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Anchor Point Films & Personal Testimony

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00:01 As you're well aware,
00:02 we're living in unprecedented times.
00:05 Join us now for Today special program.
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:17 Mending broken people
00:23 I want to spend my life
00:29 Removing pain
00:33 Lord, let my words
00:39 Heal a heart that hurts
00:44 I want to spend my life
00:49 Mending broken people
00:55 I want to spend my life
01:00 Mending broken people
01:15 Hello, friends, and welcome to 3ABN Today.
01:18 We are so thankful and blessed that you are joining us.
01:20 We know that you could be doing anything else,
01:22 and you're joining us at this time,
01:24 and we appreciate that.
01:25 We thank you for your love,
01:26 your prayers and support of 3ABN ministry
01:29 for obviously right now,
01:30 because of you, this message, these three angels' messages,
01:33 the gospel truth, the love of Christ
01:35 is going all around the world right now as we speak.
01:38 And so thank you. And you know what?
01:41 You're not gonna want to change the channel,
01:42 whatever platform you're watching this through,
01:44 whether it be YouTube
01:45 or you're watching it through satellite
01:46 or whatever platform you're watching
01:48 and don't change the channel.
01:49 Don't click off this video because we have a powerful,
01:52 powerful story of transformation
01:55 and some information
01:56 that we're gonna be sharing this hour
01:58 that could potentially save your life.
02:00 And I'm very excited about the guests we have.
02:03 We have Chad and Fadia Kruezer
02:05 from Anchor Point Films that are joining us today.
02:08 And how are you guys doing?
02:09 Wonderful, we're happy to be here.
02:11 Amen. Praise the Lord.
02:12 And we're gonna get right into your story in just a moment.
02:15 But before we go any further, we have a wonderful blessing
02:18 that's gonna be brought to us by Mary Grace.
02:20 She's going to be playing for us the song,
02:23 "The Lord's Prayer."
05:14 Amen. Thank you so much Mary Grace.
05:17 I love hearing her play.
05:18 The Lord has blessed her so much
05:20 with a wonderful ability to make the piano come alive.
05:24 And I love that song, The Lord's Prayer,
05:26 reminds us of how much we depend on God
05:28 to see us through.
05:30 And I wanna get right in to this story,
05:33 powerful story of transformation.
05:35 And we're gonna be learning so much from Chad
05:37 and Fadia Kruezer from Anchor Point Films.
05:39 And we've already asked you how you're doing.
05:41 We know you're doing great.
05:43 And we know the Lord has brought you here to share
05:45 with us who you are
05:47 and a little bit about your ministry.
05:48 And you also have a story to tell us about
05:51 how the Lord has made
05:52 a transformation in your life, Chad.
05:55 And we'll get into that in just a moment,
05:56 but you know, there may be
05:57 someone watching at home right now
05:59 that doesn't know who Chad and Fadia Kruezer are.
06:01 So tell us a little bit about yourself
06:02 and where you're from and all that good stuff?
06:05 Yeah. We...
06:07 Fadia and I have been married for what,
06:09 13 years now
06:11 and we live in Michigan, presently.
06:13 I was born and raised in Michigan,
06:15 but then we traveled
06:16 for 19 years doing ministry around the world,
06:20 living in Europe and traveling around the world.
06:22 But then we moved back to Michigan
06:25 just before COVID struck
06:28 and we have a ministry Anchor Point Films
06:30 and a YouTube channel called Health and Homestead.
06:32 Wow.
06:34 Praise the Lord, Anchor Point Films.
06:35 And I have to say,
06:36 I was telling you this a little bit about
06:39 this before we had came out around the set,
06:41 but Anchor Point Films, for those of you don't know,
06:44 you guys have produced several documentaries,
06:46 powerful documentaries.
06:48 And the one that I remember specifically
06:49 that made an impact in my life
06:51 was when I was back in AFCO in 2013,
06:54 they played as kind of a part of the curriculum there,
06:56 "The Forgotten Dream."
06:59 And that was one about Daniel too.
07:01 And you guys have done several documentaries.
07:02 Tell us a little bit about what Anchor Point Films does?
07:04 Yeah, we were, so we worked in Europe,
07:06 we were working with atheists, agnostics.
07:10 Most of the people that we were coming in contact
07:11 were just simply, they didn't believe in God.
07:13 And then we moved to Oregon and as we were visiting
07:18 with people in Oregon,
07:19 we were even studying the Bible with people.
07:21 One of the things that they shared with us
07:22 over and over...
07:24 Would be things like, "Oh, I know about the Bible."
07:26 Right.
07:27 Because they wanna be open-minded
07:29 and have a conversation.
07:30 Like I know about the Bible and we were like,
07:32 "Oh, what do you know about the Bible?"
07:33 And they're like, "I watch the history channel."
07:35 And we were like, "Oh really?"
07:37 And so then they'd tell us
07:38 what they would watch, you know,
07:39 some documentary they would see
07:42 and we'd have such great conversations with them.
07:46 And then we'd say, "Oh, would you like this pamphlet?"
07:49 On whatever it was we had talked about
07:52 and they were like, "Oh, I don't like to read."
07:53 Right.
07:55 Oh, we had such a great conversation
07:56 and we have nothing to leave them with.
07:59 And so then we would come together
08:01 as a group and say, "What do we do?"
08:04 Like, we don't wanna give a sermon,
08:07 you know, not that we have a problem with that,
08:09 but these people just aren't into that.
08:11 And so we eventually had this burden,
08:16 well, they seem to watch documentaries
08:18 that are religious, they're kind of religious.
08:20 So why doesn't somebody in the church
08:23 make a documentary?
08:24 Right?
08:26 I mean, a lot of us said things like that,
08:27 like, "Why doesn't the church do this?
08:29 And why doesn't the church do that?"
08:30 And then God's like
08:31 "You're the church and I gave you the idea.
08:34 So you do it." That's amazing.
08:36 And so the door opened,
08:37 so we made the first documentary
08:39 to establish that the Bible could be trusted.
08:41 The second one was to establish that
08:43 Jesus was who He claimed to be
08:46 through history, through prophecy.
08:47 And then it just went through things like,
08:49 if God is good,
08:50 why is there so much pain and suffering?
08:51 And we touch on things like death
08:53 and the change of God's law and all of these things
08:56 that it just began to be something
08:58 that we just wanted to make one.
08:59 And we were simply making it.
09:01 So we would have a tool
09:02 to share with people personally.
09:03 We really weren't thinking of like distributing them.
09:05 It was more like, "Man,
09:06 we want this thing to share with people
09:08 that we're talking with."
09:09 And the first one took off
09:11 and the Lord just blessed from there on out.
09:12 That's amazing.
09:13 And there's gotta be a lot of work, you know,
09:15 when you think of documentary,
09:16 like when you watch a documentary,
09:17 I mean, it seems like there's so much
09:19 that goes into something like that.
09:21 It's not necessarily, which I know, you know,
09:23 television and film work in general,
09:25 there's a lot of work that's put into it.
09:26 When you think about a documentary being so precise
09:28 and you know, the flow of thought,
09:30 the flow of how you're gonna...
09:32 So talk a little bit about how much work
09:33 did you have to put into something like that?
09:34 It just seems like such a big task.
09:36 Yeah.
09:37 So we were doing like
09:39 Bible prophecy seminars at the time.
09:40 And so initially we went around
09:42 and we interviewed archeologist scholars
09:45 and all these different people.
09:46 So we interviewed
09:48 the different scholars out there
09:49 and then we had to edit them, but we're doing meetings.
09:52 So during the day
09:53 or during the evening, we're speaking.
09:55 And then I would come home at night
09:56 and I would work almost all night editing.
09:58 And we don't do that anymore. It's super unhealthy.
10:01 I don't suggest anybody doing something like that,
10:04 but we would work literally almost all night.
10:06 And then we would go visit people during the day
10:08 and then do our meetings again at night.
10:10 And it was just really unhealthy,
10:11 but it was a ton of work.
10:12 The editing process is the hardest work,
10:14 you're just meticulously going through
10:16 and you have all these interviews
10:18 and then putting it together in a way that seems coherent.
10:21 Like there really was a storyline
10:23 all the way through,
10:24 even though you just have a bunch of interviews.
10:25 And so, that process
10:28 it's kind of almost mind boggling to me
10:30 while you're doing it.
10:32 It's actually confusing.
10:33 But finally, by the grace of God,
10:34 it all comes together.
10:36 And, you know, we wanted it to be
10:38 something that would both touch people's hearts,
10:41 lead them to Jesus and the truth of God's Word.
10:43 And so, we didn't have
10:45 any previous experience in that,
10:47 we just kind of learned as we went.
10:48 And the beauty is that God only allowed us to see
10:53 what we could handle at the time,
10:55 because if we could see the end from the beginning,
10:56 we would have never been willing to do it.
10:58 Never would we have been like, "Are you kidding me?
11:01 We're not doing that." "That's way too much work."
11:02 "That's way too much work."
11:04 But He just let us see
11:05 what we needed to do right then and there.
11:08 And we stepped forward.
11:09 He gave us the abilities
11:10 and you know, a lot of people ask,
11:13 "Oh, what kind of background did you have?"
11:14 And then Chad says...
11:16 "Well, you know,
11:17 I have probably 19 years in film.
11:20 I used to watch television all the time for 19 years."
11:24 So that was my background.
11:25 And so like not really much of an education in it,
11:28 but you've watched a ton, you know?
11:31 And so, but I mean, there's more than that,
11:32 obviously YouTube teaches you how to do anything, right?
11:36 You can learn how to do anything on there.
11:38 That's amazing.
11:40 Just being here at 3ABN and seeing how much,
11:42 how much work and all of the integral
11:45 different parts of that
11:47 goes into producing something like
11:48 what you're watching right now, you know, many people just see
11:51 and it's like, "Oh, you know, they're sitting in a room
11:52 and there's a camera on them
11:54 and they're just talking and that's all they do.
11:56 They'll have a couple of cameras in the room
11:57 and they just, you know, click a button."
11:59 But there's just so much that goes into it.
12:00 And when I watch your,
12:01 you know Anchor Point Films productions,
12:04 and I see these powerful documentaries,
12:06 it's amazing to see how much work goes into that
12:09 and how much of a blessing I know it has been to me
12:11 and I know it has been to other people.
12:12 And so thank you guys so much for that,
12:15 it's a blessing indeed.
12:16 So you mentioned your ministry, you said you were preaching.
12:18 Yeah.
12:20 Also, you know,
12:21 while you were doing editing or making,
12:23 you know, producing these films.
12:25 Tell us a little bit about your preaching ministry?
12:27 So we would do, we did full time,
12:31 basically Bible prophecy seminars
12:34 for how many years would you say nine years,
12:36 10 years, something like that.
12:38 And then we started doing it part-time
12:39 'cause we were traveling around making the documentaries
12:42 and doing speaking.
12:43 So we traveled around the world.
12:45 Like we said, we've lived in Norway,
12:46 we've lived in Iceland
12:48 and we've traveled around Europe, Africa, and Australia,
12:52 and the United States speaking all over the place.
12:55 But in the midst of that,
12:57 we'd also be, the nice thing was that people
12:59 were asking us to come to speak,
13:01 but because we're already traveling speaking,
13:03 we can interview people.
13:04 So it worked perfectly.
13:06 It's like we had an option to, we're in Australia,
13:08 hey, we're making something on heart disease.
13:10 Well, there's, you know,
13:12 here's a medical professional there we can talk to.
13:13 So it was a mixture of speaking and then it just,
13:16 God brought it all together.
13:18 So we could do the video ministry
13:20 at the very same time.
13:21 That's powerful. Yeah.
13:22 Praise the Lord. Amen.
13:24 You know, I have to plug in here.
13:25 We're gonna toward the end of this program again,
13:27 if you're just now tuning in, don't change the channel.
13:30 Don't turn away because we're talking
13:31 with Chad and Fadia Kruezer
13:33 from Anchor Point Films ministry,
13:35 and you guys have produced
13:36 so much wonderful content,
13:38 documentaries and films that have blessed so many.
13:41 And we're going to tell you how you can get those films
13:44 or how you can get in contact with them
13:46 to get a hold of that content toward the end of this program.
13:48 So stick with us.
13:50 But Chad, I wanna kind of segue now
13:52 into probably what we're gonna spend
13:54 the bulk of our time talking about
13:55 during this program.
13:57 And feel free, if there's anything
13:58 we've left out about Anchor Point Films,
13:59 feel free to clean that up
14:01 and tell us whatever we might have missed.
14:02 But during this time of ministry during,
14:06 while you're preaching,
14:07 while you're doing this film ministry or whatnot,
14:09 you had something that happened in your life,
14:13 something came upon you and that would change you.
14:16 And you have a powerful story of transformation on that.
14:19 Tell us about what happened? Yeah.
14:21 So we were actually living
14:23 in Iceland a beautiful country and it is...
14:27 It's not all icy, right?
14:29 You know, it's funny, that they,
14:30 so what you actually find that is that Greenland is icy.
14:33 Right. And Iceland is green.
14:35 Right.
14:36 So, you know for whatever reason,
14:38 that's the way they're named.
14:39 But although they do get plenty of ice in the winter
14:42 and the wind is very, very intense,
14:44 but it's a very beautiful country.
14:45 Photographers love to go there.
14:47 So we lived there for the better part of a year
14:49 and we ended up getting stomach trouble.
14:52 Fadia did, I did,
14:53 our friend Nathaniel was working with us.
14:55 So we all lost a lot of weight.
14:58 And Fadia and I were, you know, just gone after being,
15:02 I lost like 30 pounds and I wasn't very big before.
15:04 So you lose 30 pounds when you're not very big.
15:06 And we were just ridiculously skinny,
15:09 sunken cheeks
15:10 and but we were eating plenty of food,
15:12 but we had stomach trouble.
15:13 It just wouldn't stay in us very well.
15:15 And with that for the first time in my life
15:19 experienced depression.
15:21 And it was deep, but we kept going forward.
15:24 We kept sharing the love of Jesus with people.
15:27 We did health seminars,
15:28 we did Bible prophecy seminars,
15:30 and we finished our time in Iceland.
15:32 Then we came back to the United States
15:34 and then every year for about at least eight years,
15:37 I would go through at least seasonal depression.
15:40 So the winter, you know, you've probably heard
15:42 of seasonal affective disorder or SAD.
15:45 I would at least have it during the winter months
15:48 and probably some of the summer months,
15:50 and then ended up having the last two years
15:53 I got bit by a tick.
15:54 I think we were out in Tennessee.
15:56 I believe it was and got bit by a tick
15:57 and a doctor friend of mine gave me some prescription
16:00 to take some antibiotics.
16:01 And as a result ended up going into
16:04 two years of just nonstop depression after that.
16:06 So a total of 10 years of depression
16:09 and the depression for me,
16:11 people experience depression differently.
16:13 Some people feel worthless. I didn't feel worthless.
16:15 I always knew God had a purpose and a plan for my life.
16:17 And I believed in God,
16:19 but my depression was mainly terrible guilt.
16:24 I just felt guilty for everything.
16:27 Some of it was legitimate in the sense that you know,
16:30 I had done things in the past.
16:32 And so I paid thousands of dollars
16:33 to try to right the wrongs of the past
16:35 and try to make my life right.
16:37 But none of it would make me feel any better.
16:39 So there was, you know how like you try to make,
16:41 you do something wrong and then you confess your sin.
16:43 You're, "Hey bro, I'm sorry for what I did."
16:45 And then there's a piece that comes
16:46 with it afterward typically.
16:48 Nothing would make me feel any better.
16:50 So it was just this deep, deep guilt.
16:52 And some of it I knew was irrational.
16:54 Like it was just beyond standard,
16:57 like you've done something wrong.
16:59 Like it became so fanatical that like,
17:02 you know, if I went and pinched a peach
17:03 or something at the store,
17:04 'cause I was seeing if it was the,
17:06 you know, if it was ripe,
17:07 I was like, "Oh, I pinched that too hard.
17:08 I have to buy it." Like everything was guilt.
17:10 I just felt guilt.
17:11 And I realized like, and I knew this is irrational.
17:13 This doesn't even make sense. Right.
17:14 So just to add in here,
17:16 was this something that kind of crept in silently
17:18 or was it like flipping on a switch?
17:20 You know, you could like one day
17:22 you were this way and the next day it just came.
17:23 How did that work?
17:24 Probably a little more, probably more gradual,
17:28 but it did all start in Iceland.
17:31 At some point while we were in Iceland
17:32 while we all had this stomach trouble.
17:34 And I think probably all of us
17:36 probably experience it in some form.
17:37 I mean, when you were down, I'm sure.
17:39 Well, we were all down there,
17:41 but then having it, when we were back,
17:43 it was somewhat gradual and it got worse over time.
17:45 I can say that.
17:47 But even in the midst of it,
17:48 I was reading my Bible every day,
17:50 seeking the Lord, trying to make my heart right,
17:52 even though every time I opened the Bible,
17:54 it felt like it was condemning me,
17:56 like a 100% of the time.
17:57 The very first thought I would have in the morning
18:00 was just guilt from the past.
18:02 Like every single day, you'd hope that you'd wake up
18:04 and not have that, but it was there every,
18:07 like almost every waking moment.
18:08 It was just, it was overwhelming and...
18:12 It's amazing. It was so...
18:13 He tried and sorry.
18:15 He tried like, you know, exercising,
18:18 doing whatever he could, you know,
18:20 try doing all the things to help himself.
18:23 And I think that kept him from getting any worse.
18:26 Absolutely.
18:27 You know, I think that kept him being functional
18:30 because I think had he not been
18:31 doing any of those things, you know,
18:33 spending time with Jesus hours in prayer,
18:35 things like that, had he not been doing that,
18:37 I think he would have just been like, you know,
18:40 in his bed all day or something like that.
18:42 But I think because he did all these other things,
18:45 it kept him going,
18:46 it gave him something to live for, you know?
18:50 And he...
18:51 I mean, we kept working,
18:53 we just kept going around the world,
18:54 traveling, teaching people,
18:56 telling people about the love of Jesus
18:57 and righteousness by faith,
18:59 yet I wasn't sensing into my own soul,
19:02 even though I believed it, I could preach it.
19:04 I could give you all the verses from memory.
19:07 I could, you know, I have memorized it
19:08 and I could share that love,
19:10 but in my own heart couldn't sense
19:13 the true love of God, even though,
19:15 just because of the darkness.
19:16 And that's, you know,
19:17 one thing to think about for people that
19:19 just because you don't feel you are saved,
19:23 doesn't mean you're not
19:24 and it doesn't mean that you're lost.
19:25 Absolutely.
19:27 Jesus, as He went to the cross,
19:29 you know, He was, as He's hanging on the cross,
19:31 He says, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken?"
19:33 And He felt as if He could not ever come forth
19:36 from the tomb and yet He did.
19:38 And so Jesus knows what it's like to be depressed.
19:41 He knows what it's like to feel lost.
19:42 And just feeling loss
19:44 is not an evidence necessarily that you are.
19:45 That's a good point
19:47 'cause I was, as you were speaking,
19:48 I'm thinking to myself,
19:49 there's gotta be somebody watching this,
19:51 probably hearing what you're saying,
19:52 or they have this perception in their mind that,
19:54 oh, that person's dealing with depression or anxiety
19:57 or whatever it is that they're dealing with.
19:59 You know, this is a real mental health condition,
20:02 but many of those mental health conditions
20:04 that people deal with, many people perceive them as,
20:06 well, they don't trust in God
20:08 or they don't really have God as their personal savior.
20:10 They don't really know the Lord,
20:12 but if they knew the Lord,
20:13 you know, they were genuine Christians,
20:14 then they wouldn't be dealing with this
20:16 because the Lord would just,
20:17 you know, snuff it out of their life.
20:18 And He would take that away from them.
20:20 Talk a little bit about it.
20:21 I know you spoke a little bit about it,
20:22 but, you know, speak on the fact
20:24 that that's not always the case that it can be more
20:26 there more to the equation than just,
20:28 you know, there's the spiritual,
20:30 it can be physical.
20:31 I appreciate that insight from you
20:32 because that is so true,
20:34 that if a Christian always felt saved,
20:38 then Jesus shouldn't have felt lost.
20:41 He was Christ and Christians are Christ-ians.
20:44 They are people who are like Christ.
20:46 Christ was man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
20:49 So he's acquainted with our human suffering,
20:52 our personal experiences,
20:54 even with that depression, that experience that we have.
20:57 I mean, he's a man of sorrows.
20:58 So having that experience is not a testimony
21:02 that you don't have Jesus.
21:03 When people say that
21:04 there are people out there who act like,
21:06 I mean, we were with a woman
21:07 who she had gone through radiation for cancer
21:10 and distorted part of her face.
21:11 It was very, very difficult for her...
21:13 And she had a trach. She had a trach.
21:15 That she would breathe in,
21:16 and then in the midst of the Bible study
21:18 she'd fall asleep.
21:19 It was a group Bible study and she'd fall asleep.
21:21 And it was just so discouraging.
21:24 And there was a group of people that were with her.
21:27 They were of a certain faith
21:29 that believed if you are with Jesus,
21:31 He will heal all of your problems.
21:33 And so they kept telling her that
21:34 and telling her that and...
21:36 And then every week at the end of the study,
21:37 they'd come around her and pray over her.
21:39 And you know,
21:40 like try to cast it out of her or whatever.
21:42 And our hearts, every week,
21:44 we would just be like, "Oh, Lord, be with this woman."
21:47 And finally, as we got to know her better,
21:49 we opened up to her and shared some scripture
21:53 with her to tell her, you know,
21:55 Paul had something that he cried out to the Lord.
21:59 He begged the Lord to take it from him.
22:01 But in our weakness, he is made strong, right?
22:05 He is uplifted.
22:06 And so we shared that with her and it just brought
22:09 such joy to her heart to know that
22:11 she had faith, you know.
22:13 Just because you're not healed,
22:15 doesn't mean you don't have faith.
22:16 And I remember
22:17 at the very darkest moment of this,
22:20 and once again, she likes, she said,
22:21 I was reading my Bible. I was exercising.
22:23 I was eating a healthy diet. I was getting out in the sun.
22:25 I was doing what I could from the health principles
22:28 to try to get rid of it, but it just wasn't happening.
22:31 And then at the very darkest moment,
22:32 the thought came to me.
22:34 "What if I have to live with this
22:36 for the rest of my life?"
22:38 And then the very next thought was,
22:42 "Then I just accept it."
22:43 Because I know Jesus is the answer.
22:45 And even if I don't, even if I can't sense Him,
22:48 I know He really is the answer.
22:50 And I think I'm actually glad I got to that point.
22:53 And I don't mean, I'm glad I got to the point
22:55 where the thought came,
22:56 what if you're gonna have to suffer with this
22:58 for the rest of your life?
22:59 What if? That is a possibility, right?
23:02 And praise the Lord.
23:04 We finally did find a way out of it,
23:06 but don't give up just because you're suffering
23:10 and you feel guilty or whatever you suffer
23:13 with depression, anxiety, PTSD,
23:16 whatever it may be,
23:17 don't give up just because it seems hopeless.
23:19 And you may have to live this way forever.
23:21 Quick point on this.
23:23 They have surveyed people
23:25 who jumped off the most popular place
23:27 to commit suicide is jumping off
23:28 the Golden Gate Bridge.
23:30 Most people die because the impact is so hard
23:32 from that height that it just, they break their back.
23:34 They can't swim and they die because they broke their back.
23:38 But several people have lived and they've interviewed them.
23:40 And they said, "Did you regret jumping?"
23:43 And they all said, "Yes."
23:46 And then they ask them, "When did you regret it?"
23:48 And they said, "The moment I jumped."
23:50 And so this is the thing the devil may get us
23:52 to in a fit of depression, like, I just wanna end it.
23:57 But if you got on the other side
23:58 a half second on the other side,
24:00 you would regret it.
24:02 So doing these things, they don't fix the problem.
24:05 Jesus can, but even if you have to suffer
24:08 for the rest of your life,
24:09 which by God's grace, I hope you don't.
24:10 And I'm glad that God brought me out of it.
24:13 Don't give up, just don't give up.
24:14 Absolutely.
24:15 And I have to add this, you know again,
24:17 not to uplift you as a person,
24:18 but the fact that it speaks to your faith
24:20 as an individual,
24:21 that you came to that conclusion.
24:23 What if I have to deal with this, the rest of my life?
24:27 There are some people that only serve God
24:29 based on the things that He does for them.
24:30 I think of Job, right?
24:32 Job, you know, just that implied accusation
24:34 that Satan tell, "Oh, you know,
24:36 take away your hedge of protection,
24:37 take away all the goodies
24:39 that you've prospered him with and that you've given to him.
24:41 And then he'll curse you to your face."
24:43 In other words, there's an implied accusation
24:45 there that you Lord in and of yourself are not worthy
24:48 to be worshiped, not worthy to be served
24:50 because he's only serving you
24:51 because of the good things that he's giving you, right?
24:54 And this is a case in point,
24:55 as I'm listening to you, you came to that conclusion,
24:57 Lord, You are worthy for me to spend my life
25:01 serving You and worshiping You.
25:02 Whether You save me or you don't,
25:04 whether You take this away from me or you don't,
25:06 You are still Lord, and that doesn't change.
25:08 That's powerful, brother. That's powerful.
25:10 And even then,
25:11 even when I felt totally guilty, totally lost,
25:14 I thought, well, if other people are saved
25:16 by the ministry that I'm doing, it will be worth it.
25:19 Even though you hope you would be.
25:21 But in this, at that time, I couldn't have any sense
25:24 within my soul that I could be saved
25:25 even though I believe it.
25:26 If you'd say, "Do you believe it?"
25:28 With my head I do, but not with,
25:29 I just don't feel it.
25:31 And so once again, Jesus didn't feel saved.
25:34 Feeling saved is not proof that you are saved
25:37 or not feeling saved is not proof
25:40 that you are not saved.
25:41 We trust even in the midst of if we don't feel it.
25:44 Absolutely.
25:45 I think of Him, like you said, you pointed to Him,
25:46 "My Father, My Father, why have you forsaken me?"
25:49 In Psalm 22, He says, "I'm a worm and no man."
25:52 And it's like, wait a second, Jesus, 12 hours before
25:54 You were just claiming to be the Son of God
25:56 and you know, praising Your Father for Him
25:58 bringing you this far.
25:59 But now it's like, He doesn't know Him, right?
26:01 And so it's powerful to see the Lord,
26:04 the Lord allowed you to go through this experience.
26:06 And it's powerful to also consider the fact that
26:08 you said you were doing
26:09 all that you knew to do at that time.
26:11 You were practicing good health practices.
26:13 You were exercising.
26:15 So you're dealing with this depression.
26:18 And so I just had to ask real quickly.
26:20 I know we're gonna get to how this helped your marriage,
26:22 but how did, I mean, going through this,
26:25 you had said, I think you said she had also dealt maybe
26:28 with a little bit of this, not the same.
26:30 But how did you deal with this
26:31 and the process that he's going through?
26:33 Yeah.
26:34 I was just about to say when he was talking about it,
26:36 that when he would be in this frame of mind,
26:40 it was hard to rationalize with him.
26:43 So let's say he's got
26:45 some guilty thought or some sort.
26:47 And I tell him, well, Chad look at it this way,
26:49 you know?
26:50 And I tell him, I give him a Bible verse
26:53 or something, and then he says, "You just made it worse."
26:56 Like, I feel more guilty. I'd feel more guilty.
26:59 And then let's say I had, you know,
27:01 we'd have our devotions.
27:02 And in the morning I wanted to share with him
27:04 like, look what I saw and this,
27:06 and then I'd make him feel more guilty.
27:08 "You just added another thing
27:09 that I have to think about now."
27:11 And so then it just got me feeling like
27:14 it doesn't matter what I say, he just feels worse.
27:17 And I can't even share my devotions with him
27:19 because he feels guilty all the time.
27:21 And it really, it wears on your marriage,
27:24 you know, it's just like, you start to feel like
27:27 we can't even be close to each other
27:29 because I never know when it's gonna trigger.
27:32 He's just gonna feel worse.
27:34 And then I try to tell him, well, you know,
27:37 maybe if you, and it affected,
27:39 it got to the point where it affected
27:40 our documentary work as well,
27:44 because he started feeling guilty.
27:45 Should I use this? Can I do this, can I do that?
27:47 And we contact lawyers, is this okay?
27:49 Is this legal? And it was just over the top.
27:53 It was just over the top sensitivity.
27:55 It almost seems like with the depression,
27:57 there's a sense, I'm not trying to diagnose you
27:59 or anybody here.
28:00 I'm just 'cause I have family members
28:01 who deal with this OCD, intrusive thoughts.
28:04 And that's essentially, it seems like
28:06 what you were dealing with.
28:07 And I didn't realize it at the time.
28:08 But later on looking back on it,
28:10 I realized it was totally depression
28:12 with probably OCD.
28:13 Not that I'm a medical professional
28:14 stating that, but just from the experience,
28:16 that's what it was like
28:18 continual thoughts on the same lines.
28:20 And I memorized not exaggerating
28:22 at least a thousand verses to try to fill in, you know,
28:25 as to like claim the promises.
28:26 And I did that and I know that was a great blessing to me,
28:30 but it was when you have those continual thoughts,
28:32 it's just, it's a heavy, heavy experience.
28:34 But looking back on it,
28:35 I'm actually glad that I went through it.
28:39 I mean, it sounds crazy
28:40 because for a couple of years, after going through it,
28:42 I would literally get chills
28:44 just thinking back on those times.
28:45 It was so dark
28:47 and it was so terrible that I would like,
28:49 "Whoa, man, that was crazy going through that."
28:51 Like what a, what a difficult experience,
28:53 but I'm just glad the Lord...
28:55 The dark ages. Yeah, the dark ages.
28:57 Your 1,260 years experience, right?
28:59 Wow.
29:00 So, but the fact that we're sitting here
29:03 and you're talking to us,
29:04 you're obviously not in that state of mind.
29:05 Yes.
29:07 There came a time when something happened
29:09 and the Lord began to bring you out of this.
29:12 Tell us how, what was the transition?
29:13 How did you reach the point
29:15 to where things began to change?
29:18 We were working on our health documentary
29:21 and as we were working on our health documentary,
29:23 you know, we thought we were doing things healthy
29:26 and all this other stuff.
29:27 But when you interview
29:29 a lot of health professionals, doctors,
29:33 and all kinds, and that have a wide spectrum
29:36 of what would you call it?
29:38 Practice. Practice and knowledge.
29:41 You start to gain a lot.
29:43 And then we always like
29:46 look into things before we film it.
29:48 And so we're studying a lot more
29:50 and we're actually reading
29:52 a lot of a Spirit of Prophecy on health
29:54 and well, what does she have to say
29:56 about these things, you know?
29:57 Thousands of pages I was reading,
29:59 I was trying to read everything
30:00 that I could find on this because people have their ideas
30:02 and people think
30:03 whatever the internet says about health,
30:05 blogs say about health, that's the truth, right?
30:08 WebMD, you go there and it will tell you the truth.
30:10 And so like, you just look at random people's blogs
30:13 and you have all these ideas, but God has His own standards.
30:17 And then there's real science
30:18 because a lot of things that people say
30:20 aren't even scientific at all,
30:21 but it's popular knowledge on a blog or whatever.
30:24 And so... Yeah.
30:25 So then we were looking into these things
30:27 and Chad also had like gallbladder issues
30:32 and he didn't wanna do the surgery
30:36 because his grandpa, I mean, it's a very,
30:38 it's one of the most simple surgeries,
30:40 but his grandpa actually died from it
30:42 because they nicked his bowels and they didn't know it.
30:44 His grandmas had it,
30:46 his aunts had it, so he had issues.
30:48 And so one of the doctors we were interviewing,
30:51 we were actually staying with her and her family.
30:53 And I was telling her this about Chad's issues.
30:57 He had hypoglycemia and all these different things.
31:00 And she said... Migraines.
31:01 Migraines, yep. And so...
31:04 Sounds like you had the mother load, man.
31:05 He did.
31:07 When I list them out and I say,
31:08 hey, all these things have been changed
31:10 because of this lifestyle change.
31:11 It almost sounds like a bad infomercial,
31:13 like yeah, right.
31:14 Like it could do all that, but it really has.
31:16 That's amazing, brother. Wow.
31:19 Well, that's how God works, right?
31:21 Amen.
31:22 So I'm talking to her about this
31:25 and she says,
31:26 "Look, if Chad wants to save his gallbladder
31:29 and doesn't want to go through surgery,
31:30 he's going to have to go..."
31:32 Change his diet. "Change his diet completely."
31:35 And so she said,
31:37 "Why don't you eat with me while you're here?"
31:40 You know, I'll feed you guys.
31:42 And while you're filming and we were with them
31:44 for a couple of weeks, but within days...
31:48 It started, the pain went away.
31:49 My gallbladder pain went away in a few days.
31:51 And I started having more energy
31:53 than I had ever had.
31:54 Than I had had as a teenager,
31:56 you know, I was 35 at that time.
31:57 And I was like, my body started feeling so good
32:02 that if I had to go grab a book out of my car,
32:05 I would run to the car and not because I was like,
32:08 my body just was functioning so well.
32:10 And I thought, this is incredible.
32:12 And then we were still actually with them.
32:17 Yeah, go ahead. Right.
32:18 But then we came back again.
32:20 So it helped him physically with the gallbladder,
32:24 with the migraines, with the hypoglycemia,
32:26 with the joint pain.
32:27 It helped him in all those areas,
32:29 but he was still depressed.
32:31 And which, it was just like a wow,
32:34 but it's okay, because God was preparing him.
32:37 God was like cleansing his body.
32:39 He was preparing him for what was coming next.
32:41 Because I think if it was flipped around,
32:43 he wouldn't have been prepared for it.
32:45 So you know,
32:46 that's why we need to just trust God
32:48 in every step of the way and never give up trying
32:52 'cause he could have just been like,
32:53 "It didn't help my depression.
32:55 What's the point?"
32:56 But it was like, "I'm gonna keep looking.
32:58 I'm going to keep searching. I'm going to keep trying this."
33:00 And I thank God that he did that
33:02 because, well, you hear
33:04 how it's helped other people, right?
33:05 Anyway, so then he ends up doing that.
33:08 He has all this,
33:10 but the depression is still there.
33:11 We come back to their house another time
33:13 and we were watching something and he heard a quote.
33:16 And this quote, it sounded kind of extreme.
33:20 But I was, if you would have told me,
33:22 Chad, the trick to getting over your depression
33:24 is standing on your head for two hours a week
33:26 or two hours a day, I would have done it.
33:28 I'd have been like, "Hey, whatever, you know,
33:29 I'll do whatever."
33:30 You know, at that point you've gone through this for so long.
33:32 Right.
33:33 But we heard this quotation that said,
33:36 you know, we're coming to the time
33:37 when recipes for cooking
33:38 will not be needed for the food.
33:40 God gave Adam in his sinless state
33:42 is best for keeping the body in a sinless state.
33:45 And I thought, wow, that's such a strange thought.
33:46 And then there's this other quote
33:48 that talks about in many cases of sickness,
33:51 this is a quote in many cases of sickness,
33:53 the very best remedy is for the patient
33:55 to fast for a meal or two
33:58 that the overworked organs of digestion
34:00 may have an opportunity to rest.
34:02 Then a fruit diet for a few days
34:06 has often brought great relief to brain workers.
34:10 And then it goes on to say,
34:11 and then on a STEMIs or a simple diet
34:13 for a month or two will reveal to many that
34:16 the path of self denial is the path to health.
34:20 So I went on a very simple diet for a time.
34:23 Okay. For a time.
34:24 And I, this is so to back up a little bit,
34:28 they've done research and I didn't know about it.
34:30 I tried it.
34:31 I was like, okay, so I'll eat a fruit diet for a time.
34:33 And then I'll start transitioning
34:35 back to a simple diet
34:36 for a month or two, or, you know,
34:38 kind of something along these lines.
34:39 So within it was January,
34:41 which is the roughest time of year
34:43 if you're having seasonal depression,
34:44 although mine was chronic by this point.
34:46 So it wasn't even seasonal, but January is about the worst
34:48 it is normally for somebody if they have that.
34:51 And then I began to eat a fruit diet
34:53 for a number of days.
34:55 And within two weeks, my depression began to go away.
34:58 For the first time in two years,
35:01 even though I had a 10 years off and on,
35:02 but the last two years solid
35:04 that for the first time in two years,
35:06 I could choose where I focus my thoughts.
35:09 Instead of having them
35:10 constantly go back to these things.
35:12 And as I did, I thought, man, this is interesting.
35:15 I didn't say anything to Fadia because it was like,
35:17 "Ah, maybe it's just a good day or something like that."
35:20 But then it got better and better and better.
35:22 And then I mean,
35:24 we can't really fill in all that
35:26 we did within a very short show to explain it all.
35:29 But we, what ended up happening was we thought,
35:32 why did this work?
35:34 Why did this make such a difference in my life?
35:36 Then I began to look at the research.
35:37 I love science and going
35:38 right to the scientific research,
35:40 going to the scientific journals,
35:41 began to study
35:43 what's called the gut brain connection.
35:46 And researchers are finding that many of the things
35:50 that can take place within our gut, bacteria,
35:53 various things what's going on in the gut
35:55 can actually positively
35:57 or negatively affect your mental state.
36:00 And so as my gut began to heal, remember, you know,
36:04 10 years before that in Iceland,
36:05 I had had this stomach trouble.
36:07 And so here I was still struggling with it.
36:09 When my gut healed,
36:11 my brain ended up actually healing at that point.
36:14 As we studied that out,
36:15 we then began to present it around the world.
36:18 The first place we presented,
36:19 it was in London or New England.
36:22 And while we were there
36:23 and then it just kind of began to take off
36:25 and we began to make a series
36:27 called simply the gut brain connection.
36:29 Showing the research studies on the various things
36:31 we can do to have a healthy gut.
36:33 And even in that area,
36:35 people come up with all kinds of things.
36:36 You'll hear on like,
36:38 "Oh, for the gut brain connection, use this."
36:39 And you're like, "No,
36:41 the research actually says don't use that."
36:42 You know?
36:43 And so the point is, but we were given a standard.
36:47 We were told long ago, all the research,
36:50 almost all the research before it ever came out.
36:52 And now the scientific studies sound like
36:54 they're actually quoting these wonderful messages
36:57 that we were given over a hundred years ago.
36:59 It literally just changed my life.
37:01 And I'm so thankful that I went through it
37:05 because I wouldn't have been willing to do this
37:10 if I hadn't gone through so much suffering for so long.
37:13 So all of this stemmed from a quote that you found,
37:16 I guess, was it Ministry of Healing?
37:18 Ministry of Healing is one of them.
37:19 Yes.
37:21 And another one's Manuscript Releases.
37:22 And to think that this information
37:25 was given by God,
37:27 to someone over a hundred years ago,
37:30 back in the late 1800s.
37:31 And it sounded like quackery back then.
37:33 Actually it sounded like quackery 20 years ago
37:36 until the research came out and showed like,
37:38 no, no, no, no, no, that's cutting edge.
37:40 So some of that stuff that like people read
37:42 and they're like, "Yeah, I wish that wasn't written."
37:44 You know, it turns out no, it was just before its time.
37:47 When the research comes out
37:48 it is literally life-changing science.
37:50 That's amazing. Okay. So let's talk with this.
37:52 I know we don't have
37:53 a lot of time to get into details,
37:54 but give us kind of a quick synoptic
37:57 kind of juiced version of the diet
37:59 that you kind of went through
38:01 in order to get from point A to point B?
38:02 Yes.
38:04 So one of the things that I tried,
38:05 which didn't totally work for me,
38:06 but there's something
38:08 called the elimination challenge diet.
38:09 And you know, when you give out our,
38:12 I can send it to people for free.
38:14 It's basically a list of things to eat
38:17 and a list of things to avoid.
38:18 Many of the things to avoid are actually good foods,
38:21 but there's some of the most common allergens.
38:23 And so it's a temporary diet to find out
38:25 what may be troubling your stomach.
38:28 And it could be something totally healthy,
38:29 like some people are allergic to apples.
38:31 Right.
38:32 That doesn't mean apples are bad.
38:33 They're great fruit, but if you're allergic to them,
38:35 well, they're bad for you, right?
38:37 And so part of it is finding the offending foods
38:40 for your personal body
38:41 is an important issue for people.
38:43 And so that's one aspect.
38:46 I tried that didn't really actually work for me,
38:49 but a simple diet once again.
38:51 So this will sound crazy,
38:54 but I have, I actually have a video
38:55 on YouTube about it,
38:56 the research on how certain spices
39:00 can actually negatively impact the lining of the gut.
39:04 And as they negatively impact the lining of the gut,
39:07 they can actually cause inflammation
39:08 and they have something called IED.
39:14 And what that is intermittent explosive disorder,
39:19 where someone's just furious and angry,
39:21 and certain food
39:23 can actually potentially that inflammation in the gut
39:26 may actually promote people's anger problems,
39:29 their anxiety, their depression,
39:31 these things, though, they may have high levels
39:33 of antioxidants in those spices,
39:35 they can also increase
39:36 the chances that you have this inflammation
39:38 in your gut, even though
39:40 there is strangely enough anti-inflammatory foods,
39:43 they can cause inflammation to the gut.
39:44 And as they do that,
39:46 I don't want to get too technical,
39:47 but they can cause things to actually pass through
39:49 undigested proteins and bacteria
39:51 to pass through the lining of your intestines,
39:54 right into the bloodstream and cause inflammation
39:56 in the rest of the body
39:58 and inflammation affects things like diabetes, cancer,
40:01 heart disease
40:02 and all of these different things.
40:04 And so... And depression.
40:05 Is this something, is this what they call leaky gut,
40:07 or somebody got some leaky gut...
40:09 It is what they call leaky gut.
40:10 And I know for some time doctors
40:11 didn't think it was a reality,
40:13 but now there's study after study,
40:14 after study research
40:16 and in peer reviewed scientific journals
40:17 that reveal that this is a legitimate issue.
40:19 And so certain foods can increase your likelihood
40:22 of having leaky gut,
40:23 that things pass through into the bloodstream.
40:25 And so as I get rid of those and by the way,
40:30 it doesn't go away in a day.
40:32 Just like, for instance,
40:34 if you cut yourself on your arm,
40:35 does the inflammation, the redness, the swelling,
40:38 if you're actually cut, does the...
40:39 You wake up the next day and well, no more cut.
40:42 No, it takes days and days to finally heal.
40:44 So too with the gut that is, we eat these foods.
40:46 They may not affect us the day of,
40:50 it actually may take time for it to move through the,
40:52 you know, intestines.
40:54 And finally they caused that inflammation.
40:56 And also you think, well, I don't see a difference
40:58 when I eat those spicy foods today
41:00 and tomorrow
41:02 I'm just the same way I was yesterday.
41:03 So we did a test of avoiding spices
41:07 to just to test it.
41:09 'Cause we didn't know which ones would do it.
41:10 So we decided we were gonna go
41:12 a whole month without any spices,
41:15 just to see what would, and by the way,
41:16 someone might be thinking like,
41:18 what does this guy know about spicy food?
41:19 Like what does he know?
41:21 I mean, we would eat things like habanero
41:24 and habanero makes a jalapeno seem like a carrot, right?
41:27 Like, I mean, it's just like habaneros just like,
41:29 boom in spices.
41:31 On another level of heat.
41:32 It's a whole new, I loved any kind of,
41:33 you know, like Indian food,
41:35 Thai food, all these, I loved all this.
41:36 So I'm sometimes...
41:38 We had Thai food at our wedding.
41:39 Yeah, Thai food at our wedding. We love spicy food.
41:41 We've been around the world, you know, but we decided,
41:43 hey, we're gonna see what happens
41:45 if we avoid spicy food for a month.
41:47 And just to be honest, I wish this weren't,
41:50 but I'm going to tell you weren't true.
41:51 But my wife and I,
41:53 we struggled with arguing all the time
41:55 in our marriage all the time.
41:57 And we didn't want to,
41:59 we're reading our Bibles every day.
42:00 We say every night before bed,
42:02 "Hey, I'm sorry for doing that."
42:04 And we'd apologize.
42:05 We pray and we did not wanna do it the next day,
42:07 but we would do it.
42:08 And like over and over and over.
42:10 And I hated it. I hated doing that.
42:12 And a lot of times as wives,
42:14 we want to please our husbands and we cook, right?
42:16 And so he tends to like, "Oh, that was really good."
42:20 So you do it more and you do it more
42:22 and you don't realize you're making him sick.
42:25 You know, it's just like, you're pleasing his tongue,
42:27 but you're making him absolutely sick.
42:29 And so then his sickness turns around
42:30 and hurts you then, right?
42:32 And so, it's a temptation as women,
42:35 but I think, you know,
42:38 keeping it simple ends up being such a blessing.
42:42 It's like such a blessing.
42:43 I mean, I'd never go back to that
42:45 because Chad always says it
42:47 when somebody says, well, don't you ever feel like
42:49 he's like, I'd rather have to have it.
42:50 Don't you miss this food or whatever?
42:51 Yeah.
42:53 So there's people, I just have to jump here
42:54 and add this, there's people
42:55 that's going to be watching and think, wait a second.
42:57 But a habanero is a plant,
42:58 you know, God created it and it's,
43:00 you know, we can eat these types of things, right?
43:02 So what I hear you saying, when you say spices,
43:04 you're not necessarily talking about like,
43:05 you know, onion powder, garlic powder,
43:07 or maybe you are, I don't know,
43:08 clarify what you mean by spices?
43:10 So I can't tell you exactly which ones will impact you,
43:14 but so I'll tell you what happened.
43:15 And then this will give a little idea.
43:17 So we got rid of all spices for one month.
43:20 And the next day we argued just as much as the day before.
43:24 And the next day we did too
43:26 and the day after that, but I don't remember it.
43:28 We don't know exactly when it was,
43:30 but it was like seven to 14 days.
43:32 Within a week to two weeks, we started to calm down.
43:35 We started to become more patient with each other,
43:37 more loving,
43:38 the things that formerly would make us angry,
43:40 we would maybe chuckle out, and our relationship got better
43:43 and better and better for a month.
43:45 And so we didn't stop at a month.
43:47 We went to two months and then we had some folks who,
43:51 from another country or, you know, different background.
43:52 And they're like,
43:54 "Hey, you want to go out eat with us."
43:55 And you know, we like to have good time with people.
43:56 So we went out and it was a very, very spicy restaurant
43:59 and I loved it.
44:01 It was really good. It was super tasty.
44:03 And the day after the day we ate it, nothing changed.
44:06 We were the exact same. We were happy.
44:09 And the next day I spoke totally rude to Fadia.
44:11 The next morning even.
44:12 The next morning I spoke totally rude to her.
44:14 She had something with someone that
44:16 she got frustrated and she didn't say anything.
44:18 She held it in like a good Christian,
44:20 hold it in and get angry in your heart.
44:21 Well, no one was there to do anything,
44:24 but I get so angry that
44:28 I didn't know what to do with it.
44:29 And I started to cry because I was just like,
44:31 "Lord, why can't I just sit
44:34 and think through and like rationalize this."
44:37 And I couldn't, I was just so angry.
44:39 I got on my knees and cried and like,
44:41 Lord, help me take this away.
44:42 I don't understand these feelings.
44:44 And I was like, I gotta go to church, you know?
44:47 And so then that happened.
44:48 And then later on,
44:50 I relayed this to him and I said,
44:51 do you know what happened to me today?
44:52 And then he was rude again.
44:54 And then I said, what's wrong with you?
44:57 Why are you acting like this?
44:58 And then he put the two and two together,
45:00 the way he's acting, the way I'm acting.
45:02 And I said, "That spicy food we ate?
45:05 That's what he said. I said, "We knew it."
45:07 And I said, "You know we ate yesterday, right?"
45:08 And she said, "No." And I said, yeah,
45:11 I think so now this is a nice anecdotal story.
45:13 But we have tried this over and over and over
45:15 with near a 100% correlation in our lives.
45:18 And then as we traveled in the world,
45:20 talking to people about it and showing the research,
45:22 we have had people contact us after hearing it
45:24 and implementing these things.
45:26 So I can't say exactly what it is,
45:28 but doing these
45:29 kind of elimination diets for a time,
45:31 you eliminate them.
45:33 And then you, if you try it again
45:34 and you see an effect within the next few days,
45:36 you can see, oh, that is actually impacting.
45:38 We noticed that it helped us with levels of lust,
45:41 levels of anger, uh, anxiety and depression,
45:44 literally it changed our lives.
45:46 And so that's part of it also eating a very simple
45:49 plant-based diet.
45:50 What's called a whole food diet.
45:52 So that means not refined simple foods,
45:54 but a whole food diet in general,
45:56 that's our lifestyle.
45:57 And as we did that, we cooked food.
46:00 It's not that we don't eat cooked food,
46:01 but it's non refined cooked food generally.
46:03 And so it began to just settle us down
46:06 and it changed our lives.
46:08 And then the Lord opened the door
46:09 for having a ministry,
46:11 teaching people about these things.
46:12 And so, that's one of the things
46:13 we do is travel around teaching people,
46:15 because we wanna see,
46:16 I want other people to have happy marriages, happy.
46:19 You know, some parents may be literally,
46:21 they may be abusive because they have stuff
46:24 going on in their head
46:25 because of what's actually going on in their gut.
46:27 I mean, it's amazing. That's amazing.
46:29 So we have about five minutes
46:30 before we go to the address roll.
46:31 If you're just now joining us in the last part,
46:33 we're talking with Chad and Fadia Kruezer
46:35 from Anchor Point Films,
46:36 and God has transformed their life.
46:39 Chad having gone through a series of serious depression
46:43 and just by simply doing an elimination diet,
46:46 the gut brain connection, you changed your gut health.
46:49 It helped your brain health.
46:50 You no longer suffer from anxiety and depression
46:53 and all these things that you were dealing with.
46:55 It's helped your marriage. That's powerful.
46:57 It's changed your outlook on marriage
46:59 and to be around each other.
47:01 And so now God is using you.
47:02 We have about almost five minutes,
47:04 a little over,
47:05 a little less than five minutes here.
47:07 Let's talk about how God is using you to share this
47:08 and to help others with this information
47:10 that God has shared with you?
47:12 So we began to,
47:14 I shared it the first time Fadia was praying
47:16 because anybody who's been through depression,
47:18 it's kind of an embarrassing thing.
47:20 You know, it's like, you feel like
47:21 I don't wanna tell people that I've been depressed.
47:23 You know, even though I was terribly depressed,
47:25 you try to just cover it up.
47:26 But she was praying.
47:28 I was speaking on some of the research behind it
47:30 and it was, you know, I mean,
47:32 there were quite a few people there
47:33 and she's praying.
47:34 She's like, God help him to share his testimony on it.
47:36 And the Lord broke through the stubborn old me
47:39 and I shared my testimony.
47:40 We're in England, Northern England
47:42 for, at that time.
47:43 And as I shared that testimony,
47:45 I realized that it touched people's hearts way
47:47 more than the research.
47:49 The research is powerful, but a personal testimony,
47:52 when you hear a personal testimony,
47:53 you think, "Hey, if that worked for you,
47:54 maybe it could work for me."
47:56 That's right.
47:57 And like, we would rather not tell people about
47:59 all our arguing and those kinds of things.
48:01 I'd rather be like, "Oh, we've lived
48:02 a really perfect life together."
48:04 But there's somebody watching right now
48:05 that's going,
48:06 hey, you're looking at their wife or their husband.
48:08 We argue all the time.
48:09 Maybe we should try this diet, right?
48:10 Yeah.
48:12 And I say like, listen, it is worth trying.
48:15 What if it works?
48:16 I mean like, what if you can live
48:18 a happier life for the rest of your life?
48:19 I mean, I believe depression is,
48:21 there are other aspects.
48:22 Like we said, exercise, sunlight, you know, rest,
48:25 getting away from drugs.
48:26 All of these things are important too,
48:28 but I was doing those.
48:29 So somebody else may be struggling with
48:30 some of the other issues
48:32 and that's causing their depression.
48:33 But the thing that I was struggling
48:34 with was the gut issue.
48:36 And a lot of people have gut issues these days.
48:37 Oh, for sure. I mean, tons of people.
48:39 And in part, because of all the craziness,
48:41 that's in the food chain, it's not the right word,
48:43 but in the stores, you know,
48:44 in the grocery stores on the shelves.
48:46 And so learning to do these things,
48:47 it changed my life.
48:48 And as we were sharing these things with people,
48:50 we wanted to do kind of like
48:51 a YouTube channel to teach people.
48:54 Yeah, go on. But before we do that.
48:55 We were praying, we were asking the Lord,
48:58 "Lord, if You really want us to share these things,
49:00 and this is all legitimate, it's not just our thing.
49:03 Then You open doors."
49:05 And we specifically asked for some doors to be opened
49:09 within the medical sphere.
49:12 Like medical professionals and things like that,
49:14 just to legitimize it, you know,
49:16 like if this is legitimate.
49:19 Science and all of that, then you do that.
49:21 And in short order, we got call after call on,
49:24 "Oh, come to this medical conference
49:29 or something, come speak at this,
49:30 come speak at that."
49:32 And it's just like one after another people
49:34 wanted to have us come speak on the gut brain connection.
49:36 And we had hardly told anybody about it,
49:39 but enough had heard that
49:41 they started to have us come out for that.
49:43 And then Chad was able to share his testimony,
49:47 which made an impact on people.
49:49 You wouldn't believe
49:50 how many people have contacted us and said,
49:52 "This has been such a blessing for me."
49:54 And how it's changed their lives.
49:56 You know, we even had doctors
49:58 come and tell us how it changed their lives.
50:00 Absolutely.
50:01 And so, as we were doing it
50:03 then COVID hit and long story short,
50:06 we couldn't travel anymore
50:08 because not because we weren't willing,
50:09 but because everything shut down.
50:11 And so as it all shut down the door opened too,
50:13 we thought, man,
50:15 we still wanna share with people.
50:16 And the Lord opened the door.
50:17 We live out in the country and we started a ministry
50:19 on YouTube called Health and Homestead.
50:22 People just look up Health and Homestead.
50:25 We have some of the things that we've just talked about
50:27 here on that,
50:28 a little bit of the gut brain connection.
50:30 And we'll have more coming out in the future,
50:31 but sharing with people around the world now
50:35 simply even though we still travel now,
50:37 'cause things are opening up again,
50:38 but being able to share with people both
50:40 about the blessings of spending time in the country
50:42 about health and also about how they can be healthier,
50:47 happier people that the health message
50:49 we're told.
50:50 One of the reasons
50:51 we were given the health message
50:53 was to make us happy.
50:55 A lot of times we're afraid of it.
50:56 I know I was,
50:57 when this doctor told me you know,
50:59 to change my lifestyle,
51:00 I didn't want to 'cause we were like,
51:01 "Ah, no, I like what I'm doing."
51:03 Right. But it changed my life.
51:04 That's amazing. Praise the Lord.
51:07 It's just like to pray for that
51:09 clock to give us some more time, right?
51:11 There's just so much to talk about
51:12 and so little time to do it.
51:14 You guys have been such a blessing.
51:15 We're not quite finished yet, but we're gonna actually go to
51:19 an address roll in just a moment.
51:21 If you wanna know how to get a hold of
51:22 Chad and Fadia and Anchor Point Films
51:26 and their ministry,
51:27 you want to know more about Health and Homestead.
51:28 We're going to give you an address roll
51:30 here in just a moment.
51:32 And so don't go anywhere, we're going to come back
51:33 on the other side of this address roll
51:35 and tie up this interview.
51:37 But this is important, as you have heard the story,
51:40 it works it's proof.
51:42 And so here's how you can contact them
51:45 through Anchor Point Films Ministry.
51:50 If you would like to reach or to know more about
51:52 Anchor Point Films, you can contact them
51:55 at (708) 285-5433.
51:59 That's (708) 285-5433.
52:03 You can also mail them at PO Box 960,
52:07 White Cloud, Missouri 49349.
52:10 You can also visit their website,
52:12 anchorpointfilms.com.
52:14 That's anchorpointfilms.com.
52:17 You can also email them at anchorpointfilms@gmail.com.


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