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U.S. Dream Academy

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Program Code: TDY018077A


00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Removing pain
00:23 Lord, let my words
00:29 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I want to spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:45 I want to spend my life
00:51 Mending broken people
01:09 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN
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01:21 to take this great gospel of the kingdom
01:23 into all the world. I may be getting
01:26 old, but I'll tell you what- I've never
01:28 been more excited about the gospel,
01:29 about 3ABN, about the work, the mission
01:33 of the church, of 3ABN, than I am right now.
01:38 - Amen. - So, I praise God for the
01:40 opportunity to be living in the closing
01:42 moments of Earth's history. Today, if
01:45 you're a Christian, we want you to
01:47 take this seriously. We want you to go
01:49 to God and say, "Lord, what would
01:51 you have me to do?" If you're not, today
01:53 is a day of salvation, because I promise
01:55 you, you won't find peace and joy and
01:57 happiness until you accept Jesus Christ
02:00 into your life as Lord and Savior of
02:02 your life. That peace is an amazing thing,
02:06 and you can get it. So today, you can
02:08 call us. We have people who'd love
02:10 to pray with you if you need somebody
02:12 to pray with you. I'm here with my
02:13 wife Yvonne. Yvonne, we're going to have
02:15 a great program today in the Lord. - We are!
02:18 I'm so excited. I love our guest. He's
02:21 family to us, and this is such a blessing.
02:26 - Pastor Wintley Phipps, it's good to have
02:28 you here today. - Always a joy to be
02:30 with you, and we love you both and
02:31 we've been praying for you. I'm so glad
02:33 to be on the program today. - Thank you so
02:35 much. Founder and CEO of US Dream Academy.
02:41 A lot of people- they know you as
02:45 a singer, and some don't know about the
02:47 Dream Academy. We could speak about it
02:50 for just a little bit, 'cause it's a
02:51 great cause- a work that you're doing.
02:54 But today, we're here- we're actually debuting,
02:57 if I can use that word, a brand-new-
02:59 I want to say album, but that's way past.
03:03 Albums dates its way back. I used to
03:07 say 'record.' "Play the record," you know?
03:09 Now, I see that- I just saw recently,
03:12 they're bringing records back. Now,
03:14 young people want records so they can
03:16 have records again, 'cause they think, "Wow,
03:18 these antiques is pretty neat." [laughter]
03:22 Today, you have a brand-new project.
03:24 We're looking forward to it. You're entitling
03:27 it, "Glorious Church." Before we get into
03:31 this too much, we're going to show some of
03:32 the songs he's going to be singing for us
03:34 here a bit. Tell us a little bit about the
03:36 Dream Academy. We want to talk a little
03:39 bit about Wintley, your past, and your
03:42 mission for the future. - Sure. Well, the
03:44 Dream Academy is a ministry that brings
03:46 tutoring and mentoring after school in the name
03:50 of Christ to children whose parents are
03:53 incarcerated, and children falling
03:55 behind in school. We've been doing it
03:58 for 20 years now (which is a miracle
04:01 all by itself). We're just praising God.
04:04 We focus on giving the kids a snack
04:07 after school, homework help; we give them
04:12 an opportunity to catch a vision of what
04:14 they're dreaming of inside. If a kid
04:17 wants to be a teacher, we want them to see
04:19 what that's like-or if she wants to be
04:22 a doctor, we want her to see what that's
04:23 like. Then, we focus on building character,
04:27 because at the end of the day, character
04:32 is the most important thing that we have.
04:36 It's more important than the money we make,
04:39 it's more important than the accomplishments
04:41 we have. - That is so true. There's a
04:44 book that I read about how children succeed.
04:48 The name of the book is How Children Succeed,
04:51 and he was saying- the author was saying-
04:53 that it's not just about reading, writing,
04:57 and arithmetic. It's about character-building.
04:59 - Absolutely. - It's about discipline. It's
05:01 about stick-to-itiveness. It's about integrity.
05:04 It sounds like that's what a focus is
05:07 with the Dream Academy. - Yes! And I've found
05:11 God's divine plan- what the servant of
05:14 God calls-God's divine plan for the development
05:18 of Christian character. It's in 2 Peter 1:5-7.
05:24 God says, "There are 8 dimensions of
05:26 character. I want you to have-want all of
05:28 my children to have- strong faith, values
05:32 or virtue or moral integrity, a love of
05:37 knowledge and learning, self-control, patience,
05:43 a respect for what is sacred or holiness-
05:47 a respect for what is holy-kindness, and
05:51 love. Those 8 dimensions, what we focus on,
05:56 because it's God's divine plan-for the
05:59 development of character. For example,
06:01 patience. The children who learn patience are
06:07 the ones who go on to be the most successful.
06:10 Why? I heard a man say once, "I've seen
06:13 impatience," he said, "destroy more talented
06:16 people than anything else." That's why
06:20 you get into things that you shouldn't get
06:23 into before you should get into them. That's
06:27 what teenage pregnancy's all about; that's what
06:30 trying things- learn to be patient, and
06:33 it helps. - Deferred gratification. - That's
06:37 correct. - Right? They have research
06:39 studies that show that children who can
06:41 defer gratification... The question was
06:45 asked, "Do you want these apples now?"
06:48 I don't remember what the thing was. "Now?
06:50 Or can you wait for 20 more minutes and
06:53 get 2 apples?" It was something like that,
06:56 and the children who could wait are the
06:59 children who later became the most
07:01 successful. - Absolutely. Character's important.
07:04 - Yeah. It is, truly. - Absolutely. Well,
07:07 we're so thankful for the work that you're
07:08 doing there. You are known around the world
07:11 as a singer, speaker, you're still a pastor,
07:15 so I don't know how he does it all, but...
07:19 - I know! He's always on a plane! He and
07:21 Linda-they're always riding a plane. - I
07:23 started to say I thought I've traveled
07:24 a lot over the years, but he definitely
07:26 travels more than I have. Literally, you've
07:29 been on a plane for, sometimes, several times
07:33 a week for 30+ years. - And you have to
07:35 have a church that loves you and a church
07:39 that supports you. I've been pastoring my
07:42 church for 16 years. - Oh, wow. - So,
07:45 just to be able to say that is a testament
07:49 of blessing. I pastored the Palm
07:51 Bay Seventh-Day Adventist church in
07:53 Palm Bay, Florida, and I've got members
07:56 who, wherever I am in the world, I know
07:58 they're praying for me. Do you know what
08:01 that's like? To know that you have members
08:03 who see you not just as the pastor of the
08:06 Palm Bay church, or of the church, but
08:09 the pastor FROM the church to the rest
08:12 of the world. It's a beautiful thing.
08:15 I love them, and I think they love me, too.
08:19 - What I'd like to do- he's going to be doing
08:23 a few songs for us, so we don't have a
08:24 lot of time to talk. Give us the short
08:28 version of how a little boy from Trinidad,
08:31 growing up, ends up singing before presidents-
08:35 around the world- kings and queens and
08:37 presidents, and many presidents here in
08:39 the United States of America. How do you
08:41 get from that point, playing in the sand,
08:45 watching airplanes take off, to being
08:47 now literally known for singing around
08:49 the world the gospel music? - Well, I had
08:54 an aunt that came by to visit me one day,
08:56 and she was looking at the pictures of
08:57 me and the 6 presidents of the United States
09:00 and different magazine covers... She said,
09:05 "I want to tell you something," so we
09:06 sat down. She said, "When your father,
09:10 my brother- we had a sister named Pearl.
09:15 A couple years before you were born, 1953,
09:22 Pearl died while trying to deal with an
09:30 unwanted pregnancy situation. We were
09:35 broken. The family was just devastated.
09:38 When your mother became pregnant
09:41 with you, there were some who were urging
09:44 her that she needed to do the same, but
09:47 we gathered around and said, 'Absolutely
09:49 not.' We've been through too much.
09:54 Your mother's mother paid a visit to your
09:59 father's mother. They closed the door,
10:01 they came together, and they made a pact
10:05 that they were going to pray for the life
10:08 of this child. The prayer that they
10:12 covenanted-that they would pray-was,
10:15 "Lord, make this child's life a blessing
10:19 to the world." So, I would like to think
10:25 that the voice God gave me, the opportunities...
10:29 All of those wonderful opportunities that
10:33 I've had in life... But I've got to
10:36 understand and remember that I am
10:39 living the answer to Grandmother's prayers.
10:44 The thing that also moved me was because
10:50 my aunt Pearl died, I was able to live.
10:56 God saw my situation and decided that He
11:00 would place in my throat something
11:03 unique in the world. I praise Him for it.
11:06 I don't deserve it. I look back now after
11:10 40+ years of only singing for the glory
11:14 of God. That was my way of saying, "Thank
11:20 you, Lord. Thank You for sparing my life,
11:23 thank You for giving me an opportunity
11:27 to be a candidate for the kingdom of
11:29 heaven, thank You for allowing me not just
11:33 to live on Earth, but because of the
11:36 grace of Jesus, I can live forever." I
11:41 hope that answers your question...in a different
11:44 way, but... - It does. One of the
11:46 things that I most appreciate about
11:47 Wintley, and what I appreciate about
11:50 you- I don't just throw out compliments
11:52 all the time. One of the things that
11:54 I believe it's why God has blessed Him
11:56 so abundantly is that I have noticed-
11:59 and known you a long time-and I've
12:00 noticed over the years when people
12:02 get into the arenas that you are, that you
12:06 sing in before congressmen, senators,
12:09 presidents, and again, kings and queens
12:13 around the world, it seems-and I don't
12:16 want to say most, but- many compromise
12:19 the integrity of their music, because when
12:21 you're singing, and some of the folk you
12:24 sing for are very well-known-in secular
12:27 world, as well. So, people get that-
12:31 I saw it way back in Elvis' day when
12:34 a lot of the gospel groups he had sing
12:36 with him instead of them helping him to
12:39 be converted, they all ended up-many
12:42 of those, I should say; not all-many
12:44 of those went the way of the world,
12:45 but I've seen that you've stayed
12:47 focused on your music. You haven't lost
12:49 sight of the words, the styles of music,
12:53 the communication, and that's apparently-
12:57 I wouldn't say it's been an easy thing
12:59 for you to do, but I believe that's why
13:02 God's blessed you. We're going to be
13:05 doing some of the songs here from the new
13:08 project, and it will say exactly what I've
13:11 been saying. After all these years,
13:13 you're still holding fast to what you
13:16 know to be truth and integrity. - Well,
13:18 thank you. It's very simple, really. When
13:22 I walk out or whenever I sing, Jesus is on
13:26 the front row. What I'm doing-whatever
13:30 I'm doing-is for Him first. And so, you
13:35 have to do it with the greatest integrity
13:39 that you can, your heart has to be as
13:42 right as it could be, because you're
13:45 standing before your Savior, the King of
13:48 the universe... So, Jesus is on the front
13:51 row. If other people are blessed, praise
13:54 God; but really, as Ellen White says,
13:57 the purpose of music is to glorify God.
14:02 That's the purpose of it. This past
14:06 week, I had the opportunity to sing
14:10 at the memorial service for a great
14:14 American by the name of Rich DeVos, who's
14:18 the founder of Amway and also owned the
14:23 Orlando Magic basketball team. I was so humbled
14:31 that this man wanted me to be the only
14:36 singer at his memorial service and chose the
14:41 songs. He chose "I'd Rather Have Jesus"
14:46 than silver or gold... Here's a billionaire
14:51 saying, "I'd rather have Jesus than
14:55 silver or gold; I'd rather be His than
14:58 have riches untold." He also chose "He
15:02 Touched Me," and that's why this CD
15:06 that we've done is so special for me,
15:09 because we're doing a lot of the songs that
15:11 are the soundtrack of people's faith. It's
15:16 the soundtrack of growing in the Lord,
15:20 you know? "Shall We Gather at the River,"
15:22 "At the Cross," "Jesus Is Coming Again..."
15:26 - "Softly and Tenderly." - "Jesus Paid It All..."
15:31 All of those songs that are really the
15:33 soundtrack of our faith and growing
15:36 in the Lord. And of course, the CD is
15:39 entitled, "Glorious Church." It's titled
15:43 after a song that you commissioned, and I
15:48 felt very honored that you asked me to do
15:52 that song, "Glorious Church." - It was
15:54 written for you by Lanny Wolfe. - It was
15:56 literally written for me... All right! Well.
15:58 It is an amazing song that captures,
16:06 prophetically, where we are, but also the
16:12 triumph of the church of God in the end.
16:18 "Glorious Church" is just one of those
16:19 very unique songs. The lyrics, the message,
16:24 and the music and the orchestration...but
16:27 it captures that Babylon is spiritual
16:33 confusion, it is the union of church and
16:38 state, it's the church embracing state power
16:45 and thinking that they're invincible,
16:47 when the truth of the matter is, it's a
16:51 fallen church. When you ally with Babylon...
16:54 You know, you and I have always been
16:58 around people who try to pull people out
17:02 of the church. They can always find
17:07 something wrong with the church. I told
17:09 a story the other day of a man who
17:12 said to a pastor, "I'm not coming to
17:14 your church because you have a lady by
17:16 the name of Sister Brunson, and she's
17:18 this, and you have another man by the
17:20 name of Mr. Johnson; he's that." I'm just
17:23 as good as they are. So, the pastor, a
17:27 couple weeks later, came to the farmer
17:29 and said, "I'd like to buy a pig from
17:32 you." He said, "Okay." He brought out his
17:36 best pig. He said, "No, no, no, no. I
17:39 want that pig over there." He said, "No!
17:41 You don't want to buy THAT one! That's
17:43 the worst pig I got!" He said, "Well, how
17:45 would you feel if I buy that pig..." No,
17:48 he actually bought the pig! He said, "Okay,
17:50 you know what I'm going to do? I want
17:52 to go throughout the county and tell people
17:54 this is kind of pigs you produce." [laughter]
17:58 Sometimes, we pick out a person- the
18:02 Bible says the wheat and tares grow together.
18:04 We pick out the tares and go and
18:06 say, "This is what the wheat over there
18:08 looks like." You know what I mean? So, one
18:12 of the things about the church that's
18:14 really, really important is that Babylon is a
18:20 mixture of a confusion and the church state
18:25 of power, but the Lord reminds us in
18:28 this song, "Glorious Church," that His
18:31 church will triumph in the end. - You know,
18:34 Yvonne, this was such a great set-up.
18:36 I was going to have him do this one last,
18:38 but I think what we'll do is- we actually-
18:41 you sang it at camp meeting and it's on
18:45 a DVD. I think we'd like to have you do
18:48 that. Now, didn't you co-write that song with
18:50 Lanny Wolfe? - Yes. - Aw! Awesome!
18:53 - She wrote out the main points. Basically,
18:57 she co-writes with him like I do, I think.
18:59 Like, "Lanny, could you really write about
19:01 this subject or talk about Babylon? Can
19:03 you do this?" Put your names on there as
19:05 a co-writer, too. We're going to go to
19:09 that, and then we're going to come back.
19:10 Hopefully, we'll have time for you to do
19:11 about two or three more songs, at least;
19:14 we'll talk about those. This is the song,
19:16 "Glorious Church."
26:26 [audience applauds]
26:35 - Amen. Praise the Lord. - That song is
26:39 just... The anointing is on that song. Your
26:46 delivery of the song is just so- I remember
26:51 when we were in the studio, and he was
26:53 singing it. I was just feeling like, "Oh,
26:56 this is just amazing." - I talked to Lanny Wolfe
27:00 yesterday, the writer, and he said to me,
27:03 "I was just listening again to the songs,"
27:06 and these are Lanny's words. "No one could
27:10 deliver 'Glorious Church' like Wintley
27:13 Phipps did." He said this song was written
27:17 literally for him to deliver it in the way
27:20 that you did. We give God the credit, but
27:22 He blessed you with that ability. I'm glad
27:25 that you're using it for Him. Now, we
27:28 want to go to the next song. We'll
27:30 have you get ready in a moment to do
27:31 that. Yvonne, this is one of your-
27:34 tell us what he's getting ready to tell
27:35 us a little about this song. - Listen.
27:37 I listen to this song over and over
27:42 and over again. One day, I just had to call
27:44 brother Pastor Wintley and say,
27:46 "This song is just blessing me." I
27:49 made him promise that if I go to sleep
27:54 before the Lord comes that he will come and
27:56 sing this song for my memorial. This song
27:59 is just so beautiful. - And you know what
28:01 I told him; I said, "You'll outlive all
28:03 of us." - Well, I don't know about that.
28:06 Oh, this song blesses me. When my daddy
28:09 was sick, I played it for him in the
28:12 nursing home. This song is just a beautiful,
28:16 beautiful song. It ministers to my spirit.
28:19 - Great. Right now, you'll be blessed as
28:21 he sings, "No Need to Fear."
28:50 No need to fear when times of trouble come
28:58 Oppression storm beats at your door
29:08 No need to fear
29:17 No need to fear though evil seems so strong
29:26 Their pride and power is not for long
29:34 Be still, my soul
29:40 And trust in God
29:45 And place your life
29:49 Into His hands
29:53 For He will never, never fail you
30:03 And in the morning, you'll see His face
30:12 No need to fear...
30:17 Don't fear
30:30 No need to fear The envy and the scorn
30:39 Of those who boast in what they own
30:48 No need to fear
30:55 For what remains when life's brief day is done
31:04 Their glories are a setting sun
31:13 But as for me, of this, I'm sure
31:22 God will redeem
31:27 My soul from death
31:31 And He will never, never fail me
31:41 And in the morning, I'll see His face
32:12 And He will never fail you
32:22 No one can tell you from His love
32:31 And He will never forsake you
32:40 And in the morning
32:46 You'll see His face
32:52 No need to fear
33:00 Don't fear
33:20 - Amen. You happy now? - You know what?
33:23 I'm telling you! That song just ministers
33:26 so much to me. - Absolutely. Why
33:29 don't you give us, while he's coming back
33:31 here, sitting down, give us a list of
33:33 some of the songs. - Sure, sure. Okay,
33:36 "Glorious Church," "At the Cross," "Shall
33:39 We Gather at the River," "In Christ
33:41 Alone," "Crown Him with Many Crowns,"
33:44 "Jesus Paid It All," "Softly and Tenderly,"
33:47 "Old Rugged Cross," "This Is My Father's
33:50 World," "Jesus Is Coming Again," and
33:53 "No Need to Fear." - All right. - What
33:56 beautiful songs! - Aren't they? And
33:58 the orchestrations and all that's beautiful,
34:01 also. Pastor Phipps, when you do something,
34:06 you set your mind to it. You do it
34:08 quickly. It wasn't that long ago; it
34:10 seemed like a few days, but I guess it's
34:12 been a month or two- a couple months ago
34:14 that he called me and said, "Hey, I'm
34:16 thinking about doing this new project."
34:19 Invited him to do it here, put his vocals
34:21 on here, and it was like no time. Really cool. When
34:27 I do something like that, it takes me forever
34:29 to go in. He's like, "Well, we've got
34:30 it all done. We're ready now. We're
34:32 ready to mix it," and I'm like... "You didn't
34:34 even have time- are you kidding me?"
34:36 That's what happens when you don't have
34:38 to stop, make fixes; you have that voice
34:40 and it keeps going. Absolutely incredible.
34:44 Brand-new project by Pastor Phipps. We'll
34:46 tell you in a little bit how you may
34:48 get it; but right now, we want to go to
34:50 the next song. Tell us a little bit about
34:52 "Coming Again." - Well, I wrote this song
34:55 and placed at the end of it the great hymn,
34:58 "Jesus Is Coming Again." The first part of it
35:01 tells- the lyric, actually, is an angel
35:06 singing. The angel is singing to the
35:10 disciples. - And you wrote this. - Yes, I
35:13 wrote the first part. And the angel says,
35:15 "Why stand ye gazing there up into the
35:17 sky? Be not discouraged. We have brought good
35:21 news. The same Jesus that you see going
35:24 away, He will come again, and like manna."
35:27 Then we put the triumphant hymn at
35:30 the end of it, "Lift up the trumpet and
35:31 loud let it sing. Jesus is coming again."
35:35 It's been a blessing to be able to put that
35:38 perspective. I never see anybody talk
35:45 about the coming of Christ from the
35:48 perspective of the angels ministering
35:52 to the disciples, giving them this
35:56 great, great news that He's coming again.
35:58 - Absolutely. Well, we're going to have
36:01 to put on his list of accomplishments
36:03 now-songwriter, too. [laughter]
36:06 Have you written other songs?
36:07 - Oh, yes. I've written hundreds
36:09 of songs. Matter of fact- this has been
36:12 an interesting experience. I got
36:14 a call one day from, of all people, Aretha
36:17 Franklin. She said if I would come and
36:21 spend the afternoon with her. I said,
36:22 "Sure!" I love ministering to people
36:25 no matter where, you know? So I went,
36:26 and she sat down at the piano and
36:30 started playing songs that I had written
36:34 that she had heard. She was singing them
36:37 back to me. My, what an experience. She
36:41 said, "Remember me when you come-"
36:45 that's another song I wrote from the
36:48 perspective of the thief on the cross
36:49 saying, "Lord, remember me when You come into
36:52 Your kingdom," and she was singing that
36:54 to me! So, yes; I've written many songs
36:58 through the years. This song, with "Coming
37:02 Again" on the end of it, it's one of them.
37:04 - Well, what happened is, I recognize some
37:06 of those, but I didn't know you wrote them.
37:08 - Yeah! I didn't know he wrote "Remember
37:10 Me!" - So, he's not saying, "Hey, look
37:12 what I wrote!" or "Look what I did!"
37:13 He sings them, and I'm like, "Wow, those
37:15 are beautiful songs." But I heard this one,
37:17 the "Coming Again." It's a fabulous song.
37:21 Just was surprised that you wrote it;
37:23 not that you couldn't, but you didn't even
37:26 mention, "Well, hey, I wrote this song."
37:28 Anyway, we want you to do it in just a
37:31 moment, so, again- it's a brand-new
37:33 project (if you're just joining us), and
37:35 it's entitled "Glorious Church." Right now,
37:38 Wintley' s going to be singing-I think
37:40 it's a beautiful song- "Coming Again."
38:20 Why stand ye gazing there up into the sky?
38:31 Be not discouraged
38:37 For we have brought good news
38:43 This same Jesus whom we do magnify
38:53 Soon, He will come again for all to glorify
39:07 He is coming again
39:14 He is coming again
39:21 Son of the Father
39:26 He is coming again
39:32 On Calvary, He claimed my destiny
39:38 Lord, I humble myself
39:48 To Thee
39:58 Lord, I want to see Your face
40:04 Just help me be strong
40:11 I know You will return
40:16 I know it won't be long
40:23 He is coming again
40:29 He is coming again
40:36 Son of the Father
40:42 He is coming again
40:48 On calvary, He claimed my destiny
40:54 Lord, I humble myself
41:04 To Thee
41:09 Lift up the trumpet and loud let it ring
41:14 Jesus is coming again
41:18 Cheer up ye pilgrims
41:21 Be joyful and sing
41:23 Jesus is coming again
41:28 Coming again, coming again
41:32 Jesus is coming again
41:36 Coming again, coming again
41:41 Jesus is coming again
41:52 - Amen. - Wow. Isn't it great, the way it
41:54 tied those two songs together? I mean,
41:58 that's just... What a blessing. - I'm still-
42:01 I hadn't realized some of these songs
42:03 that, because he's never really- I've
42:05 known him for years, but he doesn't say,
42:07 "Hey, I wrote this song; I wrote that." I know
42:09 those songs, I just didn't really look to
42:11 see who wrote them. My hats off again.
42:14 He's always doing something, bringing
42:16 us something you didn't know before
42:18 after all these years. Wintley, it's great
42:21 having you here today, and I know
42:24 that it's a program; we could literally
42:27 talk to you for hours-some of your
42:29 experiences. And I know, because he
42:31 doesn't just name-drop. He's able to minister
42:35 to so many of these people that many of
42:37 us couldn't do, and God's opened that
42:40 door. That's a door. You've gone
42:43 through it, again, with integrity,
42:45 without compromising. You go through, and
42:48 when God opens that door, you minister
42:50 to these folk because everybody is a soul.
42:53 No soul's more important than the others, but
42:56 some of us can reach people here and some
42:58 reach there. God has opened up the door
43:01 for you to reach people that are
43:03 well-known. I know that some of the
43:05 folks and movie stars and secular music
43:09 and all of this- again, we talked about, in the
43:12 political arena, that God has opened those
43:14 doors. I'm thankful that you go there.
43:17 You've not compromised, but you lift up Jesus.
43:22 - Well, when I was, I guess in my 20s,
43:25 God gave me a quote- I believe it was from
43:30 Him-and I share it and I have been sharing
43:33 it with people all my ministry. You
43:37 don't have to compromise to be recognized.
43:40 - OK. That's good. - You don't have to
43:43 compromise to be recognized. I've
43:47 lived that story. I've tried my best to be
43:51 faithful. Music- the servant of God calls
43:56 it an "entering wedge." It is
43:59 a tool that God uses to get past people's
44:04 defenses, to get past many of the
44:09 hurdles that they put up. If you think
44:13 about it, just about all of us have a song
44:17 that we connect very closely to our conversion.
44:23 For everybody, it's different. For me,
44:29 I was a student of Kingsway College
44:32 back in 1971, '72. The kids were singing
44:39 a song back then, "It only takes a
44:43 spark to get a fire going, and that's
44:51 how it is with God's love once you've
44:55 experienced it. You want to sing; it's
44:58 fresh like spring. You want to pass it on."
45:05 Don't tell me you don't know that song.
45:07 - I don't. - Oh! Danny, you gotta
45:10 sing it to her. You gotta teach her that.
45:13 Well, she's a lot younger than we are.
45:16 - Oh, right. - Not really, but she
45:18 appreciates it. - Don't say that! [laughter]
45:21 - We gotta be truthful here. - So, back in
45:24 1971, '72, that was the song that touched
45:30 me. I associate that song with God's
45:34 Spirit and His power touching my life,
45:38 changing my life. One of the great
45:41 joys I've had is, the man who wrote
45:46 that song became a friend, and he actually
45:50 played on one of my early albums. His
45:53 name is Kurt Kaiser. Kurt Kaiser wrote
45:56 that song, so the joy of meeting the person
46:00 that wrote the song that God used to bring
46:03 you to Him... So, when people pick up
46:08 this CD and donate to the ministry-and some
46:11 people will purchase it, I'm sure-just think
46:15 that one of those songs may just
46:19 touch a person's heart in a way that you'll
46:22 see them in the kingdom of heaven
46:24 because of one of those songs. - And
46:27 watch this, now. Since our time is
46:29 about gone, because we're going to be
46:31 talking about God's amazing love- I'm
46:34 transitioning here to this- yeah, we're segueing
46:38 into the last... So why don't you
46:40 get ready. We do have time for one
46:42 more song. This is a beautiful song also.
46:44 And again, we'll put up an address
46:46 in a little bit so you can see how
46:48 you may purchase your own copies of Glorious
46:51 Church. Right now, "Amazing Love."
47:09 Amazing love How can it be
47:16 You broke the chains And set me free
47:23 You fill my life With joy untold
47:30 You light my spirit You feed my soul
47:37 Now, I want to let the whole world know
47:43 Of all You've done for me
47:50 I want to praise Your name
48:00 Amazing love How can it be
48:07 You sent Your Son to die for me
48:14 He took the blame, carried my shame
48:21 All the way to calvary
48:28 When I thought I was forever lost
48:35 You caught my falling soul
48:41 I want to love You more
48:54 Amazing love
49:01 Amazing love
49:08 Amazing, amazing love
49:19 Amazing love How can it be
49:26 You would give Your life for me
49:32 You bring such comfort to my soul
49:40 You raise me up and make me whole
49:47 Now, I want to let the whole world know
49:54 Of all You've done for me
50:01 I don't think I could ever,
50:07 ever love You more
50:14 Amazing love
50:20 Amazing love
50:29 Amazing love How can it be
50:35 Now, I'll live eternally
50:41 I once was lost
50:45 But now I'm found
50:49 I was blind, but now I see
50:56 And now, I am forever Yours
51:03 Soon, I'll see Your face
51:09 And I will love You more
51:19 Amazing love
51:26 Amazing love
51:33 Amazing love
51:42 Amazing love
51:55 - God's love is amazing. AMAZING love. Again,
51:59 the tone that Pastor Wintley has is just
52:02 so beautiful. It's such a gift. - And
52:06 music is a gift. It changes lives. - It does.
52:10 - It brings peace, it brings joy... There
52:14 are so many things I could say today,
52:15 but this project, Glorious Church...
52:20 I promise you, you'll be blessed. So,
52:23 what I'd like to do is we're going to put
52:25 an address up on the screen so you can
52:27 get your own copy of this. We want
52:30 you to share it. May want to get several
52:31 to share with your friends and your
52:33 neighbors and those around you, but
52:35 I know you'll be blessed. If you
52:37 get your own copy, here's how you can do it.
52:42 - If you would like more information on
52:44 today's guest, please contact us here at
52:46 3ABN. Our phone number is area code (618) 627-4651.
52:53 That's (618) 627-4651. You may also write
52:59 to us at 3ABN Post Office Box 220 West
53:04 Frankfort, Illinois 62896. Please be sure to
53:09 have today's date and our guest name as
53:12 this will greatly help us to find the
53:14 information you need. Again, our address
53:17 is 3ABN Post Office Box 220 West Frankfort,
53:21 Illinois 62896.


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