks itself, you know, ask, you know, 10:06 when we come in for God, what's He ask us? 10:07 He doesn't ask us for supplications first 10:09 He says, you know, 10:11 thanks and praise for us, you know, 10:13 and just that can sometimes help bring us to higher. 10:16 Because it benefits us. Yeah. 10:17 He doesn't, He's not narcissistic 10:19 needs all this praise. 10:21 He knows that when we praise Him, 10:22 it's healing for us. 10:24 Praise and thanks. 10:25 And that just gives us 10:27 back to these words in the Bible. 10:28 You know, our last, all times 10:31 and it gives us hope today and for tomorrow. 10:33 Nick? Yeah. 10:34 I'm just reminded that God doesn't want us to live in fear 10:36 but to live the life more abundant by praising 10:38 and enjoying your relationship with Him. 10:40 And Dr. Marcum, biblical prescriptions is part of that. 10:43 Let's share today's biblical prescription. 10:45 What I try to do is I try to look in scripture 10:49 for biblical prescriptions 10:51 that have evidence-based medicine 10:53 that changes us. 10:54 So I look for the evidence and then teach people 10:56 how to apply it to life. 10:58 It doesn't necessarily treat things that are, 11:01 you know what, you know emergencies 11:03 and things that wear out, 11:05 but it helps maybe slow 11:06 the process down but it gives us, 11:07 points us back to the hope we have in eternity. 11:10 So today, I'd like to share James 1:5. 11:14 And this is something I try to do as a cardiologist. 11:17 And I wanna encourage all of our 11:19 viewers out there to do this. 11:20 Well, James 1:5, "If any of you lack wisdom." 11:25 I lack wisdom on a daily basis. 11:27 The more I learned, 11:29 the less I know and more humble I become, 11:32 "Let him ask of God, 11:34 who gives to all liberally and without reproach, 11:38 and it will be given another gift to him." 11:42 So God is full of gifts 11:44 to those that are humble enough to admit 11:46 that I lack wisdom. 11:47 Okay. 11:49 So, you know, I look at my life and, you know, 11:52 as in service and all of us look at our life and, 11:54 you know, what does God say is a biblical prescription. 11:57 If you lack wisdom, ask me. 11:59 That's a biblical prescription 12:01 'cause when you know where to go for help, 12:03 that again turns down your stress, 12:06 your anxiety, it teaches you, 12:08 you know, God, I need wisdom on this situation, 12:11 you know, how should I handle this? 12:13 Teach me your way. 12:14 So I think that's a wonderful biblical prescription 12:17 that we can have in all the... 12:19 If any of you lack wisdom, 12:20 and I think everyone lacks wisdom every now and then. 12:22 Except, Nick, you lack wisdom? Every single day. 12:26 And I think the more life goes on, 12:28 the more I realized, you know, 12:29 there's so much we do not know about the earth, 12:32 about God, about even our spirituality 12:35 every day that I walk with God, 12:37 I learned something new and I'm humbled. 12:40 You know, I realized that I have bad genes. 12:42 I need a savior. There you go. 12:44 Constantly, I need a savior for everything. 12:47 So I need wisdom to help in life. 12:49 So I think that's a great biblical prescription, Nick. 12:51 Well, we've got to wrap it up here. 12:53 But, Danny, thank you so much for sharing with us 12:54 again today on the Ultimate Prescription. 12:56 And, viewers, if you'd like more information 12:58 or you have questions about some of what you heard today, 13:00 visit our website at HeartWiseMinistries.org 13:03 and you can also download our Biblical Prescriptions app. 13:06 And that will give you 13:07 a 10-minute Bible study every day, 13:10 teach you back into the Word, 13:11 and help you discover healing through God's Word. 13:14 Dr. Marcum will be with us in just a moment 13:16 to close the program with prayer. 13:24 We've heard a wonderful testimony today. 13:27 And God uses each of our testimony 13:29 to help uplift the body of Christ 13:32 'cause we're all here to serve each other 13:34 that leads us to the chemistry of love. 13:37 We'd like to have a prayer with you right now 13:39 that God comes into your heart in a special way. 13:42 So we bow our heads. 13:45 Father, God, as the Holy Spirit infuses us, 13:48 we wanna thank You for using us 13:50 in whatever way even using us in illness 13:53 to glorify Your name. 13:55 We wanna thank You for the promise of healing 13:57 as long as we walk with You. 14:00 Now go with us this day. 14:01 Stay close to us is our prayer. Amen. 14:06 If any of you might have questions 14:08 that we can help you with, 14:10 I encourage you to go to our website 14:11 at HeartWiseMinistries.org. |
Revised 2020-02-15