3ABN Today

Personal Testimony and Evangelism

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Program Code: TDY190080A


00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:19 Removing pain
00:24 Lord, let my words
00:30 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I want to spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:46 I want to spend my life
00:51 Mending broken people
01:09 Hello, friends, welcome to 3ABN Today.
01:11 We're so glad that you've taken the time to pause your day
01:15 and to join us for a very informative program.
01:17 My name is John Lomacang.
01:19 I have my wife to my left.
01:20 Honey, good to have you here. I'm so glad to be here.
01:22 It's gonna be a great program. That's right.
01:24 I'm really looking forward to this program,
01:25 comrades at ministry.
01:27 That's right.
01:28 We're talking about united prayer.
01:29 Not just prayer,
01:31 because so many of us pray by ourselves,
01:33 but what happens when the people of God
01:36 get together and pray?
01:37 There's a kind of a duplicate of the Day of Pentecost.
01:40 Yes.
01:41 And you know what happened, if you read your Bible
01:43 on the Day of Pentecost,
01:44 when they got together in prayer.
01:46 And so today we're gonna talk about
01:47 how powerful prayer is when it's united.
01:51 When hearts are together, when walls are brought down,
01:55 and people are focused on a common goal,
01:56 and then also evangelism.
01:58 A lot of times people say that evangelism is dead.
02:02 What you'll find out today evangelism is not dead.
02:05 And with the society today that's so distracted...
02:06 Yeah.
02:08 That may even assist in reviving evangelism,
02:12 because people want real things,
02:14 tired of devices...
02:16 Right.
02:18 Phones, and computers, and fast moving things.
02:20 Sometimes people want to get back to the basics of life.
02:22 So stay tuned, it's gonna be a very informative
02:24 and I believe transformative program.
02:27 Yes, I am too. Amen.
02:28 And so let's go ahead and introduce our guests
02:29 before we go to our music.
02:31 Sure, yeah.
02:32 Pastor Robert and Elida Meneses.
02:33 Meneses.
02:35 I said that correctly, right? Yes, sir.
02:36 Good to have you here.
02:37 It's good to be here.
02:39 Since you're close with... Yeah.
02:40 You had it so far, we'll shake your hand.
02:42 But good to have you both here.
02:43 Thank you so much.
02:44 And you are first here on 3ABN.
02:46 Mm-hmm.
02:47 And first time here on 3ABN.
02:48 Yep.
02:50 And we look forward to your story and testimony.
02:51 And I'm encouraging our viewers and listeners to stay tuned
02:53 because this is gonna be a very exciting program.
02:55 Absolutely.
02:56 And the Lord has brought all of us
02:58 from someplace different
02:59 as we were getting to know each other.
03:01 I said, "I'm the only American,
03:03 the one American on this program."
03:05 They were all made in different places.
03:06 You were made in England. Mm-hmm.
03:08 You were made in...
03:09 Portugal. Portugal.
03:10 And you were made in? Colombia.
03:12 Colombia.
03:13 And we'll get a chance to introduce all of you
03:15 in just a moment.
03:16 But, Honey, well,
03:17 who do we have for music and what do we have?
03:19 Well, we have some great music, Jeff Pearles
03:20 and the song is, "Jesus and Me."
03:31 I traveled alone upon life's lonesome way
03:38 My burdens were heavy
03:41 And dark was my day
03:44 I looked for a friend
03:48 Not knowing that He Had all the time
03:54 Been looking for me
03:58 And now, it's Jesus and me
04:01 For each tomorrow
04:04 For every heartache
04:08 And every sorrow
04:11 I know that I can depend Upon my new found friend
04:17 And so till the end
04:21 It's Jesus and me
04:28 Forever I'll sing of His great love for me
04:34 Forever I'll tell it
04:37 On land and on sea
04:41 I'll stay by His side, contented I'll be
04:47 For all of my life
04:51 It's Jesus and me
04:54 And now, it's Jesus and me For each tomorrow
05:01 For every heartache, and every sorrow
05:07 I know that I can depend
05:10 Upon my new found friend
05:14 And so till the end It's Jesus and me
05:20 And now, it's Jesus and me
05:24 For each tomorrow
05:27 For every heartache, and every sorrow
05:34 I know that I can depend
05:37 Upon my new found friend
05:40 And so till the end
05:44 It's Jesus and me
05:47 And so till the end It's Jesus and me
06:00 Thank you so much for that wonderful song.
06:02 Happy song, Jesus and Me. I love that.
06:03 Exactly, Jesus and me.
06:05 And Jesus and Me is a winning combination.
06:07 Absolutely.
06:09 So I think on that note,
06:10 we're going to just say once again,
06:12 welcome Pastor Robert and Elida Meneses.
06:14 Yep.
06:15 Thank you for coming to 3ABN.
06:17 Glad to be here. And...
06:18 What church do they pastor?
06:20 What church do they pastor? Yeah, one of you.
06:21 Yeah, we are in Alabama
06:23 and at the Gulf States Conference
06:25 and pastor of the Decatur
06:26 and Coleman Seventh-day Adventist Churches there.
06:28 Okay.
06:30 And two wonderful people that you guys know,
06:34 Hal and Mollie Steenson are members
06:36 in Decatur now there.
06:37 That's right.
06:39 And we're just blessed that they're there.
06:40 And they speak very highly of you.
06:42 They say, "We love our pastor and his wife."
06:43 Yes.
06:44 She said, they're such a...
06:46 Mollie said, "They are such a cute couple."
06:47 Yeah. I remember that.
06:48 So now we know what they're talking about.
06:50 Mm-hmm.
06:51 Good to have you here.
06:52 Thank you. And...
06:54 Elida.
06:55 Elida, tell us a little bit about you?
06:57 Well, I am from Colombia.
06:58 Okay.
07:00 And I came to the States 12 years ago
07:02 as a student missionary with Review and Herald.
07:05 Okay.
07:06 And so God blessed and then I,
07:10 you know, went to Southern and here I am.
07:12 How did you meet?
07:14 We met online...
07:15 Like, initially we met online.
07:17 Mm-hmm.
07:18 And things simply work out initially there with that,
07:23 but then we just sort of rekindled that at Southern.
07:26 What they used to call Southern Matrimony University
07:29 or Southern Adventist University.
07:32 Oh, really so.
07:33 So online, I don't want to go through the details.
07:36 You said it didn't work out there.
07:38 Yeah. Yeah.
07:40 Electronic. Yeah, it didn't.
07:41 You know, she was like pursuing,
07:44 I guess somebody else and then,
07:46 you know, anyway just didn't work out.
07:50 Just go ahead and tell.
07:51 I really pray a lot even before getting on a website.
07:54 Right.
07:56 And we're gonna be talking about prayer.
07:57 Yes.
07:58 And prayer definitely has to be something very personal.
08:01 Absolutely.
08:02 It's not only church and personal.
08:05 So I took it very serious and said,
08:08 "If I'm gonna go online,
08:10 if God is gonna do this for me, in this way."
08:14 I knew that God was gonna bring someone
08:16 that I work for Christ with.
08:19 But he said, "Yes."
08:21 And God said, "Okay."
08:24 We went online and which is a few weeks
08:27 and I found him.
08:29 Oh! Okay.
08:30 I did found him.
08:31 But then you rekindled at Southern Matrimony University.
08:35 Yeah.
08:36 The other way you said, I like that.
08:38 Yeah. Yeah.
08:39 So we sort of met there again
08:40 and then she wouldn't leave me alone.
08:44 Well, God has a purpose definitely.
08:45 Yeah.
08:47 You know, I felt like God was leading.
08:48 You know, again lot of prayer, it's a serious decision.
08:50 Oh, yeah.
08:51 And we prayed individually,
08:54 God was leading to see doors opening
08:55 and opening and just led to...
08:59 Praise the Lord. God made.
09:00 You know, we met online.
09:01 In the first conversation online was,
09:04 "What is your favorite preacher?"
09:06 I think that he asked.
09:08 So and I said something about
09:10 what pastor will I like to hear?
09:12 And he said, "Me too."
09:13 Oh, wow!
09:15 And then a few months later when he goes to Southern,
09:18 and we met in person,
09:20 and this is the first time ever face to face.
09:24 And you know what he did at the end?
09:26 What?
09:27 Well, he said, "Bye," after few minutes,
09:29 he said, "Let's pray," he was very serious.
09:32 He closed his eyes and he started praying,
09:34 "Lord..."
09:35 And I saw, you know, he's a man of prayer, is God,
09:39 we want to invite God from the very beginning.
09:42 If this is gonna be or it's not gonna work out for us,
09:46 just let's invite God.
09:48 I remember that about him.
09:49 That was the first time I met him.
09:50 He invited me to pray. Oh!
09:52 Wow, prayer changes things.
09:54 Yeah. Praise the Lord.
09:56 That was a good sign.
09:57 And that's now two children, a boy and a girl.
10:02 A boy and a girl, the boy is four, Robert Jr.
10:04 M- hmm. And the girl is Melanie.
10:08 Wow! She's one.
10:09 Wow! Yeah.
10:11 Busy thing. Praise the Lord.
10:12 You're a stay-home mom?
10:13 Yes, I stay home.
10:15 Yes. Good.
10:16 It's a full-time job.
10:18 Oh, somebody once said that,
10:19 "Wives, if wives were paid
10:21 for what it costs to raise a child?"
10:22 Yeah.
10:23 "They would be like over $100,000 a year."
10:25 Yeah.
10:26 Just in, because that every...
10:27 That influence will last for a lifetime.
10:30 Yes.
10:31 But give us a little bit of your background,
10:33 because I know that you've been both married now,
10:36 how many years?
10:37 Eight.
10:38 Eight years? Mm-hmm.
10:40 Two children.
10:41 How many years in ministry now?
10:42 About seven and a half. Okay.
10:44 Yeah. Yeah.
10:45 So since you're not eight years old,
10:47 you know, I'm saying that lightheartedly,
10:50 tell us a little bit about your past,
10:52 because everyone has a journey.
10:54 Everyone is on a journey. That's right.
10:55 Everybody starts at some place and to appreciate,
10:58 I've often said this, Honey.
11:00 You know, to appreciate where we are,
11:02 we have to look back at where we came from.
11:03 Yeah.
11:05 Talk about where we came from?
11:06 Yeah.
11:07 I mean, God is good.
11:09 I was born in Portugal, and in Lisbon.
11:11 Oh, wow!
11:12 My grandfather was Seventh-day Adventist pastor there.
11:16 So, you know, we were born in a Christian home,
11:22 but when I was young,
11:23 my aunt who lives here in California,
11:26 sort of convinced my parents to come to the States,
11:29 so we came to the States when I was young.
11:32 And we were in California for a little bit
11:34 and went up to Washington State.
11:36 And then my dad was like,
11:38 "Well, I don't like earthquakes."
11:40 Mm-hmm.
11:42 So I guess he liked hurricanes better,
11:43 so we went to Florida
11:45 and spent most of my time in Tampa, Florida there.
11:48 Okay. Yep.
11:50 But then, before you were...
11:54 Now you said, you were raised as Adventist,
11:58 but your journey kind of meandered?
12:00 Yeah.
12:01 When I was younger, maybe around,
12:03 I don't know 10 to 13, you know, life is difficult,
12:08 and, you know, we live in a sinful world.
12:12 And we praise God that God is always with us
12:14 though we are in a difficult world
12:15 and never God's plan for that,
12:17 of course, but He came to save us
12:19 but, so we fell into very hard time,
12:22 we became homeless
12:25 just through different circumstances
12:27 of my dad and mom just losing jobs and stuff.
12:33 So we are eventually in a homeless shelter
12:35 for a little bit and just through those
12:37 life circumstances, we just left the church,
12:39 you know, and just began to do that.
12:42 And as a young person, you just follow your parents
12:44 and got into that and what began to happen is,
12:47 is that sports became my life.
12:49 And though I was from Portugal,
12:53 you know, where they play sort of the real football.
12:55 Right like soccer. Exactly.
12:56 Soccer, we call it.
12:57 But my passion was American football
12:59 and that was my life.
13:01 I ate, drank, slept anything, just all the time was football.
13:06 My dream was to, you know,
13:07 just to climb the ladder and go to the NFL one day.
13:10 Wow! Hmm.
13:11 Yeah.
13:12 And so were you involved in high school football or?
13:14 I was, yeah.
13:15 So, you know, I played out in the streets,
13:18 you know, but then in high school began to play,
13:21 I was a wide receiver and I was small
13:23 but I was very fast.
13:25 I was running like four three in the 40,
13:26 if you know anything about football, that it's good.
13:29 And I was doing well, you know, I was doing well
13:32 and I had a picture in the paper
13:35 and was leading the conference in yardage.
13:38 Anyway, everything was like coming true,
13:40 but my dream was coming true to eventually go to college
13:44 and so forth.
13:45 But then God stepped in looking back now.
13:48 And during a game my senior year,
13:51 I ruptured my spleen.
13:53 Oh! Wow!
13:54 This was in Florida?
13:56 Yes, in Tampa. In Tampa.
13:57 Yeah. Yeah.
13:58 So God looking back broaden into that.
14:02 Yeah, here's an article there about that.
14:04 And, you know, I learned quickly
14:07 and there's a pivotal moment here
14:08 just quickly how I knew God.
14:10 God is so good, God is so faithful that,
14:13 you know, we, you know, playing high school football,
14:16 you play Friday nights, you know, which you know,
14:18 Sabbath is sunset Friday, sunset Saturday.
14:22 And so, you know, deep down inside,
14:24 you know that this wasn't the right thing to do,
14:27 not honoring the Sabbath.
14:29 And, but when I was there in the hospital
14:31 because of the CAT scan, you have a ruptured spleen.
14:34 They kept me in intensive care for a week to see
14:36 if things might mingle back together.
14:38 But a week later, another CAT scan,
14:40 I had internal bleeding, it was getting really serious.
14:43 So they had to remove it.
14:44 So you know, at a teenager and I was scared to death.
14:48 And I remember like it was yesterday
14:50 that I was there in the room and a nurse comes in says,
14:52 "Are you ready?
14:54 You know, we're gonna take you now to have surgery."
14:56 And I remember, you know, knowing that I had in a sense,
15:00 turned my back on God
15:02 and hadn't been fully following Him.
15:04 Now God's Word says, "That if you call on Me,
15:07 I will be there," right?
15:08 That's right.
15:10 So I remember like, sitting there in my bed
15:13 and just crying out to God says, "Lord, help me.
15:15 You know, I'm scared, you know, and it's hard to explain how...
15:19 I just knew the greatest peace came over me
15:23 and it just felt like God just sort of touched me
15:25 with His hand, was right there beside me.
15:27 He was just like, "Don't worry about it, Robert."
15:29 And that was such a pivotal moment for me,
15:32 you know, that though I had turned my back on God,
15:36 God didn't turn His back on me.
15:37 That's right. Wow, that's right.
15:39 And though they had the surgery,
15:41 my football career sort of went down the drain as they say.
15:44 I still went to a community college
15:46 in Kansas, it didn't work out.
15:48 But unfortunately, after that, I then got into music,
15:54 you know, clearly searching for something, right?
15:56 Right, fill that void.
15:57 Football and now music
15:59 and I got deep into heavy metal.
16:00 And then I began to be a drummer
16:04 in a heavy metal band.
16:05 So I was still running, still running away.
16:07 Drummer.
16:08 Wow, running from one field to the next.
16:10 Yeah. Yes.
16:11 So I was like, if I can't make it here and here,
16:13 then maybe as a musician I'll then make it there.
16:16 Wow! Yeah.
16:17 And all that time I like the way he said that.
16:19 And all that time the Lord was saying, Robert, I mean...
16:22 He's working on you.
16:24 He's working on you, blocking your path.
16:25 You know, as in the Book of Hosea
16:27 it says, "You will pursue your loves
16:28 the things you love in life, but you'll not overtake them."
16:30 Yes.
16:32 And so if the Lord saw He had a plan for your life.
16:34 And it's unfortunate, you know,
16:35 that you have to lose your spleen.
16:38 But that was the roadblock to a road
16:41 that the Lord didn't want you on.
16:43 Yep. Exactly.
16:44 So you lose things in this life.
16:46 Who is it that I forgot the person?
16:49 Very well.
16:50 Oh, my good friend, Neville Peters.
16:52 You know, he's a musician on 3ABN, he said,
16:54 "He believes that the Lord allowed him to lose his sight
16:56 to gain his salvation."
16:58 Wow!
16:59 And it's amazing what we lose in life here
17:01 that we gain on a larger scale.
17:02 The blessings of this life
17:04 and, but since so now you're in the rock world.
17:06 Yeah.
17:07 And you're still thinking, man, what happened there?
17:11 Well, I guess what devastates a band
17:13 is when your lead guitarist gets married
17:15 and has children that
17:17 sort of puts a stop to it, you know?
17:19 Yeah.
17:20 So, again, God intervening there looking back on that,
17:24 and just came to a point in life
17:26 where I was just like a leaf blowing in the wind,
17:29 you know, not knowing what to do anymore.
17:32 Then take my studies very, very seriously.
17:35 You know, at school,
17:36 I went to classes just so I could play,
17:38 you know, didn't study really, anyway.
17:40 So I'm there and then finally, as I'm still living at home,
17:46 I just began to go to community college,
17:48 maybe thought about being a physical therapist.
17:51 So that's what I began to pursue.
17:53 Still away from church and I got a degree
17:55 in Biomedical Science, there in Tampa,
17:58 University of South Florida.
18:00 And working at Florida hospital,
18:01 which is now AdventHealth.
18:03 AdventHealth, yeah.
18:04 But around that time a pivotal thing happened.
18:06 And I was in my room, one Sabbath,
18:10 and I was watching college football.
18:13 And, you know, not an audible voice,
18:15 but God making it very clear to say,
18:18 "Turn off the TV. Turn off the TV."
18:21 So, you know, I turn off the TV and I'm lying in bed,
18:23 they are looking up at the ceiling.
18:25 And again, just a great impression to say,
18:28 "Get up, get dressed and go to church."
18:31 Wow!
18:32 Just out of blue, you know?
18:34 So, you know, a moment my life where, you know,
18:38 I know God's sort of speaking to me,
18:39 and I get up, I get dressed.
18:41 And parents were like, "Where are you going?"
18:43 Going to church. Going to church?
18:45 You know, and then I couldn't find the church.
18:47 Hmm.
18:48 And I remember turning around, and I said to God,
18:51 "If this was You telling me to go to church,
18:54 then You gonna have to help me find a church."
18:55 And I was going home
18:57 and out of the corner of my eye,
18:58 I spot the road that I missed.
19:00 I just drove by it initially, came back,
19:02 I spot it and I found the church.
19:05 And God just began to work in my heart
19:07 since then, and yeah.
19:09 Things began to change, my passions and desires,
19:12 getting involved in church.
19:14 And I remember just key young people in my life
19:18 that were real role models for me
19:21 that you could be young and on fire for Jesus.
19:25 That's right.
19:26 And just allow God to use you and God just began
19:29 to change my passions.
19:31 Hmm. Wow!
19:32 So what about your parents?
19:33 What did they think about you?
19:35 Yeah, they were a little thrown off by it.
19:37 But the awesome thing is, is that at that time,
19:40 nobody was going to church.
19:42 Yeah.
19:43 But, we, the church that I attended there
19:46 in Tampa called Carrollwood.
19:49 In our prayer meeting, we began to pray for my family
19:51 and it took three years praying.
19:54 Just a little group. Yes.
19:56 And eventually, praise God today that my parents now
19:59 are strong Christian Seventh-day Adventists
20:01 and they're in church today.
20:04 My oldest sister, Ruth, began to go to church.
20:07 She sings very well,
20:09 and I have another sister Eunice.
20:11 But, God, you know, never stops working
20:14 in our hearts, He never stopped calling us,
20:16 He's always there, and God is incredible.
20:19 Wow!
20:20 How did you get this desire to speak?
20:22 Yeah. Well, I'm very shy.
20:25 I'm an introvert by nature. Yeah.
20:27 And my greatest fear is to preach up front,
20:29 so God has a sense of humor.
20:32 So I remember that I was a deacon.
20:34 And you can sort of see how God is leading.
20:36 Right.
20:37 And I knew, I knew that He was gonna lead me
20:39 to be an elder, you know, I knew it.
20:40 Because if you're an elder, you have to preach
20:41 at least it was there.
20:43 And the pastor at the time was Rodney Ortiz,
20:45 a great friend of ours.
20:46 And, I knew we were there and one of our elders
20:52 either had moved all the way and here they come,
20:54 "Robert, do you want to be elder?"
20:56 And I was like, "Mm-mm."
20:58 You said no.
20:59 Well, I was thinking that in my heart, like,
21:00 "No, no, no."
21:02 That means I have to preach, right?
21:03 But you know, I knew God was calling me there.
21:05 So I said, "All right, surrendered."
21:07 And then I preached my first sermon,
21:09 it was actually on the Sabbath.
21:11 And when I preached,
21:13 I was sitting there and just shaking,
21:16 but when I got up there and just prayed, said,
21:18 "Lord, this is about You and not me, for Your glory."
21:22 And it was a transformation just like, again,
21:25 a peace came over me.
21:26 And afterwards, everybody kept saying,
21:29 "You should be a pastor, you should go into ministry,
21:31 you should..."
21:33 You know, and then God just began
21:36 to put it in my heart that He was calling me
21:39 to be a pastor to go into ministry.
21:41 Now the picture we have of you standing at the pulpit,
21:43 is that, that sermon you're talking about?
21:45 No. That one there is...
21:47 This one here was the first time
21:49 that actually I was not giving a sermon.
21:52 I was giving a little testimony.
21:53 I was canvassing here,
21:55 right when I was coming back into church.
21:56 You know, colporteuring is an amazing thing
21:59 in front lines.
22:00 And anyway, so in that one there
22:02 I was just giving a little testimony
22:04 what happened to me while I was canvassing,
22:06 but it wasn't my first sermon yet.
22:07 Okay.
22:09 Yeah. Yeah.
22:10 But that was my first public sort of getting up front there,
22:14 you know, sort of nervous just talking about that there.
22:17 Just a complete transformation, you know,
22:20 and God has that power to transform.
22:22 Yes, He does. Wow!
22:23 And meanwhile we were you?
22:25 Yeah.
22:27 I was at Southern Adventist University.
22:31 Okay.
22:33 Yeah, he came to the States in 2006
22:37 and I did colporteuring for one year.
22:40 And then I came to Southern in 2007.
22:43 Mm-hmm.
22:45 Yeah, and working on my graduate studies
22:49 to be a school counselor.
22:50 Okay. And I graduated in 2010.
22:53 So was a lot of miracles there for another time,
22:56 but how God allow me to be there
23:00 and getting ready.
23:01 Good.
23:02 And at that time you hadn't met yet
23:04 when you were colporteuring, you hadn't met yet?
23:05 No. Yeah. Yeah.
23:07 So now transition to the...
23:11 Okay, when you met were you yet in ministry?
23:14 No, I was studying theology at Southern.
23:17 And you know, because I had a previous degree,
23:20 all my classes were just religious anyway.
23:23 So then I saw her again there at the gym right
23:28 and like I said, then she wouldn't leave me
23:31 alone after that, you know, so.
23:32 Okay, we're gonna have to ask her in a bit.
23:34 Yeah, yeah. No, no.
23:35 Yeah.
23:37 And then we just kept talking and again leading,
23:39 and again, prayer, you know, we understood
23:41 I was 30 at the time,
23:44 so I knew that if this was the woman God had for me,
23:50 who's going to open up doors make it very clear.
23:53 And He did, just made it very clear
23:54 that God had chosen this woman for me.
23:56 Wow!
23:58 So when you got together where you new in the ministry?
24:00 I mean, conversion, was it...
24:03 Yeah, I got re-baptized in 2008 and I went to Southern in '09.
24:09 Ah!
24:11 Okay. Yeah.
24:12 So yeah, I mean,
24:13 she got baptized when she was 15.
24:16 So she had sort of been settled.
24:17 Yes.
24:19 And I was just sort of getting in there
24:20 and God was...
24:23 I mean, really God works when you think about it
24:26 and you go back in life,
24:28 how God was preparing me to be a helper
24:32 for him and for ministry.
24:35 Right. I do believe so.
24:36 And God, God really calls you with a purpose.
24:40 And since I came and I became a Christian
24:44 and I accepted Jesus,
24:46 I did it with all my heart and I was 20
24:50 and I was already the prayer ministry coordinator
24:52 on my 300 members church there in Columbia.
24:57 So I was maybe the youngest in the board.
25:00 And then I learned a lot of things there
25:04 as a prayer ministry coordinator.
25:06 And the first thing that I learned
25:08 is to trust in the Lord.
25:11 You are trusting Him with all your heart,
25:14 and He will give you the desires of your heart.
25:17 That's right. Does it.
25:18 You trust 'cause you have to trust Him,
25:20 and that's what we have been doing.
25:24 So God taught me all the way that prayer and trusting Him,
25:30 His promises, reading the Bible,
25:32 that is the key.
25:34 That's right. It's the key.
25:35 Then you do the work for God, no matter what it is,
25:38 we are to pray that God will do it through you,
25:42 the way how He wanted, and the vision and the mission
25:46 that God has for you, for that specific ministry,
25:50 or for that specific purpose, or for your life,
25:53 or for the church.
25:54 Right.
25:55 Whatever it is, yeah, the prayer does,
25:57 so I think the God was teaching me
26:00 all that through the years
26:01 and I learned to trust Him personally,
26:04 that's why I was able to go to Southern
26:10 without even having any loans, but that's another story there,
26:12 but and here I am when I met him,
26:16 and I saw him online
26:18 on the Seventh-day Adventist website
26:21 and he said, "I was going to be a physical therapist."
26:25 And I thought, "Well, physical therapist,
26:26 that sounds like a good future for me too," you know, I mean.
26:29 Yeah.
26:30 But isn't it amazing how God that did it
26:33 and I thought that he was someone
26:37 that loves Jesus.
26:38 I never thought that he was gonna tell me later
26:40 or you know, "I'm here at Southern
26:43 to pursue theology."
26:46 And I said, "I thought that
26:47 you were gonna do physical therapy."
26:49 I was not disappointed.
26:50 I just thought God really is doing something here
26:54 and He's gonna keep doing it.
26:56 And you know, knowing...
26:57 And we're going to talk about now we're going to dive
26:59 into the topic here.
27:00 Knowing what your background is,
27:02 and knowing how important prayer is to him,
27:05 the Lord said, "Wait a minute."
27:06 Put it together.
27:08 Isn't it amazing? Yeah.
27:09 We look back at our lives and we see how God,
27:10 you know, God orchestrates things.
27:12 Put you both together.
27:13 Yeah. Yeah.
27:15 Yeah, prayer coordinator and...
27:16 Yeah, for a purpose. Yes.
27:17 And a pastor who would not need a prayer coordinator
27:20 who believes in prayer?
27:21 Yes. Absolutely.
27:23 And to not just have a prayer coordinator
27:24 but that prayer coordinator be your wife.
27:26 Yes. Amen.
27:27 So dive into this now because we talked about,
27:29 we're talking about united prayer in evangelism.
27:32 Let's dive into that topic, because now,
27:34 you saw the results of how powerful prayer is
27:37 not just individually as you talked about,
27:39 but unitedly?
27:40 Sure.
27:42 Well, you know, I think we can agree
27:44 and you don't even have to be a religious figure
27:46 to understand that we're living in really unusual
27:49 and pretentious times, you know?
27:51 I mean, we're living in the last days.
27:53 And it's not that I think so is that I know so.
27:55 Amen. Amen.
27:56 You know, the Bible is clear in prophecy about
27:58 what days we're living in.
28:00 We're seeing it all around us in every aspect,
28:02 religiously and there's everything, okay?
28:06 So, you know, we believe that evangelism
28:09 and prophetic meetings
28:10 and getting the Three Angels Messages
28:12 to the world, which is needed is not dead.
28:16 We have an amazing message,
28:18 Christ is the center of that message.
28:21 But I believe the world is definitely getting right
28:23 for the harvest that Jesus said.
28:24 I believe Christ is soon to come.
28:26 Yes.
28:27 And we began to be very convicted
28:29 and God began to work and orchestrate that
28:32 we were preparing meetings in Decatur,
28:36 and, you know, I wanted God to show the members that,
28:41 you know, meetings, evangelism still works.
28:43 That's right.
28:45 You know, show them Lord, right?
28:46 So we were in Portugal and visiting my family
28:50 and I came across a book
28:54 that was just a game changer
28:58 as they say and it was titled
29:01 "Steps To Personal Revival:
29:02 Being filled with the Holy Spirit,"
29:04 and because I went to sort of refresh my Portuguese,
29:07 I got it in Portuguese, and in English.
29:09 So I was going to sort of do.
29:11 So anyway, we got back to the States
29:12 and not beknownst to me,
29:14 she began to also read some things
29:19 in some of the Adventist magazines
29:21 that are sent to her home,
29:23 and also talking about the same topic.
29:24 Wow!
29:26 And it came across and it was talking about...
29:27 And referring to the book.
29:28 Referring to the book, and we read the book,
29:31 and God just made it very, very clear
29:34 that it's His work to do.
29:36 That's right.
29:38 And the power of the Holy Spirit,
29:42 and coming together as a people to unite in prayer,
29:46 and surrendering to the spirit to begin to work,
29:48 not just in the churches, members' hearts,
29:50 but in the community
29:53 and that's where God was convicting us.
29:54 And I just like to read some quotes here
29:56 from the Spirit of Prophecy
29:58 that really began to touch us as well.
30:01 And this is from Gospel Workers,
30:03 page 259.
30:04 And she says, "The greatest victories
30:06 gained for the cause of God
30:08 are not the result of labored argument,
30:11 ample facilities, wide influence,
30:14 or abundance of means."
30:15 So praise the Lord.
30:17 You don't have to have the best of facilities
30:18 and the best of means, for God to do His work.
30:21 She continues, then she says,
30:23 "They are gained in the audience chamber
30:26 with God, when with earnest,
30:28 agonizing faith men lay hold upon the mighty arm of power."
30:32 Wow! That's right.
30:34 Yeah.
30:35 And then she gives us the definition
30:36 of who has that power.
30:38 And she gives it to us in Testimonies for the Church,
30:40 volume 8, page 22.
30:41 She says, "Why do we not hunger
30:43 and thirst for the gift of the spirit,
30:46 since this is the means
30:48 by which we are to receive power?"
30:50 That's right. So there it is, right?
30:53 Who has the power?
30:55 God has the power. That's right.
30:57 And the spirit, okay, and it's an amazing
31:00 how the spirit has been attacked today...
31:02 Oh!
31:04 You know, by a wild ride
31:05 the Godhead is and the spirit is,
31:08 because the enemy knows
31:09 that if God's people begin to surrender
31:11 and being led by the Spirit of God,
31:14 amazing things will begin to happen.
31:16 And then she closes that quote here to say,
31:18 "Why do we not talk of it, pray for it,
31:20 and preach concerning it?"
31:22 And then a well known verse saying that
31:26 we might know Selected Messages Book,
31:28 volume 1, page 121.
31:30 "Revival of true godliness among us is the greatest
31:34 and most urgent of all our needs.
31:37 To seek this should be our first work."
31:39 That's right. Yeah.
31:41 So these quotes here, by the Spirit of Prophecy,
31:45 and God impressing us and of course,
31:47 knowing what the Bible is teaching
31:49 began to lead us to a path that we knew God was leading us
31:53 with united prayer, and the focus on the spirit.
31:57 Very good quote. Do you want to add something?
31:59 So this is how it was then.
32:01 So once we found the book and we read it.
32:06 And it is amazing.
32:07 I am praying, "Lord, there many programs,
32:10 prayer programs, ideas that we can do,
32:15 but show me what this church at this moment
32:18 needs the most what we need to do."
32:21 And when I was reading that magazine,
32:24 in a ministry magazine and I read the article about
32:28 the Holy Spirit and how God is working
32:31 and this pastor is referring to the book,
32:34 and I go online and see the picture and I said,
32:38 "I have seen this book, maybe here at home somewhere."
32:41 Well, it came to happen we came from the Portugal
32:44 a few weeks before that, and I go to his office,
32:48 and I started looking around,
32:50 I think I have seen this book and I found it.
32:53 And I said, "Well, this is not gonna be a coincidence."
32:55 It just brought my attention.
32:57 And now I get the book I start reading it
33:00 and I said, "I think that this is God want us
33:03 to get into this to learn about this
33:05 and the whole church."
33:06 I go to church that prayer meeting Wednesday night,
33:11 and when I go through the door...
33:13 Oh, that was Saturday morning and one of my prayer warriors,
33:17 as they call it, we are praying
33:20 before the service, before the Sabbath school.
33:24 And she's there at the door saying, "Hello."
33:26 And I said, "You know, this week,
33:28 I think that God has shown me
33:30 what we're to do with the whole congregation.
33:32 Let's get together in united prayer
33:34 and let's read this book."
33:36 She said, "Hold on, this week," she said.
33:40 That's one of my prayer warriors at church.
33:42 This week I was talking to my friend,
33:45 pastor such and such on the phone.
33:47 And he told me about a book, and about the Holy Spirit,
33:51 and about the Revival.
33:52 And I said, "What is the name of the book?"
33:54 And she said, "I don't remember I'll call you later.
33:56 And I'll let you know what book it is,"
33:58 because I was going to tell you about the book.
33:59 Right.
34:01 So she calls me later at 5 o'clock in the afternoon
34:03 and she said, "The name of the book is,
34:05 "Steps To Personal Revival."
34:08 And he is referring to this book highly
34:11 and he want us to read it.
34:13 So it was three times God is saying,
34:15 "Let's read it together" and we did.
34:18 And let me show the copy of the book on the screen
34:20 so that those who are viewing the program could see
34:23 what book you're referring to.
34:25 This book was read, our people read this book last year.
34:29 Yeah, and "Steps To Personal Revival:
34:32 Being filled with the Holy Spirit."
34:34 Not just asking for the Holy Spirit
34:36 to just help you make decisions.
34:39 Because the phrase when you read the Bible,
34:41 it didn't say the Holy Spirit was working on them,
34:44 it says, and they were filled.
34:45 Filled.
34:46 And the place where they were praying was shaken.
34:49 Yes.
34:50 And so when being filled with the spirit
34:53 is different than tapping into the spirit
34:55 like going to get a pint of gasoline,
34:58 or a quart of gasoline, or a gallon of gasoline.
35:01 Absolutely.
35:02 He says, "Why do you keep stopping at the gas station?
35:04 Why don't you just fill up your car?"
35:06 And if we pray for the infilling
35:07 of the Spirit of God, we just talked about this,
35:09 Honey, just yesterday. Yeah.
35:11 We said, "We need to get our church together
35:14 and pray earnestly for what we're planning,"
35:17 so that we won't go and...
35:20 I think you heard me say that, it's not by might nor by power.
35:23 Zachariah 4, but by my spirit.
35:25 And the spirit of God, as Paul says,
35:28 "He's able to do exceedingly,
35:30 abundantly above all that we ask or think,
35:32 according to the power that is at work in us."
35:35 Yes.
35:36 And this is what you're talking about.
35:37 Yeah, absolutely, Pastor.
35:39 You bring such a good point, you know,
35:40 and I'd like to read just what God says there in Luke
35:43 in the Bible and his emphasis and desire for His people,
35:48 to ask to be filled with the spirit
35:50 on a daily basis, a daily baptism of the spirit.
35:53 Yes.
35:54 Because usually we think that, oh, "I was baptized,
35:55 I was filed with the spirit."
35:57 But a daily surrendering to be Lord,
35:59 I need to be baptized with the spirit
36:00 of fresh today every day.
36:02 Hmm. Yes.
36:03 And so in Luke Chapter 11, in Luke's account here,
36:08 he begins to give us the model of a prayer,
36:11 the Lord's Prayer.
36:12 And then he gives us sort of a parable about a man
36:15 who goes to someone's house at midnight and is wanting.
36:18 Okay. Yeah, seeking, seeking.
36:19 And then it says there that because he persistently asked,
36:23 I'm going to give you the bread, right?
36:25 Yes.
36:26 And then in verses 9-13,
36:30 we see here that 10 times not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
36:34 but 10 times Jesus makes it very clear
36:38 in the urgency here that God's people need to ask
36:43 and desire the spirit.
36:45 So I'm gonna read.
36:46 It says in verse 9, it says, "So I say to you, ask
36:49 and it will be given to you, Seek,"
36:50 there's an action there, "and you will find, knock,"
36:53 that's another action, "and it will be opened to you."
36:56 This is a promise here. Yes.
36:58 "For everyone who asks receives and he who seeks finds,
37:01 and to him who knocks, it will be opened."
37:04 Verse 11."
37:05 If a son asks for bread from any father among you,
37:08 will he give him a stone?
37:10 Or if he asks for a fish,
37:12 will he give him a serpent instead of a fish?
37:15 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
37:19 If you then, being evil,
37:21 knowing how to give good gifts to your children,
37:23 how much more will your Heavenly Father
37:25 give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?
37:28 Ask. Ask.
37:30 Ask, ask, seek, knock. Yes.
37:33 So 10 times, 6 times asking, 2 times knocking,
37:37 which is an action word, and then 2 times again seeking
37:40 another action word there.
37:42 God is urging His people that please,
37:46 because I mean, Mrs. White says
37:47 that the Spirit of God is the greatest gift
37:49 He could have bestowed upon His people.
37:50 That's right.
37:52 But we have to go and desire to be filled by it.
37:53 That's right. So God is urging His people.
37:57 I want to bestow to you the power
37:59 and my greatest gift, but I need you to come.
38:02 And the amazing thing is in Revelation, it says that,
38:04 "He stands at the door and knocks."
38:06 But the thing is that nobody knocks from the inside,
38:09 they knock from the outside.
38:10 That's right. Right?
38:12 So what God is saying is, is that I'm on the outside.
38:14 Yes, knocking. Right?
38:16 And here's the Laodicean Church.
38:18 Well, I thought He was inside, hmm, I'm on the outside,
38:21 I want to come in.
38:22 And Jesus makes it very clear
38:23 that He comes in through the spirit,
38:25 He says in the Book of John, I believe.
38:26 They say, "The spirit is to be with you and in you."
38:29 He wants it, right? That's right.
38:31 So here God is urging His people that
38:34 and this is what God's convicting us that,
38:36 "Man, we need to understand that
38:38 on a daily, daily, daily process
38:42 to be refilled with the Holy Spirit,
38:44 be baptized the fresh baptized,"
38:46 because we need it every day.
38:48 Yes. That's right.
38:49 And Jesus was our example of that.
38:51 That's right. That's right.
38:52 Because He went to the Father, and if He needs it,
38:55 how much more that God's people needed that.
38:56 Invest this day on daily prayer.
38:58 That's right.
38:59 And you can pray at home and let's please do it,
39:01 let's pray and let's ask God for the Holy Spirit.
39:05 But there is something about getting together,
39:07 united prayer.
39:09 There is not united church, if there is no united prayer.
39:13 That's right.
39:14 That's why when conflicts come, we just don't know what to do
39:18 and our carnal flesh just come out and we fight.
39:23 But if we are filled with the Holy Spirit,
39:26 and we get together, and God is working in us,
39:29 even we're gonna see each other differently.
39:31 That's right.
39:32 So we were praying every Sabbath morning
39:36 before Sabbath school, the people come
39:39 and we get together and pray and before the meetings
39:43 that was months before even the evangelistic meeting comes.
39:47 And after the book was over,
39:50 the six weeks we also will get together
39:53 every week besides Saturday morning
39:56 also before Bible study in the mid-week.
39:59 And then we will come together,
40:01 pray again, talk about the book and pray united.
40:04 And yes, let's pray about each other's needs,
40:08 material stance,
40:09 but everybody knew there that we were praying
40:11 this for spiritual blessings, for focus,
40:15 because you can never go wrong with that.
40:17 Pray about it, God will answer.
40:18 Right.
40:20 That Jesus said, pray and it will be done to you.
40:22 So knock and you will receive.
40:25 So we're going to pray together
40:26 and then when we were done with this book,
40:30 then he came to 40 days of prayer and devotions
40:33 with Pastor Dennis Smith and Series,
40:36 and we did book number one,
40:38 it's about the Holy Spirit as well.
40:40 And we got more,
40:43 maybe almost half of the church involved in this,
40:47 all the leaders who were, you know,
40:48 we wanted the leaders and they are reading the book
40:53 and we're getting together again, every week,
40:57 every Saturday morning and we are praying about
41:01 the Holy Spirit in us and revival, revival.
41:04 So the God can see in us and they can do
41:08 what He needs to do in us before even God can bring
41:11 new people to the church.
41:12 God will never gonna bring anyone in an unhealthy church.
41:16 We have to be healthy, we need to be ready
41:18 to receive those that God loves.
41:21 So God needs to work in us get ready,
41:23 not only Pastor Meneses is getting ready
41:25 for the sermons to preach, but we're praying.
41:29 And I appreciate those that were so faithful.
41:32 You know, those that are faithful
41:34 to come and pray.
41:35 But we've more, more people coming
41:38 besides those that regularly came
41:41 and this is many things happened
41:44 and the book, Pastor Dennis Smith's book,
41:48 they said, "Choose five people you're going to pray
41:52 for before the meetings."
41:54 So everybody chooses five person or more
41:57 and we're praying.
41:58 So we get together.
42:00 you're praying for 40 days for them,
42:02 and then we get together and I remember that day,
42:05 you know, everybody's praying about neighbors,
42:08 my family members, I wanted to come to the meetings,
42:10 you know, everybody is getting into that.
42:13 You know, tune with, let's get ready.
42:16 And one of the members she said in that night I remember,
42:21 she said by name, "I am praying for this family.
42:25 They haven't come to church for years
42:28 and I want them to come back."
42:30 But, you know, they are not here anymore,
42:33 let's pray for them.
42:35 And we all prayed for that night.
42:37 I thought very special prayer for that family.
42:40 I didn't know them because that was a family
42:43 that used to come to church many years ago.
42:46 And this family, she called the family later on to say
42:50 they got their flyer in the mail
42:53 for go to the meetings.
42:54 And they did and they said,
42:56 "Yeah, we're making plans on going,
42:58 you know, but we kept praying."
43:01 And they came the first night
43:04 and they came almost every night, right?
43:06 Amen.
43:08 They came every night and tell them what happened?
43:10 Yeah. I mean, just...
43:12 They even...
43:14 I mean, it's a family of five, so, you know, the kids came,
43:20 teenagers, young,
43:22 and, you know, the spirit,
43:27 I mean, they knew the spirit was...
43:29 I mean, you can just tell that the spirit
43:30 had gripped their hearts.
43:32 And, you know, at the end of it, as I came,
43:35 not only the parents want to be baptized,
43:37 all the children want to be baptized.
43:39 Amen.
43:40 So you know going over it
43:42 and them desiring to be baptized
43:45 and recommit themselves to Jesus,
43:48 and you know, I'm happy for all,
43:50 I don't care how old you are,
43:51 praise the Lord older life, young.
43:53 But again, I just love to see
43:56 the young people on fire for Jesus.
43:57 Amen. That's right.
43:59 You know, because Satan wants them
44:00 and God wants them.
44:02 That's right. There's only two ways to go.
44:04 And God began to bless not only in their lives,
44:06 but in other people, you know, and I want to bring up
44:09 in regards to united being one
44:11 because there's a counterfeit unity happening
44:13 in the world today.
44:15 That's right.
44:16 So today the world is trying to come together
44:19 in this counterfeit unity.
44:22 Here is God trying to bring true unity to His people,
44:25 you know.
44:27 And of course, Satan counterfeits what is real.
44:30 So, you know, today, the counterfeit is regardless
44:34 of what you believe, regardless of doctrine,
44:37 you just sort of think whatever you want to think,
44:38 and regardless of allowing sanctification
44:42 of God to do that work in your life
44:44 though the Holy Spirit,
44:46 you can sort of live the way you want
44:47 and believe what you want, we sort of come together
44:49 and in love in the name of Jesus, right?
44:51 That's true. Yeah, counterfeit.
44:53 It might sound good and it might taste good
44:56 and all that stuff, but truth and there's deception.
44:58 Yep.
44:59 So here's God and true unity what I see in the Bible is,
45:05 the Bible says, "Can two walk together unless they agree?"
45:08 No, they cannot. They cannot, right?
45:10 So, being one in regards to what the Bible teaches,
45:14 and then the Bible says, that being allowing God
45:18 to sanctify you work in your life
45:21 set us His people apart.
45:23 You know, Jesus said very clearly,
45:24 "We are to be in the world, but not of the world."
45:26 Jesus says, right?
45:28 So here's God, God's people true unity walking together
45:33 in light of the Bible truth,
45:34 allowing the spirit to change them
45:36 and sanctify them and being together, united,
45:41 that's true biblical unity.
45:43 And here is Satan and his counterfeit
45:44 again regardless what you believe,
45:46 or how you live, just come together
45:47 and all that.
45:49 So here's God, in His last days
45:51 trying to call His people to true unity,
45:53 as Satan is trying to get the world into false unity.
45:57 But, you know, it's amazing that
45:58 you mentioned that false unity, because he's deceased
46:01 now young man by the name of Tony Palmer.
46:03 He was a voice for the evangelical Catholic merging.
46:06 That's right.
46:08 He said, "Forget about all your doctrine,
46:09 God will sort it out if you get up there.
46:11 That's not true. That's right.
46:13 That is one of the largest untruth,
46:15 I use the word untruths.
46:17 Mama used to say don't say the word lie, it's so hard.
46:20 But that was not true, God is misrepresented
46:22 when He says when Christian people say,
46:25 "It doesn't matter what you believe."
46:26 That's right.
46:27 Because how can two walk together unless they agree?
46:29 That's right.
46:30 And if the blind are leading the blind,
46:32 both will fall into the pit.
46:33 It doesn't matter what the direction
46:34 of your life is, of course.
46:36 It doesn't matter where the blind person
46:37 is leading the other blind person of course.
46:39 That's right.
46:40 And so I'm thankful that you brought this,
46:42 this is very timely and we'll talk about afterwards
46:44 why this is so timely.
46:45 Mm-hmm.
46:46 But it's true the church needs
46:48 a revival in the word primitive God,
46:50 it doesn't means sticks, and stones, and wood,
46:52 and rolling square bricks.
46:55 It means get back to what happened
46:57 on the Day of Pentecost.
46:59 Yes.
47:00 Because the church today is filled with methods.
47:02 Absolutely.
47:03 And, Pastor, there's been many times
47:05 where I've coming, you know, was walked in
47:08 either the church service Sabbath morning
47:10 or Wednesday before the study,
47:12 and he said, "Man, this looks like Acts."
47:16 I mean, this is...
47:17 Here God's people together, surrendering Lord,
47:20 we need the spirit, is to Your spirit,
47:23 to Your power, you know, all have sinned,
47:25 all have fallen short,
47:27 but we just desired to be used by you
47:30 as co-laborers, you know, and God will bless that,
47:33 God will be faithful to that.
47:35 And I just want to refer to maybe just one more here
47:37 in Manuscript Releases, volume 7, page 267.
47:41 She says very clearly, "It is this baptism
47:45 of the Holy Spirit that the churches need today."
47:48 That's right. Right.
47:51 So, you know, people say, "Oh, well, this doesn't work,
47:54 or we need this
47:55 and we need that and everything."
47:56 Evangelism doesn't work.
47:58 Evangelism doesn't work or whatever.
48:00 But she says what we need...
48:02 She didn't say we need money, which money is good,
48:04 nothing wrong.
48:05 We need money to do evangelism, but we need again,
48:08 it's not just money and what we need
48:10 is the Spirit of God in His people's hearts,
48:14 for them to surrender, say, "Lord, it's up to you.
48:17 I just want to be used by God," you know.
48:19 Just like make yourself available.
48:20 Yeah, and I like to say that truth might bring them in,
48:22 but love will keep them in.
48:24 That's right. I like that.
48:25 So as God brings them into the church,
48:28 I make it very clear that we have to love the people
48:32 and be patient with them.
48:33 I mean, Mrs. White says that Christ mingled with them
48:36 and had empathy with them.
48:37 Christ method alone, right?
48:39 So I mean, love the people, be patient with them,
48:42 they're just learning and guiding, but we lead them,
48:45 we lead them to God's standards,
48:47 we never lower God's standards.
48:48 God's standards never to be lowered.
48:49 That's right.
48:51 But we're accepting the way that they are,
48:52 but God loves them enough that
48:54 they keep them the way that they are.
48:55 Therefore, we lead them to what God desires for them
48:57 in their life and we're patient with it.
48:59 So letting and as my wife said,
49:01 as the spirit works in the hearts,
49:02 we begin to see people differently
49:04 and maybe to be more patient where we weren't patient,
49:07 to be more accepting where we weren't.
49:09 And you know, I like to say that,
49:12 you know, if 100 people
49:13 come into the meetings, praise the Lord.
49:15 But a year later if one is left that's not good, right?
49:18 That's right.
49:19 So my desire is Lord bring them in
49:21 and dear God please keep them in to be become solid
49:26 Seventh-day Adventist Christians
49:28 who love God with all their heart
49:29 and want to be used by God.
49:30 And that's I believe the ultimate plan
49:32 for any evangelism.
49:33 Yeah, you know, truth will wake them up.
49:34 Yes. Love will light them up.
49:36 The Holy Spirit will fill them up.
49:38 I feel like that.
49:39 And so we have to make sure that none of those is left out
49:41 and so many people that have evangelism
49:43 the things that they do.
49:44 I see you want to say something.
49:46 Oh, I was gonna say is that it changes lives,
49:50 prayer and the Holy Spirit.
49:52 Sometimes, we are thinking,
49:53 if a church will be like this or we complain if, if.
49:59 The if is what if we all will be filled daily
50:04 with the Holy Ghost?
50:05 What if that's my if?
50:07 So the Lord will do with all He does as with apostles.
50:11 So He's doing it.
50:12 I think that the Lord is still working.
50:14 He's working in us, He's working in the church,
50:16 and some of the members really can unite
50:20 the prayer ministry coordinator and she said,
50:22 "Elida, thank you for putting this together.
50:25 And thank you that you brought us together.
50:27 He has changed me."
50:29 Some of them said, "He has made me
50:30 more comfortable to pray with people."
50:33 Some other said, "He makes me to think about other needs
50:37 instead of just my own problems."
50:40 You know, yes, get together and pray for your problems,
50:43 but let's get together
50:44 and pray for the spiritual blessings.
50:47 Then, even the problems will just relinquishing.
50:49 And I want to show this last picture
50:51 of the meetings you held, just before the program is done
50:53 because we're winding up here.
50:55 We didn't want to put this in a little earlier.
50:57 The picture of the meetings that you held at the hotel.
50:59 Yeah.
51:00 If you bring that up with you...
51:02 Sure Let the audience see that.
51:03 Last night you had some something like,
51:05 we're completely with, is that, is to go to the people.
51:08 That's right.
51:09 And this was at a hotel there
51:12 and because a lot of people are more comfortable at times
51:14 coming to a neutral location there,
51:16 and I found that in the south, that's where the way to go.
51:19 Right. That's the way to go.
51:20 So yeah, you know, and God blessed
51:22 and the meetings went well, God really blessed our efforts.
51:28 And we had 10 baptisms
51:32 and some other still coming there.
51:33 That's right.
51:35 But we also had prayer partners that was mentioned there
51:37 and people calling each other up
51:39 and praying with each other.
51:41 Because a lot of times, we go to church
51:42 and we see them once a week
51:44 and we don't see them for a whole week.
51:45 You know, last time I checked in the Bible,
51:48 it was a community, they broke bread daily
51:51 what the Bible says, but being in communion
51:53 with your fellow brother and sister in church,
51:54 it's your family
51:56 and having prayer partners in our prayers
51:58 and it won't stop now, it's continues,
52:00 it continues, it continues.
52:01 That's right, and I want to make sure
52:03 the information is available.
52:04 If we bring it up on the screen here
52:06 for RobertMeneses
52:08 R- O-B-E-R-T M-E-N-E-S-E-S 80
52:14 @gmail.com.
52:17 You want to get in touch with them.
52:18 We'll give that address again
52:19 on the other side of the newsbreak.
52:21 But you know, this is what the church
52:22 is in need of, this is what your family needs.
52:24 If your life is falling apart and you don't even
52:26 have a church, we're going to come back
52:28 on the other side of the newsbreak
52:30 and give you another opportunity.
52:31 But prayer is where it begins.
52:33 Without prayer there is no power.
52:36 On the other side of the news break,
52:37 we'll give you a few closing thoughts.
52:39 Don't go away, we'll be right back.


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