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Series Code: CW
Program Code: CW000030S
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00:03 - Welcome everyone. 00:05 We're excited to share some country wisdom with you. 00:07 - King Solomon had a thing or two to say 00:09 about the path to wisdom. 00:11 In Proverbs 4 he wrote, 00:13 "Let your eyes look directly forward 00:16 and your gaze be straight before you. 00:19 Keep straight the path of your feet 00:21 and all your ways will be sure." 00:23 - Join us now for "Country Wisdom". 00:26 (gentle music) 00:33 (upbeat music) 00:38 (hammering) 00:50 - This whole array, I saw this table when we walked in, 00:54 I don't even recognize some of these things. 00:57 - [Jim] Knives, hammers, all those good things. 00:58 - They all look fairly lethal, 01:00 but they're not just, you know, for show, 01:02 they actually are useful. 01:04 And I love some of the items we have. 01:08 It made me immediately think of transformation 01:12 because none of this started out looking the way it is. 01:15 None of this started out being as useful as it is right now. 01:19 I know one of the pieces that struck me, 01:22 I saw this, what is this ax or tomahawk? 01:25 I can never remember which is which. 01:26 - Sure, it works. 01:28 - And I thought, ooh, that's such a neat pattern here. 01:30 And then I found out that's because it was remade 01:34 from an old farriers rasp. 01:36 - [Jim] Yup. 01:37 - You know, this, it had gotten dull. 01:38 It wasn't useful, tossed aside. 01:41 And the blacksmith's, one of the guys here said, 01:44 oh, you know, I can make something out of that. 01:46 - You know, and that's what the Lord tells us. 01:49 Be therefore transformed by the renewing of your mind. 01:53 Well, how does that happen? 01:54 You know, we don't like the process sometimes. 01:57 The process can be pretty difficult. 02:00 Matter of fact, you look at this 02:03 and I kind of think, God maybe used that, you know? 02:06 - [Janice] Is it a club? 02:07 - Well, it's an old chunk of a truck. 02:08 Just say that, you know, and this is what it became, 02:12 a useful tool. 02:13 - Okay, what chunk of a truck was that? 02:15 - Oh, what was that? I even forgot. (laughs) 02:19 Come on. I'm not a, I'm not a... 02:21 An axle? - [Man] An axle. 02:22 I think it was an axle. - [Man] Trunk axle. 02:23 I had to look for somebody else. What is it, you know? 02:25 This is a truck axle and it became this, a useful hammer. 02:29 Here's another one, another useful hammer. 02:32 But it didn't... 02:33 - That was also made out of a truck axle? 02:34 - It didn't get there just by sitting on the table. 02:38 You know, somebody had to take that thing 02:40 and put it in the fire and pound it 02:42 and put it in water and take it out and work it 02:45 and work it and work it, work it. 02:47 And that, God says He's the refiner. 02:50 - Right, He's the refiner's fire, 02:53 that none of us voluntarily wants to go into. 02:55 - Who wants to do that? 02:57 - But you have to, to have the impurities taken out of you. 03:00 - Yeah. - First of all, though, 03:01 someone had to have the eye to look at this thing. 03:08 - [Jim] I think I'll back up from you just a little bit. 03:10 - You picked it up with one hand, I'm going oh. 03:14 Someone had to look at this and go, and have the vision 03:17 that it could be something else. 03:19 - Something else. 03:21 - That it had not come to the end of its usefulness. 03:23 - They looked in there and saw (metal clanks) 03:26 (both laugh) 03:28 I'll start again. 03:29 They looked in there and saw, there's a hammer in there. 03:32 I can make a useful tool, you know? 03:34 And I think that's what God is looking for, 03:37 with each one of us, is to make us useful tools. 03:40 And the interesting thing is, 03:42 I'll set my Bible down for a minute, 03:44 not every tool is the same, 03:45 not everything is the same at all. 03:48 Matter of fact, look at this. 03:49 Now you recognize it. 03:50 - That is a hunking piece of wire. 03:53 - Yeah, yeah, cable. 03:54 - Cable. That's the right word. 03:55 - Heavy-duty cable. I mean, each... 03:56 - See how industrial I am. (laughs) 03:57 - There you go. 03:59 But you look at this and you think about it and okay, 04:03 I see these out in the woods all the time. 04:05 Loggers, you know, pull logs with them. 04:09 After a while they break, the ends fray 04:10 and they just leave them there. 04:12 - Oh, you can see that one fraying on the end right there. 04:14 - But an industrious person, 04:16 you know, they can do something with it. 04:18 I'm gonna sneak over here and grab the knife. 04:21 They can make a very useful tool. 04:23 - Then I'm going to hide behind the shield. 04:25 (both laugh) 04:28 - Now that's no fair, you're cheating. 04:29 - I love history. My eyes immediately went to this 04:32 and some of the armor they have everywhere. 04:34 - Yeah, but you can make so many things 04:37 and I think that's what God sees in the world. 04:39 - So, because I was admiring my shield, 04:43 the knife was made from the cable? 04:47 - Lookit, you can still see the individual strands 04:51 of the cable in there. 04:52 - [Janice] Oh my goodness, you can. 04:53 - [Jim] All these little individual strands. 04:55 Which means, an interesting thing to me is, 04:57 we don't completely lose everything. 05:00 You know, God simply transforms what's there 05:03 like a worm to a butterfly, right? 05:06 It's still the same creature, 05:08 but it becomes totally transformed. 05:10 One crawls on the ground, crawl through the mud, 05:13 the other one flies through the sky. 05:15 - There's another object lesson 05:17 that popped into my head looking at that, 05:19 where you can see the individual little wires 05:22 that are still embedded in there. 05:24 And it reminded me of the body of Christ. 05:27 All those little pieces that get forged together 05:30 to become something that's more useful. 05:32 - Yeah. Yeah. 05:33 And there's just so many tools we could pick up here. 05:36 You look at this, this did did not start out... 05:39 - Now I do need the shield. (laughs) I'm stepping aside. 05:41 - This did not start out as an amazing knife. 05:44 I mean, they've got more work to do 05:45 and filing and sharpening and things. 05:48 I think about, even with Jesus. Jesus was our example. 05:51 When he was baptized, what happened? 05:54 He came up out of the water and you think, 05:56 oh great, that's it, wonderful life now. 05:58 Go off, be a happy Christian. 06:00 Except there was a problem. 06:02 The Holy Spirit, it said, drove him into the wilderness. 06:05 What happened in the wilderness? 06:07 - It was not a vacation. 06:08 - It was not a vacation, no. 06:11 Devil pounds him and pounds him and pounds him 06:13 and hammers on him, all of these things. 06:15 But he withstood it through God's power 06:18 and he came out as totally victorious. 06:22 God's looking for that for you and me. 06:25 - In Scripture, it talks about Christ being, you know, 06:29 God is the potter and we're the clay, 06:32 and that is so much more of a gentle shaping process. 06:36 But there are verses that also talk about 06:39 a much harsher process that God puts us through. 06:42 We mentioned refiner's fire and fire is involved in this 06:48 and I'm losing which verse it is, but I know it's there 06:51 where God actually refers to himself as a hammer. 06:55 Where he's gonna beat us into what we need to be. 06:59 - There are so many Scriptures that talk about that. 07:02 We're going to get together with Dusty, 07:04 the blacksmith's here, pretty soon. 07:05 He's probably got most of those off the top of his head. 07:08 You know, being a blacksmith and being in this area, 07:11 I've got a feeling he's read those scriptures many times 07:14 and thought about that. You know? 07:15 So I'm looking forward to talking with him. 07:18 - About just what a master blacksmith does, 07:21 to get a finished product. 07:23 - What is that real process to get to that point, 07:25 to form something beautiful, something different, 07:28 something that's continues to be useful. 07:32 Really you could, you could look at this, 07:33 what you brought up for, you know, the, 07:35 the horseshoers rasp to file hooves, 07:39 it got dull and he threw it away. 07:41 The blacksmith looked at that 07:43 and saw another beautiful tool, you know? 07:45 And I think that's what God does with each one of us. 07:48 God is the God of second chances. 07:50 That's what really cool. 07:52 - You might think that you're washed up, beat up, useless 07:58 and God's eye sees something else in you 08:01 that you don't know is there. 08:03 - I love what he said. 08:04 He sees the end from the beginning 08:06 and I don't know how God does that, but he's eternal. 08:08 He steps in and out of time and he looks, 08:12 and he sees our ultimate end down there 08:15 'cause he's right there and then he comes back 08:17 and he looks at you and says, 08:18 okay, I need to fashion this, 08:20 I need to change this, I need to mold this 08:22 because I've got this beautiful thing 08:25 I'm going to take you toward, and he's incredible. 08:28 - I don't know about you, 08:29 but when I'm going through what I consider a trial by fire, 08:34 or I feel like, I'm just getting, you know, 08:36 hammered by life, we've all had those periods. 08:40 I don't take it very gracefully. 08:42 I tend to whine and it's the why me, you know, 08:44 why is this happening? 08:47 But what if the lumps of metal that blacksmiths work with 08:53 complained the whole time. 08:53 What are you doing to me? 08:54 Why are you allowing me in the furnace? 08:57 - Kicking and screaming and running away. 08:58 - 'Cause they can't see the end, obviously. 09:00 And sometimes we're a lot, 09:02 not a lot more useful than inanimate objects like this. 09:06 We don't have a whole lot more foresight 09:08 or maybe I'm just talking about myself, 09:11 but it would, it's good for us to remember 09:14 if we're going through a difficult time that, you know, 09:18 if I let God lead me through this, 09:21 I'm going to come out a lot stronger and a lot better. 09:24 - That's the key, I think, 09:25 to what they were talking about in the Bible, 09:27 rejoice in the fiery trials. 09:30 I don't want to rejoice in any fiery trials. 09:31 - On the surface that doesn't make sense, does it? 09:34 - No, not at all. 09:35 - What do you mean rejoice in a fiery trial? 09:37 - But as I begin gaining the vision of God, 09:40 as I began looking through God's eyes, 09:42 I begin seeing what he's got in store. 09:45 That's the amazing thing. 09:46 But why don't we head over, let's meet our... 09:49 - Talk to a real master blacksmith. 09:51 - Talk to the real master blacksmith, yeah. 09:52 - Okay. 09:54 - Hey Janice, how are you doing? 09:56 - Hey, you wrote another book. 09:58 - I did. 09:59 Had a burden on my heart and God helped me get it done. 10:02 - So, "The Plan Of Love". 10:04 What's it about? 10:06 - Well, it's really about God in eternity 10:08 saw everything that was going to happen here. 10:11 In His amazing love He says, 10:13 I'm going to take care of the problems. 10:15 I'm gonna take care of the situation 10:16 by giving my own life. 10:19 He did all that, but we've been lied to so much. 10:22 We don't see what God has planned for us, 10:24 what God is doing for us. 10:26 Matter of fact, the angel came down to Mary and said, 10:29 "You shall call his name Jesus 10:31 for he shall save his people from their sins." 10:34 Notice it wasn't in, but from. 10:36 - Where can people get the book? 10:38 - Hey, I'm glad you asked. 10:39 Folks if you'd like your own personal copy, 10:41 log on to talkingdonkeyinternational.org. 10:44 And oh please if you would send us a donation of $12. 10:47 - [Janice] Or more. 10:48 - [Jim] Or more, and we'll get you the book 10:50 and I'll be happy to sign it for you too. 10:52 Thank you so much. 10:56 (fire blazing) 11:02 (hammering) 11:05 (gentle music) 11:18 That's amazing. 11:21 Hello, Dusty. 11:21 - Hey. 11:23 - Thanks for letting us join you today. 11:26 - Keep that far away from me, but I love being in here. 11:29 I just don't like that. 11:30 - Yeah, don't stop. 11:31 I love watching you do that, you know. 11:32 - Well, I gotta let it heat just a second. 11:34 I got a second piece I can start here. 11:37 - So, you know, we've been talking about God as the refiner. 11:40 God is the one who takes the real hammer to change us. 11:44 Will you tell us a little bit about what you're doing 11:46 and why you do it? 11:47 - [Janice] Because I recognized immediately 11:49 with things that you and the guys made, 11:51 that a whole process of transformation is involved. 11:55 And we were seeing some of the spiritual applications, 11:58 but you have a much better idea 12:01 of what that transformation looks like, 12:04 both in a piece of metal and in our own lives. 12:06 - Well, it started out as I was just interested, 12:11 I enjoyed metal and working with my hands 12:16 and we got to a point where I got a chance to learn 12:20 and grow on this skill by a number of gentlemen 12:26 in different places here in the area, 12:29 Choo Choo Forge among others. 12:31 And they were kind enough to teach me as we went. 12:38 - It's just too close. (Janet laughs) 12:42 - I won't get you, I won't brand you but once. 12:43 - How hot is that furnace? 12:45 - We're running somewhere around 1,600 to 1,800. 12:48 - [Jim] You almost think about the three Hebrews 12:50 in the furnace, heated at seven times hotter. 12:54 Just out of curiosity as a blacksmith, 12:55 how hot do you think that furnace was? 12:58 - That is something I have really wondered 13:00 because especially since... 13:01 - Well, and then Nebuchadnezzar said, 13:03 heated seven times hotter than whatever it had been. 13:05 - Well, yeah, and that's something that I have, 13:07 I've not had a chance to research, 13:08 but in the thinking I'm also a welder 13:11 and you've gotta keep in mind that electric arc 13:14 is over 6,000 degrees, 13:16 which is supposed to be close to what the sun heat is. 13:20 Now, I'm not saying they got it that hot, 13:22 but we also have found out from history 13:25 that they knew a lot about this stuff 13:28 and were doing unbelievable things with this heat. 13:30 You gotta keep in mind too, that the seven, 13:32 the guys that threw Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in, died. 13:37 - From being that close. 13:38 - From being that close to that heat. 13:40 - Well, I can even, right here. 13:42 I'm glad Janice is on this side of me because it is hot. 13:44 - [Janice] (laughs) Thanks, thanks. 13:46 - [Dusty] Well, it's not uncommon to have no hair 13:48 on the back of my hands. 13:49 - [Jim] Really? 13:50 - It happens very quickly, very easily, 13:51 but yeah, I have often wondered 13:53 what that seven times hotter actually was. 13:56 And, it also says in there that Nebuchadnezzar 13:58 got as close as he dared. 14:00 So that tells you there had to be some serious 14:02 radiant heat on this. 14:04 What that is, it had to be well over two, 14:07 close to 3,000 degrees minimum in there 14:10 where those guys were walking. 14:12 And that literally almost makes steel start to disappear, 14:15 close to start to liquefying. 14:18 - [Both] So when... 14:19 - It's superhuman then, when these guys are walking around. 14:21 - [Dusty] Yeah. 14:22 - What does a piece of metal have to go through 14:26 from, you know, you look at it and you're going, 14:28 I could make something out of this. 14:30 How do you do it? 14:33 The reader's digest version. (Dusty laughs) 14:35 - You know, it's really interesting you use that 14:36 because there's so much to what it takes to make metal 14:40 is a lot of the same processes 14:41 as it is to actually do this. 14:43 What we've done is they have actually made the steel 14:46 and then we take pieces and look at them and say, 14:50 I wanna try this, or I think we can make this out of it. 14:52 It's very similar to clay. 14:54 The description in the Bible is about clay is very simple, 15:00 but that's what some artists do, 15:03 is they will actually take modeling clay, 15:05 use the same tools to do with that, 15:08 so they know when they come to the steel, 15:10 what it's gonna do in the heat and how it's gonna react 15:13 and have a good idea where they're started with it 15:15 so that it gets actually the same thing. 15:17 It's just that it takes more force, more energy, more heat. 15:21 And that tells us that we are probably further away 15:24 from Christ than if we were more like clay. 15:29 - Pick up an example. Let's say, 15:31 let's say that truck axle I picked up, 15:34 how do you end up, real briefly, 15:36 but with that truck axle to a beautiful knife? 15:40 What do you have to go through? 15:41 What it's have to go through actually? 15:43 - Well, for the knife, we would cut the, 15:45 we would start flattening it out, shaping it. 15:48 First thing we would do once we got close 15:50 would be to kneel it and put it, get it very hot, 15:53 put it in the sand and let it cool down, 15:56 finish shaping it. 15:57 Then we would sand it, grind it, that process. 16:01 - Gotta interrupt you. 16:02 I'm thinking, why put it in the sand? 16:03 Why not, you've got a thing of water here, 16:05 why not put it in the water? 16:06 - Well, you put it in the water, it tightens everything up. 16:11 The crystalline structure starts to get real tight, 16:13 it'll be brittle. 16:16 In fact, I got something I think we can do that with. 16:20 It's a file, which is fairly high. 16:25 High carbon. 16:28 I put it, quenched it in water. 16:30 (metal being tapped) 16:38 That should've bent, instead it broke. 16:42 - So when God talks about really being the master 16:45 and the master blacksmith, 16:47 he knows exactly how much heat each one can take 16:50 and what it takes to cool down and refine us. 16:53 - Oh, definitely, not only individually, 16:55 but he knows that as far as individual, 17:02 but as a church and not only as a church, 17:04 but as a church body and how to get the message across. 17:09 You know, last night when we were here working together, 17:11 you saw how we were pounding 17:13 and how we had to work together. 17:16 - [Janice] Right. It took a whole team of you 17:17 to beat whatever that was into submission. 17:20 - [Dusty] And it takes time, but it took a lot, 17:22 but there was also a lot of coordination and understanding 17:25 and making sure that we didn't hit each other 17:29 or hit the anvil, which would damage it potentially 17:31 as well as other things. 17:35 - Now, I'm sure as a blacksmith, 17:37 you have looked at many Bible texts 17:39 that refer to God in that manner. 17:41 Is there any, those that jump out at you 17:44 that say, these are special to me? 17:46 - Well, one that comes out quite often, 17:50 both the Bible and Ellen White refer to it, 17:53 is being put in the fire to know 17:56 what kind of person you're gonna be, 17:59 what kind of your character is, 18:00 because when you go in the heat, 18:02 depending on how it reacts, especially when you get out, 18:05 you're gonna start to know and see how it responds 18:08 to where if I'da just done that with that file, 18:12 it would've kept breaking, it wouldn't have smoothed out 18:15 and moved like I wanted it to. 18:18 Gonna need to keep straightening there. 18:21 But that file would have just broken in pieces. 18:26 It would've just kept breaking because I had pulled it out 18:29 and put it in that water and quenched it. 18:31 So it's uptight. 18:33 That kneeling makes us soft, pliable, 18:39 much easier as far as steel goes. 18:40 - So there's a process that you actually call kneeling? 18:44 - [Dusty] A kneeling, yes. 18:45 - I kept thinking I had to have been, you know, 18:46 mishearing you because of the kneeling, 18:48 you're kneeling the metal. 18:49 - [Dusty] Although that helps, 18:50 - But...(Dusty laughs) 18:52 - [Jim] Yeah, very good ploy. 18:54 - Very good ploy without actually realizing it. 18:56 - Another obvious object lesson in this place 19:01 that kneeling makes it more softer and more pliable. 19:05 - Yeah. Really good point. 19:07 Is it my imagination? Look what that's turning out to be. 19:08 - That's turning into a cross. 19:10 - [Jim] Yeah. 19:12 (hammering) 19:13 - Yeah, there isn't, you know, 19:15 you guys talked about two over there on the table. 19:17 I noticed that you had a piece of cable held up. 19:20 And when you look at that and you may have mentioned 19:22 all those different little wires, that's like the church. 19:26 - I did. It naturally came to me 19:28 that you have all the individual pieces 19:31 that come together to create something strong and useful. 19:34 - Well, how much do you think one of those little wires 19:36 would hold by itself? 19:38 A fair amount, but you know, 19:39 but when you start adding those all together 19:41 and if you notice they had not only each individual wire, 19:44 but then you had groups of wires. 19:47 Talk to go back to small groups 19:48 like we talked about a little bit last night. 19:50 - They hold up entire bridges, right? 19:52 - Yeah. You're talking about holding bridges. 19:54 You're talking about holding ski trams, 20:00 you know, all kinds of different things. 20:02 And it's something that is just really, 20:07 really been interesting to learn and understand it more. 20:10 It's opened the Bible even more to me 20:12 in ways that I didn't understand 20:15 because of doing this as a hobby 20:17 and learning about it and what it does and doesn't do. 20:19 - I thought of you, because I thought 20:22 I wasn't in the shop more than a few minutes 20:24 and I'm seeing object lessons 20:26 and you spending all the time you have, 20:29 all the years you have, 20:30 have to have seen even more, 20:32 have to come to a much deeper understanding 20:35 of some of those Bible verses that talk about God 20:39 as a hammer and a refiner. 20:41 - Well, not only the hammer and the refiner, 20:43 but it talks too about the gold and the heat and the flux 20:48 and all the things that it goes into the silver. 20:51 And they call a blacksmith a blacksmith 20:53 because they use black metal, 20:55 Goldsmith because they use gold, silver because of silver, 20:58 but a lot of us the same thing, it's different. 21:00 Copper Smith is different. 21:01 And each of those metals respond differently 21:03 and handle differently. 21:06 - You mentioned the silver and all the time I was thinking 21:09 I heard, and you can tell me if this story rings true. 21:12 This lady went into this silversmith 21:15 and talked to him about the process. 21:18 So we talked about the heating and the cooling, 21:20 how to get rid of all the impurities. 21:22 The story went on quite a while in the explanation. 21:24 And then she started to walk out and she came back and said, 21:27 well, how do you know when it's truly finished? 21:30 When you're all done? 21:31 He said, when I can see my image reflected in the silver. 21:35 Wow, that's Christ, isn't it, you know. 21:38 He's looking to reflect himself in us. 21:40 - Oh, definitely. 21:42 And there's, there, yeah. 21:43 If you've ever watched silver being melted, 21:45 when it gets close to when it's being purified, 21:49 it is very, very close to a mirror in the top of that, 21:55 you know, on the very top of this melting area. 21:58 But if you watch, copper does the same thing, silver, 22:01 they get very shiny, very well-placed in how it goes. 22:06 And there's much to it, you know, 22:10 even in the molecular structure of steel there's messages. 22:16 You know, the more heat and the more times we cycle, 22:18 when I say cycle, we bring it up to more than red hot, 22:21 put it back in the furnace 22:23 and then bring it back out to magnetic, 22:25 cool it down to magnetic, and then put it back in, 22:28 that breaks down the actual small structure 22:31 to smaller and smaller molecules. 22:34 And it also helps move the carbon, 22:36 which holds an edge or toughens the steel 22:39 to the outside of the molecule 22:42 and that's just a small explanation. 22:45 You start getting into specialties 22:46 and it can go even crazier. 22:49 - There's another aspect of transformation, oops, 22:52 that I thought of as well. 22:55 Because as fascinating as it is to watch you transforming 22:58 whatever chunk of metal you started with, 23:02 you work with a lot of young men and women. 23:08 I met a female one last night. 23:11 You're helping to transform them, 23:14 not just transforming metal, you're transforming people. 23:20 And I suspect that some of that transformation 23:23 goes both directions. 23:25 - Well, thank you for that compliment, 23:27 but I'm not the one transforming. 23:30 I'm just the tool. 23:32 - [Janice] Okay. 23:33 - God's doing the transformation. 23:34 He's using me and the skills and the things 23:37 that he's given me and the abilities that he has made in me. 23:44 He knew before I was ever knit what I was capable of, 23:47 and he chose that. 23:48 I'm not a person that has a huge education. 23:51 I've struggled with education and other things, 23:55 but hands, working with my hands, 23:56 and thinking outside the box 23:59 has been something that's been very good for me 24:01 and I've done well with it. 24:02 And so God has actually used that to work with young people. 24:04 I've actually worked with young people most of my life 24:07 in one way or another. 24:09 - Just a minute, I've gotta interrupt. 24:10 We're almost out of time. 24:11 You know how I always... 24:13 - You're interrupting me again. 24:14 - Yeah, one more time. 24:16 We needed to get to the... 24:17 I saw this, and only in about a minute, actually. 24:20 Can you tell us why you're working on this 24:22 and what you're doing? 24:23 - This was one of the first things I did, 24:26 was I started from the second "Sonrise", 24:28 thinking of what would it be like 24:29 to have a crucifixion spike? 24:32 And I didn't realize when I started what it would do. 24:34 It got emotional. 24:36 It still does today because you think about this, 24:40 those guys made this with a purpose. 24:42 The square edges on this cause more pain and injury. 24:47 Square is easier to punch through a bone 24:50 and hold than round, 24:54 but yet Christ didn't die from the pain from this spike. 24:58 He died from the pain from our rejection 25:01 or possible rejection. 25:03 That's, that, that affected me more 25:06 and I never thought that that would happen 25:07 pounding on a piece of steel, 25:09 the thought process would affect me in that way. 25:12 - Dusty, thank you so much today. 25:13 And folks, the nails that Christ took on the cross, 25:19 He did it for us, you know, for all of us. 25:22 And He wants to refine us, 25:24 He wants to change us into his image, after his likeness. 25:27 Pretty incredible isn't it? 25:29 - Well, there's one more thing. 25:31 Here's the ultimate tool. 25:33 - We'll look at that. Is it cool? (all laugh) 25:35 - [Dusty] Yes, it's cool. 25:36 - Look at that. So you started out with a piece of metal 25:38 and we ended up with the cross. 25:40 - What you just saw through this, is that I did that. 25:42 That one I made previous 25:50 and there's the finished. (Jim and Janice laugh nervously) 25:52 You're okay, I gotcha. (all laugh) 25:54 - Now, that's amazing. 25:56 Folks, look at the cross. 25:58 Jesus Christ will change you. 26:06 (upbeat music) (skis shush) 26:09 - Hey everyone. 26:10 Jim Ayer here for Talking Donkey International. 26:12 You can rest assured that when you follow Talking Donkey, 26:15 we're going to take you someplace in the world, 26:17 not in a stuffy old studio. 26:19 But if you've missed one of our programs, 26:21 although we broadcast all over the world, 26:23 you can go right to our website, 26:24 talkingdonkeyinternational.org 26:27 and check out some of our programs right there. 26:28 And thank you so much for your support. 26:31 (gentle music) 26:37 - Hey Janice, how are you doing? 26:39 - Hey, you wrote another book. 26:41 - I did. 26:42 Had a burden on my heart and God helped me get it done. 26:44 - So, "The Plan Of Love". 26:47 What's it about? 26:48 - Well, it's really about God in eternity 26:51 saw everything that was going to happen here. 26:54 In His amazing love He says, 26:56 I'm going to take care of the problems. 26:58 I'm gonna take care of the situation 26:59 by giving my own life. 27:02 He did all that, but we've been lied to so much. 27:04 We don't see what God has planned for us, 27:07 what God is doing for us. 27:09 Matter of fact, the angel came down to Mary and said, 27:12 "You shall call his name Jesus 27:13 for he shall save his people from their sins". 27:16 Notice it wasn't in, but from. 27:19 - Where can people get the book? 27:20 Hey, I'm glad you asked. 27:22 Folks, if you'd like your own personal copy, 27:24 log on to talkingdonkeyinternational.org. 27:27 And oh please, if you would send us a donation of $12. 27:30 - [Janice] Or more. 27:31 - [Jim] Or more, and we'll get you the book 27:33 and I'll be happy to sign it for you too. 27:34 Thank you so much. 27:39 (gentle music) 27:43 Thank you for watching. 27:44 Join us again for another exciting "Country Wisdom". 27:46 - See you next time. 27:48 (gentle music) |
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