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00:01 Welcome to "For Guys Only,"
00:02 a program that deals with topics 00:04 specifically targeted for the urban man. 00:06 I'm Pastor William Lee, and I'm so thankful that 00:08 you've joined us yet for another episode on today. 00:11 Today, we have a very interesting 00:13 but yet challenging topic. 00:15 Today, we're going to talk about sexual addiction. 00:18 I challenge you even right now to open up your heart 00:20 as we go and listen to what God has to say to us on today. 00:41 Gentlemen, just want to welcome you again 00:43 to another broadcast today. 00:45 We are so thankful that 00:46 we are able to be here to discuss issues 00:49 that are pertinent to the urban man. 00:51 I just want to begin just discussing 00:53 a little bit of our background 00:55 a little bit so that our viewers 00:56 can understand our perspective and where we're coming from. 00:58 Let me start with you, Brandon. 01:01 Okay, my name is Brandon Dent. 01:03 And I am a retired auto executive. 01:06 I worked in the industry 27 years, 01:09 and now I'm running my own marketing company. 01:12 And I'm married, 27 years as well. 01:15 I've raised two sons 01:16 and I have a teenage daughter at home 01:18 and I'm happy to be on the program today. 01:20 All right, thank you, Brandon. My name is Colin King. 01:23 I'm a clinical psychologist. 01:26 I've worked with various clinical syndromes, 01:30 substance abuse, sexual abuse, 01:33 violence against women and against children 01:36 for the past 17 years. 01:38 I have two children, teenage children. 01:41 And I've been married for 21 years. 01:43 All right, very good. Thank you, Dr. King. 01:46 My name is Muta Mwenya. 01:47 And I am director for Elijah 3 Ministries, 01:50 urban youth evangelism ministry. 01:53 I've been working in the urban community 01:55 for the past five years. 01:57 And I'm married, I have two children. 02:00 And I've been married for seven years, yeah. 02:02 Okay. Well, good. 02:04 Good, good. Thank you so much, Muta. 02:05 And myself, of course, I'm Pastor William Lee. 02:08 Pastor of the Capital City Seventh-day church 02:10 in Indianapolis, Indiana, part of the lake region 02:13 conference of Seventh-day Adventist. 02:15 Like you, Muta, I've been married 02:16 for seven years to the love of my life 02:18 and we have two children as well. 02:21 Let's kind of just kind of jump in it right now 02:24 because we know that this topic, 02:27 this discussion is the one that it must be had in the time 02:31 that we're living in right now, sexual addiction. 02:34 Our statistic that one says that 02:36 one out of five men deal with pornography, 02:40 one out of five Christian men that is deal with pornography. 02:44 This is something that's eating up marriages, 02:46 something that's eating up our spiritual lives. 02:49 And we just want to be 02:51 able to have a discussion to recognize that 02:53 that there is power in victory in Jesus Christ 02:56 as we go forward. 02:57 Let me read a scripture as well. 03:00 Apostle Paul says in Colossians 3:5-7, 03:03 the Bible says, "Put to death, therefore, 03:05 whatever brings to your earthly nature, 03:08 sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, 03:12 and greed, which is idolatry. 03:14 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. 03:18 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived". 03:22 Paul says that, you know, these vices, you know, 03:25 they use to wrap their arms around 03:27 and so to speak. 03:29 But now, you know, 03:30 they're walking the newness of life. 03:32 So we have a glimpse of hope in scripture that 03:35 the sins that have or the addictions 03:38 that have maybe wrapped their arms around men 03:41 before that they can have a victory. 03:43 Let's kind of drill down 03:45 and have that discussion right now. 03:47 Dr. King, can you give us 03:48 maybe a little bit of a historical perspective 03:51 maybe as relates to sexual sins? 03:54 Yeah, let me start, first of all, 03:56 with the violence as a whole. 03:58 Okay. 03:59 By the time our children, your child, 04:02 my child starts elementary school, 04:05 he or she would have witnessed 8,000 murders on TV 04:11 and 100,000 acts of violence. 04:15 Now by the time they turned 18, 04:18 they would have witnessed 32,000 murders on TV 04:23 and 40,000 attempted murders. 04:28 Sexual addiction and scenes of pornography 04:33 supersedes in terms of quantity, 04:38 acts of murder because we are inundated 04:43 with scenes of different sexual positions. 04:50 Let me give you an example. 04:52 And this is why this problem is going to become an epidemic. 04:57 Now you cannot buy a phone, 05:01 let's say, an iPhone or a Blackberry 05:04 without a data package. 05:08 We know that, right? Right. 05:09 And I see kids now with iPhones and Blackberries. 05:14 And so they now have instant access 05:18 to pornography. 05:20 And for whatever reason, 05:22 the devil has capitalized on that 05:26 and he has made it 05:27 so available that our young boys 05:30 and our young girls are constantly, 05:33 moment by moment, 05:34 inundated with scenes of pornography. 05:40 Sexting has also become a huge issue where your child, 05:45 my child will receive sex messages from friends 05:49 or from total strangers. 05:51 And as a result of that, 05:54 it's now easier to become addicted. 05:56 God created us, in our brain structure, 06:02 there is a section called the limbic system. 06:06 And in that system is a tiny structure called 06:09 the amygdale, and that is responsible 06:12 for capturing pleasurable scenes 06:15 or memories. 06:17 For instance, if I asked you, 06:19 where were you on 9/11 06:21 when the planes hit the Twin Towers? 06:23 You can tell me exactly where you were 06:25 and what you were doing 06:27 because the amygdala captured that picture, that image. 06:31 Well, it's the same structure 06:33 that is responsible for addiction. 06:36 And now that pornography 06:38 and these scenes are so readily available, 06:41 like it or not, 06:42 those scenes are being captured, 06:45 they're being trapped, 06:46 and they're being replayed in the amygdala. 06:50 Now, Dr. King, you've mentioned sexting, 06:53 and I want you to discuss a little bit more 06:55 because you said that, you know, our young people 06:57 with their phones can receive messages, 07:00 you know, from strangers or from people they know, 07:04 that brought a red flag in my mind, 07:05 what do you mean by this whole notion of sexting? 07:08 Well, it's the idea of sending 07:12 or receiving images on one's cell phone. 07:18 As you know, most of our kids have cell phones, 07:22 and cell phones not just with data package 07:25 but with the ability to receive and send text. 07:27 And I was watching one stat which says that 07:30 every child on an average will receive 07:33 about one sex message per day. 07:37 And that is simply receiving some type of a nude person, 07:42 a suggestive message, 07:46 maybe even an obscene remark 07:48 from one of their friends or a total stranger. 07:51 You know, what's amazing is that, 07:53 you know, with my email account, 07:55 you know, in my junk mail or even in my inbox, 07:59 it's not uncommon, I think, 08:01 you know, most people experience 08:03 this where they get a total, you know, 08:05 a message from a stranger. 08:07 And if you click on that message, 08:09 it looks innocent, 08:10 but it may be a pornographic scene, 08:13 it may be some kind of advertisement 08:16 that's going to captivate you right away. 08:19 And I think what the devil has done 08:22 and what he really wants to do is to get people, 08:24 especially young people, 08:25 exposed, you know, just to get their eyes 08:28 because the Bible says that, you know, 08:30 when Adam and Eve sinned, their eyes were opened. 08:33 And they were able to see that they were naked at that point. 08:36 And I think it goes from the beginning of sin 08:39 to we are right now. 08:40 And I think we had to be so careful, 08:42 especially as parents that are watching right now, 08:45 with your children, with your email addresses, 08:47 with your cell phones, you know, as a parent, 08:50 you know, I'm thinking right now, 08:51 you know, my son is just five years old, 08:53 but if, you know, he's older, 08:54 let me start checking this right now. 08:56 Let me, you know, if I'm paying the bill, 08:57 especially let me make sure that, 08:58 you know, everything that's going on is right 09:01 and that they are not being exposed to things 09:03 that are contrary to our belief system. 09:07 And the issue is that, you know, 09:09 sex was created by God. 09:10 Right. 09:12 So sex was meant to be addictive. 09:13 Right. 09:15 The same parts of the brain that are responsible 09:18 for religious thinking are the same parts 09:22 that are responsible for sexual activity, 09:25 which is why, which is why it's easy 09:28 and natural for us 09:30 to get into habit of devotion or prayer 09:34 and repeat, you know, daily, you know, 09:36 how many times a day do you pray? 09:38 I don't know, maybe two, three times a day? 09:40 It's repetitive, it's addictive, 09:44 but that's the same part of the brain 09:46 that is responsible for sexual addiction. 09:49 Okay. Okay. 09:50 I'm glad you stopped right there. 09:52 As we opened up a little bit more 09:53 that we do recognize that, 09:54 you know, sex is created by God, 09:57 and He wants it to be confound within the parameters, 10:00 the right parameters 10:02 between a married husband and wife 10:05 and is to be enjoyable in those parameters. 10:07 But when we stepped outside of those parameters 10:10 and started doing things our own way, you know, 10:13 the Bible says in Genesis 6:5 that 10:15 man had become so wicked that they started conceiving 10:19 things in their mind and began to act out 10:21 in our world today. 10:22 And I think is just what we're seeing today 10:24 is part of that wickedness 10:27 that started way back then as well. 10:30 Let's go talk a little bit more about pornography 10:33 and its effects upon men, 10:36 especially there's a man right now, 10:39 I may had said it earlier, one out of five Christian men, 10:41 this is what it says, are addicted to pornography. 10:45 Why is it so gripping? 10:46 I know you talked about it a little bit, 10:48 but what else is there? 10:50 You know, what effect does it have upon the mind 10:52 and the heart of an individual? 10:53 You see, even before we go there, 10:56 why is it so addictive? 10:58 It is because there's a sense of anonymity, 11:01 you know, especially using the computer. 11:04 So you have a sense that you may be alone, 11:06 it's after midnight or whatever time, 11:08 no one else is aware and so you are in the privacy 11:12 of your bedroom or home office or whatever it is. 11:16 And you have this false sense that you're alone 11:19 and no one else is aware. 11:22 So there's this false sense of security. 11:26 And the problem is, 11:27 once you engage in the activity, 11:30 it can become addictive. 11:33 And then you want to go back again 11:35 and again and again. 11:37 And as in the case of any addiction, 11:40 you need more to produce the same feeling of elation. 11:46 Just like if you're taking crack cocaine, 11:48 just like if you're drinking alcohol 11:50 or smoking marijuana, you begin to develop 11:54 what we call tolerance. 11:56 So if you are viewing the site two times a day, 12:00 now you need to view the site 12:02 three, four, five, six times a day 12:04 to get the same high. 12:06 And that's the problem. Okay. Okay. 12:08 Brandon, you know, 12:09 as you have raised two adult boys, 12:13 you know, they're very successful, 12:16 even right now, what have been 12:17 some of the steps that you've taken, 12:18 especially, you know, 12:20 did you have a talk with your boy, so to speak? 12:22 Did you talk about sexual things 12:24 so that they will know proper parameters 12:27 to deal with as relates to their body, 12:29 especially being the temple of God? 12:31 Yeah. 12:32 One of the things that I recognized early on 12:35 is that the point in time 12:38 where we, good Christian folks, 12:40 think it's good to start having those discussions 12:43 are actually too late 12:44 because the other side is not waiting that long 12:50 to get their legs in 12:52 with all these concepts of inordinate affections 12:55 and all this other kind of stuff. 12:57 So when my children were in elementary school, 13:01 there were, you know, I would phase it in, 13:04 there were certain things 13:05 that I would start to share with them. 13:07 And then I remember my youngest son, Brian, 13:12 he was in the third grade, 13:13 he said, "Daddy, where does babies come from?" 13:15 I gave him the entire story. Oh, wow. 13:18 I talked about, you know, how God designed men and women 13:23 to procreate and gave him the entire story. 13:27 I did it in a sense where he could appreciate it. 13:31 And I think I have found myself coming in pretty early 13:35 with my children to give them the story. 13:39 There are a few other things that we've done. 13:42 We try to really scan what comes in our house 13:44 in terms of advertisements, magazines, 13:49 even catalogues from stores 13:52 'cause they have underwear sections in them 13:54 and things like that. 13:55 We try to really scan that and make sure that 13:58 we don't have any of that stuff in our home. 14:00 It may come in, 14:01 we try to get it out of the way. 14:04 The other thing is we didn't give them phones 14:08 until they went away to college. 14:09 Okay. Okay. 14:11 We were seemed a bit stringent. 14:14 But my sons tell me now, 14:15 you know, "It's the right thing to do." 14:17 And now that they have a sister at home, 14:19 they're saying, "Do the same thing with her. 14:22 Do the same thing with her." Okay. 14:25 I did, at one point in time, 14:27 have a computer where they kind of had exclusive access to it. 14:32 And then later came back and change that. 14:34 Keep the computer in the family room 14:38 so you can use it 14:39 where everybody can see what you up to. 14:42 So you have to do things, 14:43 you have to be strategic about dissuading. 14:45 The other thing I did do 14:47 is I never let my kids go to the movies. 14:49 And people say, "Man, this..." 14:52 you know, but, you know, they were involved in sports 14:54 and all kinds of things. 14:56 And we talked about one of the elders at our church 14:58 that keep young people involved in sports 15:02 and basketball. 15:03 They were involved in those things. 15:04 And so they had other things to do. 15:07 It's not like, 15:08 we just pulled these things away, 15:10 we kept them busy doing other things. 15:11 And I told my kids, "So, you know, 15:13 you get used to going 15:15 to the theater to see innocuous things, 15:18 what you get used to doing is going to the theater. 15:22 And there will be a day 15:23 where you go as a teenager with your friends 15:25 and not with me. 15:26 And if your teenagers are saying, 15:28 'You only watch G rated movies?'" 15:30 That peer pressure thing will pull you 15:32 into the other theater with them. 15:34 And then even if it's just an action flick, 15:37 there's going to be some R rated love scene 15:39 or something in there, 15:41 some frontal nudity or what have you. 15:42 And it's like I think it was Dr. King or no, 15:45 it was you saying that exposure, 15:48 you only need to be exposed one time. 15:50 And then you set that thing in motion. 15:52 So that was my thing. 15:54 And so my wife and I, even though we felt 15:56 we could go and watch things that were proper, 16:00 we just stopped going after we had children 16:04 because we want it 16:05 what we were saying we want to live it as well. 16:08 Okay, okay. 16:09 Muta, kind of help us understand as well, 16:11 especially as you minister 16:12 to young urban youth the impacts, 16:16 that peer pressure, you know, 16:18 has upon them wanting to experiment 16:21 with sexuality at such a young age, 16:23 what's been your experience with that? 16:28 You know, it's a different dynamic, 16:32 I guess, with the situation 16:33 that I work in because a lot of my youth, 16:36 it's not even peer pressure that they're exposed to. 16:40 It could be mom, it could be dad, 16:43 who's letting people come in and out the house. 16:46 And they know exactly what's happening. 16:47 I know there was a friend of mine 16:50 who told me about a home that he went to. 16:53 And he found it a little odd 16:55 that when he walked into the home... 16:57 He's a social worker. 16:59 And when he walked into the home, 17:01 immediately, all the kids fouled up 17:04 and went upstairs. 17:06 And as soon as he left, 17:08 they came right back downstairs. 17:09 And every time he went in, 17:11 the woman that he was working with, 17:14 she was dealing with a lot of sexual addiction. 17:16 I mean, that was one of the major issues 17:18 that was going on in her life. 17:19 So with some of the young people 17:21 I deal with, 17:23 it's not necessarily peer pressure, 17:24 but it does play a big role in it. 17:27 There's so much access, 17:30 I remember, when I was a little younger, 17:33 we didn't have the Internet readily available. 17:36 So you had to wait for magazines 17:38 or somebody had to know somebody 17:40 who knew somebody who had a video or a magazine. 17:43 But now I mean, it's absolutely everywhere. 17:46 TV, PG 13, now might as well just be rated R. 17:50 There is not only sexual scenes, 17:54 but there's cursing and all types of foolishness 17:57 that's going on in these shows 17:58 that it's so hard to keep them away from it 18:04 because it's everywhere, it's everywhere. 18:07 And so it's really tough and with our situation 18:11 that I work in, 18:13 it's just hard to pull them away from it 18:16 'cause it's just happening all around. 18:18 But, you know, you're absolutely right. 18:20 And this is how widespread it is. 18:22 The Bible said that the minds of men 18:25 or the hearts of men will become desperately wicked 18:29 so that our very imagination 18:32 will be evil continually. 18:35 There's a certain airline, 18:37 I'm not going to name it, 18:38 but you log on to purchase an airline ticket. 18:42 And there's a woman on there, clothed, 18:45 and after about two seconds, 18:47 her dress is removed, and she's skimpily clad. 18:51 So it is so readily available and it's so pervasive 18:57 that it's almost impossible to avoid it. 19:01 You know, and this is the point that, 19:03 you know, where that thing needs to brought out is that 19:06 we have to be the watchmen, you know, on the wall, 19:09 so to speak, you know, one day I was... 19:12 I was in the opposite room where my son was, 19:15 he was much younger 19:16 and he was watching a kid's cartoon, 19:19 it's a kids' program. 19:21 And I was in the other room working on my computer, 19:23 and I could hear just, you know, 19:25 what was going on on the TV show, 19:28 and they were discussing desperate houseplants. 19:33 And it was the innuendo was from Desperate Housewives. 19:38 And they were using all the same, 19:40 you know, parallels and all the same things 19:43 that you find on this adult sitcoms, 19:47 adult TV program, 19:48 and they were just really just break it down 19:50 so that the kids 19:51 will understand the same things. 19:53 When I walked in, 19:54 and I turned it off immediately. 19:56 Now I was disgusted to see that 19:59 media is so much targeting our young people 20:03 at such a young age that if they get addicted, 20:06 you know, at that age, 20:08 I mean, it may last throughout life 20:09 if the chains are not broken. 20:11 And just imagine when he gets a cell phone 20:14 with this data package, you are not going to be 20:17 able to monitor that 20:19 because it's going to be automatic. 20:21 I want to say right now he's not getting a cell phone. 20:23 So what my heart wants is I want to protect them 20:26 so much like he doesn't go through this avenue. 20:29 But not only that but the other thing is... 20:30 Now that I can't do that, 20:32 he'll have a cell phone I'm sure, 20:34 you know, he'll have his own job, 20:35 buy his own cell phone. 20:36 But the reality is that also the social media aspect 20:39 that we kind of touched upon a little bit as well, 20:41 is that I think as parents, 20:43 and I want to talk to the parents even right now 20:45 that you need to be so careful 20:48 with social media, allowing your children 20:50 especially at such a young age to be on social media. 20:54 There was another, you know, you deal with Facebook, 20:58 especially as relates to our young people 21:00 ministering to them. 21:01 Not long ago, there was this crash, 21:04 you know, on large social media 21:06 where it was been overloaded with pornographic images. 21:11 I mean, you log on to Facebook and I mean, status after status 21:16 was loaded with pornography, whether it was unintentional 21:20 or not, it's just the reality, it did happen. 21:23 And again, eyes were exposed or whatnot and people, 21:28 I would imagine, 21:30 you then probably became addicted 21:31 and started going further 21:32 because they were exposed to what during that medium. 21:36 To a parent, you know, 21:37 I'm saying stand up and be a parent. 21:39 Yes. 21:41 And really monitor what's been going on, 21:43 there are some things we also can do as well, 21:45 as with the filters for our computers. 21:48 And I know, you know, our children are so savvy that 21:51 they sometimes they can get around filters, 21:53 but that may be one avenue to say, you know, 21:55 well, I'm gonna put, like you said, 21:56 Brandon put a computer in a central location where, 21:59 you know, everybody can see it, 22:01 you know, and then put a filter on it 22:03 so that they're able to access, 22:05 you know, every single thing on the Internet, as well. 22:10 So let's talk a bit more, you know, 22:13 what else can we do? 22:14 You know, let's give some hope. What can we do? 22:17 You know, it comes back to what we were talking about 22:19 in the early episode about parenting styles, 22:22 you know, you can be 22:24 the domineering parent who says, 22:27 "This is what I'm going to do, 22:28 and this is what you're gonna do," 22:30 and as soon as they get to the age of accountability, 22:33 then you no more have influence over them. 22:35 So we've got to teach our children 22:38 to make wise decisions. 22:40 We've got to teach them to view appropriate content 22:45 and to take the time to explain the implications 22:49 of going after those sites, you know, 22:52 we need to talk about the dangers of addiction 22:55 because an addiction is a terrible thing. 22:58 There is not... 22:59 Once one becomes addicted, the pleasure goes out of it. 23:03 Until now what you have 23:05 is the obsession and the compulsion. 23:08 And 9 times out of 10 the person is miserable. 23:12 And when that addiction or when that avenue is removed, 23:16 the person can actually 23:17 go through a period of depression. 23:20 So an addiction is a terrible thing. 23:23 And so we need to teach them to make wise choices, 23:26 we need to explain the ramifications, you know, 23:29 rather than always thinking 23:30 that we've got to remove this medium. 23:32 In addition to doing that, 23:34 we've got to teach and mentor them. 23:35 That's good. 23:37 You know, as you were speaking, 23:38 a thought came to my mind as well that because again, 23:42 it's so challenging that there's a man, 23:45 he's listening to us right now, 23:46 who, I mean, he does not want to confess to his wife 23:50 that he's addicted to pornography. 23:52 I mean, he doesn't want anybody to know 23:55 because it's one of those again, 23:56 dark addictions that we, you know, people like, 24:00 do I dare say anything? 24:02 You know, I've had people come to me as a pastor, 24:04 and say, "Pastor, you know, I'm addicted, what do I do?" 24:07 You know, and it is this sense of guilt. 24:10 Not only that but they bring it to marriage, their marriage, 24:14 and their marriage suffers tremendously 24:19 because now they're living in fantasy 24:22 and in real life, and they see fantasy, 24:25 and they want to do things that they've seen in fantasy 24:29 with their wives that are so contrary, 24:31 so twisted, so morphed that, 24:35 I mean, they're just in a strong hold, you know? 24:39 What do we say? 24:41 And I really want us to pinpoint on it 24:43 and try to bring, you know, 24:45 some hope, and even from God's Word 24:48 to the person who's struggling right now, 24:49 that's watching right now, so, you know, "That's me, 24:52 I know exactly what you're saying, 24:53 because, you know, 24:55 I'm addicted," what can we say to that person? 24:57 You know, God has the ability to heal and to restore. 25:02 So our very first line of defense 25:05 must be to seek God and to seek Him earnestly 25:09 and to reach out, 25:11 and to first of all actually admit that 25:13 we have a problem because if we don't admit that 25:15 we have a problem, then how can we be helped. 25:18 Outside of spiritual solutions, 25:22 there are multiple agencies 25:25 who have specialists in addiction, 25:28 sexual addictions, and, you know, 25:31 we should not and must not be ashamed 25:33 to reach out and say, you know, "I have a problem." 25:37 There's multiple hotlines, 25:38 I don't have numbers available right now. 25:40 But those are certainly available, 25:42 whereby we can reach out and say, "I have a problem, 25:45 and I need to be helped because it's killing me." 25:48 Yeah, I was also gonna say, and there was some study 25:52 that was done 25:53 and trying to pinpoint the best reason, 25:58 the most frequent reason why children obey. 26:03 And it wasn't because of punishment 26:05 or fear of punishment or anything like it. 26:07 It wasn't because they didn't desire 26:11 to participate in a certain behavior. 26:14 It said that the most prevalent reason 26:15 why children obey was because they did not want... 26:20 They wanted the approval of their parents. 26:23 They didn't want their parents to be ashamed of them. 26:26 Not that they didn't want to do it, 26:28 they wanted to do it. 26:29 But they regarded their parents' approval more. 26:33 And I think we get that through love, 26:37 when we let our children know that we love them, 26:40 that God loves them, 26:42 and that they need to love themselves. 26:44 That's good, that's good. 26:45 In the last minute, 26:46 let me just speak to this man right now 26:48 who's struggling right now. 26:50 And first of all, let me say again, 26:51 let's admit that there's a problem there. 26:54 Let's really be sincere and say, 26:56 "You know what, I've struggled, 26:57 I've seen things, I've viewed things. 26:59 I've gone places, I've done things 27:01 that were contrary really to the rule of God," 27:04 but you're also saying that, "I want to do better. 27:05 I want to break this addiction." 27:07 The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 6:19, 27:12 the Bible says "What? 27:13 Know you not that your body 27:15 is the temple of the Holy Ghost, 27:18 which is in you, which you have of God, 27:21 you are not your own. 27:23 For you are bought with a price, 27:25 therefore glorify God in your body, 27:28 and in your spirit, which are God's." 27:31 The Bible says that our body does not belong to us. 27:34 But the Bible says that greater is He 27:37 that lives in us than he that is in the world. 27:40 1 John 4:4. 27:42 We have, you have the power, 27:45 through the power of the Holy Spirit 27:47 to pull down strong holds. 27:49 Mighty are the weapons 27:51 that God has given us to free us 27:52 from every addiction, whether it's sexual, alcohol, 27:55 whatever it is, if we just fully submit to God, 27:59 He can bring the change. 28:00 As well as we said, you know, science and going to clinics 28:05 that people can lay hands 28:06 and really get help that we need. 28:09 Guys, time is up again. 28:11 But I pray that those who watched today were blessed. 28:14 May God continue to keep you in His loving grace 28:16 and may you recognize that 28:17 you have the power through Jesus Christ. 28:20 God bless you. |
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