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00:03 - Welcome everyone, 00:05 we're excited to share some "Country Wisdom" with you. 00:07 - King Solomon had a thing or two to say 00:09 about the path to wisdom. 00:11 In Proverbs 4 he wrote, 00:13 "Let your eyes look directly forward 00:16 and your gaze be straight before you. 00:19 Keep straight the path of your feet 00:21 and all your ways will be sure." 00:23 - Join us now for "Country Wisdom". 00:34 (bright music) 01:00 - Well, we're fortunate here at the museum in Kentucky, 01:03 The Creation Museum, actually. 01:05 We have Bodie Hodge, 01:07 Bodie Hodge is a writer, 01:09 well, he's a researcher, a biblical scholar. 01:12 He does so many things here. 01:14 Bodie, we really are glad to be able to be with you today. 01:17 - Yeah, it's great to be on the show with you. 01:18 - It's a privilege that you took time out of your schedule. 01:21 You've have written how many books? 01:23 - Oh, somewhere between 20 and 30, 01:25 so many I've been involved in. 01:26 - Wow, well a couple I was wanting to focus on today 01:29 and I was pleased when you said, "Yeah," you'd do it 01:32 is the "Tower of Babel". 01:34 - Or Babel, what is the correct pronunciation? 01:37 - Hey, you wouldn't believe it 01:38 but that's the fist chapter in the book. 01:40 I had to explain how you pronounce it 01:42 and Webster allows us to say it either way. 01:46 Now, when I went to England 01:47 and spoke on the subject of the Tower of Babel, 01:48 they're like, it's Babel. 01:50 So, apparently, they say Babel over there 01:52 in different places, but it's kind of a fun question. 01:54 But yeah, we can say it either way. 01:55 - There you go, see (laughing). 01:58 - No, there's one right answer, I wanna know what it is. 02:00 (everyone laughing) 02:01 - And then another book we'll get on to today 02:04 is "One Race One Blood". 02:07 Now, I tell you this is a topic 02:10 that to me is tearing the world apart right now. 02:13 - Oh, sure is. 02:14 - And that's why I was glad you'd get in here and address it 02:17 in a biblical fashion. 02:18 - It's particularly interesting to me 02:21 because our daughter is Ethiopian. 02:25 - [Bodie] Oh, yeah. 02:26 - And I adore her, I cannot imagine being closer to one. 02:32 In fact, she tells me, 02:33 she goes, "I know, I'm your favorite," 02:35 her brothers know she's the favorite. 02:38 But we completely, 02:40 it doesn't even matter that we don't match. 02:42 - So, you don't think twice about it. 02:43 - No. 02:44 - But we're in a culture that wants to divide that. 02:46 - That wants to say 02:47 that is the most important thing about her. 02:49 That thing that's most important about me 02:51 is that I'm white and she's black, she's African. 02:55 And yet to us we're people, she's my daughter, 02:59 that's all that matters. 03:00 - And see, that's what's happening. 03:01 In our culture, we have been conditioned, 03:03 we've been trained to start subdividing the one human race 03:07 into a multitude of lesser races, 03:10 and higher and lower types of races 03:12 based on the way you look. 03:13 Now, that actually goes back, 03:15 actually, it was a little bit before Charles Darwin 03:17 when people started separating people groups out. 03:20 And that was really the wrong thing to do. 03:22 - It came with the scientific revolution. 03:24 - We have different cultures, 03:25 we have different backgrounds and things like that. 03:28 And yeah, we do look slightly different from each other, 03:30 you guys don't look like me, thank goodness. 03:33 (everyone laughing) 03:34 But the point is, 03:36 yes, we do have variations and that's a good thing. 03:37 The problem was, prior to Darwin 03:39 people started subdividing people by the way they look, 03:42 skin tone, hair, eyes, and so forth. 03:45 And next thing you know, 03:45 by the time you get to Darwin 03:46 there was the higher and lower race concepts 03:49 and they started dividing them out 03:50 in an evolutionary worldview. 03:52 And as an evolutionary worldview 03:54 has really started to dominate our culture, 03:55 whether it's England, Australia, Canada, United States, 03:59 all along the western world. 04:00 In fact, other parts of the world 04:01 as well have been buying into this now. 04:03 They've been subdividing people into higher and lower races 04:06 'cause that's the kind of stuff that Darwin taught, 04:08 and we're seeing those types of issues 04:10 play out right here in our very backyard. 04:13 I thought it was interesting in Brazil, 04:15 spent some time in Brazil 04:17 and there's many white people and many black people 04:20 but they don't even seem to have the race thing. 04:22 It's like it just isn't a thing. 04:25 - There's different forms. 04:27 That's what I've noticed. 04:28 When I was over in Sweden I saw a type of racism, 04:31 when I was in England I saw a type, 04:32 when I was down in Peru I saw a type, 04:33 it was more the people in the city 04:35 versus some of the people up on the hillsides 04:38 and the mountains, it was intriguing seeing that. 04:40 When I was in Australia I saw a type 04:43 that actually kind of surprised me. 04:45 But we see this, see we've been conditioned for it. 04:48 What we need to do is look past those kinds of things 04:50 'cause there's one race. 04:51 If we all go back to Adam and Eve, which we do, 04:52 that's what God in His word says, 04:55 then there's one race, the human race. 04:57 And if you actually go back to an early Webster dictionary, 05:00 sometimes it'll say Adams race, which is really significant, 05:04 there is the human race. 05:05 And yes, we have variations, that's a beautiful thing, 05:08 it really is a wonderful thing. 05:10 I've met people from all over the world 05:11 and they are just amazing. 05:13 - You realize what you're saying is shocking to some people 05:16 maybe that's hearing this. 05:17 You've got to unpack this a little more for them. 05:19 - Yeah, let's do that. 05:20 - Actually, what is odd nowadays 05:22 is that what he's saying about only being one race, 05:25 they would accuse him of being racist for saying that. 05:28 - Oh, yeah absolutely. 05:29 - There's only one race and it doesn't matter. 05:30 - Yeah, which is shocking because here we are, one race. 05:34 We're one ultimate people which means we're all sinners, 05:38 which means they're all in need of Jesus Christ 05:39 no matter what we look like. 05:41 But let's go back to this. 05:42 When you go to the Bible, and you go, you open it up, 05:45 you get up there, God creates Adam uniquely, 05:47 he made him from dust. 05:49 But just because he was made from dust 05:51 doesn't mean he was full of life, 05:52 God actually breathed the life into him. 05:54 So, his life came from God, 05:56 he is made in the image of God. 05:57 The woman, she was made from Adam's side, from a rib, 05:59 flesh of my flesh, bone of my bones. 06:02 She also was made the image of God 06:04 which gives us value over animals, 06:06 it gives us value over plants, 06:07 it gives us value over rocks, 06:09 and the moon and so forth. 06:11 We have an eternal value 06:13 because we are made in the image of an eternal God. 06:17 And see, that's one of the reasons it's so important. 06:19 But we're in a culture where people rejected God 06:20 and His word. 06:21 They wanna throw the Bible out. 06:23 They wanna say, "Well, I don't believe the Bible." 06:25 But here's a good question. 06:26 And this is a question that when somebody objects to God 06:28 and His word anywhere, 06:29 whether it's Genesis, whether it's in Matthew, 06:32 you need to ask the question, 06:33 by what authority do you object to God's absolute authority? 06:38 Do you realize they're stuck in a problem right there? 06:39 Because it has to be a lesser authority, 06:41 'cause God has the greatest authority on every matter. 06:44 - What responses do you get when you ask that question? 06:47 - Usually I get deer in the headlights. 06:49 People go, "Oh, I never really thought of that." 06:51 But that's what it is. 06:53 Logically that's called a faulty appeal to authority 06:56 or a false authority fallacy. 06:58 You're appealing to man to be superseding God. 07:02 So, think about that. 07:03 When you object to God, who do you appeal to? 07:06 You appeal to yourself or someone else? 07:07 - Yourself because you think you're self god. 07:09 - Right, and that's what it is. 07:09 - You're the ultimate authority. 07:11 - You're elevating yourself to a God like position, 07:13 that's actually the religion of humanism. 07:14 So, that's what this comes down to. 07:16 It's a battle over God and His word 07:18 versus man and man's word, the religion of humanism. 07:21 And God's always right, I just want people to know that. 07:24 - So I guess the question is, it started out just fine 07:27 in the Garden of Eden, how did it fall apart? 07:29 - Yeah, well, you know God, 07:31 God's a perfect God and he made everything perfect. 07:33 And that's what we expected from a perfect God, 07:35 was the perfect creation. 07:36 Deuteronomy 32:4 says, "Every work of God is perfect." 07:39 And that's what we got, was a perfect creation. 07:41 At the end of the creation week, 07:42 God created everything in six days, rested on the seventh. 07:45 This isn't a problem for an all powerful God 07:46 to create everything in six days or to create man and woman. 07:49 That's not a problem for him, it was perfect. 07:51 Genesis 131 says, "God saw all the he had made 07:56 and declared it very good," it really was perfect. 07:59 Now, think about that for a second. 08:01 It's tough for us to imagine a perfect world, 08:02 a world with no death or bloodshed, or cancer, 08:05 or heart problems, or no baldness. 08:08 (everyone laughing) 08:10 - You could have had a good full head of hair there. 08:11 - But it really was perfect. 08:14 But you see, Adam and Eve sinned against God. 08:17 They were given very few commands, be fruitful, multiply. 08:20 They were told not to eat from the fruit 08:21 of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, 08:23 which is a real tree. 08:24 It's not an apple tree and don't even confuse with that. 08:27 But when they ate from that fruit 08:30 they basically said, "Okay, God, we see what you said 08:33 but here's what we think." 08:34 And therefore, they elevated their own thoughts 08:36 to supersede God and his work, they did the same thing. 08:38 - And it never works. 08:39 - And it doesn't work. 08:41 - And God cursed the ground, he cursed the animals, 08:42 he sentenced man to die, 08:43 that's why we see death and suffering. 08:47 As a result of the ground being cursed 08:49 we need a new heavens and a new earth. 08:50 That's why we need a savior Jesus Christ 08:52 to save us from sin and death. 08:54 That's why we see tsunamis and horrible atrocities, 08:57 and all sorts of terrible things in our culture 08:59 as a result of sin. 09:01 - There's so many people now 09:02 that think that's all God's fault. 09:04 Everything we look at that's bad is God's fault. 09:07 Your health problems is God's fault, it's God's fault. 09:09 - Yeah, and you know what? 09:10 That's what happens when people ignore Genesis 3. 09:13 Sometimes people look back, 09:15 and I see this a lot of children's Bibles too. 09:17 And God loves the Children's Bible writers, love them, 09:20 but a lot of them actually skipped over the fall. 09:23 "Oh, God made the world, it's very good, it's perfect, 09:25 oh, then there's a flood, then the Tower of Babel," 09:27 and they move forward, they skip the fall. 09:30 The fall is so significant 09:31 because the fall is the whole reason we need Jesus 09:34 in the first place, 09:35 it's the whole reason we need a new heavens 09:36 and a new earth, it's the whole reason we need a savior, 09:39 why we need to be redeemed. 09:42 It all goes back to that particular point. 09:43 I don't know if people realize this. 09:45 Genesis 3 is the pivot point of the whole Bible. 09:49 Imagine this, if Adam and Eve wouldn't have sinned, 09:52 all the rest of the Bible, 09:53 you really wouldn't have needed all that. 09:55 Genesis 3, when Adam and Eve sinned against God, 09:57 boom, God then begins solving that sin problem. 10:01 And it's not fully solved 10:02 until we get to Revelation 21 and 22, 10:05 new heavens and a new earth, 10:06 everything is consummated, it's all turned around. 10:08 - Really good point. 10:11 - My grandmother was number 11 in a family of 13 girls 10:17 and she sometimes felt lost in the crowd. 10:20 Do you ever feel that way? 10:22 With nearly 8 billion people in the world 10:25 it's easy to wonder if anyone even notices you're alive. 10:29 But there is someone who notices. 10:32 The Bible says God calls us by name. 10:36 He knows you, knows your name, you're His child. 10:42 If you'd like proof go to talkingdonkeyinternational.org 10:46 and request Offer Number 130 for this free pamphlet, 10:52 there's not another you. 10:57 (gentle music) 11:00 There are so many Christians, not just the world at large, 11:03 but Christians who kind of make most of Genesis, 11:08 at least those first two chapters, 11:10 it's like, "Well, that's not like the rest of the Bible, 11:12 the rest of the Bible we can believe 11:13 especially the New Testament." 11:16 For some Christians the entire Old Testament is suspect. 11:20 Those first two chapters of Genesis, 11:21 it's more like, well, 11:23 that wasn't really meant to be scientific 11:26 or truly historical, it's an allegory. 11:29 And they separate it into a different category 11:32 from the rest of Scripture. 11:33 And I've seen people do that. 11:34 And one of the reasons 11:36 that I would suggest they're doing that 11:37 is because they've been influenced by the world. 11:40 Look at me, I grew up in church, 11:42 I went to Sunday schools, youth programs, 11:44 but at the same time I went to the state schools 11:46 and here's what I would see at the state schools, 11:48 Big Bang, millions of years, evolution, 11:50 you evolved from lower apes. 11:52 You were hunters and gatherers, 11:53 finally got smart enough 11:56 to kinda start doing some other stuff. 11:57 But that's what I've been drilled with. 12:00 So, a lot of Christians, they've been trained by the world, 12:02 and then they come back and they look at Genesis 12:04 they go, "That doesn't match with all this Big Bang 12:05 and millions of years." 12:06 Well, maybe that's an allegory, 12:08 maybe I should reinterpret it. 12:09 But you know what? 12:10 Here's a good way to look at this. 12:12 When it comes to Genesis 1, 12:13 actually Genesis 1 all the way up to Genesis 11, 12:17 how did the other Bible writers take it? 12:19 How did Jesus take it? 12:20 - How did Peter- 12:21 - He obviously, Christ believed that story, he quoted. 12:24 - He did, in Matthew 19, and Mark 10. 12:27 Jesus goes back and he quotes Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 12:31 as literal history 12:32 as the basis for the doctrine of marriage, for example. 12:33 You see, marriage is a doctrine that goes back to the Bible. 12:36 Clothing is a doc, why do we wear clothes? 12:38 Thank you for wearing clothes, by the way. 12:40 (everyone laughing) 12:41 You're probably saying the same thing about me. 12:43 - At my age I look better with clothes. 12:44 (everyone laughing) 12:46 - But that goes back to Genesis 3. 12:48 Adam and Eve were originally naked, they wore no clothes. 12:51 But then when they sinned, 12:52 they immediately realized they're naked, something's wrong. 12:55 And so, they went and they took fig leaves 12:56 and sew together to make covering for themselves. 12:58 I don't know if you've seen fig leaves 12:59 but it's like a tweed. 13:01 They were in a hurry. 13:03 It'll cause a rash and all sorts of stuff. 13:05 But those fig leave coverings were not good enough, 13:07 the punishment for sin was death, 13:08 so, the solution had to involve death. 13:11 And the Lord stepped in 13:12 and he sacrificed animals in Genesis 3:21 to cover that sin 13:15 and that's where the doctrine of clothing comes from. 13:17 And that's actually- 13:19 - The best example of pretension and hypocrisy, 13:22 those leaves. 13:23 - Yes, it really was. 13:24 I want you to kinda focus a little more 13:26 on the cover of this, "One Race One Blood." 13:31 Right now I look at Chicago 13:32 and how many people they kill every day, 13:34 there's a lot of blood being spilled. 13:36 And they talk about, it's all because of racism, 13:39 and which is one blood. 13:44 It's my blood has been shed out there, it's your blood. 13:46 - Those are our relatives. 13:47 - It's our family, yeah, which people can't- 13:48 - It's a sinful human nature that wants to have a hierarchy 13:54 and especially wants to believe 13:56 that whatever level I'm at, 13:57 well, it's higher than your level. 14:00 My uncle was a missionary, Vietnam, 14:03 then the Philippines, and then Rwanda. 14:06 And he said in Rwanda, even among Christian pastors, 14:12 he said it was a meeting of Christian pastors 14:15 and there was one from a particular tribe 14:17 who simply flat out said, "Tutsis were born to rule." 14:24 And he said, "Christianity isn't as old 14:26 as the tribal warfare's." 14:28 And it's not just that area, 14:29 go to anywhere in the world 14:31 and the human tendency 14:33 is to push someone down lower than me. 14:36 - Because we're sinners. 14:39 And what that is, 14:40 that is a corrupted understanding of dominion. 14:42 We're made in the image of a ruling God, 14:43 He gave us something to rule over, 14:45 He gave us the earth to rule over. 14:47 But at the same time now 14:48 people now warp that because of their sinful minds, 14:50 now they wanna rule over each other 14:52 and do that sort of thing. 14:54 - Terry and I have spent quite a bit of time filming 14:57 in certain areas of Africa. 15:00 And it's amazing the slave trade in Africa 15:02 where there're people enslaving each other. 15:06 - It's sinful human nature. 15:07 - It's sinful human nature. 15:10 And that's where we are right now 15:12 but the devils doing a good job of dragging us down. 15:15 - Yeah, sadly he really is. 15:16 But that's why we need to get back to God and His word. 15:19 Whether it's people in Chicago, 15:20 whether it's people in Africa, 15:21 we need to get back to God's word. 15:22 God's word is the absolute authority. 15:24 When people start to understand we're all one race, 15:26 we all go back to Adam and Eve, we're all related, 15:29 all of a sudden you start looking at people different, 15:31 this is a family reunion right here. 15:34 But sometimes I've heard people say, 15:35 "But why do we look so different?" 15:37 some people look, the darker skin, 15:39 some people have different eyes and so forth. 15:41 Some people have lighter skin 15:42 if you go to places like Norway, and Sweden, and so forth. 15:44 And they say, "Why do we see this variation?" 15:46 Well, the Tower of Babel is actually significant for that. 15:49 The Tower of Babel. 15:51 Okay, just big picture, 15:52 you have creation, you have the fall, 15:53 then you have the flood, 15:54 only eight people survived the flood, 15:55 they come off the ark. 15:57 God says, "Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth." 15:58 But Noah's descendants came together 16:00 and built a city and tower, said "Let's not be scattered." 16:02 And so here they are. 16:03 - They felt safer all being together 16:04 even though that's not what God had wanted. 16:06 - Yeah, they felt 16:07 like they're actually trying to defy God's command. 16:10 Was God gonna let them get away with that? 16:11 Not at all. 16:12 So, he came down, he confused their language. 16:13 Now, notice he kept the marriage contracts together. 16:17 The husband and wife still spoke the same language, 16:20 he didn't split apart the married. 16:21 No, he took those different family groups 16:23 and they split to different parts of the world. 16:24 Some went farther than the Middle East, 16:26 some were still closer to the Middle East and so forth. 16:28 But what that did is that split apart the gene pool. 16:30 For example, if me and my wife, 16:33 if somebody took us 16:34 and just put us somewhere on the part of the world, 16:35 and all of a sudden all of our descendants, guess what? 16:38 They would all look kind of like us 16:40 because that's our gene pool. 16:42 So, that's what happened, they got split apart. 16:44 People who ended up in Africa took genes for darker skin, 16:47 people who went to Europe took genes for lighter skin, 16:48 people who went to the Orient 16:50 took genes for the almond shaped eye. 16:51 But you know what? 16:52 We're all humans. 16:53 Those are just variations 16:54 that's just split apart in the gene pool. 16:55 - Bodie, could you maybe even unpack it a little more 16:58 for those who may not. 16:59 We have folks who've never studied the Bible, 17:01 never read it? 17:02 Could you back up just a tad? 17:04 - Yeah, let's do that. 17:06 Let's talk a little bit more specifically 17:07 about the Tower of Babel and its repercussions. 17:10 In fact, let's answer a famous question 17:12 that leads up to that. 17:14 I've heard people say, "Well, where did Cain get his wife?" 17:16 Cain, Abel, and Seth. 17:17 And they said, "Well, where's all these girls they married?" 17:20 Well, Genesis 5:4. 17:21 If you get to Genesis 5, 17:22 it points out Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters, 17:25 so, there were boys and girls. 17:27 - And I imagine that they were quite fertile. 17:30 - Yeah, they probably were 17:31 because their bodies were perfect. 17:33 They probably didn't have the genetic defects. 17:37 I've got some friends who can't have babies 17:39 and it breaks my heart, 17:40 it breaks their hearts in many respects too. 17:42 But that's due to sending the curse 17:44 and mutations that happen. 17:45 - The gene pool at the beginning was perfect. 17:47 - Yeah, it really was. 17:48 Now, originally brothers and sisters could marry, 17:50 that was okay. 17:51 If you look back, 17:52 Abraham married his half sister, Sarah. 17:54 Moses' father actually married his aunt, Jochebed. 17:56 - And after Sarah died he married Keturah, 17:58 I believe, his niece. 18:00 - And so, you have all these close intermarriages. 18:04 It wasn't until Leviticus 18. 18:07 Moses presenting the law, 18:09 God said, "No more close intermarriage." 18:11 So, that all of a sudden. 18:12 - Because our genes were breaking down enough 18:14 that, that was gonna start 18:15 or had started causing problems. 18:17 - And it makes a lot of sense. 18:18 Like right now, 18:19 if I were to marry one of my two sisters, 18:21 they're beautiful, by the way, but that ain't happen. 18:23 (everyone laughing) 18:25 - We got that on camera. 18:28 - But I could have the same genetic defects that she did 18:32 because we got the same ones from mom and dad. 18:34 And of course, if we had children 18:35 then it can show in the offspring. 18:37 So, it makes sense why we wouldn't wanna do that 18:40 to our children. 18:41 So God said, "Hey, let's let's not do that any longer." 18:44 But before that it was okay, 18:45 so, brothers and sisters could originally marry. 18:47 Now, lead that up to the time of the flood, 18:50 only eight people survived the flood. 18:51 You got three couples there and they're brothers 18:54 when you think about that. 18:56 So, all of them are also interrelated 18:58 and all their children and grandchildren 18:59 are closely interrelated. 19:01 And then we get to the events at the Tower of Babel 19:03 where everyone starts to get split apart. 19:05 Some remain right there at Babel, 19:07 some go as far as Egypt, and Greece, 19:10 and different areas in Mesopotamia, 19:11 others continue out even farther. 19:14 Those are where those early civilizations came from. 19:16 We oftentimes think early civilizations, 19:17 you think of Sumeria or Mesopotamia, 19:20 you think of the Indus Valley, 19:21 you think of Egypt or Greece, 19:23 those are those areas in proximity 19:25 not too far from where the Tower of Babel was. 19:27 So, it makes sense why those were the early civilizations 19:30 but those were all different related people 19:32 speaking different languages now, 19:34 they're still interacting with each other. 19:36 Others went further, some went all the way up to the Orient. 19:39 Now, what's interesting, 19:40 in Genesis 10 he gives a breakdown 19:43 of all these different family groups 19:45 that have a new language. 19:48 Now, I don't know if you're like me, 19:49 you've been in a Bible study 19:50 and you see what's coming, 19:52 and you're like, "Please don't call on me 19:53 to read that chapter that's got all those names." 19:55 (everyone laughing) 19:57 And it ends up, 19:59 and you're like, "Oh, how do I even pronounce these?" 20:00 But Genesis 10 is like that, 20:02 it's got some pretty odd names in there. 20:03 But you look at those names 20:05 and a lot of times we have no idea what those names are. 20:07 I look at those names different 20:08 now that I've studied the subject 20:09 and researched these people, 20:11 those names are found all over the world. 20:13 It's absolutely amazing 20:14 and sometimes you don't realize that. 20:17 - I love the etymology of words. 20:19 - Well one of Noah's great grandson's name was Ashkenaz. 20:22 Ashkenaz actually moved up just north of the Black Sea, 20:25 the old name for the Black Sea was the Ashken Sea, 20:27 so you see a reflection of that name. 20:30 Well he moved on up to Central Europe 20:31 and he founded the Germanic peoples. 20:34 That included the English, the Dutch, 20:36 the Scandinavians and all that. 20:37 Well, actually, that word Scandinavian, 20:39 where does that word come from? 20:40 Ascandinavia is a variation of Ashkanez, 20:43 so is the name of Asaxon, 20:45 that's where the name Saxon comes from, 20:46 we say, Anglos, and Saxons and so forth. 20:48 So, you still see a reflection of that name. 20:50 Every time you see Egypt in the Old Testament 20:53 the name behind that as Mitzrayim. 20:54 That's actually one of Noah's grandsons. 20:57 Egypt is called by Noah's grandson. 21:00 Canaan, the land of Canaan, 21:01 Canaan is one of Noah's grandsons. 21:03 We don't sometimes put that together 21:04 but these are actual people 21:06 that have become names of places, 21:08 we find that in places all over the world. 21:10 And I document a lot of that 21:11 in that book, "The Tower of Babel", 21:12 it really is fascinating. 21:15 - So, here we are in planet earth 21:18 in a time when everything seemed like it's tearing apart, 21:21 especially in the United States 21:22 and certain other locales because of race. 21:26 Where does this go? 21:27 And- 21:28 - What should the Christian response to it be? 21:31 - Well, I think we still need to deal with it head on. 21:34 Christianity has the answer. 21:35 You go back to the Bible there's one race, 21:37 that solves it right there, it's that easy. 21:40 But a lot of people don't realize that. 21:41 And I would suggest one of the main reasons 21:42 is because they've been taught and conditioned by the world 21:45 to believe a false worldview. 21:47 So, we have to deal with it at a worldview issue. 21:50 I understand that a lot of my friends and colleagues 21:52 even in the science realm, 21:54 if they bought into the world's ideas on this, 21:56 but sometimes I need to go back 21:57 and say, "Hold on a second here." 21:59 Scientifically there's one race, 22:00 they've been able to map the human genome. 22:01 And guess what, even the secular researchers out here go, 22:04 "Wow, there's only one race." 22:06 That kinda surprised him when that actually occurred. 22:09 So, when you look at the science, 22:11 the science actually is a good confirmation 22:13 of the Scripture. 22:14 It's just a lot of people don't realize that 22:16 because like I said, it's a worldview issue. 22:19 People have bought into this secular, humanistic worldview, 22:22 believing that there are higher and lower races 22:24 because they've been drilled with an evolutionary worldview. 22:28 - I won't mention his name, 22:30 but a very revered Christian founder and leader, 22:35 I came across something that he had written 22:38 about how it didn't really matter 22:40 whether God created in literal six days, 22:44 or whether it was six eons, millions of years, 22:46 God can do anything. 22:48 He goes, "It doesn't affect your relationship with God 22:51 which way you believe." 22:52 But I think it does reflect your relationship to God, 22:56 whether you believe in what he said in Genesis 22:59 or whether you buy into the millions of years, 23:01 it's kind of just an accident. 23:04 - It makes our testimony very inconsistent, doesn't it? 23:06 When they're saying, "Oh, well, you got to follow Christ 23:09 up here, oh, but don't believe this part of the Bible, 23:10 you got to reinterpret it." 23:12 What it is, is a lot of Christians 23:14 and I say this with a kindness 23:18 because I kind of did this a little bit 23:20 when I was in college. 23:21 Christians are taking what they read in the Bible 23:24 and coming over to the world's ideas 23:25 and trying to mix it. 23:27 They're trying to put two different religions 23:28 and they don't mix, so something has to give. 23:30 And usually what happens, 23:31 Christians start giving up the Bible. 23:32 Maybe day doesn't mean a day, 23:34 maybe the evenings and mornings, 23:35 maybe Adam and Eve didn't exist. 23:37 Those are the kinds of things that people start doing, 23:39 they start throwing out the Bible. 23:40 They shouldn't do it that way, 23:42 the Bible should be the absolute authority. 23:43 So, I actually struggled with that 23:45 because I didn't know my, well, God did create six days? 23:47 Here I was in science field, 23:49 I'm being taught and drilled with Big Bang 23:51 and millions of years 23:52 and I didn't know how to deal with some of that. 23:53 So, I actually toyed with that idea trying to mix the two. 23:56 And I remember reading a, 23:58 this was from a Christian guy who believed in Big Bang 24:01 and millions of years. 24:03 And I read his book right next to the Bible. 24:05 And every time he mentioned Genesis, or creation, 24:08 I went back and read it, the whole thing in context. 24:11 I read Genesis chapter one probably hundreds of times 24:13 as a result of just going through this one book. 24:16 And when I got to the end I remember shutting this book, 24:18 and I said, "If this is the best Christianity has, 24:20 do I wanna be a Christian?" 24:21 I remember thinking that. 24:23 And then I sat down 24:25 and I remember looking at the Bible just sitting there. 24:27 And you know what? 24:27 God's never wrong. 24:28 So, God is right, this guy's wrong. 24:30 But that was tough for me 24:32 'cause I struggled with that issue. 24:33 See, God is the one who's always right, God is always right. 24:37 - And if have an idea that doesn't match 24:39 guess who's gone off course. 24:40 - That's right, and you know what? 24:41 That was tough for someone like me 24:43 'cause I had to go, "Okay, I got to stop believing this. 24:45 I got to stop believing 24:46 and I gotta get back to God and His word." 24:48 And you know what? 24:49 There is some academic pride in there 24:50 and it's just a struggle. 24:51 You've got to humble yourself 24:53 and say, "Okay, Lord, you're the one that's right." 24:55 But you know what? 24:56 Once you get in the habit 24:57 of going, "God, you're always right," guess what? 24:58 I can read something in the Bible. 24:59 Go, "Oh, hold on a second, 25:01 okay, I see what you're saying, God, I got this wrong." 25:04 But God, it's not just a matter 25:06 of you either believe in science 25:08 or you just go on blind faith of what God said is right 25:11 because he gives us plenty of evidence 25:14 that what he says is right. - Oh, He sure does. 25:15 Yeah, and see a lot of people don't understand this. 25:18 They don't realize 25:19 that science is actually an incredible confirmation 25:21 of the Bible. 25:22 A lot of times people wanna take science 25:23 and they say, "Oh, well, that's the same thing 25:25 as evolution, Big Bang." 25:26 No, it's not, science is observable and repeatable, 25:28 it is a process. 25:29 Nobody has observed or repeated the Big Bang, 25:31 or millions of years of evolution, 25:33 nobody's ever observed or repeated those things, 25:34 that's part of religion. 25:36 See, science actually comes out of a worldview 25:38 that is based on God and His word. 25:40 And sometimes people don't quite get that. 25:43 Let me explain, let me unpack that part for you. 25:45 - We don't have a lot of time so get unpacking quickly. 25:46 - Okay, let me unpack that quick. 25:48 God is the one who sustains and upholds the world 25:51 and he has promised to do so in a particular way. 25:53 That's what makes observable, repeatable science possible, 25:56 science actually comes out of a biblical worldview. 25:58 And most fields of science 26:00 were actually developed by Bible believers. 26:01 - Just real quickly, 26:03 if you can give one minute counsel 26:06 on people who are having trouble with this right now 26:08 in their lives. 26:09 - Yeah, you know what? 26:10 A lot of people I know have struggled 26:11 with the issue of race. 26:12 In fact, sometimes somebody may have been racist 26:15 toward them 26:16 or sometimes they may have been racist to someone else. 26:17 Sometimes they may not have realized it. 26:19 But here's what I want people to gather out of that. 26:22 The Lord is a forgiving God, just repent. 26:26 Don't be afraid to go to somebody say, "Hey, you know what? 26:28 I may have treated you wrong." 26:29 Or if you can't find 'em, ask God, "Hey, forgive me." 26:32 And let's get back to God's word, 26:34 let's get back to the fact that there's only one race, 26:35 the human race, and we're all related. 26:38 And we're all stuck in this problem together 26:41 but there's a solution in Jesus Christ. 26:42 - Amen, Amen. 26:44 Folks, there isn't a racist bone in the body of God. 26:48 God didn't create us as racist. 26:51 You just heard Bodie say it, 26:53 there's one blood, one race, one humankind. 26:57 We're all one family. 26:59 We need to look to Jesus Christ and pray for this earth, 27:01 pray for United States, and the world, 27:04 and what's going on right now 27:06 'cause the devil is having a field day. 27:09 Bodie, thank you so much, appreciate it. 27:10 - God bless you guys. 27:12 - I'm so glad we got a chance to sit with you. 27:15 My grandmother was number 11 in a family of 13 girls 27:21 and she sometimes felt lost in the crowd. 27:23 Do you ever feel that way? 27:25 But there is someone who notices. 27:28 If you'd like proof go to talkingdonkeyinternational.org 27:32 and request offer number 130 for this free pamphlet. 27:38 There's not another you. 27:42 (bright music) 27:46 - Thank you for watching, 27:47 join us again for another exciting "Country Wisdom". 27:49 - See you next time. 27:51 (bright music) |
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