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Obesity

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Participants: Timothy Howe and Sheryl McWilliams

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00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health and is not
00:04 intended to take the place of
00:06 personalized professional care.
00:08 The opinions and ideas expressed are those
00:10 of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged to draw
00:13 their own conclusions about the information presented.
00:35 Hi, I'm Sheryl McWilliams and welcome to
00:38 'Wonderfully Made.' How many of you like me
00:40 have lost a few pounds only to find them again
00:44 and find that they bring friends.
00:46 We would like to welcome Dr. Timothy Howe to the
00:48 show today and we're gonna be talking about the topic
00:51 of weight control. Thank you Sheryl, it's good
00:54 to be here. Weight control was something
00:57 I never used to worry about, but I'm with you,
01:02 it's creeping on, you have to watch it every minute.
01:05 I, not a day goes literally that I don't think about
01:08 my weight, it's something that I've struggled with my
01:11 entire life. So, this is a topic that's very near
01:14 and dear to my heart. As we get started,
01:17 I would like to understand what are some of the
01:20 complications with having too much weight?
01:25 Well, as I tell my patients sometimes,
01:30 you have to be careful if you run two ton on a one
01:33 ton truck, you're gonna break the springs down,
01:35 you're gonna have problems.
01:37 It's gonna be harder on the engine to pull it up
01:40 the hill and same is true with our bodies, you
01:42 know, if you're overweight you're going to wear
01:45 your hips out faster, you're going to wear
01:48 your knees out faster; you're going to have more
01:50 arthritis. About 50 percent more problems
01:54 with the hips, if you're considerably overweight
01:57 just the wear and tear of the weight on the joints,
02:02 it's hard on the heart, it raises the blood
02:05 pressure, lots of problems, cancer risk goes up,
02:09 obesity being too much of a good
02:14 thing can really be a risk.
02:17 Interesting many of us myself included have
02:19 tried many diets and there is just something
02:21 about that word that makes me feel uncomfortable.
02:24 How do we go about losing weight and actually
02:27 keeping it off for a lifetime?
02:30 Well, I'll tell you I don't like diet,
02:33 I say diets are the rhythm method of girth
02:36 control and they don't work any better than
02:39 that of the rhythm method, and furthermore
02:43 when you as one of my friends told me he said my
02:46 wife has lost over two tons since we have been
02:50 married. The same 10 pounds over and over and over
02:54 again you know that's one of the worst things
02:56 that you can do is lose the weight and gain it,
02:59 and lose the weight and gain it.
03:03 If weight is a problem whatever you take off,
03:07 keep off that's the very, very important and that's
03:11 why dieting, where I'm gonna be good,
03:15 I'm gonna be good for until, you know,
03:18 whenever it is, I've got a wedding coming up,
03:21 oh summer is coming, I've got to fit into my
03:23 you know whatever they wear,
03:25 so our look doesn't work because when it comes
03:29 back you know and there we have at the rhythm
03:31 method of girth control. We need not a diet,
03:35 but a change in the way we live.
03:39 What kind of changes and how we live would
03:42 end up in lifetime of weight management
03:46 or maintaining a proper weight?
03:48 Well, let me tell you a story to begin with this
03:52 is an powerful story, it's just to illustrate a point.
03:56 There was a gentleman, he was an older gentleman
04:00 and he decided he needed a new car and so he
04:04 went down to dealership and he looked at all the
04:07 cars and he found just the one he want it.
04:10 And he said to the salesman, now it's very
04:11 important to me to know how much gas you put
04:14 in this cars tank? And the salesman said
04:16 well right here on the sticker you can read it,
04:19 it holds 12 gallons of gas. Oh he said,
04:22 that's very good, he said I like to make sure my
04:25 car has a full tank of gas.
04:27 I like to know that for sure.
04:30 And so he bought the car and he took it home,
04:32 he polished in, he kept it there in the garage
04:35 most of the time he didn't have far to drive,
04:37 but every week he want to make sure that car
04:39 get fit and so he drive his car down to the gas
04:43 station he pull up, and he say to the attendant
04:45 I would like 12 gallons of gas.
04:49 So, the attendant would come and he put the
04:51 nozzle into the tank and he pull the lever and way
04:55 they go and the first time he went down,
04:59 no matter he driven a quite a bit because
05:00 it was a new car and it took 10 gallons of gas
05:04 and he went and he talked to that gentleman
05:06 and he said I'm sorry your car only took
05:08 10 gallons of gas. No it takes 12 gallons;
05:12 I'm telling you that's what they told me when
05:14 I bought it, now I want 12 gallons in my car.
05:17 The attendant scratched his head for a minute
05:18 and he said, I know what I'll do so he went and
05:21 got a gas can and he put 2 gallons in the gas
05:25 can lifted up the trunk, put it in the trunk,
05:27 shut the lid. The guy said thank you I have my12
05:32 gallons and he drove off, next week same thing,
05:34 next week same thing, but almost every time
05:37 he couldn't get a full 12 gallons in there sometimes
05:41 it was only 10, sometimes it was 5 and guess
05:46 what that car look like after while,
05:47 it was kind a sagging down of the springs,
05:50 you know because it had gas cans flopping
05:52 all around it. Do you ever seen anybody like that?
05:55 Yes myself, it's once a time.
05:58 See that's the problem with weight.
06:00 When we eat more, put more in the tank then
06:04 we burn and the key to weight management
06:07 is balancing that burn and filling problem.
06:12 Is that simple there is no magic,
06:14 there is no magic unfortunately,
06:16 I wish I had some pill, you know,
06:19 if you just had a pill that you could take and it
06:21 solve all of your problems but that didn't gonna
06:23 happen we still need to have self-control.
06:28 And that's what it boils down to,
06:31 there is a lot of tricks and things that
06:33 we can talk about, but the most important
06:35 thing is balanced calorie intake with calorie
06:39 expenditure. You know, a car is an internal
06:43 combustion engine that's what it is,
06:46 we are too, and its very important just like
06:51 for that man with a car to fill the tank but don't
06:55 overfill it right, don't overfill it, don't put gas
07:00 in your trunk back there, you know,
07:03 you want to put gas in the tank but don't add it
07:05 on and carry it for tomorrow and
07:07 the next day and the next.
07:09 Well sometimes in my personal experience
07:11 it seems that when I start to reduce the amount
07:14 of calories that I consume I lose weight at first
07:17 but then I suddenly stop losing weight.
07:21 You start plateauing, yes. You know it's an interesting
07:24 thing if you weigh 500 pounds and I've patients
07:27 who weigh 500 pounds and they are not that tall
07:31 either I mean if you were 10 feet tall maybe
07:35 500 wouldn't be far off but they weigh 500 pounds.
07:38 I think of one gentlemen, he came into my office
07:42 and he said I need to lose weight I really do,
07:45 I need to lose weight and I said well I can help you,
07:48 no problem. And I described the diet to him
07:52 and I said I want you on about he said I wanna lose
07:56 it fast, I said okay we will help you lose it fast.
07:59 I said we will give you 1200 calories a day and I
08:01 described it. He said doc I've starved on that diet.
08:06 Starve at 500 pounds might take you a few years
08:09 before you starve. You have to balance
08:12 things there, but you know you got to keep in mind
08:16 of this rhythm thing; you don't want to lose a lot,
08:20 gain it, lose it, gain it. You will be in trouble
08:23 if you do that. Absolutely, what will this
08:26 breakfast play when you are trying to lose weight?
08:29 Well, breakfast is the most important meal
08:32 of the day; your body is ready for those calories
08:35 first thing in the morning. And if you wanna lose
08:39 weight and you wanna keep it off,
08:41 eat your breakfast that's the most important meal.
08:46 I look at it this way you want to eat breakfast
08:48 like a king, lunch like a prince, and supper like
08:52 a pauper if you wanna keep your weight off.
08:55 And that's not how most of us were raised,
08:57 most of us were raised if you are gonna skip
08:59 a meal you skip that breakfast meal, that's
09:02 right. And then you have your larger meal or supper.
09:04 In fact if you talk to people who have been
09:06 around a while 80s, they will tell you that when
09:10 they were growing up they ate breakfast,
09:12 dinner and supper. Now we eat breakfast and lunch
09:18 and dinner. Our big meals in the evening,
09:22 well if you eat your calories late in a day what
09:25 you gonna do with them? You're gonna store them,
09:29 there they are gonna go right here around
09:30 your middle. Whereas if you eat them early
09:33 in the morning, you'll tend to burn them throughout
09:36 the day and you'll actually eat less than if you
09:39 eat your majority of your calories in the evening,
09:41 so that's number one with weight loss eat those
09:44 calories early in the day. Get your breakfast like
09:49 a king or like a queen. And lunch or dinner,
09:54 if you will, you want to have that like a prince
09:58 or princess and supper like a pauper or if you're really
10:03 having trouble with your weight skip that
10:07 evening meal. You don't need it,
10:10 not as long as you're overweight.
10:13 And just have two meals a day it works better
10:14 and it doesn't hurt you to be hungry.
10:19 You know, I think that's one of the first things
10:20 to keep in mind, hunger as long as you are overweight
10:25 is a sign of health. If a patient comes into my
10:29 office and he says doc I'm not hungry and I worry.
10:34 They are in trouble; they are in trouble.
10:36 Cancer causes loss of hunger.
10:39 So, when you're hungry you can say that's good sign.
10:43 I'm healthy; hunger is a sign of health provided
10:46 you are not underweight, of course.
10:50 There are many people the world over that are hungry
10:52 and that's the sign of malnutrition but very few
10:57 in this country. Now I often think Sheryl that if
11:01 we just took the calories away that we are eating
11:05 that we shouldn't from this country and gave them
11:07 to people that should have them there probably
11:10 wouldn't be any hunger in the world at all.
11:12 Do you know that 60% of the people in United States
11:16 today are overweight, 60% and that is increased in
11:21 the last 20 years; obesity is just climbing like this,
11:24 it's just taking off like a jet taking off,
11:28 just like that. And we say well it's genetic,
11:30 genetics haven't changed in 30 years,
11:34 it's just climbing obesity rates are.
11:36 We're eating way too much you know the Bible says
11:38 'do unto others as you would have them do unto
11:41 on you.' You often think about that when
11:43 I'm talking with the overweight people or when
11:46 I'm dealing with myself. You know do unto others
11:50 there they are starving and I'm eating too much
11:52 and people say, well you can't send the food
11:55 over there, but you could send the money
11:57 you are spending on that food, food isn't free.
12:00 And if we just thought about that when
12:03 we are eating and denied our self, you know,
12:07 if we fast that evening meal and took the savings
12:11 and send it for disaster and famine relief.
12:15 What an impact our country could make today
12:18 on world wide hunger and we help
12:23 ourselves too. And that's the blessing of that.
12:27 So, when you talk about nutrition and eating
12:29 as it relates to weight control are there certain
12:31 foods that we should eat or not eat
12:34 when we are trying to lose weight?
12:36 No there are many diets that people talk about,
12:40 they talk about counting calories and this and that.
12:43 I don't think I have met many people that can count
12:47 calories for a long time successfully.
12:52 It's much better to switch the food you eat
12:56 and to go to foods that are less calorically dense,
13:01 if that have higher fiber that are more natural
13:05 and then eat until you're full. But, not snack,
13:09 not eat a big evening meal preferably if
13:12 you are overweight no evening meal.
13:15 And you will find that your weight will go,
13:17 where it needs to. One thing that we find is if
13:19 people are dieting but they are eating high
13:22 fat foods that food goes in through the lips
13:27 to the hips just like that. Whereas if we can switch
13:32 them to 'whole food whole' you know the best
13:35 food for someone that's overweight to eat
13:39 is to go down the road to the farmer's field
13:41 and pick it out of the field and then eat it
13:44 or it doesn't have to be raw they can cook it
13:47 that's fine. But, if you have fresh fruit
13:50 and you have fresh vegetables you are going
13:53 to lose weight as I often say if you want to stay
13:58 out of a box don't eat out of a box and it really
14:03 does help when you are losing weight.
14:06 If you get your food in the produce section
14:08 primarily and only a small amount in the other
14:12 sections your weight is just gonna drift down
14:15 to where it needs to be provided you are
14:18 eating regularly that will take care of it.
14:22 The concept of eating from the produce section,
14:24 when I implemented that into my own life
14:27 I found that I was little nervous about my grocery
14:30 bill because the price of a pineapple or
14:34 fresh fruits and fresh vegetables they are fairly
14:36 expensive but as I began to do that
14:38 I realized my grocery bill was actually going
14:41 down a little bit because I was not buying
14:44 as many boxes and bags and packages
14:47 as I had been before and my weight did eventually
14:51 go down but it took time and
14:53 that was most frustrating.
14:55 Do you know the important thing I think
14:56 with weight control is this don't get in a hurry,
15:00 don't get in a hurry and the most important
15:03 way that you will ever lose is the first five pounds.
15:08 If you lose five pounds, just five,
15:10 that's all five pounds and keep it off,
15:14 keep it off just that five, you will lower your
15:18 risk of obesity associated cancers by 50 percent.
15:23 The reason for that as you shifted the balance
15:26 completely if you lose five pounds to keep that
15:30 five pounds off, you've either got to continue
15:32 to exercise more or eat less,
15:36 if you don't you're gonna regain it.
15:38 So, just that five pound weight loss will drop
15:42 your risk of obesity associated cancers
15:45 by 50 percent, it's amazing, just small changes
15:48 make a big difference. Now it may take more
15:51 weight loss to work on those joints,
15:54 it will probably take more weight loss to work
15:57 on your blood pressure although the first five
15:59 to ten pounds really does drop the blood pressure.
16:02 It may take more weight to reverse diabetes
16:06 because right following that obesity take off
16:10 or were we just having huge epidemic of obesity
16:14 right behind it, just nip and tuck right behind
16:16 it is diabetes. And it may take a little more weight
16:20 loss than five pounds but you know I found people
16:23 come in that first five to ten pounds if they are
16:27 type II diabetic will often turn off their diabetes,
16:31 now they avoid medicine, they keep working on it,
16:35 they are golden and that's why we want, we want
16:37 to reverse that illness all of them and it's,
16:41 it's really that first five pounds that makes
16:43 the difference, but if you gain it back oh my,
16:49 it brings all its friends with it and then you
16:53 just zoom right up. I often tell people don't have
16:57 a goal weight have a ceiling weight.
17:00 You drop to a certain point and then say I'm never
17:04 gonna go over this way ever.
17:07 And that's really helpful because it's that regain
17:10 and that rebound that really
17:12 hurts you on the long haul.
17:14 So, we don't have to lose tremendous amounts
17:17 of weight we need to focus on losing some weight
17:20 and actually keeping that off for a lifetime.
17:23 Absolutely, that's the most important thing.
17:26 Lose a bit of weight and keep it off that makes
17:30 the difference because to keep it off
17:32 you have to change your lifestyle.
17:35 And, and it truly is a lifestyle change,
17:37 certainly it has been in my own life.
17:39 What role does physical activity play
17:42 with regards to weight control?
17:44 Well you remember my story about the man
17:47 and his new car, if he would have just driven
17:49 that car around the block a few more times
17:51 then he could have filled his tank or at least filled
17:54 that little more nearly full and the same is true
17:57 with us, if we exercise regularly we can eat more
18:02 and I am telling you I like to eat.
18:04 It's one of my favorite things to do but I have
18:07 found the weeks that I don't get exercise if I
18:11 eat until I am full I am starting to carry weight
18:15 around with me that I don't want to,
18:17 and you know it's that weight around the
18:19 middle and that's where we tend to put it
18:21 on that really gets us in trouble.
18:23 It's the weight around the middle,
18:26 it's what gives us diabetes,
18:28 the weight around the middle it's what gives us
18:30 blood pressure problems, the weight around the
18:32 middle is what gives us heart disease and
18:35 cancer risk. You know, it's that what I call
18:40 is bureau disease, you've ever heard of bureau
18:43 disease? That's where your chest drops into your
18:46 drawers. Well, I tell you that's the worst
18:49 kind of obesity to have is bureau disease.
18:53 And it seems that many of us that's the kind
18:55 of weight we are carrying around is
18:56 right around them. That's where it settles on me,
18:59 I have to watch it or else I'll have that
19:02 bureau disease. So, when we are trying
19:05 to lose weight we need to pay attention
19:07 to our food and you talked about whole foods
19:09 whole and eating from the farmers from the
19:12 farmers market or from the produce section
19:14 of the grocery store, that's great but I tend
19:18 to put lots of toppings on my farmer's market food.
19:23 Well now you have to be careful with
19:25 those toppings. You can choose toppings
19:27 that are good for you. In fact you can put
19:30 some nuts on there and sprinkle a few nuts
19:33 on your veggie that tastes good. Those
19:35 nuts are very high in fat, but it's a good fat.
19:40 They are also high in fiber, they are high in vitamins,
19:43 minerals, they are very good for toppings.
19:46 The ones you want to watch are those cheeses
19:49 and the other types of fatty foods that will
19:55 cause problems, they will add on the pounds.
19:58 You better off just eat simple food simply
20:03 prepared. Now I tell you at first it may not taste
20:07 too good, you may have to re-educate your
20:11 taste but you know that's possible.
20:12 Before I went to medical school,
20:14 my mother was a dietician and she said to me
20:17 you know you are going to medical school and
20:19 you ought to try a low salt diet. I said sure,
20:22 I'll try a low salt diet. She put me on a
20:24 low salt diet and I want to tell you my food
20:27 tasted like cardboard I thought I was gonna die,
20:30 she said stay with it, stay with it and I did
20:34 and you know it wasn't very long until the food
20:36 tasted fine. Oh, it took me two to three weeks
20:40 but then you know I went out to one of these
20:42 church potlucks and I tasted the food
20:45 and it was terrible salty, it's what you're used to,
20:50 and over two to three weeks,
20:52 it only took Daniel two weeks you know,
20:55 but over two to three weeks you can re-educate your
20:58 taste, so that Broccoli actually has a flavor
21:00 of its own and in spite of the fact it doesn't have
21:02 the Hollandaise Sauce poured over or the cheese
21:05 sauce or whatever. It can happen and that's
21:09 what you need if you are going to lose weight
21:11 is go to that produce section and stay right
21:15 there buying those fruits and buying those
21:17 vegetables buying those grains whole grains stay
21:20 away from the refined grains because they don't
21:23 fill you up as well, they push your blood sugar up,
21:26 they push your weight up and push your cart
21:29 around the store a few extra times for the energy,
21:32 grow a garden, you know gardening is a wonderful
21:35 exercise it's one of the best. If you grow
21:39 a garden you're out there and that food taste better
21:43 if you grow it yourself, make sure you does. And
21:46 it will help you control your weight as well.
21:49 Grow a garden, can some of that fruit or freeze it,
21:53 that's very good for you and it help
21:54 with your weight, absolutely.
21:57 One of the things that helped me in my process
21:59 of trying to lose weight is I transitioned away
22:02 from drinking juice and milk and began drinking water.
22:07 Is that something that others should do?
22:10 You know the worst thing that you can do
22:12 for your body regardless to your weight the
22:15 worst thing that you can do is have juice or
22:18 soda or milk or calories between meals.
22:23 It's calories you don't need almost always
22:26 and I am telling you it will increase your rate
22:29 for all those diseases that are associated
22:31 with obesity, it's hard on your pancreas
22:34 to have foods between meals. You know it's just
22:38 not a good idea. There is a same amount of
22:40 calories in a glass of juice as there is in a can
22:44 of soda and people say well it's natural.
22:47 Well just because something is natural doesn't
22:49 mean it's good for you, okay.
22:52 Tobacco is natural, it's a natural herb but
22:56 I'm not gonna tell you to have it and juice
22:59 I would say if you are going to have juice have it
23:01 with your meal and have a small amount
23:05 four ounces don't have it between meals it's
23:09 calorically rich, calories go into your system
23:13 faster, it's harder on your system.
23:16 Here is another very important thing and this
23:18 is the juices that are sweetened.
23:23 You read the labels on those sweetened juices.
23:26 There are almost always sweetened with corn syrup.
23:29 Corn syrup or high fructose corn syrup
23:32 is interesting because the high fructose
23:35 doesn't turn off your appetite, and if you look
23:40 at the intake of sugars in this country today.
23:43 Our intake of sugars are much higher in
23:45 fact it's a little lower than it was in the 1950,
23:48 but our intake of sweeteners is much,
23:51 much higher and it's all high fructose corn syrup
23:55 which doesn't satisfy the appetite but sure
23:58 we will pack on the pounds, you want to be
24:01 careful particularly of those things
24:03 if you are trying to lose weight.
24:04 I noticed when I was trying to lose weight
24:08 that in my physical activity program
24:11 I walked that's what I did mostly but
24:13 I seem to lose weight faster once I added
24:16 to that some weight lifting, why is that?
24:20 You know it's interesting if you build muscle,
24:23 muscle burns more fat then fat does,
24:27 quite a bit more. It burns about 10 times
24:30 as much just a muscle cell sitting still burns
24:33 more calories than a fat cells stood in still.
24:37 So what you want to do is build muscle because
24:39 if you build muscle you can lose weight while
24:42 you are sleep I like that, it raises your basal
24:46 metabolic rate to have more muscle on your frame.
24:49 So lifting weights is good, walking faster is good,
24:53 anything that you can do to build your muscle
24:56 mass helps you lose weight, if you just diet
25:00 and don't exercise it is highly unlikely that you
25:04 will be able to stay in that weight loss.
25:07 You know they did an interesting experiment,
25:08 they had people take these diets
25:11 where you just drink your calories and they follow
25:16 them for two years, they could ask them one
25:18 question at the end of two years after the program
25:22 and determine with a 100 percent accuracy
25:26 who had regained their weight.
25:27 You know what that one question was?
25:28 How many hours do you watch TV?
25:32 The reason for that is when you are watching
25:34 TV you burn less calories then when you are sleeping.
25:38 Wow. Because they shift the images
25:41 so fast that it puts the brain to sleep and
25:46 your brain burns a lot of calories.
25:49 You know, there is another thing that's very
25:51 important and that is all hunger is not physical.
25:58 Now I want to tell you I know this,
26:00 when I go home from work after a hard
26:02 day and I am feeling you know you've had
26:06 those kind of days. Often, I'll go into the house
26:11 and the first thing I do is I go and I open the
26:16 refrigerator and my wife will see me
26:18 there in front of the refrigerator you know
26:20 what the first question she ask is have you had
26:23 a hard day? She knows that my hunger
26:27 is not physical, it's something else.
26:32 So many of us are over eating because we
26:35 have a hunger that needs to be fed but
26:40 it's not a physical hunger, it's a spiritual or an
26:44 emotional hunger, and if you feed an emotional
26:49 or a spiritual hunger with food you'll never be full.
26:55 You know Saint Augustine said, our hearts
26:57 were made for thee o God and they find no
27:01 rest until they find their rest in thee.
27:05 So very, very important so many of us like me,
27:10 our hungry but not for food, we're hungry for Jesus,
27:17 and only in Him can we find our hungers fulfilled
27:20 and lose the weight, we need to be healthy.
27:26 So, aside from physical activity and nutrition
27:30 and water and all of these other things making
27:33 sure that we are in tune with our emotional
27:36 and our spiritual health will be helpful
27:41 for long-term weight control?
27:42 Absolutely, that's so very, very important and many
27:46 of my obese patients, I don't talk to them
27:49 about their food; I talk to them about their
27:53 need for their Lord and Savior.
27:57 Thank you for joining us today on
27:59 'Wonderfully Made' this topic is certainly
28:01 interesting to me and I appreciate you
28:03 sharing it with us Dr. Howe thank you.


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