Working The Dream

The Interview

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Eric Kelly (Host)


Series Code: WTD

Program Code: WTD000003A

00:30 Hello and welcome to "Working the Dream"
00:34 I'm your host Eric Kelly and today we're going
00:36 to share tips on how you can ace your next job interview.
00:42 Now let's look at how you got here...
00:45 The recruiter or the hiring manager thought enough about
00:49 the resume that you sent in to take a closer look at you...
00:53 Great start!
00:54 Now you might have even gotten a screening call
00:57 which further peaked their interest... Good job!
01:01 Now, this is the do or die moment...
01:05 Your interview goals are to ensure that you make the
01:09 best presentation of your talents and abilities.
01:14 Now, I think our next friend should have asked for some help
01:18 before his interview, you be the judge...
01:29 Has my 4 o'clock arrived yet?
01:32 Um hm, alrighty...
01:34 Ohh, they told me to come in here - you must be the
01:36 Mr. Martin they been telling me about... Man, oh man,
01:39 this looks like a good day for me!
01:42 Jonas Martin and you are...?
01:44 GRANT, but everybody call me "G-stacks,"
01:47 you can call me whatever you want, man,
01:48 because you the man with the job that's gonna make
01:50 me HAP-PY, I feel good today!
01:53 Yeah, my brother!
01:54 Tell me a little about yourself.
01:56 Man okay I tell ya, I'm the slam dunk champion,
01:58 the chess champion, the checker champion,
01:59 I am the little product on the neighborhood,
02:01 I got the highest score on caller duty.
02:02 What else you want to know, my brother?
02:04 All right, let's skip that.
02:05 Why did you apply for the
02:08 position that we have here today?
02:10 Why? What? Look, I need some money,
02:12 the G-notes, the C-notes,
02:14 I need the paycheck, that's why I'm here brother.
02:16 I need - I got pockets, but ain't nothin in 'em.
02:18 Um, a couple of things...
02:21 I'm looking at your resume and, by the way,
02:25 could you remove those sunglasses please?
02:27 Aw man, am I bad, my bad...
02:28 Man it was sunny outside today - Ooo
02:31 Man, the doctor told me I gotta protect these for your eyes,
02:34 ya know what I'm sayin, so I had to wear these things,
02:36 but I think they'll stay on my head.
02:38 Don't worry about it, I got it together.
02:39 By the way, on your over to the interview,
02:41 you didn't run into any traffic jams or anything, did you?
02:43 I gotta apologize about that, see - I set my clock for 3.
02:47 Well what happened when I woke up, I found out the
02:50 batteries had died, man, and the dog... wait, the cat chased
02:54 the dog, took the other alarm clock down the hall
02:56 that was tied to his collar, collar you know,
02:58 and the neighbor was supposed to be my backup alarm,
03:00 but they fell asleep too.
03:01 All right, all right, we just have to get through
03:03 this interview.
03:05 Now the position that we're talking about is that of
03:11 junior analyst. Um hm
03:13 And actually your work experience is not too bad.
03:17 Uh, it's pretty good.
03:20 You got four colleges, 6 different majors.
03:23 Just a hint Mr. Grant, when you're applying for a job,
03:27 you don't need to list every college you went to,
03:30 and everything you studied, just the last college
03:32 you attended and the last course
03:35 of study that you graduated from.
03:37 See the bottom line was, see I didn't know
03:39 which position was going to get me the most money,
03:41 you know, bang for the bucks, so I decide study
03:44 the whole thing - be well rounded - that's my game.
03:46 I got it all - the degrees.
03:48 Now I see also that you studied theology.
03:54 Now pastors, as a rule, don't make a lot of money.
03:57 What was your thinking there?
03:59 Well first, I don't look like a pastor today, but man,
04:01 you watch TV man?
04:03 Them pastors be making some big dollar bills, y'all.
04:06 Selling snake oil, prayer cloths, splinters from the
04:11 tree of life and all that stuff, so if I can't make it
04:13 in the real world, I'm gonna make some money as a pastor,
04:15 that's what I'm trying to say.
04:16 I understand, I understand.
04:17 Don't you worry about it.
04:19 What makes you think that you're a good fit
04:20 for this particular position?
04:22 Man, I got the experience, I got the education,
04:25 plus I bring some swag-eye, you know, nobody in this
04:28 company so far that I've seen got swagin.
04:30 This company needs some swagger that the
04:32 G- stack brings to the table.
04:34 This is not swagger. Um hm
04:35 Sadly, there's no particular position that requires swagger.
04:39 So it's going to be a little tough for us to kind of
04:43 place you because your skill set is a little different.
04:48 Yo man... how long is it going to take man?
04:50 I been, I got 7-1/2 minutes, 8-1/2 minutes you been talking
04:54 trying to fit me in, but I parked in a 10 minute
04:56 parking slot man, in 1-1/2 minutes I'm gonna
04:59 get towed - how long is it gonna take man?
05:00 Well actually, our interview is really quite finished.
05:03 We're pretty much done here, and I want to thank you
05:05 for coming in.
05:07 Okay now, while I'm with you, I have 30 seconds more.
05:09 While I'm leaving though, don't forget this man.
05:11 See I got it, G-stack got what you need,
05:14 what this company needs and the best decision
05:16 you could make, sorry about the glasses, is to fit me
05:19 into this office... you know what I'm saying.
05:20 You gonna need what I got, and you got what I need.
05:22 I'm out, my brother, don't forget me,
05:24 don't forget me. Call me!
05:32 Okay, let's be real about this, "Grant G-stacks" has about
05:37 an icicle's chance in a forest fire of getting
05:40 hired for this position.
05:42 Grant violated all of the rules for job interview etiquette.
05:47 Mr. Martin has already written him off for this job.
05:50 With his dress, his lingo, his demeanor,
05:55 Grant, as cool as he thinks he is, just wasted
06:00 an hour out of his day and Mr. Martin's too.
06:04 Now, let's examine Cole's approach to preparing
06:08 for the interview and see if he can do better
06:11 than our friend Grant... Should be easy!
06:18 Loud sigh...we really need to do a better job
06:22 with our HR process. "G-stacks?" Wow.
06:27 Phone rings... Yes?
06:31 Cole Elliot is early for the interview.
06:34 Oh, thank you, thank you, send him in.
06:43 Cole, how are you? I'm good, thank you.
06:45 Please have a seat. Thank you sir.
06:46 Good to see you. Yeah
06:48 Thank you for coming in and thank you for
06:51 coming in so early. Thank you sir.
06:52 We will try not to take up too much of your time.
06:54 Don't worry sir, it's your time - don't worry. Alrighty.
06:56 Looked at your resume and it's very solid, very strong.
07:01 I need to tell you, I'm not a fan of
07:04 traditional interview techniques, all right?
07:07 So we're going to change things up just a little bit.
07:09 Okay. Great.
07:10 Uh, you like basketball?
07:11 Love it sir. Great, great.
07:13 Let's suppose I'm the coach of the basketball team,
07:16 and we're hiring you to be our point guard, all right?
07:20 What I need to know is... are you a shoot-first
07:24 kind of point guard or are you a distributor - making sure that
07:28 everybody gets their shots, everybody gets what they need
07:32 so the team can be successful?
07:34 Hmm, well honestly sir, it depends on what the team
07:38 needs, I mean - I believe in preparation, so first I'll try
07:44 to understand the needs of the team or, in this case,
07:47 the company and I'll learn the opponent's weaknesses
07:50 and strengths and I'll use that on a play-by-play basis...
07:53 And if I need to score, I can do that;
07:56 if I need to make my teammates shine, I can do that also.
08:00 And, no matter the situation, it's all about the team
08:04 and what the team needs to succeed.
08:06 All right, great, great!
08:08 Give me some idea of what you think are your
08:12 character strengths and then give me an example
08:15 of how you would use them.
08:17 Hm, well I feel that I have a great attention to detail,
08:21 and I strive for accuracy and for best presentation.
08:24 And, my last boss assigned me on a project to improve
08:28 our accuracy and I found multiple holes that I
08:35 tried to fix and so made some recommendations
08:39 and since those changes were implemented
08:42 98% of the reports that were sent to management
08:44 never came back for accuracy errors. Excellent, excellent!
08:48 Tell me now... who is your favorite basketball player?
08:50 "Kobe Bryant," sir.
08:52 Kobe Bryant - why is he your favorite?
08:53 Because he gives it all, you know, sir, and he gives it
08:57 all to win. Um hm, yeah, um hm.
08:59 Do you see yourself as sort of a corporate Kobe Bryant?
09:04 No sir. Why not?
09:05 Well, I don't mind sharing the ball, sir and that's like my
09:09 dad always says, "You can have all the success you want
09:12 if you give all the success to other people." Um hm, um hm.
09:16 Um hm, kind of a "Zig Ziglar" philosophy, uh huh.
09:20 Your dad is a very wise man, you should listen to him.
09:22 Thank you sir, thank you.
09:24 Well, we don't have much more and you've done a fine job.
09:27 Glad you came in... we will be in touch, thank you!
09:30 Alrighty. Thank you, thank you sir.
09:31 Take care. You too sir.
09:37 Ha, ha, ha - Kobe Bryant...? whatever happened to
09:42 Michael Jordan? Those young people!
09:48 Now Cole values getting help from a mentor,
09:51 and he got some pretty good advice too.
09:53 If he follows it, he should do well in his interview.
09:57 Okay, let's think about what we just saw...
10:01 We've already established that the interviewer must like you
10:04 in order for you to get the job.
10:06 Cole definitely impressed Mr. Martin and by all
10:10 indications has a shot at landing a pretty cool job.
10:15 So let's look at what needs to be done prior to
10:19 the initial shaking of hands with an interviewer.
10:23 Research the company on the internet.
10:25 Prepare questions to ask.
10:26 Dress one level above the position you're applying for.
10:30 Arrive 20 minutes early.
10:31 Pray silently for confidence.
10:33 Before you go to your interview,
10:36 you need to do a little research.
10:38 Interviewers love applicants that walk into the room
10:42 and have an idea about what company
10:45 they're interviewing with.
10:46 So, go to the internet and find out as much
10:50 as you can about the company.
10:51 Find out about their products, their goods, their services;
10:56 in fact, read any little news clips about their company.
11:00 Know what they make, how they make their money,
11:04 and if they're publicly traded, it doesn't hurt to know
11:07 a little bit about their stock price and their stock history.
11:11 The second thing you want to research is the position.
11:14 What position are you applying for?
11:16 If online, in any way, you can find out what this position
11:20 does and what's some of its responsibilities are...
11:23 In fact, if you don't have the specific information
11:27 for that company, if you can find general information
11:30 about that position - when you're talking to the
11:32 recruiter, it helps them understand that you know
11:36 what you're asking for.
11:39 Then you might want to do a little looking at the pay...
11:42 How is the pay structure?
11:43 How much do they pay for that position?
11:46 And, you can go online and find so many different
11:49 websites that kind of give you a general idea of how much
11:53 is paid for each position.
11:55 Now, the recruiter, the interviewer - they are going
11:58 to have discussions about pay and you should have an idea
12:02 about how much you're going to be asking for
12:05 because they're going to ask YOU what are you looking for?
12:09 Now here's the interesting thing about pay...
12:11 The first one that talks about money loses and let me explain.
12:15 The interviewer does not want to tell you how much the job pays
12:20 because if they ask you how much you're willing to work for
12:24 and it's less, that's probably where you're going to start.
12:27 You are trying not to say how much you'll settle for
12:31 because you want to know how much they'll pay.
12:33 So there's a little bit of a dance around pay.
12:36 The first person that blinks loses...
12:39 But, if they ask you how much you are definitely willing
12:42 to work for, it's good to have done the research,
12:45 gone to the internet and find out what's the average
12:49 pay for that position and don't pick the high end of the scale,
12:53 pick the middle of the scale.
12:54 If it's between 80,000 and 95,000, find a number in
12:59 the middle somewhere... 85,000, 87,000,
13:03 but make sure that you have an idea of what would
13:06 work for you and don't be greedy.
13:09 Understand the culture that you're going into.
13:11 Also, look at that culture and see if that's a place that
13:16 YOU would feel comfortable working.
13:19 Ultimately in this process, you must pray for discernment
13:24 and God's leading.
13:25 Every job that looks good on a recruiting board
13:30 or on paper, may not be what God wants for you.
13:34 God knows whether or not that company is going to be around
13:37 He knows if there's going to be a merger and the job
13:40 that you're applying for is going to go away in 8-9 months,
13:44 a year or two once you get settled in.
13:47 God knows everything about what's going to happen
13:50 to that company... so pray for His leading and guidance.
13:53 He may tell you - apply somewhere else.
13:57 Listen to His voice - it's the guarantee of success
14:01 in your life.
14:02 Now, let's look at what we need to do on the day
14:07 of an interview.
14:09 "Acing an interview" means that you want to start
14:13 the day of the interview with a good mood.
14:17 Read promises from God's word.
14:20 One of the verses I love is: "I can do all things
14:24 through Christ who strengthens me."
14:26 Spend time that morning, if you never spend time
14:30 in the word and talking to God, no matter how
14:34 talented, gifted, educated, bright, articulate,
14:37 no matter what your gifts are - unless God is
14:41 blessing them that day, may not be such a great day.
14:45 So spend time with Him and get that divine connection
14:48 before you do anything else.
14:50 Now you also may want to make sure the blood is flowing,
14:54 the energy is there, so you might want to take a brisk walk
14:58 and kind of get the heart pumping and the blood moving
15:01 and, by the way, that kind of keeps you in a better
15:04 positive frame of mind.
15:06 You might want to work out, you might want to stretch
15:08 a little bit and kind of get pumped up, after the
15:13 walk and breathe some good lungfuls of air...
15:17 You know, really make sure that you're alive - all the
15:20 time communicating with your Father, your Higher Power.
15:24 Now meditation and prayer can also help you relax.
15:27 This is not a day to get nervous.
15:29 In fact, think about this... If God wants you to have this
15:34 job, you will have it, so turn it over to Him.
15:38 In your prayer, in your meditation,
15:40 ask Him for the peace to trust Him.
15:43 So this isn't a moment where you've got to make it all
15:46 happen - kind of relax, sit back, you've done all the
15:51 work that you can do and let God do what He does.
15:55 Give yourself a pep talk...
15:57 No matter what happens - before, after or during this interview,
16:01 you are still a favorite child of God.
16:04 You're still a person of value, no matter WHAT is said
16:09 about you, no matter what is said to you.
16:11 So give yourself a pep talk, remind yourself who you are
16:14 and WHOSE you are.
16:16 Sing a favorite song - in the car belt one out,
16:19 I mean let it rip, enjoy it, clap your hands,
16:22 let yourself FEEL that you're ALIVE!
16:25 Remember, no matter what happens here, you're still going to be
16:28 there a person of value and God
16:30 is still going to take care of you.
16:33 Recite your favorite inspirational quote.
16:36 Let your ears hear your mouth say something that moves you.
16:42 Now, how do you want to appear during your interview?
16:46 Well first of all, you need to be well-dressed.
16:49 The tip is - you need to dress a level above the position.
16:53 So, let's say you're applying for a position as
16:56 an accounting supervisor, you need to dress like the
17:00 accounting manager would dress.
17:02 Now I know when we talk about issues of dress,
17:04 people feel this is their last area of individuality...
17:09 Well, that may be true, but it is also
17:12 how you will be judged.
17:13 So dress above the position that you're applying for.
17:17 It makes an incredible impact on the people
17:21 that are interviewing you.
17:23 The next thing is - be natural, just be yourself.
17:26 The nervousness - let's give that to God, let's trust Him
17:30 to make the way straight for us, but be natural.
17:32 Just be you - if your hands move a certain way,
17:34 you talk a certain way, just be who you are
17:37 because that's going to come across as you being real
17:40 to the person that's talking to you.
17:42 ALWAYS be on time.
17:45 There's nothing that sends a message to the potential
17:48 employer about how you're going to be as an employee
17:51 as someone who is late; in fact, be early!
17:57 Now this might sound a little hokey, but if you're early,
18:01 many times it signals to your employer or your prospective
18:05 employer - this is somebody that is going to be early to work.
18:09 They're really eager, they really want this thing.
18:11 So always, always be on time.
18:14 In fact, if you're going to be late, see if you could
18:17 postpone the interview.
18:19 But on-time sends a big strong message to them about
18:23 how serious you are about working for them
18:26 and how serious you'll be about work once they hire you.
18:30 Stay company-focused with everything that you say
18:34 to the interviewer.
18:36 Getting them to focus on how your specific skills
18:40 can help them in their organization.
18:43 Ask questions based on what you've learned,
18:45 the research that you did about the company and be ready
18:49 to elaborate on any information that you put on your resume...
18:53 which is why we said, when you write the resume,
18:56 make sure that you're absolutely perfectly honest.
19:01 Now, practice makes perfect and perfect practice makes perfect.
19:08 You need to practice your interviewing skills even
19:11 when there is no pending interview.
19:13 You need to keep these up, so here's what you do...
19:16 Ask a family member or a professional friend
19:20 or a mentor or anybody that you can coerce to put you
19:25 through your paces prior to an important interview.
19:29 Skilled interviewers will pose behavioral interview questions
19:33 and they're going to ask you to describe
19:36 specific examples of an experience.
19:39 In these situations, your response can easily last
19:43 much longer than 90 seconds, but try to keep the answers
19:47 short and concise.
19:49 The five most common interview questions include:
19:53 #1. Biggie - so tell me about your weaknesses and strengths.
19:59 Now some people answer those in the most ridiculous ways.
20:04 We heard one that said, "Tell me about your weaknesses,"
20:07 and the person responded, "Well one of my weaknesses
20:09 is that I'm a workaholic and I work so hard that my
20:13 employer has to tell me to slow down."
20:16 Yeah - we're buying that one.
20:19 Or tell me about your strengths, and you elaborate on how
20:22 wonderful and fantastic you are.
20:24 Now the interviewer is expecting to hear you talk
20:27 about your strengths and weaknesses,
20:29 but they want you to be real.
20:31 They want you to be honest and there's probably an area that
20:34 you're weak in, not a major one, that you're able to
20:37 share and kind of let them know what kind of a employee
20:41 they are getting.
20:42 Second question - happens all the time...
20:45 "Why did you quit or get terminated
20:48 from your previous position?"
20:50 Now be very careful when you answer this question.
20:55 If you answer it based on relationships,
20:57 it could be a problem.
20:59 "Well I left my last job because my boss was an idiot."
21:02 Or, "I left my last job because I hated my coworkers."
21:07 Or, "I left my last job because
21:08 the people there just didn't get me."
21:10 And do you see what you just told the interviewer?
21:13 You just told them that whether it's your boss, coworkers,
21:17 people that you work with, you're not going to a
21:20 good job fit.
21:21 Now remember, their job is to make sure that you fit
21:24 into the position they are interviewing you for...
21:27 So why should they choose you?
21:29 #3. Why should we hire you?
21:33 Make this a good one.
21:34 Ah, you can use terms like "career growth, interesting
21:38 company," there are a lot of answers you can use;
21:41 however, please do not say, "You should hire me
21:44 because this position pays a lot of money,
21:47 and I'd like to make a lot of money."
21:49 Now that may be absolutely true,
21:51 but there are better ways to say that.
21:53 In fact, one of the best ways I've heard about
21:55 someone that wants to grow and develop is simply saying that.
21:59 "Hey, I looked at your company and it looked like
22:02 an organization where I could really grow and develop
22:05 to the best of my abilities."
22:07 Now, here's where they want to find out if you know
22:11 how to problem-solve and deal with issues.
22:14 So they're going to ask you, "Tell me about a problem
22:16 that you had with a previous supervisor, team member
22:20 or employee."
22:21 And what they want to hear from you here is...
22:24 4. How do you handle adversity?
22:27 So what you might tell them... "Well I had a supervisor
22:30 who was rather skeptical about me working a certain project
22:35 and I was able to win them over by:
22:39 a. Doing all my work well.
22:41 b. Winning in small projects.
22:44 c. Finally get a chance to show my skills and abilities
22:48 on a bigger project.
22:50 And from thereon out, they were able to use me in some
22:52 pretty important projects."
22:54 Now what you just told the interviewer there is that you
22:57 grew and developed and instead of fighting that person,
23:00 you were able to sell them on what you brought to the table.
23:04 5. This is a biggie... Tell me about a time when you
23:09 made a mistake.
23:11 Please be honest... Now I'm probably not
23:14 going to tell you about the biggest mistake I ever made
23:17 because that might scare you just a bit,
23:19 but we've all made mistakes, we are human beings.
23:23 So pick one that didn't turn into an incredible disaster,
23:25 preferably one that you were able to fix once you
23:28 were aware of it and share that with them.
23:31 What they really want to know is...
23:34 Are you human?
23:37 Now, during the interview, don't talk too much.
23:43 The average interviewer's attention span looks
23:47 something like this...
23:48 As you begin speaking, the interviewer is listening
23:52 with nearly full attention, then after about 10 seconds,
23:56 he begins listening with less than intensely.
23:58 After about 60 seconds, his mind begins to wander
24:02 and he is remembering he has to pickup the children
24:04 from school and he's devoting
24:06 less than half his attention to you.
24:09 Now, the interviewer starts asking questions about
24:13 your responses or begins formulating his next interview
24:17 question while he's thinking.
24:19 Now after you've been speaking for 90 seconds without
24:21 any interruption... Oo, oo, oo, ooo,
24:23 the interviewer is barely listening at all.
24:26 So when you're attempting to sell yourself,
24:28 don't take the conversation and run away with it
24:31 because they really might not be listening.
24:34 The last thing they're going to ask you is...
24:38 "Well, do you have any questions?"
24:41 Now to be impressive, you want to ask about some
24:44 issue that during the research about that company...
24:48 that you learned or maybe even something personally
24:51 while you have that conversation.
24:52 It's so impressive when you ask about...
24:56 "Well what's the biggest push this company
24:58 is making this year or what's the focus
25:01 of the organization this year?"
25:02 "Where could my talents best be used to
25:05 make this company win this year?"
25:06 Man, does that sound like you're ready to go with this!
25:09 And, here's when you make it personal...
25:11 Since people like to talk about themselves,
25:14 ask them, "What in this company made it so good for you?"
25:18 This interviewer, who obviously is like everybody else,
25:22 once they start sharing why they enjoy it,
25:25 you'll get an insight not only into the company,
25:28 but you'll get an insight into them.
25:30 Remember, talking about ourselves is most peoples
25:34 favorite subject.
25:35 At any rate, your final questions should reflect
25:38 interest in being an asset to the company.
25:42 Now, here's a set of questions that will completely
25:45 turn the interviewer off at the end of your
25:48 wonderful interview, here's one...
25:50 "Do you have any questions for me?"
25:53 "Yes, I'd like to know how many sick days you give?"
25:56 I'm pretty sure that signals, you're not even sick
26:00 at the moment, but you're planning on it
26:02 as soon as you get there and get hired.
26:05 "How many vacation days do you have?"
26:08 Well, you haven't been hired yet and you're still
26:12 trying to figure out how soon you can take time off.
26:15 It's not a bad thing to do, but it is simply giving the
26:18 wrong message to the interviewer.
26:22 Remember, you need to focus on what you can do
26:26 for them, not necessarily what they can do for you.
26:30 Finally, panel types come in different sizes and different
26:33 forms - sometimes it's a one-on-one interview,
26:36 sometimes it's a two-person interview,
26:40 and occasionally it's a panel interview where they all
26:43 line up in front of you and ask you questions.
26:46 Let me tell you, no matter what, God is with you.
26:49 Well, that's all the time that we have today, friends.
26:52 So use the information we shared with you today,
26:55 and know for sure that your next interview
26:59 will be an impressive and blessed one.
27:02 Remember, you are powerless over what they can do to you,
27:06 but they are powerless over what God will do for you.
27:11 This is Eric Kelly, until next time,
27:13 keep "Working the Dream"


Revised 2017-08-22