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Food Supplements: Good Or Bad

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Participants: Stoy Proctor, Allan Handysides

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00:36 Hello, my name is Allan Handysides
00:38 and it's a pleasure to be with you here
00:40 today on this program of Wonderfully Made.
00:42 We live in a very interesting world.
00:45 We live in a world where advertising
00:47 can make all sorts of claims and perhaps
00:51 one of the largest growing industries
00:53 is that for food supplements
00:56 and alternative types of medication.
00:59 I think as we considered this sometimes
01:02 we have difficulty in separating fact
01:04 from fiction. It's not always
01:07 easy to know what is truly
01:08 a remedy or maybe a snake oil panacea
01:13 that suppose to cure everything that may ail us.
01:17 Today I am very fortunate to have
01:19 with us here on our set Stoy Proctor
01:21 who is a nutritionist. He is actually the
01:24 chairman of the General Conference
01:26 Nutrition Council, he is an associate member
01:29 of the General Conference's
01:30 Health Ministries Department.
01:31 He is also an adjunct professor
01:33 at the Loma Linda School Public
01:35 Health and he is going to be discussing
01:37 with us some of these food supplements.
01:41 Stoy, it's a real privilege to be with you
01:44 and have you on the screen.
01:45 My pleasure being here. Thank you.
01:47 You know the Stoy has told that about
01:49 500 years ago Shen-Nung was
01:52 the emperor of China and he,
01:56 I believe was the gentleman who was responsible
02:00 for introducing herbal remedies
02:03 into Chinese medicine.
02:04 It said that he took over 365 different varieties
02:11 of herbs. One per day.
02:13 Probably one per day,
02:15 but one day he turned green and died.
02:19 What could have happened to him?
02:20 Unfortunately we don't know
02:22 which of those herbs,
02:24 was the toxic one and that is precisely
02:27 the dilemma that we are facing today
02:29 even though Chinese medicine is based on his,
02:33 biology. We don't know
02:36 what it was that turned him green
02:38 and today the question
02:40 is how do we separate,
02:42 what is good from what is bad?
02:47 So I am going to ask you
02:48 how do you tell the difference, Stoy?
02:50 Well, it's difficult, the US Food and Drug
02:55 Administration back in 1994 passed
02:59 the Supplement and Health Education Act
03:02 and they have defined some of these
03:05 terms such as; drugs and supplements
03:08 and a supplement basically is any vitamin,
03:12 mineral, amino acid or protein,
03:17 some type of plant enzymes,
03:20 herbs and what's interesting to be called
03:23 a food supplement,
03:24 they can even include organs of animals
03:28 like beef liver, beef spleen,
03:32 goats you know ears
03:34 or they can put all these kinds of supplements.
03:37 A few years ago I was visiting
03:39 a friend of mine then they were very excited
03:41 about his new supplement
03:42 and these people were total
03:44 vegetarian and I said well,
03:46 what's in this supplement
03:48 if doing such great things for you?
03:50 And He said, I don't know,
03:51 well, I said, give me the bottle,
03:52 let me read this, and I read bottle
03:53 and there was liver extract,
03:56 there was spleen extract from beef
04:00 and other animals and they were so shrugged
04:05 but you know that's a problem,
04:06 it can contain all these things
04:08 whereas a drug now, there is very specific.
04:13 A drug is can be some of the same substances,
04:16 some synthetic but it must be used
04:20 for medicinal purpose or medical purposes,
04:22 and what's the difference is that
04:25 a drug must undergo extensive testing
04:28 and they must prove beyond
04:30 the reasonable goal that this drug is going
04:33 to be beneficial and not harmful.
04:34 And it undergoes certain reviews
04:40 by peers of specialist in that particular
04:44 area where as a food supplement does not
04:47 have to go through any these tests.
04:49 So we the consumers how do we find out about
04:57 a food supplement I mean what,
04:58 what guidance could you give to us
05:02 if we are going to be looking
05:04 at a food supplement and to say you know
05:06 how do we find out this is good
05:07 or this is not so good,
05:08 this maybe harmful?
05:10 Where do we get that information?
05:12 Now it's interesting and that's a good question,
05:15 you know, when you maybe given Cipro
05:18 or some of the antibiotics
05:20 or some of the drugs it was in the package
05:22 you will have a long list of things
05:25 it will do for you.
05:26 Some of the things that are been observed
05:28 in another people. None of this has
05:30 to be done with the supplement.
05:32 Now in 1994 when they passed this act,
05:35 they required although it isn't heavily enforced
05:38 but they required a product,
05:42 a food supplement product to contain
05:45 at least seven factors.
05:47 Number one; the active ingredient
05:50 must be identified, especially less Antoni
05:53 or Salt Primal somewhere it must be identified.
05:56 And number two, there must be,
05:59 they must tell you how many capsules
06:01 or how many teaspoons or how many milligrams
06:04 it must be, quality must be measured.
06:07 There must be a structure and function
06:11 claim on each of these products
06:13 and this is what's most interesting
06:15 and these products must say that
06:17 this product was not evaluated by the Food
06:20 and Drug Administration. Number two.
06:23 It has to say that on the product.
06:24 On the product, it suppose to not all do,
06:26 some do, some don't.
06:27 I also must say that this product is not intended
06:32 to diagnose or treat or cure the disease.
06:37 Now then why should I take it,
06:41 if it, it hasn't been evaluated by the FDA,
06:44 if it tells you it's not intended to cure
06:47 or to treat or to cure,
06:48 so there is a problem there
06:50 but anyway the Food and Drug
06:51 Administration does have some power
06:53 in that area.
06:54 Also, so as a consume you must,
06:57 you must look to find these seven qualification
07:00 I am got through all seven yet.
07:02 Also they must tell you if there is any
07:05 health claim on there.
07:07 They might be able to say on there that,
07:10 that this calcium supplement has been shown
07:14 to improve the bone,
07:16 strength of the bones
07:17 and maybe reduce the risk of osteoporosis.
07:20 They are allowed to make some claims
07:23 like they are providing there some
07:24 resource to back it up.
07:25 Now that's for a specific ingredient.
07:29 Yes, specific ingredient.
07:30 But that does not necessarily apply.
07:31 That's exactly right.
07:32 To the total package. No, no.
07:33 Is there other words they may write
07:35 on the benefits of say there is some iron
07:39 and it may say this is good
07:40 for an iron deficiency. Right.
07:42 But of course it could only be,
07:43 maybe only 1 milligram or a ½ milligram.
07:46 It may not be very much on there
07:47 but the FDA does have some jurisdiction
07:50 over that area. Another thing
07:51 is very important is that they should give you
07:54 the name and address and contact number
07:57 so you can ask for more information.
07:59 So if you find a product that meets
08:02 all this seven criteria it at least
08:04 it's gone a long way to give you
08:06 some information. It still doesn't tell you
08:09 what is really gonna do for you
08:11 and it still doesn't have to provide you
08:13 the scientific research to prove it
08:16 like a drug does. You know I have a friend
08:19 he told me that because we travel a lot,
08:21 he said to me I want to give you
08:23 this medication so I said, well,
08:25 what it is? He said, oh,
08:26 it's a Chinese medication,
08:28 I said, but what's in it?
08:29 He said I don't know it's called pao jiang
08:31 or something. So I looked at it
08:32 of course it has only got Chinese letter
08:33 on this I couldn't read what it is.
08:35 A little, a little vial of dark brown
08:39 things it smells to me is that got some liquors
08:41 in it but I really can't tell what's in that.
08:44 This is what you mean by being able to
08:46 at least identify what it is
08:49 and even identify who is manufacturing it.
08:51 I can't even tell from looking at this
08:53 who is manufacturing it so.
08:54 But see if it was manufactured
08:56 and sold in United States.
08:57 They would have to put it in English,
08:59 not just Chinese. So that's one
09:03 interesting, advantage
09:04 we have in the United States.
09:06 Are there any other steps that are important
09:08 for these manufacturers for instance,
09:10 let's say I decided that
09:11 I wanted sell a peppermint extract.
09:16 And that it was very good for burping or it
09:19 was good for gases.
09:20 Could I go around to manufacture
09:23 this stuff put it on the market,
09:25 put my address on their,
09:26 put the ingredients in that,
09:29 do I have to do any registration or
09:30 am I just free to do that?
09:32 Well, you are supposed to register the product
09:35 if it's a new product that it's not
09:38 on the market since 1994.
09:40 There is only one problem,
09:42 nobody has a list of the products
09:45 they are on the market in 1994.
09:48 The botanical or the supplement companies
09:51 don't have the FDA,
09:52 doesn't have it. So it's quite difficult
09:56 and I suppose that's why the Food and Drug
09:58 Administration say you are going to have
10:00 to approve that and so if there ever
10:02 caught on it and examine the FDA
10:05 may say to them, wait just a minute,
10:08 this is a new product
10:09 and you have not registered it.
10:10 So there is at least, It's on the books,
10:13 but it's because the Food and Drug
10:16 Administration has, their under staffed,
10:18 they are not able to check out
10:20 all these claims. It is really on the,
10:23 it's responsibility of the maker
10:26 and the distributor to proof
10:28 that this product will do what it says.
10:31 But most of these studies we don't have
10:35 that kind of information.
10:36 You know I read a very interesting report
10:39 it was actually one of the Canadian journals
10:42 that I read it and they talked about
10:44 the products that they had looked at.
10:46 They said that they examine 20 products
10:49 I believe. Ginseng was one of the products
10:52 they we were looking at.
10:53 And they said that they could find
10:55 the several things, one that the amount of
10:57 ginseng in each product varied that's between
11:01 the different makers.
11:02 But also within the actual one
11:05 may cut the quantity varied.
11:07 They also found that they were quantities
11:09 of lead and mercury of varying amounts
11:12 in the different products and then they found
11:15 that there maybe a many different kinds of
11:17 additives or what possibly could be called
11:21 pollutants if you were expecting a pure compound
11:24 in these preparations. Is there some kind of
11:28 regulation about the standards
11:31 and the quantities of these preparations?
11:34 Unfortunately no, and that's a problem
11:36 with some of the herbs that there are
11:38 several problems. Number one;
11:39 the dosage or the amount in a protein in that,
11:43 let's say a teaspoon or 10 milligrams
11:45 is the active ingredient is not always
11:48 the same but remember they should identify
11:50 what the active ingredient is and they should
11:52 say that there are so many capsules
11:54 in the little bottle or package or whatever.
11:57 But they don't have to say how much of the
12:00 active ingredient is in there and so that's the
12:03 problem and not only the Canadian study
12:05 but good house keeping,
12:07 University of Arkansas
12:08 I have in my notes here of several companies
12:10 that there are reports of research
12:13 where they have examine these products
12:14 and there are different amounts.
12:16 Now there are few companies
12:18 that do have standardized dosages
12:20 and so you can counter
12:22 and what's nice about a few companies.
12:24 They have some little research out there
12:27 and let's say in the research they gave people
12:31 the Valerian, let's say that's something
12:33 that suppose to help people sleep better
12:35 at night like for insomnia and they may say well,
12:39 so many milligrams of this per capsule
12:41 were used in the study and so they will put on
12:44 their box, on their package.
12:46 The same amount of milligrams
12:48 are to be taken you know before bedtime
12:51 or something like that.
12:52 So there are some companies will do that.
12:53 Many companies do not and so there is
12:55 just no standardization.
12:57 Another problem is as you've mentioned
12:59 the purity is not also required
13:02 where we have and when we have a drug
13:05 you know you can,
13:06 you know like aspirin for instance.
13:08 You know exactly how much of the active
13:10 ingredients in aspirin or some of the other
13:12 drugs because there are strictly ready,
13:14 they are strictly regulated.
13:15 But when it comes to the supplement
13:18 or the purity is not regulated,
13:20 is not required and so we may have
13:23 different amounts, some don't have any
13:25 for instance they found that some the weight
13:28 control or weight management products
13:31 contain amphetamines that's a highly
13:34 stimulating affect. They will find in others
13:37 contain some other drug like caffeine
13:40 and you know it makes you think you are
13:43 being picked up and got a lot of energy with,
13:44 the supplement industries they talks
13:46 a lot about energy you know this will give you
13:48 lot of energy. Well, sometimes
13:50 this energy is coming from caffeine
13:51 or some other stimulant.
13:52 So that's at least two problems in the area
13:56 and of course another problem is that
14:01 then it's unlike the drug area
14:04 if the company that manufactures a product
14:07 if they get several complains about people
14:10 dying or if people got heart attack
14:13 or if they got liver toxicity,
14:16 liver malfunction they don't have
14:18 to report that, where as a drug company does.
14:21 You know I really want to be sure that
14:23 our viewers don't get the idea
14:26 that we think that drug companies
14:27 are just fine and that manufactures
14:30 or food supplements are just wrong.
14:32 Oh! No wrong.
14:34 That would be a very gross misconception,
14:35 you have some, you have some,
14:36 for instance think about you know
14:37 we have just seen the Vioxx, right,
14:39 has been withdrawn from the market.
14:41 Now Vioxx has been known for about 2 years
14:45 to be associated with some problems
14:48 but those problems are being kind
14:49 of kept under wraps.
14:51 Eventually when it became obvious
14:53 to the manufacture that become concern
14:56 and so Merck then withdraws it's product.
14:58 Celebrex at the present time is under scrutiny
15:01 because it belongs to same family
15:03 of Cox-2 inhibitors that the Vioxx does.
15:08 Is there any mechanism or any requirement
15:12 that side effects, adverse reactions people
15:17 that maybe die or if there is some
15:20 type of problem that is recurring with
15:24 a given product? Is there some requirement that,
15:26 that be reported to an agency that control?
15:31 No, and now we have a recent on the other side
15:35 of the coin here we have Ephedra which
15:37 is the dietary supplement that suppose you know
15:40 have some abstracts. Stimulatory effect and even
15:43 after they recommended that would be pulled off
15:46 the market it was still available.
15:47 But the difference between a
15:49 supplementary drug enlisting my experience
15:52 now that under, that those drugs
15:55 underwent a lot of study.
15:57 Now maybe not enough study because
16:00 the FDA has been force to bring these
16:03 new drugs, pain killers
16:04 and all kinds of drug out in the market,
16:06 maybe before the time but remember
16:09 this supplement industry is suppose
16:11 to have research to back up their claims
16:13 or back up why they are selling,
16:14 why people are buying them but sell them
16:17 are they require to all the person can do
16:20 if they have complaints is reported to their
16:22 medical caretaker and that care taker
16:24 will call the FDA and if they have enough
16:27 complaints then the FDA may turn around
16:30 and say alright you must,
16:31 let me see your result,
16:33 let me see your research to prove that
16:35 this is the weight control object
16:37 or it just stamina or it helps you sleep
16:39 or whatever. But the requirements
16:42 are very loose and the reason is
16:46 and it's a same way I am trying to say
16:48 but the supplement companies as well as
16:51 drug companies both have powerful lobbies
16:55 that influence the senators
16:57 that make the law. Now I am interested
16:59 that you talk about the food supplement
17:01 companies and you talk about the drug companies
17:04 as though they are two separate entities
17:06 but it's well known is that the manufactures
17:10 of many of the supplements
17:11 are the same companies that are manufacturing
17:14 regular pharmaceutical which we are call
17:16 them drugs.
17:17 And some of the drugs are herbs,
17:19 are natural products of the earth.
17:21 And, but those companies have two sets
17:23 of rules they sort of almost schizophrenic
17:26 there or have a split personality.
17:29 When they complain with FDA regulations
17:32 and on the other side they are getting away
17:34 with doing things that they don't require
17:36 all the research, all the money that
17:38 goes into development of the product,
17:40 and yet that the same companies,
17:41 so really what seem to me that there isn't a
17:44 great deal of moral difference between
17:48 a drug producer and the supplement producer
17:50 in many of this situation would you agree
17:52 with that or do have their. Yeah,
17:54 I think morally that would be right
17:55 but I think the drug companies halved
17:57 that DFD has more power to enforce
18:00 the law of the research and so on to prove that
18:05 they have more merit than placebo
18:08 for instance. Now you know
18:09 we've talked about then
18:11 what we are saying here is that the policy
18:14 or the policing of the validity of this agent
18:18 is the responsibility of the manufacturer.
18:21 Now I don't know of any industry
18:24 I mean we have gone through
18:25 turmoil in the last 4, 5 years is industry
18:28 has been seen not to be able to control
18:31 regulate it self. That's right.
18:33 And yet here we are having
18:36 a product that are, people are taking them
18:38 and we are expecting those companies
18:41 that manufacture them to actually be monitoring
18:44 and regulating themselves.
18:46 What advice would you give to a consumer
18:49 as to how that consumer can look at the claims
18:55 that are made of certain products
18:57 and ascertain for themselves as whether
18:59 a product has value or not because
19:01 there maybe very good products out there.
19:03 Well, many of the food supplements
19:05 are good products. Many of these things
19:08 are helpful you know vitamins are certainly
19:11 helpful and some of the,
19:13 some of the herbs have some problems
19:15 and may be we will have just a few minutes
19:17 to all go over maybe some of those herbs
19:20 have some scientific basis
19:21 for their efficacy. But really
19:24 the consumer is in dilemma.
19:26 I personally would, would use the internet,
19:29 I would go to a national database
19:32 like the National Library of Medicine
19:35 and check in there public PubMed.
19:38 PubMed is something you just type into your,
19:41 to search engine and you will get
19:44 all and then once you get into PubMed
19:47 then they will ask you for your topic
19:49 so you put valerian, sauce pepper asternia
19:51 or whatever you want put in there
19:53 and then they will give you all the studies
19:55 that have been done scientific studies
19:57 pre-reviewed that have been in there.
19:58 Now some of things I think here we have
20:01 got some experience you try this on a product.
20:03 Just last week, just last week,
20:05 I decided that I wanted to look up
20:08 glyconutrients. Now glyconutrients
20:11 are a newer product that is being promoted by a
20:15 certain company I am not going to mention
20:17 the name of the company nor the product.
20:18 But I thought well, the claims are that
20:21 there is an enormous amount of body
20:24 of research to support this so I thought well,
20:26 I would like to read that research
20:28 because I have actually
20:29 I have a niece who said to me
20:31 what do you think of this product
20:33 and I said, well,
20:34 I don't know much about it.
20:35 And she said that,
20:36 have you read the research?
20:37 And you know it was important for me
20:38 to read the research so I went to PubMed
20:41 and I got two articles, two articles.
20:45 One was the effective glyconutrients
20:47 on white blood cells in a test tube,
20:50 not in the body, not in the overall,
20:52 not in humans, not in humans,
20:53 not in even in rats but it was in the test tube
20:56 so I looked this. The other one was
20:58 someone along the same lines.
21:00 isolated singularity I thought well,
21:02 surely this is not capable of giving me
21:07 all the research so I went to some journals,
21:09 I went to the New England Journal of Medicine
21:11 which is one of the premier journals,
21:14 nothing it said you have found zero comment.
21:18 So then I thought alright well,
21:19 I better go to a nutrient journal
21:20 I went to the general nutrition,
21:21 zero results I thought maybe
21:24 this is animal physiology
21:26 so I went to animal physiology,
21:28 cellular physiology, zero written,
21:30 I thought maybe it's plant physiology
21:32 so I went to a plant physiology journal,
21:33 zero written. I went then,
21:36 instead of that I thought well,
21:37 maybe it's influencing stem cell
21:39 they have talked about how it may
21:41 empowers stem cell.
21:42 I went to the journal stem cell research,
21:44 zero written so in other words,
21:47 you are saying go to PubMed
21:48 I find these two isolated articles
21:50 but the people who are promoting this,
21:51 telling me that's a mountain that should
21:54 tell you something.
21:55 In fact, the same product now I am aware
21:57 what product it says I call the company
22:02 and I says you know, you say you have
22:03 scientific research to back up your claims
22:05 I would like some of them I have received
22:08 a stake of literature a half inch thick.
22:09 I read through there and these consensuses
22:13 of scientists agree, scientists agree
22:15 but I found no report in a science,
22:20 Reputable Scientific Journals.
22:22 In the literature they sent me
22:24 so I think this is one thing we can do
22:26 but at least that's why we've got to do,
22:28 we've got try out,
22:29 try to find out what the active ingredient is,
22:31 find out what the health claim and find out
22:33 from a reputable source like PubMed.
22:36 If there is any research to back it up.
22:38 So self-praise is no recommendation.
22:42 And testimonial, testimonies are something
22:45 that are use very often to promote
22:47 a product, you know,
22:48 and they gets some big names like you know
22:50 big scientist or some famous doctor
22:52 or some one like that.
22:54 But really if it's not their field
22:56 of study and labor, and study and interest
22:59 it really means nothing and one person you know
23:04 seeming to benefit from a product,
23:07 it doesn't mean that is going to help
23:09 the next person. You need a larger group
23:12 of people so that's another thing
23:14 you want to see, if you want to see
23:16 if this is done on a large number of people
23:18 and reported more than one in repeated
23:21 and verified more than one,
23:23 more than one study.
23:24 Its like line is pulling came out
23:26 with the mega dose of vitamin C
23:28 for everything it ails you and for a while
23:31 there people were taking these grossly
23:34 exaggerated doses of vitamin C,
23:36 not the vitamin C is a bad thing.
23:38 Would you say Stoy that there is room
23:40 for taking a regular supplement of any kind?
23:42 I would if some reason you are traveling
23:46 overseas like I know that you do,
23:48 I would take a regular supplement
23:50 not a mega dose of any other vitamins
23:52 or minerals but a regular supplement
23:54 because you can't always eat the type of food
23:56 you want and you can always eat
23:58 when you want it so maybe in some cases,
24:00 maybe a case where a child won't eat,
24:03 you can't get him to eat,
24:05 you might want to get him a supplement,
24:06 maybe during pregnancy,
24:07 the woman would take a supplement,
24:09 maybe if they are older folks
24:12 they are not assimilating their vitamin B12
24:15 even though they are taking vitamin B12
24:18 supplement are source of food well I say,
24:20 they may want to take some.
24:22 So there is a exceptional cases
24:23 but I think for the most part we should get
24:26 our vitamins and our minerals,
24:27 our protein, our carbohydrates and foods.
24:31 In fact, if you spend the money,
24:33 at this particular product
24:34 we are looking at it was a hundred
24:35 and some dollar for one
24:36 bottle of that or bottle of this $160
24:39 for that I mean if you took say the $60
24:43 that you are spending on this food supplements
24:46 and you put it into saying yes,
24:48 I think we will buy the blueberries
24:50 even though they are expensive, yes,
24:51 let's get the raspberries even though
24:53 they are little bit more expensive
24:55 then we could afford and I think that people
24:57 who spent maybe $15 or $20 a week more on their
25:02 grocery bill would probably
25:04 get a much healthier approach unnecessarily
25:07 looking for. Another problem
25:09 we have Allan is that,
25:11 that since there has not been a lot of research
25:14 done on this supplements we don't know
25:16 what the interaction is with other supplements,
25:19 the interaction is with other drugs,
25:22 the interaction is with other foods.
25:25 Well, of course. We don't know
25:26 what those are, we know some
25:27 of those interactions are problem
25:29 like grape fruit food use. Yeah.
25:31 It should leave and cholesterol
25:34 lowering medication, that's right,
25:35 and there are some other interaction.
25:37 But even worse for surgery,
25:38 when I was doing surgery I used to be very,
25:40 very concern that I had a complete list
25:42 of everything that patient was taking
25:44 because it's dreadful to get in there,
25:46 cut open the patient's abdomen say
25:49 we are operating in the pelvis and you got this
25:51 constant oozes and you're saying
25:53 how do you stop this oozing only to find out
25:56 later that although when you got to be
25:58 on a medication they said,
25:59 no, they have been taking some product,
26:02 that increase blood circulation.
26:04 Now we have a couple of minutes left
26:06 here Stoy that. Are there are
26:07 some good point? There are some good points?
26:08 We need to talk about them,
26:09 why don't we talk about it, okay,
26:10 I mean I think that there is for instance
26:12 we've mentioned in another program about
26:15 Supramental for people have
26:16 prostatic hypertrophy.
26:18 I think that there is a fair amount of
26:19 evidence that that's a useful herb.
26:21 I think cranberry juice is very good,
26:25 not as a treatment but as a preventative
26:29 against urinary tract infections.
26:32 Many of mild women who would have
26:33 repeated urinary tract infections,
26:35 I would encourage them to take cranberry juice
26:37 because I think there is a body of evidence
26:40 that shows the cranberry juice is fairly successful.
26:42 And Garlic is one of those supplements
26:44 now that they have concentrated but garlic
26:46 in a regular part you know when you are
26:48 cooking yourself is one thing but the
26:51 Cleveland Clinic, cancer clinic is saying
26:53 you shouldn't be taking garlic
26:54 if you are talking certain
26:56 other medication for cancer
26:57 and so there is some contraindication
26:59 to some of these supplements
27:01 where is in the food itself probably
27:04 since it's not any one ingredient
27:06 is concentrated. It's not gonna
27:09 give you problem. I think there are some
27:11 others besides sarsaparilla.
27:12 Ginger is good at one.
27:14 Ginger! Well the pregnant women
27:15 should not take ginger, that's right,
27:17 you know there is a need to approach
27:19 this subject in a very definitive way,
27:23 in a way that. Saint John's Wort,
27:25 St. John's Wort again ST. John's Wort
27:29 has been tested in many different situations.
27:31 It doesn't work for everybody.
27:33 It might work for some.
27:34 It might work for some.
27:35 Now do we have time
27:37 to discuss some of the things?
27:39 that have been shown to be a real problem.
27:41 We really don't. We don't.
27:42 We really don't have time but
27:43 what we do have time to do is to say
27:46 to our viewers that they should be
27:48 aware of what it is they are taking.
27:50 Stoy, I would like to thank you today
27:53 for being with us. My pleasure!
27:55 This is being interesting discussion.
27:56 And to our viewers I think that you may
27:59 have heard enough not to praise a particular
28:03 supplement nor to negate a particular supplement
28:06 but to realize that you need to be aware.
28:08 It's our sincere desire that you should
28:11 be aware and being good health. So enjoy.


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