Heavens Declare, The

Star of Bethlehem

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00:24 Welcome to Heavens Declare. I'm Jim Burr sharing more of the
00:30 heavens. Today actually we are going to talk about the star of
00:36 Bethlehem. In our series sometimes we run out of time
00:41 and we aren't able to finish all the pictures we wanted to share.
00:45 So I guess you could call this maybe astronomy a la carte
00:48 because we're going to hit several different subjects.
00:51 Maybe that's not unusual because I know a lot of times I get off
00:55 on bunny trails anyway. But we're going to talk about the
00:58 star of Bethlehem. The Bible talks about the Pleiades.
01:03 In Job 38:31 and 32 it talks about several things in the
01:08 heavens and it was a question God asked Job. He had 80 some
01:12 questions for Job. Where were you when I laid the foundations
01:17 of the earth. But God asked Job, can you bind the Pleiades, can
01:21 you loose the belts of Orion, can you bring forth Mazzaroth
01:25 in its season, can you guide Arcturus with its suns? Now this
01:31 is an amazing, amazing scripture amazing insight there into the
01:35 heavens. Because first off God said can you bind the Pleiades.
01:40 Well the Pleiades we call them the seven sisters. We see seven
01:43 stars with the naked eye. There are actually about 500 in the
01:49 Pleiades group. They are moving to the east at 90,000 miles an
01:53 hour, bound together. Now if you have watched other programs you
01:57 have seen stars going every direction in the video clips
02:01 that we've had and
02:02 yet the Pleiades are bound together. And that was kind of
02:05 interesting. God said can you bind the Pleiades and they're
02:09 moving to the east at 90,000 miles an hour. When I was first
02:12 studying astronomy I thought man I better look at them this week.
02:17 Do you know where the Pleiades are going to be next year.
02:21 Multiply 90,000 miles an hour times 24 hours a day times 365
02:26 and as I continued to study, I discovered it takes 33,000 years
02:32 for the Pleiades to move the distance of the moon, like
02:35 across the moon in the sky. So I'd like to show you a picture
02:40 of the Pleiades and there they are, the seven sisters,
02:44 beautiful, beautiful star scene and the Pleiades have clouds
02:50 around it, we call it nebulosity the gaseous clouds around the
02:54 Pleiades but the interesting thing is God said can you bind
02:58 them. We now know that there are actually 500 stars that are
03:02 bound together moving to the east, actually towards Orion.
03:06 The Pleiades are located just to the west of Orion in the
03:10 constellation of Taurus, Taurus the Bull. The scripture says can
03:18 you loose the belts of Orion, the bands of Orion, some
03:22 translations would say the bands and can you guide Arcturus and
03:28 bring forth Mazzaroth? If you look in the margin of your Bible
03:32 you'll see that's the signs of the Zodiak. Job can you bring
03:38 around the signs of the Zodiak. Now I should mention Christians
03:43 should not get involved in astrology. There's a big
03:48 difference between astronomy and astrology. Astrology I
03:52 believe is perversion by the devil to have people look at
03:57 their stars and think the stars have something to do with their
03:59 life. It's quite popular. It's in the newspaper all the time.
04:02 What's your sign? Actually the signs are off a whole
04:07 constellation. They haven't even caught up with the procession of
04:11 the equinox. Earth has a wobble and we call it the procession of
04:15 the equinox. The earth like a top is spinning and it has a
04:19 26,000-year wobble so the constellations are changing over
04:23 time. In fact, in the time of Christ the Southern Cross was
04:26 visible in the northern hemisphere which it is not today
04:30 But we'll pick up the belts of Orion but first let's talk about
04:37 Arcturus. Now Arcturus is... God said to Job, can you guide
04:42 Arcturus? We now know Arcturus is a runaway star. Arcturus is
04:47 traveling through our galaxy, it is a runaway star doing about
04:52 400,000 miles an hour through our galaxy. Astronomers have
04:56 been saying since I've been reading, 20, 30 years, Arcturus
05:01 may just leave the galaxy. New articles have come out recently
05:06 with the question, did another galaxy give us Arcturus? So
05:11 astronomers are thinking this run away star may have come from
05:16 another galaxy, traveling through our galaxy, may just
05:18 leave our galaxy. When you look at the galaxy and you realize
05:22 that Arcturus is traveling through there at 400,000 miles
05:26 an hour, here's an example of the galaxy, and hasn't yet
05:31 collided with another star. That's pretty amazing. But what
05:36 is even more amazing, if you read Job, God said to Job, can
05:40 you guide Arcturus with it's suns. If you google Arcturun
05:45 group you will discover that Arcturus has 52 little stars
05:52 traveling through the galaxy with it. It's fun to see the
05:58 scripture being played out in the heavens scientifically and
06:02 accurately when so many other religions taught... There's one
06:06 that taught that there are people living on the sun, people
06:10 living on the moon. There were five villages on the moon and
06:14 seven villages on the sun and describes the people and so
06:18 forth. They used to think the Earth was supported on the backs
06:21 of turtles and elephants. Charles Atlas was holding the
06:26 Earth up and God hangs the Earth on nothing. So Arcturus, a run
06:32 away star traveling through space with its 52 suns. The
06:38 rest of that scripture is talking about Orion and it says
06:44 can you loose the belts or the bands of Orion? Low and behold
06:48 we've discovered there are three stars that have left the belt of
06:53 Orion at a high speed and I'll share that graphic with you next
06:57 and you see the belt there in the very center, those three
07:01 stars would be the belt stars of Orion and these stars have
07:04 traveled through completely other constellations at very
07:07 high speeds. They have traced them back to the belt of Orion.
07:12 So I just wanted to share that with you. Once again the Bible
07:17 is accurate. Now as we move along there is a very
07:24 interesting nebula. There are basically four type of nebulae
07:27 in the sky. There are nebulae that glow because they're hot.
07:30 We see them because they're hot and they're glowing. Nebulae
07:33 that glow because they're embedded with bright stars.
07:36 There are nebulae like the horse head nebula which we have seen
07:40 in the past here and then we have these super nova eruptions
07:44 which we call planetary nebulae because when we look at them
07:47 in a telescope we see a disk rather than a pinpoint of light.
07:52 I remember the first time I discovered the picture, the next
07:56 picture we're going to have up.
07:57 It's called the Witch's Head nebula. You certainly see the
08:02 picture there, arrow pointing to the nose, arrow pointing to
08:07 the mouth of the witch. The first time I discovered this
08:13 years ago I'm saying did God do this or did this just happen?
08:19 Now when I see a picture of a witch I think of something
08:24 connected with Satan. So in my mind I'm thinking, there are 88
08:31 places this could be, 88 constellations in the heavens
08:34 would there be a message with the Witch's Head nebula? So I'm
08:38 I'm thinking something connected with Satan so I'm think well he
08:42 was the dragon. Would it be in Draco the dragon. He was a
08:45 roaring lion. Would it be in Leo the lion? He was a snake. Would
08:50 it be in the constellation Serpa which is a snake. There's
08:54 another snake, Hydra, and I'm going through my mind trying to
08:57 think of where the witch would be. And I could not even find
09:00 the best place for the witch. You know where the witch is?
09:04 In the lake of fire, Eridanus the lake of fire. The witch is
09:09 located 2-1/2 degrees west of Rigel. Rigel now is the westerly
09:14 most foot star in Orion. And the Witch's Head nebula is in
09:19 Eridanus, the river of fire or the lake of fire prepared for
09:23 Satan and his angels. I was so excited. I was like praising the
09:29 Lord, called my wife, guess what guess what I saw a message in
09:35 that picture. Now there are 88 constellations where it could
09:39 be, but it was in an area that had a message for us. Well the
09:45 Lake of Fire was prepared for Satan and his angels. I want to
09:51 go to the next graphic and you will see Orion. You'll see the
09:55 Lake of Fire there, you see the river of fire coming out of the
09:59 bottom. See Taurus which is a constellation, see Taurus the
10:04 bull. You see Orion to the left and he's holding a lion's skin.
10:10 Up at the top you see a shepherd with the lamb in the lap of the
10:16 shepherd. Now
10:18 there was a woman who was studying this. Frances
10:25 Rolleston, who was an authority in ancient languages, began
10:29 studying star names in ancient languages. We have star names
10:36 that have come down from ancient history, over 150 star names.
10:41 In ancient languages every name had a meaning. If your name was
10:45 Phillip it meant lover of horses If it was Joshua it meant
10:49 Jehovah is my God. If it was Esau it meant hairy. So in
10:52 Bible times, in those olden times, names had meanings.
10:56 Frances Rolleston started looking at star names in ancient
10:59 languages and she began to see the story of salvation told in
11:07 the constellations. In Taurus the Bull she saw the judgment,
11:12 the judgment of God. And she sees in Orion a type of Christ.
11:18 And in the lion's skin a type of Satan defeated. Then in Auriga
11:23 the saint sitting in the lap of the shepherd. We might go back
11:28 to that slide again and take another look at it and you'll
11:32 see that Orion she's saying is a representation of Christ. He's
11:35 holding up a lion's skin which is about to be dropped into the
11:42 lake of fire. Frances never wrote a book. She made lots of
11:47 notes and many others have come along and written books about
11:52 the story of salvation in the heavens but they are suggesting
11:57 Isaiah 40:11 is what we're looking at the top of the
12:00 picture there where it says...
12:10 And then we have Daniel 7 where it says a fiery stream issued.
12:13 OK you see the fiery stream there. Issued...
12:25 So what they're suggesting is this is the judgment scene at
12:29 the very end of time. Now if you read your National
12:33 Geographic's you're going to see Orion has a bow and an arrow.
12:38 He's going to shoot Taurus. But if you look at the star charts
12:43 that astronomers use and I think we may have that graphic up
12:48 actually the old star charts show a lion's skin and Orion
12:52 is holding up a lion's skin about to be dropped into the
12:56 lake of fire. If you look up at the upper right there you'll see
13:01 It say's lion's skin there at the right hand corner. So the
13:06 ancient star charts actually show a lion's skin there about
13:10 to be dropped into the lake of fire. Well, I thought I would
13:14 share a few more pictures with you on the story of salvation
13:19 told in the constellations. And some of these you go like that,
13:22 how did we miss it particularly the last one when you see Orion
13:27 you see the bull and the saint in the lap of the shepherd and
13:31 the judgment and all of that. We have another graphic which
13:37 Virgo, the virgin, the mother of Christ and in her hand she has
13:41 a stock of corn in one hand and she has a branch in the other.
13:46 Christ was the seed of the woman He was also known as the branch.
13:50 Above that you see Coma Berenice with the Christ Child in her lap
13:54 Now this more of an original picture but if you go back to
13:59 the ancient ones you'll see the virgin with a child. Today you
14:03 will see a woman's wig there and that the story that had to do
14:07 with Ptolemy and it's kind of a long story I won't go into but
14:11 that has changed. Some of these we know have been changed. So
14:15 you probably can't make all the constellations stand on all four
14:20 but as I look I begin to see the story of salvation. If we go
14:24 to that graphic you will all see Bootes. Now Bootes is a shepherd
14:29 you see he has a sickle in one hand, he has a staff in the
14:34 other. And that is a symbol of Christ who is the good shepherd,
14:37 came with a staff, and he has the sickle. At the end he comes
14:41 to harvest with the sickle. Then if you go down below you see
14:45 Centaurus and the legend is that Centaurus was immortal. He
14:48 voluntarily laid his life down and you see the two natures of
14:52 Christ there in Centaurus. Then we have I think one more graphic
14:56 and that has to do with Ophiuchus. Ophiuchus is a
15:00 mighty man. He's doing battle with a serpent there.
15:04 The serpent is trying to seize the crown that Adam and Eve lost
15:09 and the scorpion right below that, his head is being crushed.
15:14 Genesis 3:15 says I will put enmity between thee and the
15:18 woman, between they seed and her seed. It shall bruise thy
15:21 head and thou shall bruise his heal. So we see the battle
15:25 between Christ and Satan there. The scorpion they are saying is
15:29 representing Satan about to be crushed by the foot of Christ
15:33 and then above that we see the constellation Hercules again
15:38 which is a representation of Christ and he known as the man
15:42 upon his knees. So from here we're going to turn and talk
15:46 about the star of Bethlehem. Now movies have been written, books
15:54 have been written, all kinds of speculation. People running
15:57 their computers backwards. Now we've got computers, we can run
16:00 computers backwards and we can find anything. I mean, you can
16:03 take Halley's comet and you can run it for 2,000 years forward
16:07 or backward and you can find out what was in the sky at any
16:11 particular time that you want on these computers. So people have
16:16 run it back and forth trying to figure out what was the star of
16:20 Bethlehem thinking that it was some natural event; thinking it
16:23 was a comet. Maybe it was a conjunction of Venus and any of
16:28 the bright planets. Maybe it was a super nova explosion. So all
16:33 kinds of speculation. There is on video that's been out.
16:36 The guy has done an unbelievable research about the star of
16:41 Bethlehem but he does not have it figured out. He says it was
16:46 the conjunction of Saturn and Regulus, the star in Leo, the
16:50 bright bottom star in Leo and that we know as the earth goes
16:55 around everything moves to the west by one degree but by the
16:58 rotation of the earth all of a sudden some stars appear to go
17:03 backwards for a few months. He traced that back to Saturn and
17:06 Regulus. Saturn every day is moving one degree and then all
17:09 of a sudden it stopped and starts moving backward because
17:12 of the rotation of the earth. And he said that was the star of
17:16 Bethlehem that led the wise men. Well folks let me tell you, if
17:22 you know how stars move in the sky, if you have a map and if
17:26 you have your Bible, I will show you five problems. Anybody who
17:30 says it was comet, it was a conjunction, it was a super nova
17:34 has got problems. There are five basic problems. It could not
17:38 have been a natural event. I'll illustrate that and it's going
17:41 be so clear I think. If you know how the stars move in the sky,
17:46 if you have a Bible and if you have a map. Here's the deal.
17:51 We know that the stars rise in the east and set in the west.
17:55 I'm going to use this for a telescope because it's much
17:58 lighter to move than that one behind me. So we basically would
18:02 look in the east. We'll look at a star rising through the night
18:07 and then it sets in the west. During the day it's down towards
18:12 China. We basically put a motor on the telescope. We put a
18:17 24-hour clock on the telescope. So this thing is going to go
18:21 around like 24 hours. So we would put it on a star.
18:24 No matter where we go in the sky it makes no difference.
18:28 We rotate this with the North Star, the north pole of the
18:32 earth, the rotation of the earth So basically we put a 24-hour
18:36 clock motor that's going to line up this with the North Star and
18:39 follow any star in the sky throughout the night. Now there
18:42 is only one star that's stationary and that's the
18:44 North Star and all night long it's there and so a telescope
18:48 with this motor would simply rotate. So stars rise in the
18:52 east, they set in the west. OK. We put a 24-hour clock motor on
18:59 a telescope and what is so cool during the daytime, our star is
19:04 down by China. The telescope is still pointing towards the star.
19:09 And we put a motor on here and this will never move.
19:13 The telescope never moves even though it's got a 24-hour motor
19:16 on it. Basically it allows and permits the earth to turn
19:21 underneath the telescope. So when we build a telescope we put
19:24 a 24-hour clock motor, we line it on the North Star, and it's
19:27 never going to move. Even though during the day it's pointed
19:30 towards China, it stood still. Just the earth turned underneath
19:34 it. Are you with me? Are you following? Isn't that cool?
19:36 Then tomorrow night when the star is right here we are within
19:39 one degree. Stars only move one degree a day. So the next night
19:42 the clock is going to be just within one degree of that star.
19:46 And again as it rotates. We just put a 24-hour clock on our
19:49 telescope, line it up with the North Star. It never moves, but
19:53 the earth is going to rotate underneath it and that's how we
19:56 follow the stars, how we track the stars with a telescope.
20:02 So now if we look at our Bible and we look at the star of
20:08 Bethlehem and in the book of Matthew it says that the wise
20:13 men had seen his star and they came to Jerusalem, We have seen
20:18 his star in the east. No problem that's cool. Whether they were
20:22 in the east or the west and the star was in the east or they
20:26 were in the east, it makes no difference. Because if you look
20:32 at the map... In fact, OK, let's just go to that map, I think in
20:38 the next graphic. And so coming from the east, no problem.
20:42 They come to Jerusalem and now there's basically a problem
20:47 because the star disappears. Well, stars don't disappear,
20:53 comets don't disappear, super nova's don't disappear,
20:57 conjunctions don't disappear. Because they get to Jerusalem,
21:00 they say we've seen his star in the east, we've come to worship
21:04 him and the star disappears. So they inquire, where is he that
21:08 is born king of the Jews and they're told they need to go to
21:11 Bethlehem. Now you'll see on the map, you'll notice that
21:14 Bethlehem is south. So we've got a problem because there's
21:18 nothing in the sky that makes left turns, nothing in the sky,
21:21 the comets, the conjunctions, the super novas, none of them
21:24 will make a left turn, but the star of Bethlehem did make a
21:28 left turn to lead them down to Bethlehem. Now the next problem,
21:31 so that's two problems. The third problem is the Bible said
21:34 the star came and went before them. So here we see the star
21:38 getting to Jerusalem, the star stops, they make a left turn,
21:41 the star appears again and now they start south towards
21:45 Bethlehem. Well the next problem is you cannot get to Bethlehem,
21:50 you cannot get south by following a star because the
21:54 star is going to move, you're going to end up in the west
21:55 following a star because of the rotation of the earth. The stars
21:59 don't stay in the south all night long. They're moving
22:02 gradually and would take you off course. So again if it was a
22:07 conjunction of the planets, if it was a super nova, if it was
22:12 a comet, if it was any natural event, the Bible could not get
22:16 you to Bethlehem because you're going to end up in the west
22:19 instead of going south. Like I said, you need a map to see that
22:23 That's four problems, OK. The star had no problem getting to
22:27 Jerusalem, but the star stopped, that's the first problem. Second
22:31 the star made a left turn, that is the second problem. The third
22:34 problem is the star started up again, it came and went before
22:37 them. Fourth problem, you can't get south by following a star.
22:41 Fifth problem, the Bible says the star came and stood over
22:45 the manger. Now as a said, there are no stars that stop their
22:50 moving all night long except the North Star and we're going south
22:55 So it had to be a miracle of God It was obviously probably a band
23:00 of angels because the Bible says suddenly there was with them the
23:05 whole heavenly host. So anybody who tells you well I have a book
23:11 The Super Nova of Bethlehem, the Comet of Bethlehem, the
23:15 Conjunction. It had to be a miracle of God because there's
23:18 nothing in the sky that would explain that. I know a lot of
23:23 people are going to, I think, appreciate this because of all
23:29 the talk about the star of Bethlehem. We're going to change
23:34 course a little bit and talk about last day events.
23:39 In Matthew 24 verse 6 we're told for nation will rise against
23:43 nation and kingdom against kingdom and there will be
23:45 famines and pestilence and earthquakes in various places,
23:50 but the end is not yet. And if we continue on in Matthew 24
23:54 verse 14 it says this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in
23:59 all the world for a testimony to all nations and then the end
24:03 will come. So we see all these events happening but it isn't
24:08 yet, the end is not yet, until the gospel goes. What I'm so
24:12 excited about, I see the gospel go like wildfire.
24:15 It's unbelievable how the gospel is going. We also see another
24:21 prophecy of the end time would be Daniel 12:4 where it says
24:26 But thou Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book to the
24:30 time of the end. Many shall run to and fro and knowledge will be
24:36 increased. Yes it is definitely being increased like crazy, with
24:41 the media, with what's happening in 3ABN with nine satellites
24:47 going around the world and many channels actually. What I see is
24:54 God fulfilling this prophecy. The gospel will be preached.
24:58 There is a man who has put up over 200 radio stations from
25:03 Radio 74. Life Talk Radio has 99 stations. You know Hope TV is on
25:07 13 full time channels. They're carried on Dish and Direct which
25:13 have 20 million viewers. 3ABN is carried on Dish which has 14
25:17 million viewers, 3ABN has world satellite coverage, they've got
25:22 like 164 TV stations, they've got like 400 channels in North
25:30 America. We have 3ABN Latino on 400 million cable companies,
25:35 400 million people subscribing. Doug Batchelor is heard over
25:40 like 1000 times a week. It Is Written is on 7,700 channels in
25:46 143 countries. Adventist World Radio is just totally amazing.
25:53 They had last year 5.8 billion downloads of our sermons on
26:00 Adventist World Radio. The last I heard, this last August, they
26:08 actually had 11 million people a day downloading their sermons.
26:14 They had 8.5 billion last year but 11 million a day. The gospel
26:20 is going like wildfire and that prophecy tells us that when the
26:24 gospel will be preached, then the end will come. And I just
26:28 see that happening and it is just so amazing to see what God
26:32 is doing because you realize this church has a message that
26:35 others do not have. There are people out there who think once
26:38 saved always saved. Walk the aisle and pray the sinner's
26:42 prayer, you're in, you're going to heaven and that's not true
26:46 folks. Because Jesus comes there are people that think they are
26:50 Christians but they don't know Jesus. He says depart from me,
26:53 I never knew you. We have a proper message, a correct
26:59 message about once saved, always saved, about ever-burning hell,
27:05 God's not burning people forever in hell. We have the Sabbath,
27:11 the people need to hear about the Sabbath, truths from the
27:16 word of God that are not proclaimed throughout the world
27:21 but only by this message, this channel and this network.
27:27 So I want to thank you. Boy our time just goes so fast. Thank
27:29 you for watching Heavens Declare. We just enjoy sharing
27:33 the heavens with you and the beautiful things God has created
27:36 Certainly the heavens do declare the glory of God. I invite you
27:40 to join us again next week as we explore more of the heavens.
27:44 Thank you for watching.


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