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00:03 we're living in unprecedented times. 00:05 Join us now for Today special program. 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Mending broken people 00:23 I want to spend my life 00:29 Removing pain 00:34 Lord, let my words 00:39 Heal a heart that hurts 00:44 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 00:55 I want to spend my life 01:00 Mending broken people 01:15 Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:17 I'm your host, Yvonne Shelton, 01:19 and we have an amazing program for you today. 01:23 I'm so excited about it 01:24 because you are going to get some life changing information. 01:29 Our guest is Dr.Helen Stoddart. 01:31 And she is the physician owner 01:33 of the Pain 2 Wellness Healthcare Center 01:36 in Madison, Alabama. 01:38 And she is going to talk to us today 01:40 about diabetes and how to reverse it, 01:43 how to manage it, reverse it, 01:46 we're going to get some great information. 01:47 So pick up a pad, a pen, get ready to take some notes, 01:52 call family members, friends, anybody you know, 01:55 that is dealing with this condition 01:57 because there's going to be 01:58 some information that you are going to be 02:01 able to apply to your life. 02:03 So thank you for joining us and today 02:05 we have some amazing music. 02:07 We have Ginger Pitchers, accompanied by Tim Parton, 02:12 and she's going to sing "Surely Goodness and Mercy." 02:22 Surely, goodness and mercy 02:25 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 02:30 Surely, goodness and mercy 02:34 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 02:38 The goodness and the mercies of the Lord my God 02:42 Are right behind me every step I trod 02:47 Surely, goodness and mercy 02:50 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 02:54 The Lord is my shepherd a comfort to my soul 02:58 When I lose direction 03:00 I trust the one who knows 03:03 Through pastures and valleys restoring my faith 03:07 Guiding my steps for the glory of his name 03:11 My cup runneith over my strength is renewed 03:15 Shout hallelujah 03:17 There's nothing that he can't do 03:19 Surely, goodness and mercy 03:22 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 03:27 God said it, and I heard it 03:29 It's settle in my mind 03:31 Every day I walk with Jesus new mercies I find 03:35 I follow the leader and his spirit follows me 03:39 Protecting my soul from what I cannot see 03:43 He goes before me and He walks beside me 03:47 Great God Almighty 03:49 I've got angels all around me 03:51 Surely, goodness and mercy 03:55 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 03:59 Surely goodness and mercy 04:03 Are gonna follow me eternally 04:07 And I will dwell in the house Of the lord 04:11 Forever and ever and ever more 04:17 Surely, goodness and mercy 04:20 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 04:25 Surely, goodness and mercy 04:28 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 04:32 The goodness and the mercies of the Lord my God 04:36 Are right behind me every step I trod 04:41 Surely, goodness and mercy 04:44 Is gonna follow me everywhere I go 04:47 Let's tag it. 04:49 Surely, goodness and mercy 04:52 Is gonna follow me everywhere 04:56 I go 05:07 Surely, goodness and mercy will follow me everywhere I go. 05:12 That is so true 05:13 because the Lord is so gracious to us. 05:16 And His goodness and His mercy follows us 05:20 everywhere we go. 05:22 Keep that in your hearts today. 05:24 Well, we have a wonderful guest, 05:27 Dr. Helen Stoddart, 05:29 and she is a personal friend, 05:32 and I so respect her. 05:35 As a medical practitioner, 05:37 she has helped me and my family in certain ways. 05:41 And I'm just very thankful for her. 05:43 So thank you, Dr. Helen, for being with us today. 05:47 Thank you so much for having me. 05:50 I'm so excited to be here. 05:51 And you know, 05:52 I'm excited to be talking to you. 05:54 Thank you. It's mutualized, are you? 05:57 You know, you... 05:59 First of all, you have had 06:01 a very interesting personal journey. 06:03 And when I read your book, 06:06 and we're going to talk more about your book, 06:08 but when I read your book, 06:10 I realized that medicine 06:12 is not just a profession for you. 06:15 Medicine is your calling. 06:17 And you have a personal connection 06:20 with what you're doing. 06:22 Tell us a little bit about your journey? 06:24 Well, I can tell you that my mom told me 06:28 when I was a little girl, 06:29 that I saw a little boy 06:33 who we used the term crippled at the time, 06:35 but we would call disabled now 06:38 who was walking 06:39 across the street downtown and out 06:41 and he was holding his mom's hand 06:42 and I was holding my mom's hand and I told her, 06:45 I said, "Mom, when I grow up, 06:46 I want to help people just like that." 06:48 And I didn't remember that until I went to medical school. 06:53 And my mother told me, 06:54 that's what you said you were going to do. 06:56 And, you know, it's just amazing to me 06:58 how God remembers your dreams longer than you do. 07:01 Yeah. 07:03 And so I was able to realize that dream 07:05 and become a physician, 07:07 because I just love helping people. 07:09 And it shows, it really shows 07:11 in the way you deal with people 07:13 and the way you interact with them. 07:16 What made you decide 07:19 to write this book about diabetes? 07:22 Because we need to talk about diabetes. 07:24 But what made you decide to write this particular book? 07:28 Well, I'm gonna say this without crying. 07:35 But my mom developed type 2 diabetes, 07:38 probably when I was in elementary 07:41 or grade school. 07:43 And I remember Dr. Kerry, 07:48 who was her doctor told her that she has a little sugar. 07:52 And at the time, nobody really knew 07:55 what diabetes could do. 07:58 They just said she had a little, a little sugar. 08:00 So in her mind, I don't think that 08:02 it registered to her what that actually means. 08:05 Yes. 08:06 And it didn't resonate with the rest of my family. 08:09 I'm one of eight children, and my mom and dad. 08:12 And I just remember being a little girl 08:14 and she reaching for something 08:16 that I felt she shouldn't eat. 08:19 But everybody else said, oh, it's just a little, 08:22 or it's just a little and, 08:25 you know, I'm like next to the baby. 08:27 So nobody listens to the baby, you know, 08:30 when you're talking about that. 08:31 It's just something that she wanted to eat. 08:33 But somehow in my childhood mind, 08:36 I recognized that 08:37 this was something she should avoid. 08:40 And it wasn't until much later 08:43 that I was able to say the reasons 08:45 why she should avoid it. 08:46 But unfortunately, it came a little late, 08:50 because my mom as diabetes does, 08:54 being a progressive 08:56 and chronic disease, it progressed. 08:58 And it caused a lot of different problems in her, 09:01 she developed high blood pressure. 09:03 She had high cholesterol, 09:06 she developed congestive heart failure. 09:08 She started having 09:09 some compromises in her kidneys. 09:12 I mean, all of those things were happening 09:14 while I was in college, 09:17 learning about just basics biology. 09:20 And then, then I went to medical school 09:23 and in medical school, 09:25 while I'm learning about the heart, 09:28 she was having heart conditions and boy was that 09:32 like the toughest time for me. 09:34 I remember my attending professor, 09:39 I went to him, he was a cardiologist, 09:41 and I told him, I said, 09:42 "My mom has high blood pressure. 09:44 She has high cholesterol. 09:46 She has congestive heart failure. 09:48 And I'm just wondering, what is that? 09:50 Is there something that we can do?" 09:52 And he said, not trying to, 09:56 it wasn't in a way that 09:58 he was trying to hurt me or anything like that. 10:00 But he was very honest 10:01 and very straightforward with me. 10:03 And he said, "Your mother is going to die." 10:06 And man, whoa... 10:09 That really got me. 10:13 Yes. 10:14 And it's very interesting that just a little bit after that. 10:20 I got a call that said, 10:23 my mom had coded 10:26 and I will never forget it 10:30 because I was in California. 10:33 And my mom was in Indiana 10:35 and because she was a worrywart. 10:38 She didn't, you know, I didn't want her to know that 10:39 I was traveling to California. 10:42 And I just wanted to go there and come back 10:44 before she knew anything. 10:46 And while I was there, 10:48 I actually had a layover in Illinois, 10:51 and I didn't call her and that's probably the thing 10:53 that that haunts me the most, 10:56 is that I didn't call her from Chicago. 10:58 I just didn't want her to know I was there. 10:59 Yeah. 11:01 And then went to California, 11:02 hung out with my girlfriend Lillian, 11:03 we were at her mom's house, and we were just, 11:06 we just had a good time gone to the beach. 11:08 And, you know, people watching then we came back to her house. 11:11 And then my friend and my sister gave me a call 11:15 at her house and I answered the phone. 11:18 And what I remember was looking at the phone in disbelief, 11:21 dropping the phone 11:23 and screaming to the top of my lungs. 11:25 And her mom and Lillian rushed to me, 11:28 because they knew with that kind of screech, 11:31 there had to be something wrong. 11:33 And I just remember saying, God, 11:37 why my mother, you know, and... 11:42 So. Yeah. 11:44 So Lillian made all the arrangements for me 11:47 to go home. 11:49 And I got on a flight. 11:51 She didn't even remember all of that. 11:53 And I told her later, 11:54 how important that was to me 11:56 that she made all the reservations. 11:58 She got me back home. 12:00 And all I could think about what was going on, 12:03 what was going on. 12:04 And it was the most difficult thing. 12:08 That was the hardest thing for me to deal with. 12:10 With that call your mother had passed, 12:13 or she was dying with that call? 12:15 Well, on that call, she had died. 12:21 We had gotten a call in November. 12:26 That was in July. 12:28 But the November before that, 12:31 she had, we had gotten a call that she had coded. 12:36 And she made it through, it was very interesting. 12:39 Because she, it gave us an opportunity 12:42 to go home and see her, there were three of us in DC. 12:46 My sister Lacadia, my sister Anita, 12:48 and then I was there. 12:50 And we hopped in the car. 12:51 And I remember there was a blizzard, you know, 12:53 Chicago's always got some, some bad weather in November. 12:57 So you got to worry about that. 12:59 And so she... 13:01 We got in a car, and we traveled back 13:03 and it was so quiet in the car. 13:05 Because I think all of us 13:06 were thinking kind of the same thing. 13:07 And we were praying and just kind of hoping 13:09 and we got to the hospital and it's so interesting. 13:13 My mother told us that she had had a dream that 13:17 that she that we had come and when she saw us, 13:22 we came in the same order as her dream, 13:25 which was very interesting. 13:27 And she told us, 13:29 and this is a very interesting story. 13:32 My mom was an amazing Christian woman, 13:35 amazing Christian woman, 13:37 like I want my life to be like hers. 13:39 Yes. And she had said that. 13:44 She felt like God was talking to her. 13:51 And she remembered saying to Him, 13:54 I want to see your face. 13:56 And He said no Annie, you can't see my face 13:59 because nobody has ever seen me 14:02 and lived and your children are not ready. 14:05 And when she woke up from her unconsciousness, 14:09 she told us that dream 14:12 and that we had walked in the room 14:13 in the same order that she had dreamt. 14:16 And I was just so happy that she had made it through. 14:20 And, you know, I was studying. 14:22 So I had my books in her room with her 14:24 because I didn't want to leave her side. 14:26 And I just, I was just studying because I'm in medical school. 14:28 Yeah. 14:30 And I'm studying and I'm watching her 14:31 and she didn't want to go to sleep 14:33 because she was afraid to go to sleep. 14:34 And then I'm like, mom, but you really need some rest. 14:36 Please go to sleep 14:38 and she didn't want to go to sleep. 14:39 It was just, 14:40 it was just a really difficult time. 14:42 But I'm so grateful 14:44 because God does give you what you need. 14:47 And He did give us more time. 14:51 And that more time really made a big difference. 14:53 I mean, like I remember being in there, 14:56 we back home one more time for the holidays. 15:00 And I remember being there with her and taking pictures. 15:03 And I remember the outfit she had on, 15:06 I remember the smell of her hands. 15:08 I remember just her sitting on the sofa telling us, 15:12 she loves me or telling us that 15:15 she loves us and me, you know, 15:16 all of us expressing I mean, it was just, a just. 15:20 It was just a time that that was difficult. 15:27 It was difficult. 15:28 And, I remember getting in the car 15:30 and going back to DC. 15:32 And thinking in my mind, 15:34 this is probably the last time I'll see you. 15:38 And it was. 15:42 That song is... 15:43 Oh, you all know how I cry, right? 15:47 I didn't mean that, I was explaining. 15:48 No, no, no, no. 15:50 But honestly, that's so beautiful 15:52 because again, it shows several things. 15:56 Number one, it shows the legacy that your mother left you. 16:00 Number two. 16:02 Let's start again. 16:03 Number one, it shows how merciful God is. 16:05 Yes. 16:07 By allowing her to have more time with you. 16:09 Yes. Because sometimes we need... 16:14 In my own case with my mother, I needed more time too 16:18 and the Lord gave us a bit more time and so, 16:22 that's such a blessing. 16:23 Some people don't have more time. 16:26 But in this case, the Lord gave me more time. 16:29 And that's a blessing. 16:30 Number two, the legacy that your mother left. 16:34 And number three, 16:35 the calling on you with medicine 16:40 and now it's personal. 16:43 Now, it's something that, 16:45 you know, you have this passion for, 16:49 because you want to help other people. 16:51 And because you've gone through 16:54 this kind of situation yourself, 16:56 and so, yeah, and I appreciate your transparency, 17:01 because it's important to know, it's important to know. 17:05 So let's talk about diabetes, and what it is, 17:09 like what exactly is type 2 diabetes? 17:14 Well, type 2 diabetes is a what 17:17 American Diabetes Association calls a chronic 17:20 and progressive disease, degenerative disease, 17:24 that is really a problem 17:27 with the way sugar is metabolized, 17:29 or sugar is broken down in your body. 17:31 With type 2 diabetes, 17:33 which 90% of people who have diabetes 17:36 are typically going to have type 2 diabetes. 17:38 It tends to cause something 17:43 called insulin resistance. 17:46 And if I could get a little technical, 17:48 not too much, 17:49 I'm going to try to be real simple. 17:50 But basically, the idea is that the food 17:54 that you eat will go through your digestive tract, 17:58 and it will be presented 18:00 to the cells of your body by insulin. 18:04 So your pancreas has something called beta cells, 18:06 and those beta cells are going to secrete insulin. 18:09 And they're gonna be like an escort for glucose. 18:12 So that when your food, 18:14 if I eat a candy bar, it's broken down. 18:17 And so all those molecules of sugar 18:19 will be broken down. 18:20 And insulin is going to be secreted from the pancreas 18:23 to kind of help that sugar go inside of the cell, 18:25 which is the desired source of energy for your body. 18:31 Okay, your body wants to have the glucose. 18:33 And so in order for it to get inside the cell, 18:35 insulin has to escort it in through 18:37 a couple of different processes 18:39 on the cell membrane, 18:40 and all of those kinds of things. 18:41 But the idea is that 18:43 if it doesn't get inside the cell, 18:45 then there's going to be excess sugar 18:47 that's just swimming around in the bloodstream. 18:50 And you've probably heard that term 18:52 called hemoglobin A1C, 18:53 or that laboratory test called hemoglobin A1C. 18:56 Well, that is called glycosylated hemoglobin. 19:00 And so what that means is that 19:01 the red blood cells in your body 19:03 will have glucose tag to it. 19:06 And your body can only handle a certain amount of that. 19:10 When it gets to be too much, it becomes inflammatory. 19:13 And it's like something 19:17 scraping against the walls 19:19 of your blood vessels. 19:21 So I always like to talk about it. 19:23 Like if you were in a tunnel, 19:25 and you for some reason decided to ride 19:28 on the top of the car in the tunnel 19:30 and it's a narrow tunnel, 19:32 you would be on top of the car scraping up 19:35 against the tunnel top because of your position there. 19:39 That's what the glycosylated hemoglobin 19:41 does to your blood vessels. 19:43 And so it's scraping the insides 19:45 of your blood vessels 19:46 causing all of this inflammatory reactions 19:49 inside of the blood vessels 19:50 which is what leads to the cardiovascular disease, 19:52 increasing your risk of stroke and things of that nature. 19:57 So this whole thing with it being 20:00 just a little sugar is not a little sugar, 20:02 it's actually a very damaging condition that you have. 20:08 You want to make sure that the foods 20:10 that you ingest are not those ones 20:12 that can't be broken down. 20:14 And if I can tell you a little bit further, 20:16 I'm going to destroy one myth 20:18 that people have about type 2 diabetes is that 20:22 it's all about the sugar. 20:24 It's really not all about the sugar. 20:27 And that's the interesting thing. 20:28 The studies now shown that, that the issue is that 20:32 there's something called intramyocellular lipids, 20:36 which is really a nice, long, you know, as doctors, 20:39 we like to have terms, 20:40 so you can like respect that doctors, right? 20:43 So we use this term called intramyocellular lipids. 20:46 And what that means is that 20:47 there's so much fat inside the cell 20:49 where that glucose is trying to get inside. 20:51 There's so much fat inside the cell 20:53 that it can't... 20:55 Right, it's like a glue. It's like a glue. 20:57 I love that you said that, because it is like a glue 21:00 that kind of closes the lock, 21:04 so that you can't get that glucose inside. 21:06 And in my book, I talk about 21:08 how it's like going to your party, 21:11 you're the guest of honor, 21:13 I'm glucose, I'm the guest of honor. 21:15 And I'm trying to get into this cell 21:17 that where my party is happening. 21:18 Right. 21:19 But there's so many, 21:21 so much fat, so many fat cells 21:22 inside that cell that I can't get into it. 21:27 So I'm trying to get insulin, 21:28 I'm like, hey, but can you help me 21:30 get inside this cell? 21:31 And so he comes, he's like the bouncer, right? 21:33 He's the bouncer, 21:34 he's coming and he's trying to get that 21:36 glucose inside the cell. 21:37 But then what happens? 21:38 He's like, wait a minute, 21:40 something's wrong with this lock, I can't get in. 21:41 So he calls his buddies and says, 21:42 hey, can you get bring some more guys, 21:44 I need you guys. 21:46 Because if we get more of us, we'll be able to get it inside. 21:48 So he gets a lot of his insulin buddies 21:50 to come in to try to get that glucose inside the cell. 21:53 And though he probably gets a little bit in, 21:55 he can't get much in 21:57 because it's like standing room only 21:58 where it's all of these fat cells inside, holding, 22:01 hogging up all of the rooms 22:03 so that he can't get inside. 22:04 Oh, that's a good analogy. I love it. 22:07 So you get all this glucose backed up 22:09 into your bloodstream. 22:10 And that's really where the major problem is. 22:12 You know, it's so interesting to me, Dr. Helen, 22:14 because people don't really realize 22:18 how serious diabetes is. 22:21 Exactly. I mean, I... 22:23 A little sugar. 22:26 It's so, I mean, amputations, you know, kidney failure, 22:30 renal failure, and all of these things that... 22:32 Nerve damage. Yes, yes. 22:34 All of these things that happen as a result of diabetes. 22:39 Exactly. 22:40 It is not some minor condition, 22:43 and it affects so many people in our country. 22:48 About 30 million people have type 2 diabetes, 22:52 have diabetes, it's just, it's crazy. 22:54 It's crazy. 22:55 That's like 10% of the population. 22:57 Where do you think it comes from? 22:59 Well, I think, I think first, 23:01 there's a false narrative that is just got 23:03 something to do with our sugar. 23:06 When I actually assess a patient, 23:09 I'm looking at a lot of different things. 23:10 I'm looking, I want to see 23:11 if there are toxins that are causing some issues. 23:14 I'm looking to see what your diet is like. 23:15 I'm looking to see 23:17 what your activity level is like. 23:18 I look at your hormones. 23:20 I want to see all of those various parts of it, 23:24 so that I can optimize a program for you 23:28 to reverse type 2 diabetes, 23:29 because if you didn't know type 2 diabetes is reversible. 23:34 And I love that it's reversible. 23:35 Because, you know, 23:37 and I love the feeling when somebody says, 23:40 I don't have diabetes anymore. 23:41 You know, it's like, here, ADA says, I... 23:46 I'm gonna have 23:48 this chronic progressive condition. 23:50 But we now know that it doesn't have to be 23:52 a chronic progressive condition. 23:54 And because of that, I just feel like God put me 23:57 in a place to be able to help people 23:59 turn this whole thing around. 24:01 Yes. And I love that about it. 24:03 And I love the fact that, that you can still have like, 24:07 wonderful things and just not have diabetes. 24:11 That's incredible. 24:12 Let's talk about how you can reverse it. 24:15 What do you do to reverse it? 24:19 So one of the things that I do is, like I told you, 24:22 I assess all of those different parts of the person. 24:26 I'll do some laboratory data, 24:28 because I like to be able to look at the numbers. 24:30 I want to see what it looks like, 24:34 I want you to see what your hemoglobin A1Cs. 24:36 I have had... 24:38 I've had people who had hemoglobin A1Cs 24:39 out of this world. 24:41 I mean, you know, 12, 13, I mean, it's just crazy. 24:43 I mean, you want to be less than, 24:45 like 5.6 and I, you know, 24:47 and I see a going like into some realms 24:50 that you just don't want to be in. 24:53 And a guy from California, whose hemoglobin A1C was 13.8 24:59 I believe. 25:00 And so I treated him over, you know, 25:05 internet is so wonderful now, right? 25:06 Yeah. 25:07 And so we started talking, 25:10 and I helped him reverse his type 2 diabetes. 25:12 So my goal is, is to change some things 25:15 that caused you to get where you go. 25:17 So Hippocrates said something like this. 25:19 He says, in order to help someone, 25:22 and I'm paraphrasing, 25:23 in order to help someone with a disease, 25:25 you have to first find out 25:26 if they're willing to stop doing the thing 25:28 that caused the disease in the first place. 25:30 That's good. Right? 25:31 And that's really, that's really where it comes, 25:33 it's like the person has to be able to say, 25:36 "Yes, I'm ready to do this," 25:38 because I can't make you do it. 25:40 You know, food people, people tend to think that 25:42 in order to enjoy life, and, you know, 25:45 I'm a foodie, I love to eat. 25:47 And my husband will say, you know, we have two plates, 25:50 I always fix his plate. 25:52 And when we're like having dinner, 25:53 and I'll fix plates, 25:54 and if we're at somebody's house, 25:56 and I'm fixing his plate and my plate, 25:57 they'll think that his plate is my plate 25:59 and my plate is his plate, 26:00 because I'm going to eat most of the food. 26:02 So I'm a foodie, I love to eat. 26:05 So one of the things that I like to do is 26:07 I like to introduce foods to people 26:10 that will help you eat deliciously, 26:12 and still fight diabetes. 26:14 That is so important. 26:17 It's so good to have food that looks good, tastes good. 26:20 Because if it's, if it doesn't look appetizing, 26:24 nobody's gonna want to eat it. 26:26 And if it's nasty, 26:28 people definitely don't want to eat it. 26:29 Sure, they're not gonna want to eat it. 26:30 No. 26:32 So, yeah, so we have some pictures of some foods. 26:34 And if you could just kind of walk us through, 26:36 like what's important about these particular foods. 26:40 These are just some of many, but let's take a look at it. 26:42 Ah, absolutely. 26:44 So this is sauteed ocra with tomatoes and peppers. 26:51 I really like this one. 26:53 I like to use seeds, 26:55 I like to use a lot of fresh herbs 26:57 because the fresh herbs, 26:58 you know, being antifungal, antibacterial, 27:01 you can actually not only put in, 27:06 I guess I like to call it 27:07 building the flavor in the food. 27:10 So I like to build the flavor 27:11 because I think God is so amazing that 27:13 He gives us the plants to eat, 27:15 but then He gives us seasonings for it too. 27:17 Yes. 27:18 So the herbs are seasonings for it. 27:20 So I'll put in... 27:21 I'll put in some thyme, or sage, or oregano, 27:26 or some fresh herb I have, 27:28 I have like tons of fresh herbs on my patio. 27:31 So I like to go out in the yard 27:33 and just pull some out and put it in the food 27:35 for some flavor, and is absolutely delicious 27:38 and it's good because ocra actually helps to control 27:41 your blood sugar levels and I love that. 27:43 So I just want to be able to add, 27:46 add nutrition and add flavor at the same time. 27:49 That is so great. 27:51 I know, I'm gonna make sure my son Jason watches this 27:54 'cause he is a foodie. 27:56 He is a foodie. He is such a foodie. 27:58 I'm a foodie too, so he gets it honestly, 28:00 but he is such a foodie. 28:02 And so this is going to really encourage him 28:05 to move toward a more plant-based diet and me, 28:09 because I think it's just so important. 28:11 And God has given us everything that we need to stay healthy. 28:17 And the fiber also, 28:20 it's so important to have the fiber 28:23 because that, I believe 28:24 when I was practicing naturopathic medicine, 28:28 I would recommend fiber to people 28:32 who had diabetes 28:34 because it slows down the metabolism of glucose. 28:37 Exactly. 28:38 And so, yeah, so, it's so, God's given us what we need. 28:43 Firstly, the foods that God gave us, 28:45 the fiber, there's already fiber in it. 28:46 Exactly. 28:48 You see, that's why, 28:49 so, you know, Genesis 1:29 talks about, 28:51 "I give you every seed bearing, 28:55 and every tree that produces seed 28:57 for your food. 28:58 This is going to be your food." 28:59 And what's so interesting to me is that 29:01 Genesis 1:29 says that about us, 29:03 and then Genesis 1:30 says, 29:05 "And even the animals 29:07 are going to have seeds for food." 29:10 I mean, like, can you imagine a lion 29:12 was eating off plants instead of you? 29:15 Yeah. Right. 29:18 And that's how it'll be when we go to heaven. 29:19 Exactly. 29:21 You know, going back to the original diet 29:23 where there's no death, but yeah, the lions won't be... 29:27 Lions will be eating vegetables. 29:28 They won't be interested in eating us. 29:30 Right. So I can rub their heads. 29:33 Hey lion, you know, my dog, I have a dog. 29:35 His name is Kato, and he's a chow. 29:37 He's a white chow. 29:38 And he looks like a wolf. 29:40 And so people probably look at us and say, 29:42 how is she rubbing that wolf hair? 29:46 But that's what we'll be able to do in heaven 29:49 because they won't be concerned about us. 29:50 They're trying to, 29:51 they want to get their food from like, 29:53 we're gonna get ours. 29:54 You know, I mean, it's so simple. 29:56 That's true. That's true. 29:58 Let's see another diet. Now this is a story. 30:04 So this is a beet, carrot, apple and ginger drink. 30:08 Now this drink is so delicious. 30:11 Now I gotta tell you one of the things that, 30:14 that plagues diabetics in men is something 30:18 called erectile dysfunction. 30:21 And erectile dysfunction is really 30:23 because of the same thing, 30:25 the blood vessels, there's so much inflammation 30:26 inside the blood vessels, 30:28 that there's not enough blood flow to the end organ. 30:32 Okay, so if you just imagine your blood, your aorta, 30:37 for instance, is a very huge organ. 30:38 So it takes a long time for you 30:40 to develop a heart attack, 30:42 to have a heart attack, 30:43 because there's so much space in there. 30:46 But when you get to smaller vessels, 30:48 like the ones that that are responsible for ED, 30:51 or the ones that are responsible 30:53 for nourishing your back vertebrae, 30:57 those vessels are so much smaller, 30:59 that it's easier for them to get clogged up. 31:02 So when they get clogged up, then you end up with back pain, 31:04 or you end up with erectile dysfunction. 31:06 And so this, this, this drink, has beets in it. 31:11 And beets, I'm not a fan of beets, 31:13 I must say 'cause to me, they kind of taste like dirt. 31:15 But when I put it together with the carrots, 31:19 and the apple and the ginger, you don't taste that at all. 31:23 It's delicious. It is so good. 31:26 It makes you feel like Popeye. Yeah. 31:28 And it's very interesting, because, you know, 31:31 a little anecdotal story is that I do talks, 31:34 and I did a talk out, we were on a cruise 31:36 and I did a talk about erectile dysfunction. 31:39 And while we were on the boat, talking about that drink, 31:44 and I was talking about the benefits 31:46 that there's nitric oxide, 31:47 and so that it keeps the blood vessels open. 31:49 And you know, 31:50 how it's helpful in these different situations. 31:53 And can I tell you, 31:54 that we could not find a boat on the beet 31:56 after that on the... 31:58 A beet on the boat 32:03 after that talk, right, 32:05 because, you know, the men are like, really? 32:07 It'll help that. Oh, yes, I'll drink it. 32:09 So that was really fun. But I love that drink. 32:11 And I drink it very regularly, 32:14 because I love the way it tastes. 32:16 And it really does. 32:17 It just kind of feels like it's going inside 32:20 and just and just making your body stronger. 32:24 So I really love that. 32:25 And I think you hit the nail on the head 32:27 with the nitric oxide 32:28 because that opens up the aorta vessels. 32:30 Blood vessels, vasodilation. 32:32 That's why you want to do Viagra, right? 32:34 Because if vaso dilates. Yeah. 32:36 Well, they're trying to mimic 32:38 what God already made them to be, right? 32:41 So God already knew what we needed. 32:43 You know, we just got to reach out and grab it. 32:45 And it's really almost a matter of 32:47 just reaching out and grabbing it. 32:49 You can grow it in your backyard, right? 32:52 You don't have to go to the grocery store to get it. 32:55 You can just grow it. It's really just amazing. 32:57 And it taste so much better, you do. 32:59 It is so tasty. 33:00 And even if you have, you know, 33:01 you don't have much space, you can have a patio garden. 33:04 Exactly. 33:06 You know, so there are things you can do 33:07 with your urban little gardens. 33:09 The urban gardens. Absolutely. 33:11 I have things in pots, you know, all in pots. 33:14 And then my husband made my, made my raised garden 33:19 and it was, I wish I had a picture of it 33:21 because I was so excited. 33:23 I was just like, 33:24 I'd put all my little seeds in there, 33:25 things would just grow in. 33:27 I mean, it just makes you feel so good 33:29 when you like do it yourself, you know, 33:31 and how much money you save. 33:33 Money and the flavor 33:34 And the flavor. 33:36 Oh, you can't even compare. You can't. 33:38 Home-grown tomatoes you say with the store-bought. 33:42 Absolutely. No comparison. 33:44 No comparison. No comparison. 33:45 I want to ask you about the beets 33:46 because it's high in sugar, the natural sugar. 33:49 Yes. 33:50 So if you have diabetes, do you have to limit that? 33:53 Or can you have like, you know, 33:56 as much not as much as you want. 33:58 But do you have to limit the beets? 34:00 Well, I'll tell you this. 34:01 So part of my program to reverse type 2 diabetes 34:08 is a detoxification process. 34:10 And so what you're doing is all of the things 34:14 that are in that drink actually support 34:17 what's called phase one and phase two detoxification. 34:20 So all of those things like 34:22 in the first part of detoxification, 34:23 the first phase 34:25 that all of which occurs in the liver, 34:26 you can actually produce some really toxic metabolites 34:30 from that phase. 34:31 And so what I do is I put in foods 34:33 that will actually neutralize 34:35 those toxins so that it's eliminated. 34:37 So because these juices are so, are pure, 34:43 they're just the juice there, 34:44 they go quickly inside the cell 34:46 and quickly do what they need to do 34:48 and they go out. 34:49 So you might get some elevation in blood sugars, 34:51 but it comes right back down. 34:53 It's not something that keeps your blood sugars elevated, 34:55 because there's no fat in it to keep it, 34:58 to let your body hold on to it. 35:00 Oh, that's good. Yes. 35:01 Yeah, that's good. That's good. 35:03 Let's look at another food. Come on now. 35:06 So people think that 35:07 they can't have delicious dessert, right? 35:10 And so this one actually is fresh, 35:13 organic strawberries, fresh organic blueberries. 35:16 I have fresh mint that I grew in the yard 35:19 and that is aquafaba 35:21 which is made from the juice of a, 35:25 of garbanzo beans. 35:26 Oh. Yeah, yeah. 35:27 So what is that? 35:29 Is that a whipped cream on the top? 35:30 That's, I made into whipped cream. 35:33 And does it taste like it? 35:34 You make it taste like 35:36 whatever you want it to taste like 35:37 so I made it taste like whipped cream. 35:38 Oh, wow. Yes, yes. 35:40 And you have recipes for all of these? 35:42 I do. 35:44 I'm in the process of writing a book 35:45 called The Genesis Plan. 35:48 And that is just a straight cookbook 35:50 with just recipes in it. 35:52 And it'll have all of those different recipes 35:56 in there so that you can enjoy them 36:00 in the comfort of your own home. 36:01 Oh, that's awesome. 36:03 That's awesome. Let's look at another. 36:05 So I always recommend salads, right? 36:07 You definitely want to have something raw with your meals. 36:10 And this is actually kind of what primes digestion 36:13 and so you, I want you to start. 36:15 There was a reason that salads are the first course. 36:17 Right? 36:18 And so you eat the salad 36:20 because it primes the system for digestion and allows, 36:23 and that's my citrus salad 36:25 there that just allows the food to go through the pipes 36:30 the way it's supposed to go through it. 36:32 Yes. Absolutely. 36:33 And let's face it, so many people, 36:36 especially as you get older have to deal with constipation. 36:40 Absolutely. 36:42 And these plant-based foods help with that. 36:47 Absolutely. As they come with fiber. 36:48 Okay, fiber. They come with fiber. 36:50 It's just, it's a God, it's a God given thing. 36:53 It's a God thing. 36:54 It is. It is. 36:56 It's a God thing. 36:57 Let's see if we have any more. 36:58 Oh, sure. 37:00 So this one, 37:01 this one's a stir fried cabbage. 37:04 Oh, I love it. It has cabbage in it. 37:08 It has tomatoes, peppers, fresh thyme. 37:10 And all of these are fresh vegetables, 37:12 pineapple, fresh basil, some cilantro. 37:17 And I saute that all together and make it into this kind of, 37:22 you see carrots in there too, and it is so easy to make, 37:26 it's quick and is really, really delicious. 37:29 I mean, there's so much flavor in it, 37:32 because, you know, I like. 37:34 You know, when I first started eating plant based, 37:37 which was probably 25 or more years ago. 37:42 I'd go to a restaurant and, you know, 37:43 just try to get some food and they would serve you 37:46 like some iceberg lettuce. 37:49 That's the least nutritious of all the lettuces. 37:50 Exactly, exactly. 37:52 And then some shredded carrots and a couple of little pieces, 37:56 they would make sure that they get tomatoes in there. 37:58 But it'd be like two pieces, 37:59 like one here and one on that side. 38:01 I guess just to balance the salad out. 38:04 Just a little color. 38:06 And then and then they give you like 38:07 some ranch dressing or something on it. 38:10 And I like to think of is that, you know, 38:12 I want to eat some food, you know? 38:14 And so while salads are important, 38:17 I want some food with my salad. 38:18 Right. 38:19 And so, you know, so I try to make salads 38:22 that are buildable salads that are salads, 38:25 if I have, if I have a dinner party 38:26 at our home pre COVID, 38:28 people would eat the salad because I would make them 38:30 in such a way that you would want to eat them. 38:32 They're beautiful. 38:34 And they were colorful, 38:36 they had all parts of the rainbow in it 38:38 because I think God does that on purpose. 38:40 Like He gives us foods in different colors 38:43 because the different colors do different things. 38:45 Exactly. 38:46 You know, so like if I'm going to eat 38:48 some red and purple food, 38:49 it's going to help my circulation, right? 38:52 If I'm going to eat 38:53 some white foods like cabbage or something, 38:54 it helps my immune system. 38:56 You know if I eat some orange foods 38:59 like the carrots and cantaloupe and things like that, 39:03 then it's going to be cancer fighting. 39:05 Yes. I just think He's so amazing. 39:06 He's so amazing. 39:08 One tomato has over 10,000 phytonutrients. 39:11 There you go. 39:12 It's the most, 39:14 God has given us everything we need 39:16 and it tastes good. 39:17 And it tastes good. 39:19 It tastes good, absolutely. So that is so awesome. 39:21 You know all they've isolated 39:23 really is vitamin C and lycopene from tomato, 39:25 but there's so many more like you said, 10,000 39:28 there's so much they don't even know 39:29 the names of them all. 39:31 So you can't like just take lycopene, 39:34 like you just don't take a pill for lycopene, 39:36 you have to eat the whole tomato 39:37 because the whole tomato has all 10,000 of the things 39:40 that God said 39:42 this is what your body needs to thrive 39:44 and to exist disease free because He didn't, you know, 39:47 He didn't give us a body to be full of disease. 39:50 He told us He wants us to be in good health, right? 39:53 And that's being in good health is without disease. 39:55 Without disease. Exactly. 39:57 Exactly. 39:58 So tell us about this book. Yes. 40:00 You know, what's in this book. 40:02 So that is called Reverse It and you know, 40:04 I kind of had a little play on the name you see it is 40:07 after the reverse it because it's reverse. 40:10 Yeah, yeah. 40:13 So basically, 40:15 this book is kind of a blueprint 40:18 to reverse type 2 diabetes. 40:19 Now if you, I always recommend though, 40:21 that you do this with your doctor. 40:24 I don't want anybody to just go in and do it 40:27 because the food is so powerful that 40:29 if you're on different medications, 40:30 your blood pressure may drop too low, 40:32 or your blood sugars may drop too low. 40:34 So you really need to have it supervised by a physician. 40:37 I'm glad you said it 40:38 'cause I was gonna say to, you know, 40:39 don't embark upon anything until you've talked 40:41 to your physician 40:43 because your physician knows you 40:45 and your particular situation. 40:46 Exactly. 40:47 So, but the fact that 40:49 it can be reversed is so encouraging, 40:53 because so many people think, 40:54 "Oh, I'm just stuck here with this, 40:56 and I'll never get better." 40:58 So go ahead, tell us, tell us, it's good. 41:00 And I just want to just say this one thing, 41:01 if I had known what I know now, 41:04 when my mother was alive, 41:06 and my father was alive, I would still have them both. 41:10 So it is so important to make sure that 41:15 you're putting in the right things. 41:16 So you know, I always say, it's like, 41:18 if I'm driving a Mercedes, 41:20 I'm not going to go to the Ford dealer 41:22 and ask them, "How do I fix my car?" 41:26 Right. Right? 41:27 I'm not going to go to the gas station 41:29 and get regular test. 41:30 I'm not going to do that. 41:32 I'm going to go 41:33 and I'm going to get high test fuel, 41:34 and I'm gonna go to the Mercedes dealer, 41:36 because the Mercedes dealer knows my car. 41:38 Right. And he built my car. 41:40 So he knows what's best for my car. 41:42 Come on. 41:44 So I have to go to God who built us and created us 41:48 to find out what is it that 41:49 I'm supposed to put in this temple that I have. 41:51 Yes. 41:52 And because I know that 41:54 what He gives me is going to be the stuff 41:55 that's going to make it thrive. 41:57 It's going to make it healthy, 41:58 that's going to allow it to live disease free. 42:00 Yes. Yes, absolutely. 42:02 That's so good. Yes. 42:04 So that's what you have in here. 42:05 It's a step by step... 42:07 Step by step blueprint 42:09 to help reverse type 2 diabetes. 42:11 It talks about detoxification, 42:12 which actually really jumpstarts you 42:15 into this whole process of reversing type 2 diabetes. 42:18 There are some studies that show that 42:20 diabetes can reverse and reverse in 22 weeks, 42:23 according to Neil Barnard, 42:25 who is the founder of PCRM, 42:28 which is the Physicians Committee 42:30 for Responsible Medicine. 42:31 But I've been able through 42:33 detoxification actually shorten that 42:35 to about 12 weeks. 42:36 So it's really, it's really powerful to be 42:40 able to do that. 42:41 Praise the Lord. Yes. 42:43 Now, what about this? This is a workbook? 42:45 Okay. Tell us about this? Yes. 42:47 So that is the workbook that goes along 42:48 with reversing type 2 diabetes. 42:51 And what it does is it allows you 42:52 to chart your numbers. 42:54 So you can write down what your hemoglobin A1C 42:56 is when you started. 42:58 You can chart 42:59 what your blood pressure is doing. 43:00 And you can actually watch 43:02 and see your blood pressure go down. 43:04 And then you can even watch if you cheat 43:06 what happened with those parameters. 43:08 Right. 43:10 When you put the wrong things in your body, 43:11 and I'd like to use it as kind of reinforcement. 43:14 Yeah. 43:15 So that you know what your body likes 43:16 and what it doesn't like. 43:18 So I love. 43:19 I love that, for it to help reverse type 2 diabetes. 43:24 Yes, yes. 43:26 You've got all kinds of information in here. 43:29 Yes. 43:30 And what's good is that 43:32 you can chronicle your progress. 43:34 So even if you make a mistake, and you're, you know, 43:37 and you kind of go back up your numbers, 43:39 your numbers will show. 43:41 Your numbers will show. And get back on track. 43:43 That's right. That's all it is. 43:44 You get back on the proverbial horse. 43:46 Yes, yes. So these two go together? 43:49 Yes. 43:50 And we're going to tell you in a few minutes, 43:52 how you can get these books, 43:55 how you can order them 43:56 and also how you can reach them. 43:59 Dr. Stoddart, 44:00 because this is just so important. 44:02 There's so many people who are suffering. 44:04 Absolutely. 44:05 And they just don't know what can be done. 44:07 And they're popping pills, you know, 44:10 and trying to manage it without realizing that 44:13 it can be reversed. 44:15 Absolutely. 44:16 If you would, Dr. Helen, 44:17 look into this camera and talk to that person 44:21 who is suffering with diabetes 44:23 and just give them some hope in the Lord 44:26 and let them know that they can. 44:29 The situation can be changed. 44:30 Absolutely, absolutely. 44:33 So I want you to know, child of God, 44:36 that God has already made a plan for you. 44:40 He knew that you would have this situation 44:43 before it even happened. 44:45 And He's already gone and made a way of escape. 44:48 If I were to do sign language, 44:50 I would say you had a way to escape, 44:52 and that is through the diet that 44:55 He's already prepared for you. 44:57 So type 2 diabetes is absolutely reversible. 45:01 You don't have to live with a chronic disease, 45:03 there is a way out and there is help for you, 45:08 because God's already done it. 45:10 That's beautiful. That is so beautiful. 45:12 Thank you. 45:14 How does your diet plan affect the entire body like 45:19 you don't even have to know 45:22 be insulin resistant to go on this, 45:26 this diet plan because, in fact, 45:28 you can avoid it, 45:29 you can avoid insulin resistance. 45:31 Absolutely. Tell us about that? 45:32 I got to tell you a little bit. 45:34 You know, I'm full of stories. 45:36 We love stories. We love them. 45:37 All through the years in my life, 45:39 I got some stories. 45:40 But one of the things is that people talk about, 45:46 I can't help it. 45:49 My genes tell me that I'm going to have diabetes 45:52 or high blood pressure, or whatever. 45:54 But I have to say that 45:56 I have the worst genes in the world. 45:59 Okay? 46:00 So my mom had type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure diet, 46:05 high blood pressure, high cholesterol, 46:06 kidney disease, my father had prostate cancer, 46:09 metastatic prostate cancer, 46:10 diabetes, high blood pressure, 46:12 my mother's siblings, there were 12 of them. 46:16 Most of them died from type 2 diabetes, 46:19 or heart disease, or both. 46:21 One of my aunts had an amputation 46:25 from type 2 diabetes, and I was worried that 46:27 she was going to have it on the other side, 46:29 because 50% of diabetics 46:30 that have an amputation on one side, 46:32 are likely going to have it on the other side. 46:34 But she died of heart disease 46:36 before she got the other amputation. 46:38 So I totally know 46:40 what it means to have bad genes. 46:43 But genes only kind of suggest for you, 46:46 hey, I'm going to suggest that 46:48 because of your genes, 46:49 I think you should have diabetes, 46:51 but you can suggest to it, 46:52 no, I'm not going to have diabetes, 46:55 I'm going to change 46:56 what I'm doing so that I don't, 46:57 so they, I like to say that it 47:00 that genes kind of determine your propensity, 47:03 but your actions pull the trigger. 47:05 Oh, nice. Absolutely. 47:08 So from that I, you know, and people talk about 47:11 all different kinds of diets, you know, Paleo 47:14 and, you know, Atkins and, you know, all kinds of stuff. 47:17 But I have to answer that by saying, you know, 47:20 again, Mercedes dealer, Ford dealer, 47:23 where are you going to go to get your answers from. 47:25 And I just love the fact that 47:28 because God is a God of promise, 47:31 and a God who, 47:33 who knows what we need 47:35 has already made this way. 47:37 He's already told us what to eat, and how to eat it. 47:40 So I don't even go with Paleo. 47:42 I don't say, yes, let's do Paleo diet, 47:44 because that's the... it's not the original diet. 47:45 Right. 47:47 You know, people think that 47:48 the Paleo diet is like the original thing to do, 47:51 but it's not. 47:52 The Paleo diet is Cain's diet. 47:56 I want to talk to you 47:57 about Paleo and Keto and that kind of thing? 47:59 Yeah, yeah. 48:00 So we're talking about 48:03 what the original diet is versus the sin diet. 48:08 So before sin came, 48:11 He gave us the trees and that, da-da-da. 48:14 And then, when Cain had to escape, 48:18 and go and be 48:20 a restless wanderer in the world, 48:23 he had to become a hunter and gatherer to get his food. 48:26 And so that's where the Paleo came from. 48:29 It's not the original diet. 48:30 And so, that's when you were... 48:32 When he started eating things that he could just find, 48:35 you know, along the way, 48:37 so he killed his brother, he killed an animal. 48:39 I mean, you know, so it didn't, it was not a big deal for him. 48:42 Yeah. It wasn't a big stretch. 48:44 I've already killed my brother. 48:46 I can certainly kill this, you know, 48:48 whatever that thing is to eat. 48:51 Yeah, so. 48:52 So the diets, you know, 48:56 people talk about Paleo and they talk about the Keto 49:00 and all those kinds of things 49:02 based on their desire to lose weight. 49:05 And you will lose weight 49:07 on any macronutrient deficient area. 49:13 Okay. 49:14 Meaning, if I hold back fat, I will lose weight. 49:17 If I hold back sugar, I will lose weight. 49:19 If I hold back protein which you don't want to do, 49:21 I can, I will lose weight. 49:22 But whether that leads to a healthier lifestyle 49:28 is the question because I can lose weight 49:30 any way I want. 49:32 But what is my result at the end, right? 49:36 Because we talked about before, 49:37 we talked about those cells 49:39 with all that fat inside the cells. 49:40 So if I'm putting so much fat in my body, 49:43 eventually I'm going to top it, 49:45 I'm going to get to the top of what I will metabolize. 49:48 Initially, it does rev you up and then it slows you down. 49:51 So I don't subscribe 49:53 to those particular types of food programs. 49:58 And that's so important to know that 50:00 you take it back to the original diet. 50:03 You're not talking about the... 50:05 And there are people who do these diets 50:09 for some length of time, 50:10 but it's hard to sustain that, 50:13 it's hard to sustain not eating, 50:15 you know, some of the stuff 50:17 you really want to eat like bread. 50:19 Now they have these Keto 50:21 because I've done the Keto thing 50:22 and they have, you know... 50:26 Well, the way it's promoted. Yes. 50:30 If you eat like that, like all that bacon... 50:32 Yeah, yeah. 50:34 I mean, that's so against 50:36 what God has said not to eat the fat of animals. 50:39 Yes. So we just have to... 50:41 It's a good point. Very good point. 50:43 It's very the fat in the blood. Absolutely. 50:46 So we know we're not to do that. 50:48 But you know, you can eat avocados 50:50 and you can, you know... 50:52 There are some good fats. Which is good fat. 50:53 Yeah, yeah. 50:54 So that we know, 50:56 you can do but this is important 50:59 because we're looking at God's original plan. 51:03 And I know that our viewers are going to 51:05 want to get in touch with you, 51:07 because you have such amazing, amazing information. 51:11 So we're going to get your address, 51:15 phone number, they're going to find out 51:17 just how they can reach you 51:18 and you do telemedicine as well. 51:20 We do telemedicine, absolutely. 51:21 So people can call in and... Yes, yes, indeed. 51:24 And what do they, like what happens, they get... 51:27 So you can call in to my front office staff 51:29 and let them know that 51:31 you're interested in having a consult with me 51:34 and I will meet with you via telemedicine, 51:38 you just have to have computer access. 51:41 And so we can see each other face to face. 51:44 I would like to make sure that 51:45 you have a doctor on board 51:48 so that we can go through this. 51:49 Your doctor is going to be happy 51:50 that you're trying to do something different. 51:52 Right. 51:53 As long as you consult with the doctor. 51:54 Yeah. Just consult with a doctor too. 51:56 Let's go to your address 51:58 so that people can know how to reach you. 52:01 At her Pain 2 Wellness Healthcare Clinic, 52:04 Dr. Helen Powell-Stoddart and her staff 52:06 help men and women find freedom 52:08 from pain and live in abundant health. 52:10 For more information please visit their website 52:12 at pain2wellness.com 52:15 That's pain, the number 2, then wellness.com 52:19 You may also call them at 256-325-5700 52:23 or email them at info@p2w 52:27 that's for number 2, info@ p2whealth.com. 52:31 Their address is 235, 52:33 Portal Lane Suite B, Madison, Alabama 35758. 52:38 That's 235, Portal Lane, Suite B, 52:41 Madison, Alabama 35758. |
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