Optimize 4 Life

Optimize Your Skeletal System

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Dick Nunez & Jay Sutcliffe (Host), Lisa Nunez


Series Code: OFL

Program Code: OFL000007A

00:01 According to the American Journal
00:02 of Clinical Nutrition,
00:04 calcium related disease is caused by a lack of calcium
00:06 consumption is not known to occur in humans at all.
00:09 Now, it's not saying
00:11 they're not calcium related diseases.
00:12 It's just that it's not caused by lack of calcium consumption.
00:16 You wonder what the truth is
00:18 and how to avoid things like osteoporosis?
00:21 Find out how to optimize your lifestyle
00:23 next on Optimize 4 Life.
00:48 Hello, I'm Dick Nunez, exercise physiologist.
00:51 And I'm Jay Sutcliffe,
00:53 professor and registered dietician.
00:55 Dick, week seven, here we are...
00:58 We're rolling.
00:59 Wow, okay,
01:01 so people are making changes following along,
01:03 maybe just jump it in right now.
01:04 Okay.
01:06 And we need to deal with another system in the body
01:09 that's really kind of
01:11 the structural integrity of the body.
01:13 We're gonna talk about the skeletal system today.
01:16 It is definitely that,
01:17 it is the structure of your body.
01:19 Okay, so let's take a look at this
01:21 because there's a lot of confusion
01:22 maybe misunderstanding or half truths
01:25 that people understand about
01:26 how their bone structure is put together.
01:29 So maybe we should talk a little bit about anatomy
01:31 and physiology of the parts and the function.
01:33 So why don't we start with the parts of the body,
01:35 the skeletal system?
01:37 What can you tell us about that?
01:39 Well, the skeleton is bones coming to bones,
01:42 hooked by ligaments,
01:43 making up the foundation of where your muscles attach to.
01:47 And as we've talked before,
01:49 all the joints are actually very weak
01:51 unless you have muscles crossing those joints.
01:53 They're not gonna function very well.
01:55 And of course, we also know that
01:57 the bones are subject to getting stronger
02:00 or weaker just like the muscles of the body,
02:03 so something has to be done.
02:04 And of course as we talk with any of the body parts,
02:07 what we eat, how much we exercise
02:10 and the thoughts we have
02:11 all affect all the elements of the body,
02:13 skeleton included.
02:14 Okay.
02:16 So let's talk about the,
02:17 the elements of the skeletal system,
02:20 what they're made out of.
02:22 We think about only calcium, like it's 100 percent calcium,
02:24 is that, what else do we have to think about,
02:26 we have to think about the,
02:28 how that you talked about the ligaments,
02:30 the muscles stressing on there and stuff.
02:32 How does that actually work?
02:34 So let's talk about physiology a little bit now,
02:36 and how the bones actually strengthen,
02:38 how they absorb the calcium,
02:40 and how the magnesium helps balance
02:42 that out the vitamin K, different things like that.
02:45 Jay, one thing I'd like to say is,
02:46 even before we go into that is
02:48 even the Bible talks about
02:50 that a merry heart does well like medicine
02:53 but a sad spirit drieth the bones.
02:56 That's right.
02:57 And so they even find that
02:58 drieth the bones sounds like osteoporosis,
03:00 and they find that being depressed
03:02 and so forth will cause leeching of the calcium
03:05 and lead to something like osteoporosis.
03:08 But as far as how the whole thing works together,
03:12 you know the,
03:13 the bones are the foundation for our movement
03:16 as far as whatever we do,
03:18 you know, it's holding us up,
03:20 it's holding us upright,
03:22 and we'd be in a mess if we didn't have our skeleton,
03:24 we'd be just collapsing around on the floor.
03:26 But those ligaments attach
03:28 to the muscles cross the joint with the tendon
03:32 and come down into the next area
03:34 and allows you to have functional movement.
03:36 Now one of the things that
03:38 people have a lot of misconception
03:39 about is their abdominal.
03:41 You know, they think they need to do
03:42 all sorts of leg raises and so forth,
03:45 but the abdominal muscle interesting, Jay,
03:47 does not cross the joint.
03:48 It only has a four inch range of motion,
03:50 your abdomen does this to here.
03:52 It's all it does,
03:54 it's just four inch range of motion,
03:55 doesn't cross the joint.
03:56 But other muscles across the joint are
03:58 what give them their movement.
04:00 You have your rib cage of course
04:01 that's going to give your internal organs
04:04 I had a young man one time come up to me and said,
04:07 ''Coach, coach I can't lift weights anymore.
04:09 My mother said, if I do,
04:11 my muscles are going to crush on my vital organs."
04:14 And I said, "You ever heard of your rib cage,
04:16 that's what that's for."
04:17 Muscles are on the outside of it,
04:18 so you're gonna be fine.
04:20 So but that's the structure and stability of the body.
04:23 And of course what we also know is
04:26 we start losing that structure and stability,
04:28 then our posture starts to collapse down.
04:31 Okay, okay so the muscles strengthen the whole system,
04:35 hold the skeletal system in place,
04:37 they work together.
04:38 Okay, what about inside the bones
04:40 we have a bone marrow...
04:41 That's producing some different blood cells,
04:44 immune system in there as well.
04:46 So it's not just a structural piece either.
04:48 No, it's not
04:50 But it's interesting how you pulled together
04:51 the mental aspect.
04:54 As the example was Proverbs I think it's 17:22,
04:58 where you talked about a cheerful heart
05:01 doeth good like a medicine,
05:02 we forget the second part
05:03 but a broken spirit dries up the bones.
05:05 So the mental aspect of that,
05:08 we have the physical aspect where they actually,
05:10 the structure of it and so forth
05:12 but what about when that
05:13 actually the osteoporosis takes place.
05:16 Okay, I think we have a graphic for that.
05:18 So we kind of take a look at that on the screen.
05:20 And so when we talk about osteoporosis it,
05:23 it's interesting when you look around at the studies
05:25 that we find that in the countries that consume
05:28 the most amount of dairy products
05:30 also have the highest instance of osteoporosis.
05:33 Want you take us through this about the thinning of the bones
05:36 so we have a normal bone on the left...
05:37 Right, right,
05:39 and you can see the density of the of the bone matter.
05:41 And then oppose the other side
05:43 where you see the decalcification taken place
05:45 and we start to getting osteoporotic looking bone
05:48 where it began or osteopenia
05:50 which is the onset osteoporosis,
05:52 and so you want to have a nice strong full bone structure
05:56 like we see on the left hand side
05:59 where you want to avoid the other side.
06:01 And of course that is showing down at the bottom
06:03 that probably say the top one is probably the osteopenia,
06:06 the down below is probably the osteoporosis.
06:08 And it's bad news
06:09 and that means a lot of times they say well,
06:12 "Grandma fell down broke her hip.
06:14 No, grandma broke her hip and then fell down."
06:16 Okay.
06:17 That's, that's right. Yeah.
06:19 Okay, so at most of the time
06:20 we're finding that the bone breaks
06:21 then the person falls rather than
06:23 falling and breaking.
06:24 Right.
06:25 But then we also from last week
06:27 we were talking a little bit about muscularity,
06:28 okay, so stabilizing the joints,
06:30 so the falls also can be a compounded situation
06:35 where we have weak muscles
06:37 and we also have the fall
06:38 and the weak bones together falling down.
06:41 Okay, so the other things we want to look at with,
06:44 with this whole skeletal system is,
06:46 think about the lifespan
06:47 in the development of the bone tissue,
06:50 okay, is we're born they're pretty flexible
06:52 so they get through the birth canal.
06:54 Right.
06:55 Right, I mean so the bones are real, real
06:57 rigid at that time.
06:58 But as we go through until about the age of what 30,
07:01 somewhere in there that
07:02 we're still building that bone mass
07:04 and then basically we've kind of peaked out
07:06 and we need to maintain that for a lifespan...
07:10 With, with these different lifestyle habits.
07:13 So isn't it like
07:14 when we get into our late 20s and stuff.
07:16 Then we have to almost kind of live on
07:19 what we've built up and maintain
07:21 for the rest of our lives.
07:22 Exactly and that's the thing it's so sad, Jay,
07:24 because we know
07:25 a lot of the lifestyle habits of today,
07:27 especially for the youth,
07:29 the young women of today,
07:30 the things they are supposed to be doing now
07:32 are to get their bones to optimum strength
07:36 to carry them through the rest of your life,
07:38 and even where we are living in the Verde Valley of Arizona,
07:42 there's, there are lot of native Americans
07:44 around that area,
07:45 and of course lot of them live on government subsidies
07:47 and so forth,
07:49 and the water sometimes in the Verde Valley
07:51 isn't the best,
07:53 and so they're having actually a lot of problems
07:54 with some of the young girls
07:56 from the native American schools
07:57 who play soccer and so forth fracturing bones.
08:00 A lot of that is happening at a very early age
08:03 and there are many nutritional experts that say,
08:06 osteoporosis is bad now
08:08 but wait until this generation of girls gets to be seniors.
08:13 It's gonna be off the chart
08:14 and we're seeing it all the time,
08:16 people are getting heavier and heavier
08:18 and their bones are getting weaker and weaker,
08:20 and what's that's just a recipe for disaster.
08:22 That's right.
08:23 And so a lot of these, these things
08:25 we're consuming dietaries.
08:26 As a dietician I just cringe at how much,
08:28 how many soft drinks
08:30 phosphoric acid type foods we're eating.
08:33 Right.
08:34 Okay, and then we also see that a lot of coffee
08:36 and things like that leeching the calcium
08:37 out of the bloodstream,
08:39 out of the bones...
08:40 And alcohol
08:41 And alcohol. Right.
08:43 So really, that's why I look at a lot of times
08:44 what we're consuming.
08:45 We think about the food and lot of times
08:47 we forget about the beverage part of our dietary intake.
08:50 How many beverages we're taking
08:52 and how that can in a sense leach the calcium
08:54 out of the bloodstream or out of the bone.
08:56 Any time we start making our body more acidic...
08:58 Okay.
08:59 Then we have to get calcium out of that bone matrix
09:01 to help neutralize that
09:03 and we need a lot of water trying to do it,
09:05 and most people when they drink a can of pop,
09:08 they're not thinking about the fact well,
09:10 now they've to drink 32 glasses of water
09:12 to neutralize the acidic effect of this,
09:14 this glass of pop.
09:15 They're not thinking that way.
09:17 So the body has to go into a defense mechanism,
09:18 it goes okay, what do you need to do is
09:20 we're gonna have to pull calcium from the ball matrix
09:22 in order to stabilize the pH balance
09:24 that you just threw off because of what you're eating,
09:26 and of course same thing and you mention cultures that
09:29 do it a lot of dairy
09:30 or what you see is a high protein content,
09:33 the higher the protein content the more osteoporosis you have.
09:36 And of course and when you have low protein content
09:39 not so much problem.
09:40 And of course
09:42 and how you get that protein is also very important
09:43 because if you have a lot of animal products
09:46 and have the high sulfuric amino acids,
09:48 then you're gonna have more problems of calcium leeching
09:50 as opposed to the plant proteins
09:52 that aren't gonna be high in those sulfuric amino acids.
09:54 And that's what we're seeing is that really the societies
09:57 that are doing more plant based foods are actually having
10:00 more efficient absorption from the calcium.
10:04 But we also don't want to minimize the fact
10:07 that there's magnesium, there's vitamin D.
10:08 Right.
10:10 Okay, Vitamin D is a component of the skeletal system
10:13 of building that as well,
10:14 and some of the other micronutrients vitamin K.
10:17 Okay, so, and you know it's interesting that
10:19 we think we're so smart
10:20 and so we take those supplements, okay.
10:23 Well, lot of times if you've seen those x-rays
10:24 where they've done people where
10:26 some of the supplements aren't even digested and absorbed.
10:28 And they actually find the whole pill
10:30 going through the system they can see it on an x-ray.
10:34 What I always find interesting is that
10:36 lot of times we will say,
10:37 well, I take 800,000 milligrams of calcium in a tablet.
10:41 Well, is it absorbed?
10:43 Is it utilized in the body?
10:45 But just like you talked one time
10:47 on one of our programs,
10:48 Jay, you mentioned that
10:49 as a young man and you wanted to...
10:51 You have the bigorexia thing going
10:52 where you wanted to get very large
10:54 and so you took all sorts of protein powder
10:56 and made sure your wore loose clothing to bed
10:59 because you're sure when you woke up the morning
11:00 you were gonna be all of a sudden be all bulked up.
11:03 So people think that all as they have to do is
11:04 take a bunch of protein and they gonna get big muscles.
11:08 People think automatically you just take a bunch of calcium
11:11 and they're gonna have stronger bone density.
11:13 But the thing is we've got to create a need
11:15 in order for those things to happen.
11:17 You have to work out in order to build those muscles up.
11:19 You have to put stimulation on the bones
11:21 to make them want to draw out
11:22 that calcium into the bone matrix.
11:24 Okay, so but last week
11:26 we were talking about the muscle system,
11:28 the muscularity and we didn't even mention
11:31 I don't think the word sarcopenia...
11:32 Okay.
11:34 Which is age related muscle loss,
11:36 so you have that going on
11:37 and then you have bone loss going on as we age,
11:39 it's a double whammy.
11:41 Right, and we're getting heavier and heavier
11:43 and all that extra weight,
11:44 for every pound of excess body weight,
11:46 it's like another four pounds in your joints.
11:48 You know the weight and I make a joke about this,
11:50 but it's not really that humorous
11:52 but that a lot of times
11:53 as Americans we're like trees, we grow like trees,
11:56 we put a new ring on every year,
11:58 okay so we see over every year.
12:00 And in a sense if they did a cross-section of us
12:02 you could see in the years
12:03 that we ate a lot more food we have a bigger ring.
12:05 We're not talking about rings of muscle either, right?
12:07 No, they're not rings of muscle,
12:08 they might look like a muscle, but they're not muscle.
12:11 Yeah. Okay.
12:13 And of course that's very devastating
12:14 because you're talking about
12:16 the visceral fat underneath this
12:17 the muscle sheath which is very devastating.
12:20 Yeah, we're gonna get into that
12:21 when we talk about the endocrine system
12:23 where it's actually part of the endocrine system.
12:25 Okay, pull it back, pull it back
12:27 Metabolically active, okay.
12:28 So what we need to do now is
12:30 we need to get in our exercise session
12:32 but before we do that, okay, we're gonna go
12:34 and Chloe is gonna show us a stir fry today,
12:36 and how we can actually get
12:38 more plant based micronutrients,
12:41 the calcium, the magnesium in our foods.
12:43 So Chloe is gonna show us some tips
12:45 for people to get into the micronutrient
12:48 density of food with using stir fry.
12:52 All right in this session we're gonna incorporate
12:54 some more nutrient dense foods.
12:57 We're gonna be making a stir fry,
12:59 and we're gonna start with just some basic ingredients
13:02 on stir fry.
13:04 Stir fry is usually a lot of peppers
13:06 and different vegetables.
13:08 Today we're gonna be use things like the onions.
13:11 We're gonna be super easy by using
13:13 some of these frozen vegetables we found.
13:15 We add a little broccoli
13:17 and a little cabbage for a little added extra.
13:21 We can also add
13:22 some of this Five-Spice tofu nuggets we like.
13:26 We're gonna be serving it over a bed of rice today.
13:29 But you can serve it over many other things.
13:33 My husband loves to put over a bed of lettuce
13:35 instead of rice
13:37 or you can use quinoa or some other grain.
13:40 Wild rice makes a great addition to a stir fry.
13:45 So there's different things
13:46 that you can do to add different types
13:50 and styles and flavors to your stir fry
13:53 to make it good for your palate.
13:55 So let's get started.
13:57 For our stir fry,
13:58 we want to make a little sauce to make it flavorful,
14:00 so we're gonna add a few ingredients together
14:03 for our sauce,
14:04 and then we're gonna get started stir frying.
14:07 We're gonna start with a quarter cup of water.
14:11 We're gonna add to that some Bragg's aminos.
14:15 We're gonna add another quarter cup to that.
14:17 So we're gonna have a half a cup in here.
14:24 To that we're going to add a teaspoon
14:29 of cornstarch,
14:31 just for a little thickener,
14:32 we don't have to have it real thick,
14:34 just a little bit of thickening.
14:35 And to that we're gonna add a little ginger.
14:40 And I'm going to guess about a quarter of a teaspoon.
14:43 So we're just gonna mix that all together.
14:51 And then we're going to take
14:53 all of our ingredients over to the stove
14:57 and we're gonna saute our ingredients
15:00 in water today,
15:02 because we want to save on the processed fats.
15:05 Now, that's a really essential for us
15:07 but processed fats are not necessary.
15:11 All right let's get started stir frying our vegetables.
15:15 We'd turn our burner on.
15:20 Get our water heating up.
15:32 We'll start adding our vegetables,
15:34 we put our onions in
15:35 and break them up a little bit.
16:12 We're ready to add our frozen vegetables.
16:25 We'll add our Five-Spice tofu chunks.
16:35 Now we're gonna put the lid on
16:36 and just let this cook for a minute.
16:53 Okay, we're just about done.
16:58 We are going to add our sauce to our vegetables.
17:02 They're nice and boiling.
17:05 Get this a little mix.
17:09 Make sure our cornstarch is all mixed in.
17:15 And then we just want to give it a second
17:17 to kind of reheat
17:20 and our stir fry will be ready to put over rice.
17:24 We're ready to serve our stir fry.
17:27 Now remember, we are using rice today,
17:31 brown rice,
17:34 but you can use quinoa,
17:36 a bed of lettuce or other greens
17:40 or any other grain you want,
17:42 you could even use pasta if you wanted to.
17:45 And so we'll add our vegetables over the top.
17:54 Nice colorful.
17:56 You could use any vegetable,
17:57 you could use summer squash, zucchini,
18:00 any of those vegetables would go
18:02 really well in this as well.
18:04 So now that we've got it all done,
18:06 we're gonna just sprinkle a few sunflower seeds
18:09 over the top, just gives it some texture
18:11 because we love texture in our food, don't we?
18:14 All right, enjoy your stir fry.
18:17 Thank you, Chloe,
18:19 that looked absolutely wonderful
18:20 and the beauty about stir fries
18:22 is you can throw all sorts of different things in there
18:24 for your taste and your variety,
18:26 so that's awesome.
18:28 And I know we like stir fries so,
18:30 but now we're gonna talk about some exercise
18:31 and exercise is so important.
18:33 We're talking about bones,
18:35 because when you stimulate the bones
18:37 it releases positive ions
18:39 which draws in the negative ions
18:41 and brings calcium along in there,
18:43 and so that's where we're looking for as
18:44 how to get absorption,
18:46 and one of the things that's very important is
18:48 by stimulating the muscles along the spinal column
18:52 because that sends a signal throughout the body,
18:55 a systemic signal says, okay, all bones on alert.
18:59 We need to get stronger because we're working,
19:01 and so we want to stimulate
19:02 the muscles of the central nervous system
19:04 or along the spinal column,
19:06 and so one of the best way to do that
19:07 is with the deadlift exercise,
19:09 but we're not gonna be using heavy weights with that,
19:11 we're gonna be using our ten pound ball again.
19:13 But you can be using
19:15 all sorts of different types of equipment,
19:17 you could be using dumbbells, barbell,
19:19 whatever you want to do or even just water jug
19:21 if you have one of those, if you don't have any weights.
19:24 So Lisa is going to demonstrate a proper way to do a deadlift.
19:27 She's going to have, you go what we call soft knees.
19:30 She's not going to lock her knees out strong.
19:32 She's gonna be keeping those just slightly bent.
19:34 And then she's bending over at the waist
19:36 and coming back up.
19:38 Okay, go up a little bit higher there, Lisa,
19:40 when you come back up.
19:41 Stand way up, there we go.
19:43 And so we're contracting the muscles
19:45 on the low back called the erector spinae,
19:47 and they're very beneficial for getting the back strong.
19:51 Now, on this type of exercise,
19:53 I'm not looking for straining and so forth.
19:55 I'm looking for a lot of repetitions.
19:58 Maybe 30 even maybe even 50 repetitions
20:01 although I'm not going to have you do that right now.
20:02 Thank you.
20:04 But, okay, but that exercise is great
20:06 for developing the low back
20:08 and people just doing it for a little bit
20:11 will find great benefit.
20:12 However also it is an exercise
20:15 that people can sometimes feel a bit of irritation.
20:18 So you want to be careful with,
20:19 and I would definitely advice you
20:20 to start with maybe just maybe ten of them.
20:24 Maybe then up to 15, 20
20:26 and then build it up to that 50,
20:28 don't just go, okay, well, that's great,
20:30 I'll start with 50, you might regret it, so.
20:33 'Cause it also stretches your hamstrings...
20:34 It stretches your hamstrings as well which is good.
20:36 Again especially for the men
20:38 who tend not to get much hamstring flexibility,
20:41 that's a good one for them also.
20:43 Thank you, Lisa. That was great.
20:45 And now we'll come back to Dr. Sutliffe,
20:46 and we're gonna talk some more about bones.
20:48 All right, well, before we do that,
20:49 what about some of this equipment
20:51 you've been using here, where can people pick that up.
20:54 What would you recommend?
20:55 What about joining a fitness center,
20:56 those types of things?
20:58 Well, joining a fitness center is always good.
21:00 You have lots of different equipments you can go by,
21:02 and the thing though I tell people about fitness centers
21:05 is make sure you find one
21:06 that's got some really good trainers,
21:08 that somebody is gonna help you along the way.
21:10 You know, at our particular facility,
21:11 it's personal training only,
21:13 so we don't have an open gym
21:15 where a lot of people...
21:17 I have a lot of people come and want to join our gym
21:18 specially some of the muscle heads
21:20 who want to go grunt in the corner said no,
21:21 we can't have that
21:23 because you can take up my cables,
21:24 my dumbbells, my bench press.
21:26 Oh, yeah, that's probably and I said,
21:28 "Well, I can't have that."
21:29 Because people come to us don't want that open gym look,
21:32 they want to have that controlled environment
21:34 where they feel really good about.
21:36 When it comes to buying equipment,
21:37 the nice thing about the things we use,
21:39 they're very simple.
21:40 And of course with Body and Spirit,
21:42 I would use no equipment at all except for a chair
21:45 and a towel and everybody's got those,
21:47 but you can buy those balls
21:49 and light dumbbells at any department type store,
21:52 Walmart that should have it.
21:56 But you know then you go,
21:58 you can get them online as well,
21:59 and most people have access to the internet nowadays
22:02 and just look for exercise balls,
22:04 and you're going to find them at a pretty good price,
22:05 pretty easy.
22:07 Okay, okay, well good.
22:08 So we've been talking through the weeks here,
22:11 we take it a system at a time.
22:13 In a sense it now,
22:15 the muscle system seems to really be
22:16 working with the bones
22:18 to solidify the bone or maintain the bone.
22:21 They need each other.
22:22 Okay, so we talk about these
22:24 different signs of aging of weakness
22:27 and things like that,
22:28 but we really need to talk about that a little bit more
22:30 and then talk about men and women,
22:32 both need to have bone mass, don't they?
22:34 Oh, absolutely men tend to have less problem with it
22:37 because they have greater bone density in general.
22:41 But they as well will start battling osteopenia
22:46 or even osteoporosis,
22:47 and especially as the diet continues to go
22:50 more and more to the fast foods,
22:52 the acidic foods.
22:53 I mean people have no idea.
22:56 Jay, even for people like us
22:58 who are really focusing
23:00 on trying to make our diet more alkaline,
23:03 it still isn't easy.
23:04 Okay.
23:05 Because we have to balance that with the amount of exercise
23:07 we do because exercise is going to create
23:10 a little bit of an oxidative acid type response.
23:15 And so when we do that, that's why it's important.
23:18 You know, when you exercise like want to,
23:20 try and make sure we get a lot of antioxidants...
23:21 That's right.
23:23 And try and get a high alkaline food source
23:27 because we're creating acid when we're working out.
23:29 And one of the greatest ways to do that,
23:30 I know we covered this in one of the previous weeks,
23:33 but we need to remind people to keep eating that
23:35 entree size green salad at least once a day,
23:39 and there's no penalty you know, Dick,
23:40 for eating two of those a day
23:42 if you have one at in the breakfast even,
23:44 you can even...
23:45 You know, some people eat their,
23:46 their dinner for breakfast, okay.
23:48 And then they can get those things in,
23:50 then we also bring in a lot more nutrient dense foods,
23:53 lot of the vegetables,
23:54 lot of the greens, okay.
23:56 Then bring in some fruits and some whole foods
23:58 and really putting that all together,
24:00 I mean that's the most practical way to do it.
24:03 Some things need to be repeated time and time and time again
24:07 especially the benefit, you know,
24:09 every sermon preached should be about Jesus and Him crucified.
24:13 You know, because that foundation has got to be there
24:16 every single time.
24:18 And just like when we talk about it,
24:20 we might repeat some things but you know what?
24:22 If you heard it on one show
24:23 and you're hearing on another show,
24:25 guess what?
24:26 That's because we both think it's highly important
24:28 that you realize the value of eating
24:30 wholesome foods in their natural state
24:33 and the beauty of the Bible, Jay,
24:35 is when you look at all the principles
24:37 that are in there on health,
24:39 and you talk about the original diet in Genesis.
24:41 You talk about Levitical law about clean and unclean.
24:44 I mean it's all 100 percent accurate.
24:46 There is no medical inaccuracies in the Bible.
24:50 And how would they know that way back then,
24:53 or you know in the health messages
24:55 of the Adventist Church.
24:57 There has been so many things that have come down the pike.
25:00 How would they know
25:01 that even Dr. John Harvey Kellog said
25:03 way back when they said,
25:04 how are you years ahead of everybody else.
25:06 He goes, well, I bounce it off
25:08 of the health message of the Adventist Church.
25:11 If it agrees I go with it and if it doesn't, I ignore it.
25:14 Because you look at it even back then in the late 1800s,
25:18 Jay, they were saying
25:20 if you have blood sugar problems,
25:21 you should eat two to three times a day at the most.
25:23 Well, even today
25:25 you're still going to medical doctors oftentimes saying,
25:28 you need to eat five or six meals a day.
25:29 And we know that
25:31 the two to three meals a day is still best.
25:33 God knows it's there.
25:35 If we get back to the original Genesis diet,
25:37 we're gonna have health
25:38 and we're gonna have it more abundantly.
25:40 Okay.
25:41 We don't have a lot of time left,
25:43 but I can't avoid addressing the issue of joint replacement.
25:48 Okay. It's going through my mind.
25:50 We're talking about breaking the bone and falling, okay.
25:53 I'm thinking right now about joint replacement.
25:56 Now some of the things we know is that
25:58 when you put extra body weight on,
26:00 you're putting extra strain and stress on the joints.
26:04 Right.
26:05 What's the ratio every, every extra pound of body fat.
26:08 From what I understands for, another extra four pounds.
26:10 So if you have ten pounds of extra fat,
26:12 that's actually an extra 40 pounds on the joint.
26:14 Well, have we seen people that
26:16 actually could maybe lose a ring
26:18 rather than gaining a ring every year?
26:19 We have.
26:21 Maybe retract a ring, lose a ring
26:23 and then maybe strengthen the muscles
26:25 and then strengthen the bones
26:27 and maybe avoid going into joint replacement.
26:30 We have one woman come out to the center
26:33 Black Health and Education Center
26:35 and she was in line for hip replacement surgery.
26:37 She was 80 years old,
26:39 she came out for like two weeks, Jay, two weeks
26:42 and when she went back home, the doctor said,
26:44 "What in the world you've been doing?"
26:46 She goes, "I went to a wellness lifestyle program,
26:48 I got into an exercise program."
26:49 And the doctor told her
26:51 you no longer need the hip replacement,
26:54 and if you keep doing what you're doing,
26:56 you won't ever need it.
26:57 So it's maximizing your nutrients...
27:00 Right.
27:01 State of mind...
27:03 Right.
27:04 Muscle strengthening
27:05 which will also strengthen the bones,
27:07 so it's all working together synergistically.
27:10 It's not just doing one thing,
27:11 taking your calcium supplements
27:13 and sitting on a couch, okay.
27:15 So getting rid of the phosphoric acid,
27:17 a lot of those processed foods...
27:18 Right.
27:20 And also getting the micronutrients,
27:21 whether it's a stir fry,
27:23 whether it's a green salad, or combination of there,
27:25 maybe a smoothie in there, throwing the food in there,
27:28 and then doing some resistance training.
27:30 And get the mind right. Okay.
27:32 Focus on things that are pure and lovely and so on.
27:35 Don't think about the bad stuff
27:37 and don't let the TV dictate how your thoughts are.
27:40 Well we're about out of time.
27:42 Again, we had just a wonderful time
27:44 talking to you about how the skeleton works,
27:47 and I hope it's been helpful.
27:48 And we thank you again for watching.
27:50 God bless you and we'll look forward to seeing you next time
27:53 on Optimize 4 Life.


Revised 2016-12-08