Participants: James Marcum & Danny Miller
Series Code: WM
Program Code: WM000383
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00:35 Praise God for I am fearfully and wonderfully made!
00:39 This is what David proclaimed in a loud voice. 00:42 I want to welcome each one 00:44 of the viewers to "Wonderfully Made" 00:46 Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedules 00:49 to think about your health, and how God created you. 00:52 We have an exciting show today... 00:54 We're going to be talking about winning the war 00:57 with cardiovascular disease. 00:59 I'm so happy to have, as my guest here today, Dan Miller 01:03 Dan, welcome to "Wonderfully Made" 01:04 Nice to be here. 01:06 Tell me a little bit about this 01:07 "Heartwise Ministry" we've been working on... 01:10 Well Heartwise Ministry was basically something that 01:13 it was originated in 2005. 01:18 It was basically a natural creation from your books... 01:21 I should say. 01:22 It's a ministry that... the basic core of the ministry 01:29 their message is Truth, Love and Healing 01:34 Now, why did you set it up with truth, love and healing? 01:38 Is it a progression, or... 01:39 It IS a progression, I believe. 01:40 For instance, when you find truth, you go to the Bible, 01:46 and it's usually biblical... 01:48 When you find truth in medical fields, it's something that 01:56 you've searched for. 01:59 Once you've developed the truth of something, 02:01 then you go to the next step which would be love. 02:04 Love is something that comes natural, 02:06 and is a message from God. 02:10 And then you go to the healing process. 02:12 So it's a 3-step process, I believe. 02:14 So in this, we have to have truth 02:18 to have true healing, right? Right. 02:20 You know, I see so many myths out there about 02:23 cardiovascular disease every day... you know 02:25 This diet is better than that diet... 02:27 You can see the lies that are out there... Correct 02:30 And especially in the health care world, 02:31 and it's hard for some people 02:32 to sort of sort through this sometimes. 02:35 And it affects your whole life you know... Right 02:37 If what you know about your life is not the truth, 02:40 then, it's going to affect you in a negative manner 02:43 ...sooner or later, we all know that. 02:45 So this ministry really is dedicated, 02:48 not only to finding the truth in healthcare, 02:50 but finding the truth in life, 02:51 and the truth in the Scriptures as well. 02:55 So, I mean, there's a lot to be said for that... 02:57 and there's a group of people out there, I believe, that 03:00 are looking for this kind of a ministry to look at. 03:03 Now, we're talking about winning the war about 03:05 cardiovascular disease. Right. 03:07 I was reading something the other day, Jim 03:09 It's just some statistics that I'm going to throw out there 03:12 to you to see what you think about them... Okay 03:14 Spending on healthcare... Last year, in the United States 03:19 2.2 trillion dollars! 03:21 Now that's all healthcare all together, everything? Correct 03:24 Wow! That's a lot, a big number! 03:25 That's an amazing number. 03:27 In 2006, 900,000 heart attacks 03:32 Wow, that's just in the United States, right? Correct 03:35 Think of a city maybe the size of what... Atlanta? 03:38 Wow, 900,000... Everybody in Atlanta gets to 03:40 have a heart attack this year. That's incredible! 03:43 Out of those 900,000, 600,000 were new, 03:46 first ones... Okay Correct 03:48 300,000 of them were 2nd, 3rd, and 4th heart attacks. Wow 03:52 So that's interesting. That's staggering... 03:54 And out of the 900,000 heart attacks, 03:58 42% of these people died. 04:01 Wow, that's a lot of deaths. That's amazing! 04:04 You know, you would think a little bit about that 04:06 with all this going on, you would think that 04:08 you know, with that kind of money involved, 04:10 you would think the government and everyone 04:11 would be up in arms about fighting this disease 04:13 that's a lot more... You would think that but 04:15 it's probably not the truth. Wow 04:17 ...13 million around the world die of cardio disease every year 04:23 Every year... 13 million, Wow 04:26 Now I'm not really sure how to break those numbers down. 04:29 In the first half of the 21st century, 04:32 we're going to have an estimated 1 billion people die 04:36 of cardiac-related disease. 04:38 That's if we continue to have ... At the rate that we have 04:40 Well you know, our job here with Heartwise Ministries 04:44 is to slow that rate down. Correct 04:46 And through the truth part of our ministry, 04:49 that's what we're talking about. 04:51 Well that's why it's so exciting about winning the war 04:53 We just don't want to win a battle... 04:55 We want to win the war against cardiovascular disease. 04:57 It's a huge job... Okay 04:58 Well we have some questions from all over the world... We do! 05:01 Let's go to our first question Okay 05:05 Our first question is from Margaret in Texas. 05:09 She says, "My name is Margaret, but it could easily 05:12 have been Winnie the Worrier" Uh oh... 05:14 I think we both know somebody like that. 05:17 "Let me explain... When I was 8, my mom had a heart attack. 05:21 Her sister had a heart attack a few years later. 05:24 What can I do to lower my risks? 05:27 Well, the first thing, Winnie, you've already 05:29 done to lower the risk... 05:30 I mean Margaret... I called her Winnie the Worrier 05:33 SORRY! Margaret! 05:36 Margaret, the first thing you can do is recognize 05:38 that there is a problem... 05:39 Unless you understand the problem, 05:42 a solution cannot be developed. Correct 05:44 So we understand that there's a problem here... 05:47 There are several things that raise a person's risk 05:50 of having a heart attack. 05:51 There are some things we can't 05:52 do anything about... What would those be? 05:56 For instance, your genetics. Right 05:57 The genetic material... the DNA that passed down 05:59 from generation to generation 06:01 Sometimes it's weeks... 06:02 Sometimes we don't have enzymes that digest the material 06:05 I mean, the enzymes that have to do with cholesterol 06:10 but your genetics can predispose you. 06:11 Another thing we can't do is age... 06:13 Because as a person gets older, the chance of having 06:15 a heart attack goes up. Right 06:16 I've heard statistics, or percentages, I should say, 06:20 that 90% of all people create their own situation 06:26 And only 10% is purely genetic. Right 06:29 That's pretty astounding when you think about it. 06:31 They estimate that a lot of the heart attacks that are 06:33 happening... a lot of this number that happening 06:35 can be prevented. 06:37 Do you think that she is part of that 10%? 06:40 Well, I don't know... 06:41 You know, she might have genetics, she might not... 06:43 But, Margaret, a couple of other things... 06:45 Now you can't do anything about your genetics and your age 06:47 But the things you CAN do something about... 06:49 Let's talk about those. All right 06:51 Your cholesterol level... 06:53 The lower the cholesterol, the less risk you have of 06:55 having a heart attack, and cardiovascular disease. 06:57 What is cholesterol? 06:59 Cholesterol is a lipid which is a FAT 07:03 that we usually eat in our diet that gets deposited 07:06 inside our blood stream. 07:07 Specifically, in heart disease, it gets deposited inside the 07:10 arteries of the heart, develops plaques 07:12 ...this gradually can buildup inside the arteries 07:15 and then break loose. That's right 07:16 Can break loose, or it can cause a problem. 07:20 The next thing that Margaret can do is blood pressure... 07:23 Blood pressure is that internal pressure inside the vessels 07:27 that if it's high over long periods of time, 07:29 you can literally damage the inside of your vessels. 07:32 They call high blood pressure the silent killer. 07:35 You know why they call it the silent killer? No idea 07:37 Well, because some people don't even know 07:40 they have high blood pressure... 07:41 because they never get it checked! Right 07:42 Never get it checked! 07:44 I think men are the worst examples of this. 07:47 They can go on for years 07:48 and years and they never get a physical... 07:50 You know, someone might say... Well you ought to get it checked 07:52 And it's been up for years and years! 07:53 So would you say, even if you don't go to the doctor, 07:55 and get a physical, would it be beneficial to you 07:57 to stop in the mall if they're having a blood pressure check 07:59 and have that done at least? I sure would! 08:01 Now, most people take their car in to get it looked at 08:05 every so often... get the oil changed 08:07 I mean how much more important 08:09 is your body... than your heart check? 08:11 I think I would get it checked, you know, get my 08:13 blood pressure checked... that nature. 08:15 So Margaret, there are 2 things right there... 08:17 We can work on our high blood pressure, 08:20 we can work on the cholesterol... 08:22 The other thing is smoking. 08:23 I think everyone knows that smoking raises the risk 08:27 of having a heart attack. Right 08:29 There are lots of dangerous chemicals in cigarettes 08:33 that can raise our risk. 08:34 In fact, it's been estimated that if you can 08:36 quit smoking cigarettes, you've lowered your risk 08:39 of having a heart attack 50%... Right 08:42 How about the fact that she's a worrier? 08:44 She even named herself "Winnie the Worrier" here. 08:47 Yeah, and what worry does, is worry raises your 08:51 stress level. 08:52 And we know that bodies are under stress... 08:54 their chemistry changes. Right 08:57 Specifically, the level of stress hormones 09:01 increase dramatically. 09:02 The stress hormones might be called adrenalin or epinephrine. 09:05 Cortisol is another one, aldosterone... These all go up. 09:10 Growth hormone goes up. 09:11 When these go up, you get negative chemical reactions 09:13 You start to store cholesterol. 09:15 So chronic worrying, and stress is not helping anything 09:18 .. affects you in a real manner, and not just a perceived manner. 09:22 And later on, we're going to talk a little bit, Margaret, 09:24 about ways that we can lower that stress level too. 09:27 Now, other things that we can lower the risk 09:30 that you have control over. 09:31 You know, you want to be one of these that are not 09:33 in the 10% that do have heart attacks. 09:37 Obesity... Obesity, inactivity 09:40 That's associated with a higher rate of heart attacks 09:43 ...it changes your chemistry for the bad too 09:45 And lastly, lastly before we move on... is diabetes 09:49 People that have diabetes, it affects the blood vessels. 09:52 They're more prone to have heart attacks, stroke and 09:55 cardiovascular disease. 09:56 So there's a whole host of things here, Dan 09:59 But you know, a lot of people worry a lot... They do 10:01 You know, they worry about it... 10:02 And sometimes that worry, years and years out, 10:05 it creates negative coping habits... 10:09 And your worried, you're stressed, so what do you do? 10:11 You know, some people SMOKE... 10:12 We don't, in the United States, take care of our stress, 10:16 and worry in the manner that other countries do, for instance 10:20 We get in bad habits. 10:21 Some people snack all the time. 10:23 Yeah, some countries have a nap in the afternoon... Right 10:26 And those are some things we should start looking into 10:28 I think to lower this rate. 10:29 But I hope that, Margaret in Texas, 10:31 I hope those suggestions are some things that you can do 10:34 to lower your risk of having cardiovascular disease. 10:37 All right... let's go to #2. 10:41 This is from Frank in New York City or at least N.Y. 10:45 "My bypass surgery was 5 years ago... 10:48 My cholesterol is good. " 10:50 "I exercise every day for at least 30 minutes. " 10:53 That's good! That's very good. 10:55 "My blood pressure runs 120/70." 10:58 "Is there anything else you can think of that will lower my 11:02 risk of having more problems?" Okay... 11:04 Now, when you talk about cardiovascular disease, 11:08 we talk about the battle. 11:09 And it looks like Frank has already suffered the battle. 11:11 He has had bypass surgery. 11:13 But bypass surgery does not necessarily fix the problem. 11:17 Remember, it bypasses around the blockages. 11:19 The blockages are still there. 11:21 Now, we talked to Margaret last about the things 11:24 that she did to lower her risk factors. 11:27 It looks like Frank is doing those... 11:29 But there are other things that... 11:30 What can I think of that would help him more... 11:33 Well, stress... You know, we've talked about stress. 11:37 Well, what are things that a person can do to lower stress? 11:41 Well, you know, I think there are many different things 11:46 and what's interesting about stress is what might work for 11:49 YOU, might not work for ME. Right 11:52 A lot of people, just real soft music will lower their stress. 11:57 A lot of people think exercise has a big benefit... For sure 12:01 I would personally think a lot of us dissipate our stress 12:07 through the way we eat. 12:09 Certain foods make us very comfortable... Right 12:12 In doing that, you kind of compound the problem 12:16 that you're already trying to alleviate though... 12:18 So there are good ways to alleviate stress, 12:20 and I think there are bad ways to alleviate stress. 12:22 Well, and Frank, in talking about stress, 12:25 one of the things that I want to point you back to 12:28 is the Bible... Correct, very good point! 12:29 You know, one of the best treatments for stress is 12:32 the God of the Universe worked 6 days, and what did He do? 12:36 He rested... He rested. 12:37 How many of us get rest? 12:40 For instance... true rest... Yeah 12:42 If you jumped off a building, Dan, 12:44 okay, this is a natural law... 12:46 You would break when you hit the bottom, wouldn't you? 12:48 Yes... whether you believed it or not. Right 12:51 When we violate God's natural laws, for instance, 12:55 the law of rest; 12:56 when we violate that natural law... we're affected. Right 12:59 Whether we believe it or not! Correct 13:00 Our chemistry changes inside, the stress hormones go up, 13:04 and we predispose ourself to having chemical problems inside. 13:08 So that's one thing... Rest 13:11 I would say that, also being in the Bible 13:15 through prayer, and the Holy Spirit being able to 13:19 come into your life and change you from the inside out... 13:22 I think is a huge thing to deal with stress though. 13:26 Now another thing that we talk about stress, 13:27 at nighttime, you know our bodies are made to rest at night 13:31 When we don't get good rest at night, whether it be 13:34 we stay up too late eating food, 13:37 we're saturated by stimulants like the internet, 13:40 television, telephones, caffeine yeah, cell phones, beepers 13:44 Everything is going off. 13:45 We don't naturally rest... 13:47 And you've heard of the circadian rhythms that we have 13:49 Yes... Those get disrupted, guess what? 13:52 It puts MORE stress on our body... 13:54 The next thing happens, these stress hormones, the epinephrine 13:57 the cortisol, all these go up again, and disease sets in. 14:00 And it's an unending circle if you don't get control of it. 14:03 And the statistics that you quoted earlier 14:05 well, that's why we have such high statistics 14:08 because our chemistry is changing... 14:09 We're not taking care of the insides, 14:11 and we don't even recognize what we're doing. Correct 14:14 Now, I want to get back to Frank... 14:15 There are a couple of other things, Frank 14:17 that I could think of that might help you. 14:19 And we talked about rest... Water! 14:22 I think water lowers your risks 14:24 ...70% of your body is water. 14:25 And I heart something to the effect that a huge amount of 14:29 people in the United States are chronically dehydrated... 14:33 Is that correct? Right 14:34 And I've read a study recently that said up to 70-75% 14:37 are chronically dehydrated. 14:38 We're drinking Starbucks... Right 14:40 We're drinking Cokes, caffeines 14:43 But we're not drinking water. 14:45 In the Garden of Eden, for instance, 14:47 you didn't see a Starbucks, or a Coke machine out there. 14:50 They drank water... 14:51 It seems to me like water, from a commonsense standpoint, 14:54 that water would be a natural agent... a washing agent 14:59 you know, to clean your system out with... 15:01 And you think about all the chemical reactions in the body 15:04 depend on water. 15:06 And without water, everything can go haywire. 15:08 Now, for instance, if you were walking in a desert, 15:11 okay... and don't get enough water, 15:12 does your mind work right? 15:14 I don't think so, no. No 15:15 You start seeing things. Right 15:16 So, the chemistry depends on water... 15:19 And without water, it puts stress on the body 15:21 Stress on the body does all these bad chemical things. 15:24 So those are some things that also... 15:27 Now, one last thing that I think would help is 15:29 you've heard of antioxidants... 15:30 I think those lower your risk. 15:32 We've also heard about being happy and laughing... Right 15:37 I think that's another biblical... 15:39 And being happy and laughing does what to your system? 15:41 Well, in Proverbs, it says, 15:42 "A merry heart doth good, like medicine. " Right 15:45 We know that people that are laughing and happy, 15:47 they make higher endorphins. 15:49 So get out there and have a good belly laugh! 15:52 Don't take it so seriously. Be happy! 15:54 So I hope those are a couple of things, Frank, 15:56 that might help lower your risk of having... 15:58 Remember, we're fighting the war, Frank 16:00 And if we can get at what caused it in the beginning 16:02 stress, rest, diet... 16:04 we have a chance of not having to fight the battles 16:06 Right... Very good. 16:07 All right... #3 A question from Joanne 16:13 in Fresno, California Okay 16:15 "I read your book "Heartbeat"... 16:18 "It was easy to read, and talked about acute and chronic 16:23 treatment for heart disease. " 16:24 "Why did you divide treatment up?" 16:27 "Would it be easier to talk about treatment all together?" 16:30 What's the difference between 16:31 acute and chronic... to start out with? 16:34 Acute is something, Dan, that needs to be done right away 16:36 right now... while you're having the heart attack. Right 16:39 If you start having a heart attack right now, 16:42 here on the set... Okay, of 3ABN 16:44 All the camera people are going to come and help. Okay 16:46 Hopefully, you'll be the one to help. 16:47 We'll be here helping you. 16:49 We're going to get the heart going again... 16:50 Get the blood flowing. 16:51 We're going to deal with the problem. 16:52 We might have to take you to the hospital. 16:54 We might have to do an angioplasty or stent 16:55 But we're not going to sit there and talk about STRESS, 16:58 and days of rest, and your diet... at that point. 17:03 I think modern medicine is great for acute care. Right 17:07 But for winning the war... 17:10 That's a totally separate issue... Exactly 17:13 And you have to sort of divide it up 17:14 Because, you know, the battle is over 17:17 I think medicines have their place. Correct 17:19 But lifestyle change and getting at what caused it 17:22 For instance, if the cause of your heart attack was stress 17:24 then we would work on ways to lower the stress level. 17:27 And we'd have to determine what 17:30 the stress is... whether it was lack of sleep 17:31 Let's say that you had a guilty conscience because your mind 17:34 wasn't free from some of the things or untruths 17:38 or anything that damages the mind could have caused this. 17:40 So that's what we try to do. 17:41 We try to focus on well, what caused 17:43 the problem in the first place. 17:45 And if we can get at THAT, we've won the war. 17:47 So then at that point, what you're talking about 17:49 is sitting down and creating a game plan... Right 17:52 And that's why I divide acute and chronic 17:54 because there are so many people... 17:56 For instance, they go one route or the other... 17:58 They fight the acute battle, and then they don't 18:00 think... Well, most people think 18:02 to quit smoking cigarettes, but a lot of people don't think 18:05 "Well what did I do in the first place 18:07 to cause this problem to happen. " 18:08 And that's why I divided the acute and chronic care. 18:17 #4, Jim, I'm sorry... Okay 18:18 "One of the problems I have is stress" 18:22 Once again, we've got a question about stress... 18:24 so, obviously, everybody is stressed out. 18:26 "My doctors have tried everything" 18:29 "My job, kids, wife and life in general, nothing seems to help" 18:34 "Any suggestions?" 18:36 This is from somebody in Pennsylvania... 18:38 they withheld their name. 18:39 Well, to my friends in Pennsylvania, 18:42 I think we've sort of touched on some of these 18:44 treatments of stress... 18:45 and I think, for me, getting back to the source of truth 18:50 You know, you hear so much out there... 18:52 the treatment for stress now... 18:54 Some people do relaxation techniques... 18:56 Some people take medications 18:57 You've heard of Valium and Xanax 18:59 But if we get back to the Bible 19:01 Okay, get back to the Bible... 19:03 What the Bible teaches about stress... 19:05 Why did God give us these days of rest? 19:08 Why did God make us a good diet? 19:10 I think getting back to the Bible, and getting back to 19:12 your spiritual side... that's going to help us find the TRUTH. 19:16 And the truth sort of frees us up from some of these 19:18 things that are causing the stress... Right 19:20 And then it can lead us to real healing. 19:22 That why, you know, when we talk about Heartwise, 19:25 we start with truth... 19:26 we move to love, and then we move to healing. 19:31 It's a natural progression from one thing to another. 19:33 In the Book of John, what's that text... 19:35 "Ye shall know the truth... and the truth shall set you free" 19:38 Right, the truth sets you free. 19:40 The truth is knowledge about God. Right 19:42 Because when we know God, 19:43 God sort of teaches us what love is... 19:46 And everything sort of stems from that. 19:49 It seems like that was His greatest command in 19:51 the New Testament. 19:52 They've tried everything else here... 19:55 So I think that you are hitting it right on the head 19:59 whenever you say that the spiritual aspect of prayer 20:02 and asking God to help with the situation. 20:05 A lot of people, I find, when they talk about 20:07 cardiovascular disease, and we see the prevalence of it 20:10 ...how it all over America, and all over the world. 20:15 You don't hear it commonly to see a treatment for this... 20:17 is getting into the Bible. 20:19 Getting God to heal you. 20:21 It's not a popular way to do things. 20:25 But you can change your chemistry through 20:27 that healing process too. 20:28 You know, I believe that God heals people acutely 20:31 ...You know, like raises people from the dead... instantly. 20:34 But another way, I think, He heals us is slowly. 20:36 By giving you the power through that relationship 20:40 ...getting a little truth And change 20:41 having that love in your life, and the next thing you do, 20:44 you're able to make a better decision! 20:46 But say you're a smoker... through the healing process... 20:47 Right, you're able to quit smoking. 20:49 Were you able to exercise every day... 20:51 Or learn how to rest better. 20:52 I've had a patient recently from New York City... 20:56 that he never was able to take rest. 20:59 And just learning the principle of resting and vacations 21:01 ...his chemistry improved dramatically. 21:04 So there's lots of ways to do that... 21:06 but I want to try to point people... 21:07 One of the things I want to do is look at your spiritual life 21:10 ...Get back in the Bible 21:11 Pray that God will help you find out the source 21:14 of your stress and He will be the real treatment of the stress 21:18 Okay, we have another question... 21:19 Okay, this is from Rhonda in Indiana... 21:22 "A book I read recently had a ton of suggestions on 21:26 how to take care of your heart. " 21:28 "Intellectually, I know all this is true... 21:31 but making the change seems impossible to me. " 21:34 "Am I alone in this?" 21:36 Wow, Rhonda, that's a question I see a lot... 21:40 is people know, intellectually, what they need to be doing 21:44 For instance, people know that they should be on an 21:47 exercise program. 21:48 And people know when they're not eating right... 21:51 that they might be eating differently. 21:53 I think people know that, if they're in a stressful job, 21:56 they need to change that. Right 21:57 I mean, this is common sense, related stuff. 22:00 It goes back to your example of 22:04 somebody falling off a building. Right 22:09 It's a law... but "Am I alone in this feeling?" 22:11 No, Rhonda, you're not alone. 22:12 A lot of people feel this way. 22:14 Now, what can we do about it? 22:16 Now how do we actually take these principles, 22:20 that we've talked about, to lower the risk of 22:21 cardiovascular disease 22:23 How do we actually start an exercise program? 22:26 Where does that ability come from? 22:28 Where does the ability to eat a little bit better come from... 22:31 Or drink more water? 22:32 How does that happen? 22:33 That's a great question. 22:37 Yeah and in the end, we all know where it comes from. Right 22:41 And I think it's getting God to take control of the mind. 22:45 The mind is a very powerful thing... 22:47 You know, it says... "Create in me a new heart" 22:50 heart which is a new mind. 22:51 God wants to be in our mind and take control of our thoughts 22:54 and our actions. Everything we do... 22:56 And when he does that, then we have a chance 22:59 of changing our behavior. Right 23:01 Now, you know, you think, "Well, you know, 23:04 "I try to do these things" 23:05 Now, I see a lot of people that they try to make changes 23:07 all at once, and then when they make a mistake, 23:10 they fall off the wagon! 23:12 They beat themselves up! Yeah 23:13 ...With guilt and everything else connected with that. 23:15 "I'm not going to do this again, you know, I'm done with this" 23:17 I think all of us have gone through the guilt part of that. 23:20 But you now, one thing that I try to point people to is... 23:23 Remember that God... God loves us 23:26 He loves us more than we could imagine. 23:28 You know, He just doesn't want us to hurt ourselves. 23:30 With the things that He points out that's dangerous 23:33 When we break the natural laws, we hurt ourselves. 23:35 But as we get to know God, and see how much He loves us, 23:38 and wants to work with us, 23:39 and forgives us and takes us over. 23:41 Then, as we make one decision at a time, 23:44 it gets a little bit easier. Correct 23:46 Now, let me give you an example here... 23:48 I had a patient who came in the other day 23:51 and she wasn't doing very many things right. 23:54 And, I didn't want to hit her with everything at once. 23:56 I said, well, let's just start somewhere 23:58 But where do you start with... 24:00 Well, I want you to just pray... 24:01 Pray that God will come into your life. 24:03 ...And start reading the Bible... the source of truth. 24:06 And then the next thing is... 24:07 Maybe try not to eat big at night. 24:10 And let's get back together in a month. 24:13 So she did that for a month. 24:15 You know, she made that decision... okay 24:17 She started looking for truth 24:19 God started responding to her, 24:21 and she could do that. 24:22 And she said, "Yeah, I feel better. " 24:23 I said, "Well, the next thing, let's start exercising" 24:25 You don't have to do everything at once, but do this 24:27 So, through a series of slow changes, 24:31 she has changed her chemistry. 24:33 And that goes right back to the game plan that we talked about. 24:37 And that's why I don't think... 24:38 You know, I think the spiritual life, in treating 24:41 any chronic disease, is so vital 24:44 and imperative... It's very, very important 24:45 Because this is what changes your body's chemistry... 24:48 is when you have that freedom... 24:49 when you're able to love... 24:52 when you're able to feel that peace. 24:53 For instance, is it in Hebrews it talks about resting in God? 24:58 Yes... Hebrews 4:4, wasn't it? That seems to me like that is 25:02 It's that rest, that peace you get... 25:04 And when you have that peace, ... Your life changes 25:07 And your chemistry changes with it... Right 25:10 Now, think about, if I were the enemy, 25:12 what would I do? 25:14 I would create so much stressful situations, doubt, guilt 25:20 You know, people believing that they're not saved 25:22 ...that God doesn't love them. 25:23 I would have the internet and TV bombarding me with 25:26 lies about healthcare. 25:27 I would have all these other things to sort of make me feel 25:30 discouraged, so I didn't feel I'd do enough 25:32 and then I would want a society to numb my senses 25:34 so I wouldn't feel this way anymore... And then it goes 25:36 right back to where Heartwise Ministries is concerned 25:39 And, you know, people have to find the truth for themselves. 25:44 You know, I can't say, "This is true and you believe it" 25:47 You have to find it for yourself. 25:48 You have to go look for it yourself... Right 25:49 And we have a great textbook for that in the Bible. Yes we do 25:54 Which one are we on now? 25:55 Let's see, we're on #6 Okay 25:57 This is from Tom in Missouri... Okay 25:59 And this time, I have to break up a little bit because it's 26:01 a long question. 26:03 "The other day, I was channel-hopping and saw 26:05 you and Dan Miller talking about rest. " 26:07 "You seem like regular guys. " 26:10 "What you said made sense to me. " 26:12 "No one seems to listen to me when I go to the doctor" 26:16 "They just want to write a prescription 26:19 and send me on my way. " 26:21 "I am a trucker and at the age of 45." 26:26 "I want to stay away from pills. " 26:28 "I know I'm rambling, my question is this"... 26:33 "Why do doctors just want to give you a pill?" 26:36 I know what Jim feels like. 26:38 Yeah, I woke up one morning and felt like I was that 26:40 famous singer from Memphis... 26:41 Was it... Oh, Elvis! Yeah! 26:44 You know, I mean, I was to the point where I just 26:46 was taking a pill for everything. 26:48 And it got to the point where finally we sat down, 26:51 or I sat down with my doctor and told him that 26:54 it's really a concern to me, and we sat down and 26:58 talked about it. 26:59 We talked about... made a game plan just like you 27:02 were talking about for your patient 27:05 And slowly, he drops back the prescription, 27:10 and so on and so forth, so you can't just stop 27:12 taking your pills just cold turkey... Right 27:15 You do have to have a game plan. 27:17 If my doctor would not sit down with me and discuss these things 27:23 in a logical manner, I would not continue. 27:26 Well, back to his question 27:28 A lot of reasons people don't listen... 27:31 I mean, very few people listen like they should... 27:33 And I don't know if this is your case, 27:35 but one of the things we want to do is listen to people 27:37 Meet them where they're at. 27:39 And we want to learn to love them. 27:41 You know, love them, and figure out... out of love, 27:43 how to successfully change their chemistry. 27:46 And one of the things I try to do is think about your chemistry 27:49 How we can change your chemistry 27:51 from what it is when your sick, to a HEALING state. 27:54 And it goes back to those 3 things... 27:56 We want to teach you what's truth 27:57 We want to love you 27:58 and then, hopefully, you'll be healed. 28:00 We want to thank you and, hopefully, you will win the war 28:03 against cardiovascular disease. |
Revised 2014-12-17