Heavens Declare, The

The Great Controversy

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Participants: Jim Burr

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00:23 Welcome to Heavens Declare. I'm Jim Burr and we're here to
00:28 share more programs. The title of our program today would be
00:32 The Great Controversy and it's a space story. It starts in
00:39 space, outside of the earth. But before we get to that someone
00:46 was asking me just today what about these planets that are
00:51 headed toward earth that are going to knock earth off it's
00:55 orbit? And it's always the same thing that's been going around
00:59 the internet for years. There's some planet coming our way. NASA
01:03 knows about it. They won't tell anybody because their afraid
01:10 people will freak out over this. Actually in February 2016 a man
01:14 was actually killed in India. You can go on the internet and
01:18 see the picture of a hole in the ground where an asteroid came
01:22 and yes there are, as we've talked about before, thousands
01:27 of asteroids that cross the orbit of our earth. But right
01:32 now we don't know of any that are going to crash and NASA is
01:38 looking for these things. In fact, there was one in, I think
01:43 it was, February 2014. It was a tremendous thing. It hit Russia.
01:48 Every year we have several that get quite close to the earth,
01:53 come within the orbit of our geosynchronous satellites. These
01:57 satellites are broadcast at 23,000 miles out there and we
02:02 had one in 2016 that actually came inside the orbit of the
02:07 geosynchronous satellites. There's actually been a space
02:12 watch program. NASA has a space watch program. You could get a
02:18 grant of $25,000. University of North Dakota did and there's a
02:22 doctor in Flagstaff, Arizona that bought one of our big 18
02:26 inch telescopes and I've been down to see it. It's in an
02:30 observatory and he'll go around and take a picture of the sky
02:33 and completely cover the sky. Then four hours later he takes
02:37 the same picture. Then he goes to bed and next morning, he gets
02:42 up and he puts it on a computer. All the stars will be there but
02:46 an asteroid moving our way would cause a streak on the screen.
02:50 He's discovered over 500 of these earth-approaching
02:53 asteroids. So NASA is trying to find them. I mean, we could get
02:59 hit today. But every day of creation was very good so I
03:03 think this is something that has happened since the late heavy
03:09 bombardment which happened since creation, probably at the time
03:13 of the flood. We talked about that in one of our programs. If
03:16 you have an interest in that you might want to get this series
03:23 from 3ABN, The Heavens Declare. The first graphic we have I want
03:30 to show you a little bit about what I do and that's design
03:33 telescopes, invent telescopes. This is the binocular telescope.
03:37 It's a six inch. So you get a six-inch telescope for each eye
03:41 and you see the lady looking down there into the scope.
03:45 You can see the two eye pieces. So you actually can look
03:50 straight up by looking straight down. You see it's got handle
03:54 bars so you can scan around the sky. The next graphic shows a
04:01 larger instrument. There's a 10- inch binocular telescope on the
04:08 right and then the 14-inch on the left. This is kind of a
04:12 world famous guy known in the field of astronomy, Tony Hallis,
04:15 and he bought the 10-inch telescope and then I began
04:19 getting e-mails from him. One day there was a message saying
04:22 he would never, ever, ever, ever look through a one eye piece
04:25 telescope again. Another day he sent me an e-mail saying that
04:29 he had more aesthetic pleasure in three nights with this 10
04:33 inch binocular than he did with a 25-inch telescope. He came
04:36 back and traded it in on a larger binocular. But I want to
04:41 show you the scope that he had and he said that this 10-inch
04:45 scope out performed this humongous 25-inch scope that you
04:49 see on the screen. Can you imagine moving one of those
04:52 instruments? That is a major job moving and setting it up and
04:56 dismantling it and he said that little 10-inch binocular
05:00 actually out-performed and he had more aesthetic pleasure in
05:04 three nights than he had in a whole year with that big
05:08 monstrosity. Then he got the 14-inch binocular telescope.
05:13 You see when you use just one eye you get eye fatigue, your
05:17 eye gets tired when you just look with one eye. But with the
05:21 binocular using both eyes... You walk around for a day like this
05:24 you can see what life looks like You see more than double
05:28 actually and your eyes dilate and the longer you look the more
05:35 you see. So a binocular telescope, there's nothing like
05:39 that. So today we want to talk about the great controversy.
05:44 This is something that started in heaven and you can find this
05:50 in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 which talk about war in heaven.
05:56 So I'd like to read from Isaiah 14. In verse 12 it says...
06:29 You know, like God himself. Well Lucifer did not have the ability
06:33 to create. If we go over to Ezekiel 28, it's always easy to
06:39 remember that, you take Isaiah 14 and just double it, Ezekiel
06:44 28 tells more about this. In verse 13 it says:...
07:31 And so we see there was war in heaven. The Bible tells us
07:35 Michael and his angels fought against Satan and his angels.
07:40 It may have been more a battle of rhetoric, a war of words,
07:44 because you see Satan using the I, I, I, will do that. The Bible
07:49 tells us he's the accuser of the brethren and apparently the
07:56 accuser of God. So he was a trouble maker and he talked to
08:02 angels. We have 10,000 times 10,000 and thousands and
08:05 thousands of angels and Lucifer had apparently had conversation
08:10 probably with every one of those angels
08:12 because the Bible tells us that
08:14 one-third of the angels followed him, left God, and two-thirds of
08:21 the angels decided to stay with God. I had a problem in my work
08:27 place some years ago and I had a fellow that was causing a lot
08:31 of problems in the work place and when I'd be gone on weekends
08:35 lecturing I'd come back and I had some disgruntled employees
08:39 and I eventually lost about a third of my employees. I wasn't
08:43 really sure how it happened, who was the trouble maker at the
08:46 very beginning but a third of them left and about two-thirds
08:49 of them stayed. Now he was obviously talking about me and
08:55 whatever it was he was saying and the employees that stayed,
08:59 they heard him talking about me they'd be wondering was this
09:04 true? Was this true? Was there any truth to this? So I would
09:08 assume that what Lucifer was saying about God to all the
09:13 angels, he was trying to recruit everybody. He wanted everybody
09:14 to go with him but two-thirds stayed with God but in their
09:19 minds wouldn't they be wondering was there any truth to what they
09:25 they heard. So we had war in heaven. When you have a conflict
09:31 like that you need a jury to decide who's true, who's right,
09:38 who's wrong. Satan was the accuser of the brethren. If God
09:43 had just destroyed Satan... I mean, he knew he was right, he
09:47 knew the devil was wrong, he could have just zapped him and
09:50 he'd have been gone. But in a court room setting, I want to
09:54 think about this great controversy from the picture of
09:57 a court room. In the court room setting, you've got to have
10:03 somebody neutral. You've got to have the jury. You know how
10:07 careful they are in selecting a jury, they're so careful about
10:12 that. They quiz them, they question them. Do you believe
10:15 in the death penalty? Have you read the newspapers? Do you know
10:19 anything about the case? They're very, very careful in selecting
10:23 a jury. Well you've got to find somebody neutral, somebody that
10:26 isn't starting out with opinion. Well there was nobody in the
10:29 the universe that was neutral. You see a third, according to
10:33 the Bible, had gone with Satan, two-thirds stayed with God. Who
10:37 is going to be the judge? God's hands were tied. He could not
10:42 destroy Lucifer because what happens in a court room if the
10:47 defendant kills the plaintiff, you see? Who's guilty? What is
10:53 the jury going to say? So God said, can't get rid of him.
10:59 We're going to have to take this court to the earth and let the
11:07 earth... You know we're a spectacle to the angels. The
11:09 angels will be watching this. Let us see what the result is,
11:15 let this play out. Let's see how bad things get with a devil in
11:20 control of the earth. He's called the god of this world.
11:24 I don't know if you knew the Bible says that, the god of this
11:26 world, small g,
11:28 OK. He's the god of this world. So here we have earth as a
11:34 court room and God is on trial here. God put himself on trial.
11:40 So we see all the misery. You see this is the most difficult
11:44 question that I hear people call in on the radio all the time.
11:48 The most difficult question pastors have to deal with is why
11:53 do bad things happen to good people? You hear people call in
11:56 and you know their heart is broken. My friend, my brother,
12:00 you know was such a good Christian and they got hit by a
12:05 train or truck or something. Or they got cancer. Starving
12:09 children, where is God? People have this question. You know
12:12 atheists even come at us with these questions. If there's a
12:15 God why are there starving children? Why is there war? Why
12:17 is there so much abuse and blood shed on this planet?
12:22 But we need to put the blame where it is, where it needs to
12:28 go and that is to Satan because he causes all the problems. Did
12:33 ever see a child that could get their brother or sister in
12:36 trouble? There are some kids that are just masters at getting
12:40 their brother and sister in trouble. So this is kind of
12:43 what's going on here on earth. The devil causes all the
12:47 problems he can cause because he knows that God's going to get
12:50 the blame. Starving children, where is God? People ask those
12:54 questions. So we see the result of misery, war and death and
12:58 destruction and disease and we see all this stuff on earth and
13:01 it's caused by Satan. God says I'm going to show you my
13:07 goodness. Moses said to the Lord let me see your glory and the
13:12 Lord said I will make my goodness pass before you.
13:15 So the Lord shows us all his beautiful creation, whether
13:19 we're talking about the universe whether we're talking about the
13:22 microscope, the mountains, the trees, the hills, the flowers,
13:25 the little children, you know, all of the things God has
13:29 created and it is so amazing. I have discovered that he has
13:33 given you 20,000 herbs and spices. The Bible says he
13:37 satisfies your mouth with good things. You know he wouldn't
13:41 have had to give you cinnamon. You like cinnamon on your rolls?
13:47 You like oregano for your pizza? You think of cumin and oregano,
13:52 all the things God has given us to just add. We wouldn't need
13:56 all of that. But it's just the goodness of God that he's given
14:00 us thousands of foods. What a creator. All the beautiful
14:06 things. He's just done everything to show us his
14:10 goodness. The Bible tells us in Romans that the goodness of the
14:15 Lord leads us to repentance and we all need to be repenting
14:19 because we're all sinners, aren't we? So in the court room
14:22 scene, this earth being the court room, the angels are
14:26 watching. We're a spectacle to the angels, we're a spectacle to
14:31 the universe. Now if God decides to solve every problem, cure
14:37 every cancer, feed every child on earth, that's tampering with
14:42 the evidence. In a court room scene, if you tamper with the
14:47 evidence, what happens? You have a mistrial. If God fixes every
14:51 problem on earth, and he does answer our prayer, I've seen him
14:55 answer prayer, I know he answers prayers, he wants to answer
14:59 prayer, but he does not solve every problem on earth because
15:03 the devil is the god of this world. Again, it's a small g.
15:07 He's the ruler of this world. If God solved every problem, that's
15:12 tampering with the evidence. We have a mistrial. You see if he
15:17 solved every problem on earth the angels who are watching us
15:22 go like huh, God says he's really bad. I don't see he is so
15:28 bad. You see the problem? God can't tamper with the evidence.
15:33 Some people have told me this really helps to understand why
15:38 bad things happen to good people you see. Once again, I've seen
15:43 God answer prayer right in front of my eyes. Some stories I can't
15:49 tell you because people might be watching who would know these
15:53 stories, but I tell you, I have seen prayers answered over and
15:58 over again. But yet this earth is a court room. God is on trial
16:04 here and God can't solve every problem, because that would be
16:12 tampering with the evidence. If we look at Revelation 12:10, it
16:19 says: And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven now is
16:23 salvation and strength and the kingdom of our God and the power
16:27 of Christ, for the accuser of the brethren is cast down which
16:31 accused them before God day and night and they overcame him by
16:36 the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony.
16:38 And they loved not their life to the death. Freedom is important
16:43 to God. Revelation 12:12, Rejoice ye heavens, woe to the
16:47 earth because Satan is cast down. Heavens rejoice, rejoice,
16:52 rejoice ye heavens, the devil is cast out of heaven but woe, woe
16:57 to the earth because he is cast down to the earth. He's very
17:04 angry because he knows that he has a short time. So along this
17:08 line, why did Jesus have to die? People say will Jesus died for
17:13 my sins. Why did Jesus have to die? I think a way of talking
17:17 about that and illustrating that and expanding on that a little
17:22 bit, you know, if you get a ticket and you go before the
17:29 judge and the judge says you know don't worry about it. We're
17:34 all about grace, come on we don't want to make anybody mad
17:40 or angry. Just be careful but don't worry about paying the
17:46 fine, OK. And that's the way some people want grace, you see.
17:52 They just want grace. They don't want to hear about the scripture
17:56 that says straight is the gate, and narrow is the way and few
18:01 there be that find it. The scripture that says there is a
18:05 holiness without which no one will see the Lord. I think that
18:10 is probably the holiness of Christ. But if the judge is just
18:14 all about grace, what kind of a planet do we live on, what kind
18:18 of a world do we live on? Don't worry, there's no penalty, you
18:25 see. Now if you get a ticket, you go before the judge, and the
18:30 judge says that will be $100 for running that red light, the
18:35 judge doesn't care who pays the fine. He doesn't care, just pay
18:39 the fine. Your very best friend could come in and write a check
18:44 and the judge is happy; the judge is happy. But if it's your
18:48 very best friend that paid the bill are you going to keep
18:54 running red lights, keep speeding? You see if you have
19:00 respect for the law because the law has some teeth, the law has
19:03 a penalty. If the judge just says, you know, don't worry
19:07 about it, it's all about grace and we don't do any penalties
19:11 here and you disregard the law you wouldn't want to live in a
19:15 place like that would you because it wouldn't be safe.
19:17 Everybody would be running red lights and nobody paying any
19:24 attention to the law. So the law has to have some teeth in it.
19:30 So, again, the judge doesn't care who pays the fine. But when
19:38 it comes to the law of God, you see, we're bankrupt, we're all
19:43 sinful. You look at Romans 5. It talks about in Adam, what
19:48 happened in Adam, it passed to all men, death and sin by one,
19:53 it passed to all of us. You and I might say why is that fair.
19:57 I wish I'd been back in the Garden of Eden. I'd like to have
20:02 a shot at that. Why is it fair for me to be condemned because
20:08 of Adam's sin. Well you read in Romans 5, five times in Romans
20:13 5 it talks about the fact that death came by one man but the
20:18 word says much more has been given to us in Christ. Much more
20:23 has been given to us in Christ. So what we lost in Adam, and we
20:27 weren't there to have a part in it but we have inherited that
20:31 through Adam. It tells us in Romans 5, five times that God
20:35 has given us much more much more in Christ. The debt for that sin
20:47 that we have committed is so great it would take the richest
20:53 person billions and billions on earth and it still wouldn't
20:58 pay the debt. But you see Jesus had credentials to pay the debt.
21:03 Now Jesus is your best friend. Do you respect the law, do you
21:08 obey the law, do you follow the law? Yes, if your best friend
21:12 gets you out of jail, your best friend gets you out of trouble,
21:16 now you have respect for the law. You see you can't run a
21:22 company or a family or a nation or a universe without law and
21:29 it's law that makes it civil, you have to have law to run
21:35 anything and everything. So therefore, you have respect for
21:40 the law because there are some teeth in the law. Now a
21:44 conversation that goes on in the Christian world. Are you going
21:51 be sinning until Jesus comes? This is a debate that goes on in
21:57 Sabbath School classes and other meetings. Some say yes, I'm just
22:01 human; I'm going to be sinning till Jesus comes. And others say
22:06 no you have to be perfect, you have to be an overcomer,
22:11 perfectly overcome before the end, the second coming. Some
22:16 thoughts I have on that I'd like to share with you. Will you be
22:22 sinning till Jesus comes? Yes and no. Yes and no. People use
22:25 the excuse and say well I'm just human, I'm just human you know.
22:32 And some use that as excuse for living a sinful life, excusing
22:38 their sins. The Bible would say making provision for the flesh.
22:43 I guess Ellen White would say that, that people are making
22:46 provision for the flesh. I'm just human. You know, I'm going
22:49 sin because I'm just human. And yes, we are human and yes we make
22:54 mistakes. We make mistakes right here trying to tape this program
22:59 because sometimes the words come out wrong and we have to go
23:01 back and redo it again. We're human, we do make mistakes.
23:04 I'd like to suggest you probably can't get in your car and drive
23:08 for a couple of hours without make some mistakes. You're going
23:11 go over the line, you're going to speed, you're not going to
23:15 a complete stop. Because we're human we make those mistakes.
23:21 So yes. But if we are planning or making provision for those
23:30 mistakes. You see that's where the grace comes in. So I guess
23:38 I would say that we are not going to be making plans to sin
23:44 until Jesus comes. We need to overcome those inherited and
23:51 cultivated tendencies to sin. We must overcome those. But we're
23:56 do we make mistakes, yes, because Ellen White tells us
23:59 that as long as life shall last we shall have self to subdue
24:05 and besetting sins to overcome. So are you going to sin till
24:09 Jesus comes? We are not going to be preparing to sin, we're
24:13 not going to be planning to sin. We're not going to be making
24:16 provisions for our sin. We're not going to be excusing our sin
24:19 and say well I'm only human and therefore, I'm going to be
24:26 sinning tell Jesus comes. So we need to pray for power to
24:32 overcome. In this program, back a ways, we were talking about
24:36 the fact that God put this incredible power in a paper clip
24:41 and in a penny. The energy in the atoms of the penny is, if
24:47 you could convert that to chemical energy, it would be
24:50 2.2 million gallons of gasoline. In a paper clip, there is enough
24:56 in those atoms to create and to make 18,000 tons of TNT, in a
25:01 paper clip. So with that kind of power, God can speak that power
25:06 into the atom. Do you think that your problems are big for him?
25:11 If even in a paper clip the energy there would be equal to
25:16 18,000 tons of TNT. We have another statement from Ellen
25:22 White where she says that Satan knows better than the children
25:26 of God the power that they can have over him when their trust
25:32 is in Christ. So yes folks, are we sinning till Jesus comes?
25:38 Yes, and no. We're human as long as life shall last we have self
25:43 to subdue, besetting sins to overcome, but folks if we are
25:47 saying well you know I know I'm a sinner and it's because I'm
25:51 human I make these mistakes. Yes, we do make mistakes, but we
25:54 don't prepare for them, we don't plan for them, we don't cherish
25:58 them, we discuss it with him, we hate them and we are longing and
26:04 praying for the day when we can be total overcomers and the
26:09 power is in Christ. I love that. Satan knows better, I mean he
26:14 knows he's defeated. Satan knows better than the children of God
26:18 the power they can have when their trust is in Christ.
26:24 The other grave concern I have folks is the Bible says love not
26:29 the world. I have a real concern because I see it in so many
26:33 families. I see people who can't get through the weekend without
26:37 a blockbuster movie and being caught up in the music and the
26:40 materialism and the sports, all the things of this world.
26:45 The Bible says love not the world and I'm afraid that people
26:50 would not enjoy heaven, the holiness of heaven. And how,
26:54 tell me how could a Christian watch a Hollywood movie with all
26:58 the violence and all the blood shed and all the profanity, when
27:02 the angels cover their faces, the angels who never sin, cover
27:05 their faces when they speak God's name. Folks, there is a
27:08 holiness without which no one will see the Lord. We need to
27:12 put away the world, the things of the world, all the things of
27:15 the world, we need to put them away. God is not going to
27:19 torture you in hell or in heaven I know Christians... I've been
27:23 their home and I've seen the Hollywood movies and I go like
27:27 they're not going to enjoy heaven if they can't get through the
27:31 weekend without watching a Hollywood movie. Well our time
27:34 is gone again. I want to thank you for watching Heavens Declare
27:38 We have more programs coming up. I just want to say thanks again.
27:42 God bless.


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