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00:02 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:19 Removing pain 00:24 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:35 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:46 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:08 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:11 I'm Jason Bradley, and I'm so glad that 01:14 you could join us as we're going to be 01:16 getting an HHK Ministry Update, 01:19 but before I introduce our guests today, 01:24 I'd like to read a scripture to you 01:25 and it comes from 1 Corinthians 10:31, 01:30 and it says, "Therefore, whether you eat or drink, 01:32 or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God." 01:37 Today, we will be talking 01:38 with Heidi Tompkins and Ivan Raj. 01:42 Welcome to the program. 01:43 Thank you. Thank you. 01:45 Yes, you know, I've seen you guys at ASI. 01:48 I've seen you at GYC. 01:49 I've seen you on 3ABN before, 01:52 but I haven't had the chance to interview you yet. 01:55 Yeah, it's a pleasure. 01:57 This is gonna be interesting. 01:58 So what's HHK stands for? Heidi's Health Kitchen. 02:03 Okay, and you're the co-founder, right? 02:04 A lot of people say Heidi's Kitchen, 02:06 but we have to remember the health messages in there, 02:08 it's Heidi's Health Kitchen. 02:09 Yes. 02:11 And you're the co-founder, correct? 02:12 Yes, Ivan and I are both founders. 02:13 Nice. Nice. 02:15 And so how did it come about? 02:18 Well, to tell you the short story. 02:21 We in 2014, Ivan and I 02:24 had both been doing Bible work. 02:27 The conference no longer had a budget for Bible workers. 02:30 So we were kind of out on our own. 02:32 And we had a small group 02:34 and our small group was praying 02:36 for how this work would be supported. 02:38 And we felt impressed 02:40 to start a health food ministry, 02:43 and then we thought, okay, well, 02:45 how is this ministry going to be supported? 02:48 And we prayed and God gave us products 02:51 that we could manufacture 02:53 and sell to support our Bible work. 02:55 When she says products 02:56 she's talking about recipes for the product, 02:58 to make the product. 02:59 Yes. Got you. Got you. Nice. 03:01 We're gonna get a little bit deeper into that. 03:03 I wanna find out how your ministry 03:05 or how your business 03:06 has touched the lives of others. 03:08 I know we have videos, we have pictures... 03:09 Yes! 03:10 All kinds of great stuff, but before we go to that, 03:13 we're gonna be blessed in song by Stephanie Dawn, 03:16 and she's going to be singing "Leave a Well." 03:31 To the valley you've been through 03:37 Those around you must go too 03:42 Down the rocky path you travel 03:47 They will go 03:52 If to those learning of your trial 03:58 You'll lend the secret of your smile 04:03 You will help them 04:06 More than you will ever know 04:13 Leave a well in the valley 04:20 Its dark and lonesome valley 04:25 Others have to walk that valley too 04:35 What a blessing when they find 04:40 The well of joy you've left behind 04:45 Leave a well in the valley 04:51 You go through 04:57 Blessed is the man 05:02 Who has learned to understand 05:08 And becomes a hand for God 05:12 To those in need 05:17 Yes and all the tears he shed 05:24 With God's help become instead 05:28 A precious balm 05:32 That will heel the hearts that bleed 05:40 Leave a well in the valley 05:46 Its dark and lonesome valley 05:51 Others have to walk 05:55 That valley too 06:00 What a blessing when they find 06:06 The well of joy you've left behind 06:11 Leave a well in the valley 06:17 You go through 06:21 Yes leave a well in the valley 06:28 You go through 06:42 Amen. 06:43 Thank you for that beautiful song, 06:45 Stephanie Dawn. 06:46 If you're just now joining us, 06:47 I'm here with Ivan Raj and Heidi Tompkins of HHK 06:52 which we discussed was Heidi's Health Kitchen. 06:56 Now I want to know, is Heidi's Health Kitchen, 06:59 is it a business or is it a ministry? 07:01 Well, it's a hybrid. Okay. 07:04 It's a business and ministry... 07:06 Unpack that. Yes. 07:08 So our business is Christ-centered. 07:11 Obviously, our ministry is also Christ-centered. 07:13 And through our business, we minister to people. 07:17 Okay, nice. And you... 07:19 Our business also supports our ministry. 07:21 Got you. 07:23 Which is how we're able to continue to do Bible work. 07:25 Nice. Nice. 07:26 We actually have a promo video 07:28 that will tell us a little bit more 07:30 about Heidi's Health Kitchen. 07:31 Let's go to that now. 07:43 Heidi's Health Kitchen has been a for-profit member 07:45 of ASI since 2015, 07:48 and it has been a great blessing. 08:00 We are the manufacturers of CARUBIES Carob Truffles 08:03 and CARUBELLA a Decadent Carob Spread. 08:16 We also operate a Pop-Up Restaurant 08:18 following the principles 08:20 given in the Spirit of Prophecy for restaurant work. 08:23 The recipes are delicious. 08:25 Congratulations. Thank you very much. 08:26 You're also something. Thank you very much. 08:35 We also organize public health evangelism 08:37 and biblical evangelistic events 08:40 to interest souls in God's ways of living, 08:43 and His everlasting gospel. 08:46 The Atlantic Union Chapter of ASI has partnered with us 08:49 for the last two years in our annual program called 08:53 The Plant-Based Summit. 08:56 Designed as a health evangelism program, 08:58 introducing the health message 08:59 to the world primarily non-Adventists 09:03 who are interested in health. 09:15 Trying to thank Heidi Tompkins and Ivan 09:19 for putting this together in our crew, 09:21 for putting this together a very nice, very nice name. 09:34 I'm excited to share with you my presentation on diabetes 09:38 and beta cell regeneration. 09:40 Let me share my screen... 09:42 With you building our immune system 09:43 through nutrition. 09:44 We can look at things like garlic and ginger 09:47 and different foods, but what about herbs? 09:51 The ways of their practice is just amazing. 09:54 I like to listen to ideas by different perspective 09:58 in the sense of look at the data at work 10:00 what happens inside the cell? 10:02 I sort of have had sort of had visions, 10:07 what we're really looking at here is nature at work. 10:12 Absolutely. 10:14 This is nature itself. 10:17 And I find a whole idea, you know, it's so beautiful. 10:20 It's so beautiful and so interconnected. 10:24 And so precise that 10:26 I would just like to notch it up 10:29 one and say it smacks of design. 10:33 Yeah, I was, I was almost going to say the same thing. 10:37 You know that this was ultimately started off 10:40 with your arm as far as what you were taking, 10:43 and now you transform to so forth and so on. 10:46 And I see this whole operation that goes on inside the cells 10:50 and the communication between cells, 10:52 the communication between organs 10:54 are being so instantaneous almost. 10:57 Something is managing. 11:00 There's some management going on here, 11:02 who's in control, integrating and making 11:05 and turning this whole system into a center. 11:07 Really, really heavy-duty, it's really, really amazing. 11:10 Ivan is gonna be putting in the ingredients 11:12 for the cashew mayo. 11:14 Welcome again to The Plant-Based Summit 11:17 2020 virtual experience. 11:20 And I'm so happy to have you here today. 11:23 Thank you for joining us 11:24 for the 2020 Plant-Based Summit. 11:27 We hope that you are blessed. 11:29 We hope that you will look forward 11:31 to The Plant-Based Summit in 2021. 11:34 And we look forward to seeing you there. 11:38 ASI's Atlantic Union Chapter also partnered with us 11:41 in our first public evangelism program 11:44 called Blue Star, 11:45 an astronomy conference designed to promote creationism 11:49 and the Creator God amongst 11:51 non-Adventist homeschooling families, 11:53 right here in New York. 11:55 You're watching Heavens Declare. 11:56 I'm Jim Burr. 11:57 We want to highlight one of the stories 11:59 from our online Bible work. 12:00 I met Jasleen and her family on the internet. 12:03 They run a 70-member church n Punjab. 12:06 After 10 months of consistent Bible studies over the phone, 12:09 they have accepted the Sabbath truth, 12:12 they along with their congregation 12:14 will begin worshiping 12:15 on the Sabbath once lockdown is over. 12:33 Wow, what a powerful promo video. 12:35 I love that. 12:36 I wanna find out about your background now 12:39 'cause after watching that and seeing 12:40 how all of this is coming together 12:42 this hybrid between business and ministry, 12:46 what's your background? 12:47 Let's start with you, Heidi. 12:49 My background has always been sales and business. 12:52 And, of course, I love to cook. 12:53 I love to cook since I was young. 12:56 And probably by the age of eight, 12:58 I was doing a lot of the cooking 13:00 for my family. 13:01 So I've always loved to cook, 13:03 but cooking has not been my full-time profession sales 13:06 and I've owned several businesses. 13:08 Okay. Okay. And, Ivan, what about you? 13:10 Myself, from business development, 13:13 marketing, sales that's been my background. 13:16 So you guys have a similar background, then? 13:18 Yes. 13:19 And it's such a pleasure to be able to use like the skills 13:22 that God gave us that, of course, 13:24 we used for the world for quite a while, 13:26 but it's such a privilege to be working for God 13:29 and using them for Him instead of for the world. 13:32 Yeah, absolutely. 13:33 So what kind of products do you offer? 13:36 So our signature product line 13:38 includes our CARUBIES Carob Truffles, 13:42 our Decadent Carob Truffles, 13:43 we make them in eight different flavors, 13:46 and you can buy them by the box or an assortments. 13:48 We also have our CARUBELLA, 13:51 which is a Decadent Carob Spread. 13:53 This is like a vegan Nutella. 13:55 So it's very smooth and creamy. 13:57 You can frost cookies, cakes, and brownies with it, 13:59 excellent on toast or just with a spoon. 14:02 And we also sell a roasted fig beverage 14:05 called FIGSPRESSO. 14:07 Oh, wow. 14:08 And then in addition to that 14:09 we have some other small products, 14:11 you know, things that we buy in bulk that 14:14 we just package 14:15 and sell at a really great price 14:16 because we can, and then we also offer catering 14:22 and we have our Pop-Up Restaurant, 14:24 and then we have our conferences and... 14:27 So in other words you offer a lot. 14:29 Yes, we do. 14:30 Now these CARUBIES are really like rubies. 14:33 These things are... Yes. 14:34 These are good. Amen. 14:35 What would you say would be your favorite product? 14:39 I know that's a hard question. 14:40 I can answer that question. This is my favorite product. 14:44 Okay. Yeah. 14:45 I would almost say the CARUBELLA too. 14:47 Nice. Nice. 14:49 So you're the organizers 14:51 of the Annual Plant-Based Summit, 14:53 touch on that, what takes place there? 14:55 Sure. 14:56 So I noticed that a lot of people 15:00 are attributing veganism 15:02 or plant-based diet to Buddhism. 15:05 Now Buddha was not a vegan 15:08 or he was not in a plant-based diet. 15:12 And I want to show to the world that we have a health message, 15:15 which is tied up in the Bible. 15:17 So I prayed, and God gave me the wisdom 15:21 to organize the summit, 15:23 combining history, Bible, and science. 15:28 So that was the thought process behind this program... 15:33 Combining history, Bible, and science. 15:35 Correct. Okay. 15:37 And then obviously God impressed upon me 15:39 as to how to organize a conference like that 15:41 because I've never done anything as before. 15:43 And also the speaker lineup was done in such a way that 15:48 there were scientists, there were Adventist speakers, 15:50 you have seen couple of them, and also people 15:53 who can touch on history as well. 15:55 And present to non-Adventists, 15:59 the health message with gospel in it. 16:02 Yeah. 16:03 So in other words not just preaching to the choir. 16:05 Yeah. 16:07 But reaching out and it's evangelism. 16:09 Yes. 16:10 So there was a gentleman that was in one of the videos 16:14 or one of the scenes in the promo video. 16:16 Yes. 16:18 Tell us the significance behind that? 16:20 Sure. 16:22 Dr. Campbell, he is the author of the book China Study. 16:28 And also he is the, one of the main brains 16:30 behind the documentary Forks Over Knives. 16:33 Okay. 16:35 And he's also called as the godfather 16:36 of the modern day plant-based diet. 16:39 Okay. 16:41 And he had a mentor, Clive McKay. 16:45 And Dr. Campbell mentioned to us 16:48 and also in the summit video, he's also mentioned that 16:52 his mentor was influenced by Ellen G. White's writings. 16:57 He actually lived in her day. Wow! 16:59 He was actually alive while Ellen G. White was alive. 17:01 Wow. 17:02 So his mentor was influenced by Sister White's, 17:05 yeah, Ellen White's writings. 17:07 Yes. Wow. 17:09 And so how have you seen like with The Plant-Based Summit 17:13 with the conversation that took place? 17:15 Yep. 17:17 What was the takeaway there 17:19 because you had told me 17:22 about a powerful situation with that particularly... 17:24 Yes. 17:25 So he comes from evolutionism perspective, 17:30 although he has Christian roots for 60, 65 years, 17:34 he's been purely based on sciences, messages, 17:38 and lectures and books 17:39 has been purely based on science, 17:42 but during his research, as you mentioned, 17:46 in the promo video, we have noticed that 17:49 he found out that somebody 17:51 is in control of how the cells function, 17:56 how the cells work. 17:58 So I wanted to connect him or have him have a dialogue 18:02 with the creationist, Adventist creationist, 18:06 and see how that works out. 18:08 And Dr. Campbell agreed. 18:10 And our friend, Dr. White, he also agreed. 18:13 And so they both had a dialogue. 18:16 And it was a fantastic dialogue. 18:20 And Dr. Campbell enjoyed it to the point that he said, 18:23 "I want to have more conversations." 18:25 Wow, praise the Lord. 18:26 He also said that this was the most interesting 18:29 and best conversation that he's had in over 20 years. 18:32 Wow. 18:34 As a nutritional, sorry, as a biological evolutionist, 18:38 he has solely focused on nutrition and the science. 18:43 And he has avoided, you know, 18:45 bringing spiritual ideas 18:49 or components into any of his writing, 18:52 or any of his speaking or anything else. 18:54 And so it's just such, you know, 18:56 for those who decide to buy a ticket to our online 19:00 Plant-Based Summit, 19:01 you'll get to see the whole exchange. 19:03 And for those who saw many people 19:05 were just so blown away 19:07 because it was just like, you know, a real, 19:11 real conversation where he was like, "Wow." 19:14 It was almost like 19:15 I finally found someone I can connect with. 19:17 Yeah, and it was a huge witnessing opportunity. 19:19 Yes. Yes. That's incredible. 19:22 I also saw the thing with the Middle East. 19:25 Yes. Okay. 19:26 So that's a powerful testimony. 19:29 I say it because you will see that 19:31 God led a group of people 19:34 to contact a Seventh-day Adventist Church Facebook page, 19:40 and ask them where they worship. 19:43 So they contacted and the message came to me 19:46 because I was the Facebook admin 19:48 at that time for that Adventist Church. 19:52 So I told them, 19:54 we gathered in so and so place for worship. 19:57 And I asked them where you guys gather? 20:00 And they mentioned the place 20:02 which I've never heard before, heard of before. 20:04 And so I looked up, 20:06 and I found it was in the Middle East. 20:09 So I picked up the phone 20:10 and I call them through social media. 20:13 And they couldn't understand me 20:15 because they didn't speak English. 20:17 And obviously, I didn't understand them. 20:20 They spoke in Farsi. 20:23 And so that being said, long story short, 20:28 I started communicating with them 20:30 through Google translator. 20:32 And they had many questions. 20:34 And now the reason why they contacted 20:36 the Adventist Church 20:37 was because during their research, 20:40 reading the Bible, again, these are Middle Easterners, 20:43 they found that Sabbath is on Saturday, not on Sunday. 20:48 And they wanted to gather 20:51 and worship with a Saturday keeping church, 20:55 not a Sunday keeping church. 20:58 So they Googled and they didn't find any place 21:04 around the region in their area. 21:07 So they said, "Okay, 21:08 let's join Jewish congregation." 21:11 So they search for the Jewish congregation. 21:13 And the organization 21:15 they contacted was a Jewish 21:18 Seventh-day Adventist congregation. 21:19 Beth Shalom. Oh, wow. 21:22 Yeah, they meet in Long Island. Oh, okay. 21:24 Okay. Yeah. 21:25 So that's how we got connected. 21:27 So I spent many, many hours like translating 21:29 what they write to me, and then type in English, 21:34 and then translate it back into their language 21:36 and send them the information, answer their questions. 21:39 And then I reached out to our MENA friends, 21:42 Middle East and North Africa friend's leadership. 21:45 And I told them this whole story and send them 21:48 all the information they need. 21:49 And they, because I want to make sure that 21:51 ISIS is not after me already. 21:53 Yes. Yes. Yes. 21:54 So they went and they checked, 21:57 and they found that these guys 21:59 are sincerely seeking the truth. 22:00 Yes. 22:02 So long story short, 22:03 we have two baptisms from the group. 22:06 And they are Seventh-day Adventists. 22:09 Wow. Praise the Lord. 22:11 Now that's global Bible work. Yes. 22:13 Do you do local like US based Bible work as well? 22:18 Yes. So tell us about that? Absolutely. 22:21 So Ivan and I have Bible students in New York, 22:25 in Canada, and in several other states. 22:28 And some of the people are people 22:32 that we have come to through friends 22:34 and other contacts and contacts through 22:37 ministry in our business, 22:38 and others are people that we come across 22:41 on the internet on social media. 22:42 Wow. Wow. Yeah. 22:44 So it's basically just, 22:45 it's like digital evangelism, online evangelism. 22:47 We're just fishing, you know, God leads us and, you know, 22:49 we asked God to bring us to the souls that are ripe, 22:53 right 'cause nobody wants to waste time, right? 22:56 And so we just ask God, lead us however You choose, 23:00 lead us to those who are really, you know, 23:03 honest in heart and searching 23:04 and seeking for the truth that we can be His instruments. 23:07 Yeah. 23:08 Now there was a fitness trainer? 23:09 Yes. 23:11 So God led me to a fitness trainer 23:14 through the internet who lives in New York. 23:16 And she comes 23:18 from a non-Christian background, 23:21 and then she got baptized 23:23 into a church about 10 years ago 23:25 because they said, 23:26 "Who all want to come, get baptized? 23:28 Come." 23:29 So she just got into the baptismal pool. 23:32 However, she was looking 23:34 for somebody to help understand the Bible. 23:38 So when I connected with her, which was more than a year ago, 23:42 I introduced her to some videos from Pastor Doug Batchelor, 23:47 Pastor Ivan Meyers, and our friends. 23:51 And so she was blown away by the content, 23:55 the information that helped her draw closer to Christ. 23:59 In addition to that, 24:01 I have been studying the Bible with her every week regularly. 24:04 She wanted to know 24:05 what does salvation by faith mean? 24:08 So we have an eight-part series on that 24:12 which we offer to our Bible students. 24:13 So we took her through 24:15 each step of righteousness by faith. 24:17 And in addition to that 24:20 because we come from a business background, 24:22 Heidi and I, we also have been mentoring her 24:25 to change her business 24:28 to a Christ-centered fitness training. 24:30 Nice. 24:32 So she's gonna make that transition. 24:35 Transition, and I'm helping her come up with a new website. 24:39 And she's getting baptized 24:40 on the 17th of this month into our church. 24:42 Wow. 24:43 Now tell me about the Indian Hindu 24:46 that lives in Canada? 24:48 Okay. Yes. 24:49 That's a very interesting story. 24:51 Yes. 24:52 So about five years ago, 24:55 I was asked to contact this gentleman 24:58 who was suicidal and he lived in India. 25:01 He was into astrology. He was into numerology. 25:05 And he didn't find answers 25:07 and solutions to life's questions. 25:10 And he was introduced to Christians also. 25:12 So he asked them, 25:14 he asked the Christians many questions about his life, 25:17 about his future. 25:19 And why he's going through all the sufferings. 25:21 They told him, "You should get baptized 25:23 into a church in order to overcome this." 25:26 And he felt that is not the solution, 25:29 it doesn't make sense. 25:30 So I was asked to talk to him. 25:33 So when I spoke to him, I spoke to him 25:36 I think for four and half hours on the phone. 25:38 So I'm in New York, he's in New Delhi, India. 25:43 And we became good friends. 25:46 However, his prayers were not getting answered. 25:51 He wanted instant result, instant answers. 25:54 I had sent him a Bible. 25:56 I actually have a picture of the Bible 26:00 that I sent him that he set on fire. 26:03 He took a picture and he sent it to me. 26:07 Now how do you react to it? 26:09 As a human being you get angry, frustrated, 26:13 and but I thought 26:15 how would Christ react to the situation? 26:19 I did not. 26:21 I did not get angry or upset with him. 26:24 I asked God to give me the patience. 26:27 And I wanted Christ to be revealed in my character 26:31 in response to what he did. 26:32 Yes. 26:35 Four five years later, 26:36 while we were still in interaction, 26:39 on and off, he moved to Canada. 26:42 And then he said, teach me the Bible. 26:46 Actually, he said, 26:47 "Send me something to chant from the Bible." 26:50 I said, "We don't do that." 26:53 It's in Hinduism, not in Christianity. 26:55 We don't do that. 26:57 We have a relationship with the Creator. 26:59 So we have a dialogue with the Creator. 27:01 So I sent him texts and videos 27:03 where you can learn how to pray. 27:05 And also, we started doing Bible studies. 27:08 Then he also got introduced 27:10 to a local Seventh-day Adventist Church. 27:14 And there's a picture of him 27:17 participating in a Zoom Bible study. 27:19 This was a picture 27:21 when he was a Hindu five years ago. 27:22 And now there's another... 27:25 There's a picture where you will see him 27:28 participating in a Zoom Bible study 27:30 with our Adventist Church. 27:33 And he told me, "Even if the heavens fall, 27:37 I will not go back to Hinduism." 27:41 I asked him why. 27:42 He said, "I read Hindu scriptures, 27:46 there is promiscuity by the deities. 27:51 So how can they expect humans to be good?" 27:55 In the Bible, in the life of Christ, 27:57 by the way, he read 27:58 all the four gospels by himself. 28:01 And he said, "In the Bible, I noticed the purity of Christ, 28:06 His character." 28:07 And he said, "I feel so bad 28:09 when I read the crucifixion part of Christ." 28:11 Nothing like that exists in Hinduism. 28:14 Most importantly, he said, I have peace. 28:17 I believe that God is talking to me. 28:19 I believe that God is with me and guiding me. 28:22 And I believe that this is real. 28:24 So therefore, even if the heavens fall, 28:26 I will not go back to Hinduism. 28:28 I will be a Seventh-day Adventist Christian, 28:31 and he's actually going through baptismal classes now. 28:34 That is huge. 28:35 Praise the Lord. 28:37 Amen. It's a real blessing. 28:38 He participates in our weekly, 28:41 our ministry offers a Zoom worship every Sabbath. 28:45 And so he participates in that. 28:47 And, you know, we always ask our guests 28:49 and our Bible students if they have prayer requests, 28:52 and he prays every day, 28:54 and he's always praying during the week 28:56 for the requests that people have shared 28:57 on Sabbath morning. 28:59 He prays for others. 29:00 He prays for others, he prays for us, 29:02 and we're always praying for him. 29:03 It's a real blessing. That's awesome. 29:05 Yeah, so a guy who burnt the Bible 29:09 is now going to become 29:11 a Seventh-day Adventist by God's grace. 29:12 Incredible. 29:13 And he ended up reading the four gospels... 29:15 Four gospels. On his own. 29:18 Now I wanna transition a little bit 29:20 and we'll come back to this, 29:22 but I wanna find out what happened during COVID-19. 29:27 Like, how was Heidi's Health Kitchen impacted 29:30 during the pandemic? 29:32 It was actually a great blessing. 29:35 I mean, you know, 29:36 we've operated as a Pop-Up Restaurant 29:38 for the past four years now. 29:40 And so that came to a pause, our cooking classes... 29:46 We used to give cooking classes every month in Manhattan 29:49 for the last six or seven years, 29:51 six years now. 29:52 And that came to a pause, but, you know, 29:55 because people are home and they're shopping online, 29:58 our business, I mean, just our orders went from like, 30:02 our regular production to like Christmas time. 30:05 Wow. 30:07 At that time of the year, you know, 30:08 usually the spring is a slow time for us. 30:11 We're really busy through Valentine's Day 30:12 'cause, of course, people are looking for chocolate 30:14 and things like that, and then we have a law. 30:17 And we just, I mean, 30:18 it's really been unbelievable the volume. 30:21 And we really, really appreciate it. 30:23 We appreciate our customers locally, 30:25 who wanna support local business. 30:27 We appreciate our, you know, 30:29 Adventist community that wants to support 30:31 Adventist businesses. 30:33 And we really, really appreciate 30:35 our 3ABN family 30:36 that wants to support their 3ABN family. 30:39 Yes, yes. 30:41 So it's really been an incredible blessing. 30:43 And, you know, every single purchase 30:44 of our products 30:45 is what supports our Bible work. 30:47 So really, when people are buying our products, 30:50 you're really supporting God's work. 30:52 And we're truly grateful. Yes, yes. 30:54 So we have some pictures of our Pop-Up Restaurant... 30:57 What is a Pop-Up Restaurant? Good question. 30:59 So Pop-Up Restaurant is a concept where we, 31:05 with our team, go to a coffee house. 31:08 Okay. 31:10 And we rent the coffee house when it is shut, 31:13 like Sunday afternoon. 31:14 Family restaurants work well, too. 31:16 We're looking for a place that's open during the day 31:18 and they're closed in the evening. 31:19 Got you. So we can rent in the evening. 31:21 They close and we open up as Heidi's Health Kitchen. 31:23 That's Heidi's Health Kitchen. 31:25 And this is a concept that God gave me 31:28 when I prayed and asked God 31:29 because I'm always looking for unique ways 31:32 to approach our communities to reach with the gospel. 31:38 And so I said, Heidi, 31:40 we're gonna do a Pop-Up Restaurant. 31:42 The times we're living in, I don't think it's right for us 31:45 to own a restaurant per se. 31:46 Got you. 31:47 So probably we should do a pop-up 31:49 and she asked what is pop-up? 31:51 So I explained her based on the research 31:52 I've done because pop-up concept 31:54 started in London during Olympics. 31:57 Yes. 31:58 So people open up their homes, 32:00 and they setup restaurants in the kitchen for people 32:03 who came for the Olympics to buy food 32:05 or dine at their homes. 32:08 So I read about it. 32:09 And I contacted a certain couple 32:12 who were willing to rent out their coffee shop space 32:16 for us to use as a pop-up. 32:18 How you sell kitchen pop-up. 32:20 However, they were not willing to rent it to us later on 32:25 when they found out, we have a Christ-centered... 32:30 Atmosphere. Atmosphere. 32:32 Wow. Yeah. 32:33 And I was very upset and disappointed 32:36 which I shouldn't have been at that time 32:37 because we cannot take things personally 32:39 when it comes to ministry, 32:41 but I was still growing at the time, right? 32:42 So I prayed and asked God to show me what went wrong. 32:47 This couple, they wanted us to come 32:49 and do a pop-up regularly. 32:52 Now they've shut down our proposal. 32:55 And after five days, I had a dream. 32:58 Actually, I had a voice in my sleep, male voice, 33:02 and the male voice told me, "Ivan, 33:05 go and talk to Jack Jack's Coffee House owners." 33:09 Which is a coffee house about two minutes drive 33:11 from Heidi's place. 33:14 And so later on the day, I said, 33:18 "I heard a voice that told me to go and talk to them 33:21 about the pop-up for which I've been praying 33:23 for the last five days asking God to..." 33:25 Where can you go? "Where can I go?" 33:27 Yes. Where can we go? Yes. 33:29 So we went, I took pictures and a proposal everything 33:32 and I submitted it to the owners 33:34 of the coffee house. 33:35 And this... 33:37 Oh, we love everything 33:38 that you guys are showing and the concept, 33:40 but we only have two conditions. 33:42 No liquor allowed. 33:44 No stand up comedy 33:47 because there's a lot of cuss language 33:50 towards at lunch time. 33:51 I said, "Not a problem." Yes, yes. 33:54 We will follow that policy not a problem, 33:58 but then I said, 33:59 "Hey, look, we are Seventh-day Adventist Christians." 34:01 I want to be very transparent. "We are Seventh-day Christians. 34:04 We have glow tracks on every table 34:07 and we play Christian instrumental music. 34:10 Are you guys okay with that?" 34:12 And they said, "Oh, we have no issues. 34:14 Make sure you don't break those two principles." 34:18 Don't have to worry about that. 34:21 So ever since we started Pop-Up Restaurant 34:23 which is three years ago, God has led us to connect 34:28 with the affluent class of people. 34:31 And so basically... 34:33 And they say 34:34 that's the hardest class to reach. 34:36 Yes. Yes. 34:37 That's awesome. 34:38 People say when they come to our pop-up, 34:40 when they dine, 34:41 they have a great experience in terms of ambience, 34:43 in terms of the peaceful Christian instrumental music, 34:46 and the literature. 34:48 Non-Christian patrons of ours who dine, 34:54 they always ask us, can we take the glow tracks? 34:58 Some of them even ask can we take more? 35:01 Or do you have any others? 35:02 Yes. Yes. 35:04 So they're going out 35:05 and they're distributing the glow tracks. 35:07 Yes. That's great. 35:10 So, Ivan, you strike me and, Heidi, 35:12 you guys strike me as two people 35:14 who do a lot of research. 35:16 Yeah. Yes. 35:17 Now, I know that we saw the gentleman 35:21 that used to be Hindu, 35:23 he used to, he had the orange and the red. 35:27 Yes. 35:28 What is that significant of why those particular colors? 35:34 And then we'll transition into the yoga thing 35:37 'cause I think that 35:38 there are a lot of people in our church 35:41 that are getting caught up in yoga 35:42 that have no idea what's behind it? 35:45 And so maybe you can shed some light on that as well. 35:47 Absolutely. Absolutely. 35:51 First question was the orange color. 35:55 So the orange color represents sun. 35:58 Okay. 36:00 So sun worship is a primary 36:04 form of worship in Hinduism, Sun God. 36:08 Wow. 36:10 So that is why the cloths are orange or reddish orange. 36:14 That is a kind of clothes 36:15 that all those Hindu gurus wear. 36:18 In terms of yoga, as you mentioned, 36:22 a lot of people are deceived 36:25 because Satan is a master deceiver. 36:28 When Eve was in the garden, 36:31 when we read Genesis 3:6, 36:35 everything that Eve saw in the tree 36:38 or above the tree was good, 36:40 pleasant to the eyes, good for food, 36:42 and to make one wise. 36:44 There was nothing bad about the tree itself. 36:48 And she ate the fruit. 36:51 Now yoga, in the surface, 36:56 everything is good about it according to media, 36:58 according to publications, according to yoga gurus, 37:01 even according to practitioners 37:02 who get results will get healing of yoga. 37:06 However, the question is, 37:10 who is the author and finisher of your faith? 37:14 If I say, Christ is the author and finisher of my faith, 37:18 then who was the founder of yoga? 37:24 Who was the author of yoga? 37:27 Not Jesus Christ. 37:30 A Hindu deity called Shiva. 37:34 Shiva means that which is not. 37:39 So when we go to... 37:41 Let's say, we all go to Garden of Eden. 37:44 And we ask Eve a question, "Eve, okay, you got deceived. 37:49 Did you see Satan?" 37:52 What would be Eve's response? 37:55 He was not. He was not there. 37:59 'Cause she would be talking about the serpent. 38:02 She would talk about serpent 38:04 even though serpent was possessed. 38:06 Yes, possessed. 38:08 So yoga is rooted in Hinduism. 38:13 It is a Hindu ritual. 38:18 It does bring healing, 38:20 but it has a lot of side effects, 38:23 which will manifest later on. 38:24 And not every healing comes from the Lord. 38:28 Not every healing comes from God. 38:31 Through many of these mediums Satan can bring a healing 38:35 or bring a, you know, 38:37 it says actually in the Spirit of Prophecy, 38:40 in last day events says that Satan will inflict a condition, 38:46 a health implication or something, 38:49 and then remove his hand 38:50 as if to show there was a miraculous healing. 38:53 Wow. 38:54 And so we have to understand 38:59 what where is the power coming from? 39:01 Is it coming from God or is it coming from Satan? 39:05 So and also stretching is different from yoga. 39:09 They both are two different concepts. 39:12 Unpack that because you have a lot of people 39:14 that will say, "Oh, well, it's just stretching. 39:16 I'm just, you know, I'm just stretching." 39:18 Yeah. 39:19 Well, what's the difference between 39:21 yoga and stretching? 39:22 Sure. 39:24 I'll state few differences right away. 39:26 First of all, again, yoga is rooted in Hinduism. 39:30 It is one of the six schools of Hindu philosophy. 39:34 There are six schools in Hindu philosophy. 39:35 Okay. 39:37 And it is close to a philosophy called Samkhya in Hinduism. 39:40 Samkhya means numbers. 39:42 There's also another meaning to it called knowledge. 39:46 And yoga is the practical arm of the theory of Samkhya 39:52 which is theory of knowledge. 39:54 So yoga stretching, if you go to yoga studios, 39:59 you don't see people wearing flip flops, 40:03 shoes, right? 40:04 People don't wear any footwear 40:09 because it's a Hindu ritual, first point. 40:11 Wow. That's interesting. 40:12 Second point is people say I don't do the chanting, 40:15 I just do the stretching. 40:17 So, Jason, my question to you. 40:20 If I do this, who am I? A Catholic. 40:23 A Catholic. Yeah. 40:25 So if I kneel down, and I lift my hands like this, 40:28 and do like this, who am I? 40:29 I'm a Muslim. Oh, Muslim. 40:32 Muslim. 40:33 So physical forms of worship 40:36 exist in all the religions 40:40 except Christianity. 40:43 In Christianity, 40:44 the Bible says God wants our heart. 40:46 He wants to build a relationship, 40:48 but in other religions, 40:50 you have to express your worship, 40:52 but the question is who are you worshiping? 40:56 So yoga, the word yoga means to yoke, 41:00 to unite, to marry. 41:02 Wow. 41:04 Yoga, it's a Sanskrit term. 41:06 Sanskrit is the ancient, 41:09 the spiritual language in India. 41:12 So who are you uniting with? 41:14 So there are two versions to it. 41:15 Or who are you marrying? 41:17 Who are you marrying? 41:18 And the Bible says that we're to be married to Christ. 41:20 Yes, yes. 41:22 So initially, yoga is just stretching, 41:25 but the meaning for those stretches are deep. 41:29 And it is to help one actualize as they say 41:34 or self-realize that one is God. 41:39 Also, each different pose invokes a different Hindu god. 41:43 Wow. Totally contrary to Scripture. 41:46 Yeah. Yes. And, you know... 41:48 Thou shall have no other gods before Me. 41:50 Yes. Yes, absolutely. 41:52 I remember seeing a clip 41:54 where there was a gentleman who is Hindu, 41:58 or and he said that basically, 42:04 if you do the pose, 42:08 then you're Hindu. 42:09 If you're stretching, then you're Hindu. 42:10 He just said automatically. I don't remember his name. 42:13 The movement you bend your body for yoga, 42:16 you're practicing Hinduism. 42:17 You're practicing Hinduism. 42:18 Now for the Christians who say, "I don't chant, 42:21 I just stretch." 42:23 I want the Christians to know that they in India, 42:27 not just in India, even in the US. 42:30 There are many yoga gurus who say, 42:34 how come you didn't find anything 42:36 in your own religion? 42:38 Why do you wanna Christianize what belong to us. 42:42 And they also say, the British when they ruled India, 42:44 they stole our gold. 42:47 Now they're stealing our ritual and Christianizing it. 42:50 Wow. 42:52 Wow, it's deep because, you know, 42:56 Satan does this with a lot of different things. 42:59 It's not just yoga and stuff like acupuncture 43:01 and stuff like other things. 43:03 I know my mom used to practice acupuncture, 43:05 she gave up her whole practice when she realized that it was, 43:08 you know, not of God. 43:10 Correct. And she gave up her practice. 43:13 Yeah. 43:14 But, you know, it's important that people get educated. 43:18 And I know that you'll go around to churches, 43:21 and you'll share with them, you know, 43:23 not just health in terms of, you know, 43:26 what we're putting in our bodies, 43:28 but what we're doing... 43:29 It's not just the physical health, 43:30 we're concerned about our mental, 43:32 emotional, and spiritual health. 43:34 And so we've been already to 10 or 12 different churches 43:38 where Ivan has specifically been talking about this topic 43:42 because people don't have a clue. 43:44 Yeah. 43:45 The reason is, I won't blame the people 43:47 because Satan is a master deceiver. 43:51 And to understand Satan's deception, 43:55 we got to read the Bible. 43:58 Absolutely. Absolutely. 44:00 We can never identify otherwise. 44:01 Without reading the Bible, 44:02 it's impossible to understand the workings of Satan. 44:06 Yes, everything that God has, Satan has a counterfeit for it. 44:09 Yes. 44:10 And, you know, we were talking just the other day. 44:15 And you were sharing the principle of NEWSTART. 44:18 Yes. 44:19 But then you also share the counterfeit. 44:21 Yes. What was that? 44:22 So there's something called as Yoga Sutras, 44:28 which means yoga principles or yoga precepts. 44:31 So they have four chapters. 44:33 And there are 195 sayings in those chapters. 44:37 Some people say 165, some people say 190, 44:41 but generally people say 195 is in Hinduism. 44:44 And in the second chapter is found eight limbs of yoga. 44:49 In the eight limbs of yoga, the third limb is the posture, 44:54 the stretching. 44:55 Wow, eight limbs of yoga, eight laws of health. 44:58 Eight laws of health. 45:00 Yes. Right. 45:01 And so I was sharing this, right? 45:04 So if we again go to Garden of Eden, 45:07 and we ask Eve, what were you doing 45:11 when you had an interaction with the serpent? 45:14 She would say, "I was gardening." 45:18 But what is gardening in new start? 45:20 Exercise. Exercise. 45:21 So Eve was exercising and what did she learned? 45:26 You will be like gods, you will not die. 45:28 Wow. 45:29 So that same concept is found in yoga. 45:32 So when you ask people, 45:33 what were you doing in the yoga studio? 45:35 I was just stretching. I was exercising. 45:38 But what are they learning, you will be like gods. 45:41 Wow, wow. 45:43 It's a counterfeit of NEWSTART. 45:45 Yes, yes, it is. 45:47 Transitioning out of the yoga into the other physical health, 45:53 what does a cooking class look like? 45:56 So when you go to a church, like what is it? 45:57 Sure. Sure. 45:59 In our cooking classes, 46:00 we generally demonstrate three to four different dishes. 46:04 And all the while 46:05 we're sharing the health benefits 46:07 of the ingredients, 46:09 and how they can benefit one's health 46:12 or their physical condition. 46:14 And we also one of our elders 46:17 is a doctor of natural medicine. 46:21 And so in between each one of my demonstrations, 46:24 he'll share and expand a little bit more 46:26 upon health principles, and the eight laws of health. 46:29 And so that is really, you know, 46:32 a great opportunity for people to get some health education 46:36 and learn how to cook as well. 46:38 And in addition to that, we also want to add stretching, 46:43 non-yoga regular stretching exercise, 46:47 which will be presented by a certified fitness coach, 46:50 who is our main Bible student 46:52 that we mentioned about earlier. 46:55 So we wanna incorporate that. 46:56 And what's the purpose of incorporating that? 46:58 So that people know that there is actually a method 47:01 which doesn't have any connection with... 47:03 With yoga. With yoga or Hinduism. 47:05 Because when people have seen the presentation 47:07 that Ivan has given in many of these churches 47:10 that we've gone to, and, you know, 47:13 they realize what's going on and what they're involved in. 47:17 The first question they ask is, so how am I gonna stretch? 47:20 How am I going to exercise? What do I do? 47:22 Yes, yes. 47:24 We have to, 47:25 we can't just leave them hanging there. 47:27 We have to provide, you know, all the resources they need. 47:30 And you need to be able to. 47:32 You need to stretch. Sure, absolutely. 47:33 We need to stretch, it's important. 47:34 We also mentioned about 47:36 a Blue Zone in Loma Linda, right? 47:38 People follow a NEWSTART. 47:40 And they don't do yoga. They live long. 47:42 I know what a Blue Zone is, 47:44 but for our viewers that don't what's a Blue Zone? 47:46 Sure. 47:47 Okay, so Blue Zones are defined by National Geographic Channel 47:52 as a zone where people live over 100 years. 47:56 Yes. 47:57 I remember I went to Loma Linda 47:59 and I went to the senior citizen home. 48:03 And, man, those people could move. 48:06 They can get around... Praise God. 48:07 Without yoga. They were... 48:09 Yeah, and they were so, they were brilliant. 48:11 And I was just like, 48:13 "Wait a minute, you're how old." 48:15 I was blown away. I was blown away. 48:17 Yes. Many centenarians. Yes. 48:18 And it's important to maintain that healthy diet. 48:21 Yes, not just for our body, but for our brains. 48:24 It's so important for us to consider that our physical, 48:28 mental, emotional, and spiritual health 48:30 are all intertwined, but that doesn't mean 48:33 we need to be bending our body to worship other gods. 48:36 Yes. Yes. 48:37 We should never worship other gods. 48:39 So I also wanna mention about a testimony of a family 48:45 from a state of Punjab 48:46 we have actually the northern part of India. 48:49 And God connected me 48:54 with this family that I mentioned about 48:55 in the promotional video, 48:57 and they are from a Hindu background. 49:00 And they didn't find solutions and answers in Hinduism 49:03 because very complicated and confusing, 49:06 and then they join or they became Sikhs. 49:10 And there also they did not find solutions. 49:16 Then they were introduced to Christianity. 49:19 So this family became Christian family. 49:21 Pentecostal. 49:23 Pentecostal family 49:24 and there also they did not find solution. 49:27 So they decided to start their own church. 49:30 And they have it all registered formally 49:33 with the Indian government 49:34 that we are established formal church gathering 49:36 on Sunday mornings. 49:38 Now I was providentially led to them 49:42 through the internet over a year ago. 49:45 And me and the family started talking, 49:49 and then we start off doing Bible studies. 49:51 So I speak in English, 49:53 and their daughter translates into Punjabi. 49:56 And the mother and the father write down notes in Punjabi 49:59 and they teach it to their church. 50:00 Wow. 50:02 This whole church 75-member church 50:06 has decided to become a Sabbath keeping church. 50:09 Wow. Amen. 50:11 So... Praise God. 50:13 So they were going to church on Sunday. 50:16 They translated what you sent them. 50:19 They translated... Over the phone. Yeah. 50:21 And then now they're a Sabbath keeping church. 50:24 Yes. That's incredible. 50:26 That is incredible. By God's grace. 50:28 You guys are witnessing in multiple different arenas, 50:32 multiple different avenues. 50:35 I wanna just go over real quickly, 50:37 what you provide services to churches, 50:41 all of that because in a minute, 50:42 we're gonna go to your address roll. 50:45 So what do you offer? Sure. 50:48 So I mean, these Bible workers. 50:49 Ivan and I both preach, we give Bible studies, 50:52 we give health related programs, 50:56 we give the programs, 50:58 you know, about the things from Ivan's background. 51:02 And so we really all of the things 51:05 that we've discussed today, you know, 51:07 we can offer online or in person. 51:09 Yes. Nice. 51:11 In terms of business, obviously, 51:12 if people want to support us, our ministry, 51:15 we have our products that 51:17 people can order from our website. 51:18 Wonderful. 51:19 We also have another website called PlantBased7 51:21 which we showed 51:22 during the promo video in the beginning, 51:24 where people can register to view The Plant-Based Summit. 51:29 That's wonderful. 51:30 And I know that people will want 51:31 to invite you to their church, 51:33 for the seminars, for the Pop-Up Restaurants, 51:35 to really educate the congregation. 51:37 At this time, we're gonna get ready 51:39 to go to the address roll, 51:41 and then a news break, and then we'll be right back. 51:46 For more information about Heidi's Health Kitchen, 51:49 please go to their website at HeidisHealthKitchen.com. 51:53 That's HeidisHealthKitchen.com 51:56 or you may email them at HeidisHealthKitchen@gmail.com. 52:00 That's HeidisHealthKitchen@gmail.com. 52:04 Their address is PO Box 232, Babylon, New York 11702. 52:10 That's PO Box 232, Babylon, New York 11702. |
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