Participants: Dick Nunez & Jay Sutcliffe (Host), Lisa Nunez
Series Code: OFL
Program Code: OFL000007A
00:01 According to the American Journal
00:02 of Clinical Nutrition, 00:04 calcium related disease is caused by a lack of calcium 00:06 consumption is not known to occur in humans at all. 00:09 Now, it's not saying 00:11 they're not calcium related diseases. 00:12 It's just that it's not caused by lack of calcium consumption. 00:16 You wonder what the truth is 00:18 and how to avoid things like osteoporosis? 00:21 Find out how to optimize your lifestyle 00:23 next on Optimize 4 Life. 00:48 Hello, I'm Dick Nunez, exercise physiologist. 00:51 And I'm Jay Sutcliffe, 00:53 professor and registered dietician. 00:55 Dick, week seven, here we are... 00:58 We're rolling. 00:59 Wow, okay, 01:01 so people are making changes following along, 01:03 maybe just jump it in right now. 01:04 Okay. 01:06 And we need to deal with another system in the body 01:09 that's really kind of 01:11 the structural integrity of the body. 01:13 We're gonna talk about the skeletal system today. 01:16 It is definitely that, 01:17 it is the structure of your body. 01:19 Okay, so let's take a look at this 01:21 because there's a lot of confusion 01:22 maybe misunderstanding or half truths 01:25 that people understand about 01:26 how their bone structure is put together. 01:29 So maybe we should talk a little bit about anatomy 01:31 and physiology of the parts and the function. 01:33 So why don't we start with the parts of the body, 01:35 the skeletal system? 01:37 What can you tell us about that? 01:39 Well, the skeleton is bones coming to bones, 01:42 hooked by ligaments, 01:43 making up the foundation of where your muscles attach to. 01:47 And as we've talked before, 01:49 all the joints are actually very weak 01:51 unless you have muscles crossing those joints. 01:53 They're not gonna function very well. 01:55 And of course, we also know that 01:57 the bones are subject to getting stronger 02:00 or weaker just like the muscles of the body, 02:03 so something has to be done. 02:04 And of course as we talk with any of the body parts, 02:07 what we eat, how much we exercise 02:10 and the thoughts we have 02:11 all affect all the elements of the body, 02:13 skeleton included. 02:14 Okay. 02:16 So let's talk about the, 02:17 the elements of the skeletal system, 02:20 what they're made out of. 02:22 We think about only calcium, like it's 100 percent calcium, 02:24 is that, what else do we have to think about, 02:26 we have to think about the, 02:28 how that you talked about the ligaments, 02:30 the muscles stressing on there and stuff. 02:32 How does that actually work? 02:34 So let's talk about physiology a little bit now, 02:36 and how the bones actually strengthen, 02:38 how they absorb the calcium, 02:40 and how the magnesium helps balance 02:42 that out the vitamin K, different things like that. 02:45 Jay, one thing I'd like to say is, 02:46 even before we go into that is 02:48 even the Bible talks about 02:50 that a merry heart does well like medicine 02:53 but a sad spirit drieth the bones. 02:56 That's right. 02:57 And so they even find that 02:58 drieth the bones sounds like osteoporosis, 03:00 and they find that being depressed 03:02 and so forth will cause leeching of the calcium 03:05 and lead to something like osteoporosis. 03:08 But as far as how the whole thing works together, 03:12 you know the, 03:13 the bones are the foundation for our movement 03:16 as far as whatever we do, 03:18 you know, it's holding us up, 03:20 it's holding us upright, 03:22 and we'd be in a mess if we didn't have our skeleton, 03:24 we'd be just collapsing around on the floor. 03:26 But those ligaments attach 03:28 to the muscles cross the joint with the tendon 03:32 and come down into the next area 03:34 and allows you to have functional movement. 03:36 Now one of the things that 03:38 people have a lot of misconception 03:39 about is their abdominal. 03:41 You know, they think they need to do 03:42 all sorts of leg raises and so forth, 03:45 but the abdominal muscle interesting, Jay, 03:47 does not cross the joint. 03:48 It only has a four inch range of motion, 03:50 your abdomen does this to here. 03:52 It's all it does, 03:54 it's just four inch range of motion, 03:55 doesn't cross the joint. 03:56 But other muscles across the joint are 03:58 what give them their movement. 04:00 You have your rib cage of course 04:01 that's going to give your internal organs 04:04 I had a young man one time come up to me and said, 04:07 ''Coach, coach I can't lift weights anymore. 04:09 My mother said, if I do, 04:11 my muscles are going to crush on my vital organs." 04:14 And I said, "You ever heard of your rib cage, 04:16 that's what that's for." 04:17 Muscles are on the outside of it, 04:18 so you're gonna be fine. 04:20 So but that's the structure and stability of the body. 04:23 And of course what we also know is 04:26 we start losing that structure and stability, 04:28 then our posture starts to collapse down. 04:31 Okay, okay so the muscles strengthen the whole system, 04:35 hold the skeletal system in place, 04:37 they work together. 04:38 Okay, what about inside the bones 04:40 we have a bone marrow... 04:41 That's producing some different blood cells, 04:44 immune system in there as well. 04:46 So it's not just a structural piece either. 04:48 No, it's not 04:50 But it's interesting how you pulled together 04:51 the mental aspect. 04:54 As the example was Proverbs I think it's 17:22, 04:58 where you talked about a cheerful heart 05:01 doeth good like a medicine, 05:02 we forget the second part 05:03 but a broken spirit dries up the bones. 05:05 So the mental aspect of that, 05:08 we have the physical aspect where they actually, 05:10 the structure of it and so forth 05:12 but what about when that 05:13 actually the osteoporosis takes place. 05:16 Okay, I think we have a graphic for that. 05:18 So we kind of take a look at that on the screen. 05:20 And so when we talk about osteoporosis it, 05:23 it's interesting when you look around at the studies 05:25 that we find that in the countries that consume 05:28 the most amount of dairy products 05:30 also have the highest instance of osteoporosis. 05:33 Want you take us through this about the thinning of the bones 05:36 so we have a normal bone on the left... 05:37 Right, right, 05:39 and you can see the density of the of the bone matter. 05:41 And then oppose the other side 05:43 where you see the decalcification taken place 05:45 and we start to getting osteoporotic looking bone 05:48 where it began or osteopenia 05:50 which is the onset osteoporosis, 05:52 and so you want to have a nice strong full bone structure 05:56 like we see on the left hand side 05:59 where you want to avoid the other side. 06:01 And of course that is showing down at the bottom 06:03 that probably say the top one is probably the osteopenia, 06:06 the down below is probably the osteoporosis. 06:08 And it's bad news 06:09 and that means a lot of times they say well, 06:12 "Grandma fell down broke her hip. 06:14 No, grandma broke her hip and then fell down." 06:16 Okay. 06:17 That's, that's right. Yeah. 06:19 Okay, so at most of the time 06:20 we're finding that the bone breaks 06:21 then the person falls rather than 06:23 falling and breaking. 06:24 Right. 06:25 But then we also from last week 06:27 we were talking a little bit about muscularity, 06:28 okay, so stabilizing the joints, 06:30 so the falls also can be a compounded situation 06:35 where we have weak muscles 06:37 and we also have the fall 06:38 and the weak bones together falling down. 06:41 Okay, so the other things we want to look at with, 06:44 with this whole skeletal system is, 06:46 think about the lifespan 06:47 in the development of the bone tissue, 06:50 okay, is we're born they're pretty flexible 06:52 so they get through the birth canal. 06:54 Right. 06:55 Right, I mean so the bones are real, real 06:57 rigid at that time. 06:58 But as we go through until about the age of what 30, 07:01 somewhere in there that 07:02 we're still building that bone mass 07:04 and then basically we've kind of peaked out 07:06 and we need to maintain that for a lifespan... 07:10 With, with these different lifestyle habits. 07:13 So isn't it like 07:14 when we get into our late 20s and stuff. 07:16 Then we have to almost kind of live on 07:19 what we've built up and maintain 07:21 for the rest of our lives. 07:22 Exactly and that's the thing it's so sad, Jay, 07:24 because we know 07:25 a lot of the lifestyle habits of today, 07:27 especially for the youth, 07:29 the young women of today, 07:30 the things they are supposed to be doing now 07:32 are to get their bones to optimum strength 07:36 to carry them through the rest of your life, 07:38 and even where we are living in the Verde Valley of Arizona, 07:42 there's, there are lot of native Americans 07:44 around that area, 07:45 and of course lot of them live on government subsidies 07:47 and so forth, 07:49 and the water sometimes in the Verde Valley 07:51 isn't the best, 07:53 and so they're having actually a lot of problems 07:54 with some of the young girls 07:56 from the native American schools 07:57 who play soccer and so forth fracturing bones. 08:00 A lot of that is happening at a very early age 08:03 and there are many nutritional experts that say, 08:06 osteoporosis is bad now 08:08 but wait until this generation of girls gets to be seniors. 08:13 It's gonna be off the chart 08:14 and we're seeing it all the time, 08:16 people are getting heavier and heavier 08:18 and their bones are getting weaker and weaker, 08:20 and what's that's just a recipe for disaster. 08:22 That's right. 08:23 And so a lot of these, these things 08:25 we're consuming dietaries. 08:26 As a dietician I just cringe at how much, 08:28 how many soft drinks 08:30 phosphoric acid type foods we're eating. 08:33 Right. 08:34 Okay, and then we also see that a lot of coffee 08:36 and things like that leeching the calcium 08:37 out of the bloodstream, 08:39 out of the bones... 08:40 And alcohol 08:41 And alcohol. Right. 08:43 So really, that's why I look at a lot of times 08:44 what we're consuming. 08:45 We think about the food and lot of times 08:47 we forget about the beverage part of our dietary intake. 08:50 How many beverages we're taking 08:52 and how that can in a sense leach the calcium 08:54 out of the bloodstream or out of the bone. 08:56 Any time we start making our body more acidic... 08:58 Okay. 08:59 Then we have to get calcium out of that bone matrix 09:01 to help neutralize that 09:03 and we need a lot of water trying to do it, 09:05 and most people when they drink a can of pop, 09:08 they're not thinking about the fact well, 09:10 now they've to drink 32 glasses of water 09:12 to neutralize the acidic effect of this, 09:14 this glass of pop. 09:15 They're not thinking that way. 09:17 So the body has to go into a defense mechanism, 09:18 it goes okay, what do you need to do is 09:20 we're gonna have to pull calcium from the ball matrix 09:22 in order to stabilize the pH balance 09:24 that you just threw off because of what you're eating, 09:26 and of course same thing and you mention cultures that 09:29 do it a lot of dairy 09:30 or what you see is a high protein content, 09:33 the higher the protein content the more osteoporosis you have. 09:36 And of course and when you have low protein content 09:39 not so much problem. 09:40 And of course 09:42 and how you get that protein is also very important 09:43 because if you have a lot of animal products 09:46 and have the high sulfuric amino acids, 09:48 then you're gonna have more problems of calcium leeching 09:50 as opposed to the plant proteins 09:52 that aren't gonna be high in those sulfuric amino acids. 09:54 And that's what we're seeing is that really the societies 09:57 that are doing more plant based foods are actually having 10:00 more efficient absorption from the calcium. 10:04 But we also don't want to minimize the fact 10:07 that there's magnesium, there's vitamin D. 10:08 Right. 10:10 Okay, Vitamin D is a component of the skeletal system 10:13 of building that as well, 10:14 and some of the other micronutrients vitamin K. 10:17 Okay, so, and you know it's interesting that 10:19 we think we're so smart 10:20 and so we take those supplements, okay. 10:23 Well, lot of times if you've seen those x-rays 10:24 where they've done people where 10:26 some of the supplements aren't even digested and absorbed. 10:28 And they actually find the whole pill 10:30 going through the system they can see it on an x-ray. 10:34 What I always find interesting is that 10:36 lot of times we will say, 10:37 well, I take 800,000 milligrams of calcium in a tablet. 10:41 Well, is it absorbed? 10:43 Is it utilized in the body? 10:45 But just like you talked one time 10:47 on one of our programs, 10:48 Jay, you mentioned that 10:49 as a young man and you wanted to... 10:51 You have the bigorexia thing going 10:52 where you wanted to get very large 10:54 and so you took all sorts of protein powder 10:56 and made sure your wore loose clothing to bed 10:59 because you're sure when you woke up the morning 11:00 you were gonna be all of a sudden be all bulked up. 11:03 So people think that all as they have to do is 11:04 take a bunch of protein and they gonna get big muscles. 11:08 People think automatically you just take a bunch of calcium 11:11 and they're gonna have stronger bone density. 11:13 But the thing is we've got to create a need 11:15 in order for those things to happen. 11:17 You have to work out in order to build those muscles up. 11:19 You have to put stimulation on the bones 11:21 to make them want to draw out 11:22 that calcium into the bone matrix. 11:24 Okay, so but last week 11:26 we were talking about the muscle system, 11:28 the muscularity and we didn't even mention 11:31 I don't think the word sarcopenia... 11:32 Okay. 11:34 Which is age related muscle loss, 11:36 so you have that going on 11:37 and then you have bone loss going on as we age, 11:39 it's a double whammy. 11:41 Right, and we're getting heavier and heavier 11:43 and all that extra weight, 11:44 for every pound of excess body weight, 11:46 it's like another four pounds in your joints. 11:48 You know the weight and I make a joke about this, 11:50 but it's not really that humorous 11:52 but that a lot of times 11:53 as Americans we're like trees, we grow like trees, 11:56 we put a new ring on every year, 11:58 okay so we see over every year. 12:00 And in a sense if they did a cross-section of us 12:02 you could see in the years 12:03 that we ate a lot more food we have a bigger ring. 12:05 We're not talking about rings of muscle either, right? 12:07 No, they're not rings of muscle, 12:08 they might look like a muscle, but they're not muscle. 12:11 Yeah. Okay. 12:13 And of course that's very devastating 12:14 because you're talking about 12:16 the visceral fat underneath this 12:17 the muscle sheath which is very devastating. 12:20 Yeah, we're gonna get into that 12:21 when we talk about the endocrine system 12:23 where it's actually part of the endocrine system. 12:25 Okay, pull it back, pull it back 12:27 Metabolically active, okay. 12:28 So what we need to do now is 12:30 we need to get in our exercise session 12:32 but before we do that, okay, we're gonna go 12:34 and Chloe is gonna show us a stir fry today, 12:36 and how we can actually get 12:38 more plant based micronutrients, 12:41 the calcium, the magnesium in our foods. 12:43 So Chloe is gonna show us some tips 12:45 for people to get into the micronutrient 12:48 density of food with using stir fry. 12:52 All right in this session we're gonna incorporate 12:54 some more nutrient dense foods. 12:57 We're gonna be making a stir fry, 12:59 and we're gonna start with just some basic ingredients 13:02 on stir fry. 13:04 Stir fry is usually a lot of peppers 13:06 and different vegetables. 13:08 Today we're gonna be use things like the onions. 13:11 We're gonna be super easy by using 13:13 some of these frozen vegetables we found. 13:15 We add a little broccoli 13:17 and a little cabbage for a little added extra. 13:21 We can also add 13:22 some of this Five-Spice tofu nuggets we like. 13:26 We're gonna be serving it over a bed of rice today. 13:29 But you can serve it over many other things. 13:33 My husband loves to put over a bed of lettuce 13:35 instead of rice 13:37 or you can use quinoa or some other grain. 13:40 Wild rice makes a great addition to a stir fry. 13:45 So there's different things 13:46 that you can do to add different types 13:50 and styles and flavors to your stir fry 13:53 to make it good for your palate. 13:55 So let's get started. 13:57 For our stir fry, 13:58 we want to make a little sauce to make it flavorful, 14:00 so we're gonna add a few ingredients together 14:03 for our sauce, 14:04 and then we're gonna get started stir frying. 14:07 We're gonna start with a quarter cup of water. 14:11 We're gonna add to that some Bragg's aminos. 14:15 We're gonna add another quarter cup to that. 14:17 So we're gonna have a half a cup in here. 14:24 To that we're going to add a teaspoon 14:29 of cornstarch, 14:31 just for a little thickener, 14:32 we don't have to have it real thick, 14:34 just a little bit of thickening. 14:35 And to that we're gonna add a little ginger. 14:40 And I'm going to guess about a quarter of a teaspoon. 14:43 So we're just gonna mix that all together. 14:51 And then we're going to take 14:53 all of our ingredients over to the stove 14:57 and we're gonna saute our ingredients 15:00 in water today, 15:02 because we want to save on the processed fats. 15:05 Now, that's a really essential for us 15:07 but processed fats are not necessary. 15:11 All right let's get started stir frying our vegetables. 15:15 We'd turn our burner on. 15:20 Get our water heating up. 15:32 We'll start adding our vegetables, 15:34 we put our onions in 15:35 and break them up a little bit. 16:12 We're ready to add our frozen vegetables. 16:25 We'll add our Five-Spice tofu chunks. 16:35 Now we're gonna put the lid on 16:36 and just let this cook for a minute. 16:53 Okay, we're just about done. 16:58 We are going to add our sauce to our vegetables. 17:02 They're nice and boiling. 17:05 Get this a little mix. 17:09 Make sure our cornstarch is all mixed in. 17:15 And then we just want to give it a second 17:17 to kind of reheat 17:20 and our stir fry will be ready to put over rice. 17:24 We're ready to serve our stir fry. 17:27 Now remember, we are using rice today, 17:31 brown rice, 17:34 but you can use quinoa, 17:36 a bed of lettuce or other greens 17:40 or any other grain you want, 17:42 you could even use pasta if you wanted to. 17:45 And so we'll add our vegetables over the top. 17:54 Nice colorful. 17:56 You could use any vegetable, 17:57 you could use summer squash, zucchini, 18:00 any of those vegetables would go 18:02 really well in this as well. 18:04 So now that we've got it all done, 18:06 we're gonna just sprinkle a few sunflower seeds 18:09 over the top, just gives it some texture 18:11 because we love texture in our food, don't we? 18:14 All right, enjoy your stir fry. 18:17 Thank you, Chloe, 18:19 that looked absolutely wonderful 18:20 and the beauty about stir fries 18:22 is you can throw all sorts of different things in there 18:24 for your taste and your variety, 18:26 so that's awesome. 18:28 And I know we like stir fries so, 18:30 but now we're gonna talk about some exercise 18:31 and exercise is so important. 18:33 We're talking about bones, 18:35 because when you stimulate the bones 18:37 it releases positive ions 18:39 which draws in the negative ions 18:41 and brings calcium along in there, 18:43 and so that's where we're looking for as 18:44 how to get absorption, 18:46 and one of the things that's very important is 18:48 by stimulating the muscles along the spinal column 18:52 because that sends a signal throughout the body, 18:55 a systemic signal says, okay, all bones on alert. 18:59 We need to get stronger because we're working, 19:01 and so we want to stimulate 19:02 the muscles of the central nervous system 19:04 or along the spinal column, 19:06 and so one of the best way to do that 19:07 is with the deadlift exercise, 19:09 but we're not gonna be using heavy weights with that, 19:11 we're gonna be using our ten pound ball again. 19:13 But you can be using 19:15 all sorts of different types of equipment, 19:17 you could be using dumbbells, barbell, 19:19 whatever you want to do or even just water jug 19:21 if you have one of those, if you don't have any weights. 19:24 So Lisa is going to demonstrate a proper way to do a deadlift. 19:27 She's going to have, you go what we call soft knees. 19:30 She's not going to lock her knees out strong. 19:32 She's gonna be keeping those just slightly bent. 19:34 And then she's bending over at the waist 19:36 and coming back up. 19:38 Okay, go up a little bit higher there, Lisa, 19:40 when you come back up. 19:41 Stand way up, there we go. 19:43 And so we're contracting the muscles 19:45 on the low back called the erector spinae, 19:47 and they're very beneficial for getting the back strong. 19:51 Now, on this type of exercise, 19:53 I'm not looking for straining and so forth. 19:55 I'm looking for a lot of repetitions. 19:58 Maybe 30 even maybe even 50 repetitions 20:01 although I'm not going to have you do that right now. 20:02 Thank you. 20:04 But, okay, but that exercise is great 20:06 for developing the low back 20:08 and people just doing it for a little bit 20:11 will find great benefit. 20:12 However also it is an exercise 20:15 that people can sometimes feel a bit of irritation. 20:18 So you want to be careful with, 20:19 and I would definitely advice you 20:20 to start with maybe just maybe ten of them. 20:24 Maybe then up to 15, 20 20:26 and then build it up to that 50, 20:28 don't just go, okay, well, that's great, 20:30 I'll start with 50, you might regret it, so. 20:33 'Cause it also stretches your hamstrings... 20:34 It stretches your hamstrings as well which is good. 20:36 Again especially for the men 20:38 who tend not to get much hamstring flexibility, 20:41 that's a good one for them also. 20:43 Thank you, Lisa. That was great. 20:45 And now we'll come back to Dr. Sutliffe, 20:46 and we're gonna talk some more about bones. 20:48 All right, well, before we do that, 20:49 what about some of this equipment 20:51 you've been using here, where can people pick that up. 20:54 What would you recommend? 20:55 What about joining a fitness center, 20:56 those types of things? 20:58 Well, joining a fitness center is always good. 21:00 You have lots of different equipments you can go by, 21:02 and the thing though I tell people about fitness centers 21:05 is make sure you find one 21:06 that's got some really good trainers, 21:08 that somebody is gonna help you along the way. 21:10 You know, at our particular facility, 21:11 it's personal training only, 21:13 so we don't have an open gym 21:15 where a lot of people... 21:17 I have a lot of people come and want to join our gym 21:18 specially some of the muscle heads 21:20 who want to go grunt in the corner said no, 21:21 we can't have that 21:23 because you can take up my cables, 21:24 my dumbbells, my bench press. 21:26 Oh, yeah, that's probably and I said, 21:28 "Well, I can't have that." 21:29 Because people come to us don't want that open gym look, 21:32 they want to have that controlled environment 21:34 where they feel really good about. 21:36 When it comes to buying equipment, 21:37 the nice thing about the things we use, 21:39 they're very simple. 21:40 And of course with Body and Spirit, 21:42 I would use no equipment at all except for a chair 21:45 and a towel and everybody's got those, 21:47 but you can buy those balls 21:49 and light dumbbells at any department type store, 21:52 Walmart that should have it. 21:56 But you know then you go, 21:58 you can get them online as well, 21:59 and most people have access to the internet nowadays 22:02 and just look for exercise balls, 22:04 and you're going to find them at a pretty good price, 22:05 pretty easy. 22:07 Okay, okay, well good. 22:08 So we've been talking through the weeks here, 22:11 we take it a system at a time. 22:13 In a sense it now, 22:15 the muscle system seems to really be 22:16 working with the bones 22:18 to solidify the bone or maintain the bone. 22:21 They need each other. 22:22 Okay, so we talk about these 22:24 different signs of aging of weakness 22:27 and things like that, 22:28 but we really need to talk about that a little bit more 22:30 and then talk about men and women, 22:32 both need to have bone mass, don't they? 22:34 Oh, absolutely men tend to have less problem with it 22:37 because they have greater bone density in general. 22:41 But they as well will start battling osteopenia 22:46 or even osteoporosis, 22:47 and especially as the diet continues to go 22:50 more and more to the fast foods, 22:52 the acidic foods. 22:53 I mean people have no idea. 22:56 Jay, even for people like us 22:58 who are really focusing 23:00 on trying to make our diet more alkaline, 23:03 it still isn't easy. 23:04 Okay. 23:05 Because we have to balance that with the amount of exercise 23:07 we do because exercise is going to create 23:10 a little bit of an oxidative acid type response. 23:15 And so when we do that, that's why it's important. 23:18 You know, when you exercise like want to, 23:20 try and make sure we get a lot of antioxidants... 23:21 That's right. 23:23 And try and get a high alkaline food source 23:27 because we're creating acid when we're working out. 23:29 And one of the greatest ways to do that, 23:30 I know we covered this in one of the previous weeks, 23:33 but we need to remind people to keep eating that 23:35 entree size green salad at least once a day, 23:39 and there's no penalty you know, Dick, 23:40 for eating two of those a day 23:42 if you have one at in the breakfast even, 23:44 you can even... 23:45 You know, some people eat their, 23:46 their dinner for breakfast, okay. 23:48 And then they can get those things in, 23:50 then we also bring in a lot more nutrient dense foods, 23:53 lot of the vegetables, 23:54 lot of the greens, okay. 23:56 Then bring in some fruits and some whole foods 23:58 and really putting that all together, 24:00 I mean that's the most practical way to do it. 24:03 Some things need to be repeated time and time and time again 24:07 especially the benefit, you know, 24:09 every sermon preached should be about Jesus and Him crucified. 24:13 You know, because that foundation has got to be there 24:16 every single time. 24:18 And just like when we talk about it, 24:20 we might repeat some things but you know what? 24:22 If you heard it on one show 24:23 and you're hearing on another show, 24:25 guess what? 24:26 That's because we both think it's highly important 24:28 that you realize the value of eating 24:30 wholesome foods in their natural state 24:33 and the beauty of the Bible, Jay, 24:35 is when you look at all the principles 24:37 that are in there on health, 24:39 and you talk about the original diet in Genesis. 24:41 You talk about Levitical law about clean and unclean. 24:44 I mean it's all 100 percent accurate. 24:46 There is no medical inaccuracies in the Bible. 24:50 And how would they know that way back then, 24:53 or you know in the health messages 24:55 of the Adventist Church. 24:57 There has been so many things that have come down the pike. 25:00 How would they know 25:01 that even Dr. John Harvey Kellog said 25:03 way back when they said, 25:04 how are you years ahead of everybody else. 25:06 He goes, well, I bounce it off 25:08 of the health message of the Adventist Church. 25:11 If it agrees I go with it and if it doesn't, I ignore it. 25:14 Because you look at it even back then in the late 1800s, 25:18 Jay, they were saying 25:20 if you have blood sugar problems, 25:21 you should eat two to three times a day at the most. 25:23 Well, even today 25:25 you're still going to medical doctors oftentimes saying, 25:28 you need to eat five or six meals a day. 25:29 And we know that 25:31 the two to three meals a day is still best. 25:33 God knows it's there. 25:35 If we get back to the original Genesis diet, 25:37 we're gonna have health 25:38 and we're gonna have it more abundantly. 25:40 Okay. 25:41 We don't have a lot of time left, 25:43 but I can't avoid addressing the issue of joint replacement. 25:48 Okay. It's going through my mind. 25:50 We're talking about breaking the bone and falling, okay. 25:53 I'm thinking right now about joint replacement. 25:56 Now some of the things we know is that 25:58 when you put extra body weight on, 26:00 you're putting extra strain and stress on the joints. 26:04 Right. 26:05 What's the ratio every, every extra pound of body fat. 26:08 From what I understands for, another extra four pounds. 26:10 So if you have ten pounds of extra fat, 26:12 that's actually an extra 40 pounds on the joint. 26:14 Well, have we seen people that 26:16 actually could maybe lose a ring 26:18 rather than gaining a ring every year? 26:19 We have. 26:21 Maybe retract a ring, lose a ring 26:23 and then maybe strengthen the muscles 26:25 and then strengthen the bones 26:27 and maybe avoid going into joint replacement. 26:30 We have one woman come out to the center 26:33 Black Health and Education Center 26:35 and she was in line for hip replacement surgery. 26:37 She was 80 years old, 26:39 she came out for like two weeks, Jay, two weeks 26:42 and when she went back home, the doctor said, 26:44 "What in the world you've been doing?" 26:46 She goes, "I went to a wellness lifestyle program, 26:48 I got into an exercise program." 26:49 And the doctor told her 26:51 you no longer need the hip replacement, 26:54 and if you keep doing what you're doing, 26:56 you won't ever need it. 26:57 So it's maximizing your nutrients... 27:00 Right. 27:01 State of mind... 27:03 Right. 27:04 Muscle strengthening 27:05 which will also strengthen the bones, 27:07 so it's all working together synergistically. 27:10 It's not just doing one thing, 27:11 taking your calcium supplements 27:13 and sitting on a couch, okay. 27:15 So getting rid of the phosphoric acid, 27:17 a lot of those processed foods... 27:18 Right. 27:20 And also getting the micronutrients, 27:21 whether it's a stir fry, 27:23 whether it's a green salad, or combination of there, 27:25 maybe a smoothie in there, throwing the food in there, 27:28 and then doing some resistance training. 27:30 And get the mind right. Okay. 27:32 Focus on things that are pure and lovely and so on. 27:35 Don't think about the bad stuff 27:37 and don't let the TV dictate how your thoughts are. 27:40 Well we're about out of time. 27:42 Again, we had just a wonderful time 27:44 talking to you about how the skeleton works, 27:47 and I hope it's been helpful. 27:48 And we thank you again for watching. 27:50 God bless you and we'll look forward to seeing you next time 27:53 on Optimize 4 Life. |
Revised 2016-12-08