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00:01 As you're well aware,
00:03 we're living in unprecedented times. 00:05 Join us now for Today special program. 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Mending broken people 00:23 I want to spend my life 00:29 Removing pain 00:34 Lord, let my words 00:39 Heal a heart that hurts 00:44 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 00:55 I want to spend my life 01:01 Mending broken people 01:15 Hello, friends, welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:18 My name is John Lomacang 01:19 and to my right is my lovely wife. 01:22 How you doing, Honey? 01:23 I'm doing great. 01:25 I'm blessed and thankful to God for beautiful new day. 01:29 And as the saying goes any day above the ground is a good day, 01:33 And you work on radio, 01:35 so they might want to know what your name is. 01:37 My name is Angela Lomacang. 01:40 We are so thankful that you've taken the time 01:42 to tune in to join us for very interesting, 01:46 thought-provoking program about how God 01:49 never stops leading. 01:52 And our guest today is the young man, you'll 01:54 get a chance to meet in just a moment. 01:56 But you know where you are today 01:58 is not where you may be a year from now 02:00 or may be a month from now. 02:02 Because God's providence sees us where we are 02:05 and when we are not where He wants us to be. 02:07 He doesn't stop leading and guiding 02:09 until we get to that wonderful place. 02:11 So I'm excited about the program today, Honey. 02:13 Yeah, I am too because this person 02:15 is affiliated with radio. 02:18 And as many of you know, I work for 3ABN Radio. 02:21 And I'm excited about our guest today. 02:26 Okay, the topic. 02:28 We're trying to keep away from the topic, 02:29 but thank you for your prayers, and your financial support 02:32 of this network as we continue going and growing, 02:35 getting ready for the coming of the Lord. 02:37 Before we introduce him, we're going to go ahead 02:40 and go to some music to encourage your heart. 02:42 Who do we have today, Honey? 02:44 I love her name. 02:45 Her name is Mary Grace. 02:47 And the song is a very familiar song, 02:50 "People Need The Lord." 06:25 Thank you so much, Mary, for that wonderful song, 06:27 People Need The Lord. 06:29 It's a timeless song. 06:30 And playing with one hand. 06:33 Yes, she's what we call other abled. 06:35 You know, a lot of times people say people are disabled 06:37 but when you hear the way she plays, 06:39 that is not a disability. 06:41 That is a gift. 06:42 Thank you so much, Mary, for glorifying God 06:46 with the challenge that she has and what an amazing song. 06:48 Every time I hear her play, I always ask myself 06:50 what is my excuse. 06:52 Thank you for blessing our hearts. Amen. 06:54 Well, today we have is our guest Samson Fidimaye. 06:56 Good to have you here, Samson. 06:58 Thank you, John. 06:59 Yes, welcome to 3ABN. 07:01 I'm assuming this is your first time here? 07:03 This is my first time. Yes. 07:04 Wow. 07:06 You have an interesting story. 07:08 And we kind of had a chance to look over where 07:10 we're headed today in our interview with you. 07:13 And I want to just start by asking you 07:15 where were you born? 07:17 Let's just go ahead and begin with the beginning. 07:19 Born and raised. Yeah, far away from here. 07:22 So I was born in Nigeria, and Nigeria is in West Africa. 07:26 Okay. Yeah. 07:28 Nigeria, West Africa. 07:30 Tell me a little bit about the climate of your birth. 07:33 Because a lot of times people think, 07:35 well, where he was born 07:37 has a lot to do with who he has become. 07:39 But that is true to some degree and not true to others. 07:43 Tell us a little bit about your country? 07:45 So climate is tropical, it's a tropical country, 07:50 so we don't have snow. 07:52 I like to start with that. 07:53 'Cause snow has been quite a challenge 07:56 in the winter months for me, but it's tropical again. 08:00 And we have lots of warm weather, dry weather 08:03 throughout the year, lots of sunshine, 08:05 so we don't have to depend on vitamin D 08:08 supplements or anything. 08:10 So you have lots of sunshine and lots of rain as well. 08:13 So we have what we call the dry season 08:15 and the rainy season, 08:16 those are two seasons we have. 08:18 We've dry season, it's all dry, sunny. 08:20 The raining season, still sunshine, 08:22 but lots of rain as well. 08:23 Okay. 08:24 Now we've been to Africa several times, haven't we? 08:27 We really enjoyed visiting 08:29 the many countries in that continent. 08:32 Now what was it like growing up in Nigeria? 08:37 Yeah, my childhood was mostly playing outdoors 08:41 and we will do simple games. 08:46 So we would ride like car tires on the streets, 08:49 you know, with our hands over the stick, 08:51 and usually we did that almost naked, 08:54 like we just had our pants on as children. 08:56 So, but apart from that, we did play 09:00 some indoor games as well because I had siblings. 09:04 How many? 09:06 Five siblings when my parents were done. 09:08 Yeah. 09:10 But earlier on in my early childhood, 09:12 it was just me and my elder brother, 09:13 'cause I'm the second of six. 09:15 Yeah, so would play like table soccer 09:18 with the bottle covers, 09:22 yeah, we'll make them into players 09:25 and just play table soccer. 09:26 And what else did we do? 09:28 At some point, my parents did buy 09:30 PlayStation game for us when they could afford it. 09:32 Yeah. 09:33 Okay. 09:35 But you have a picture of you when you were growing up, 09:37 when you were a young boy. 09:39 Kind of tell us tell us what we're seeing here 09:42 just for those who are maybe listening on the radio? 09:45 Yeah. 09:46 So I'm from more particularly an Islamic background 09:50 and all of my siblings and my parents, 09:53 they are Muslims, 09:54 even up to this point as we are talking. 09:58 So yeah, it was pretty much a very structured life, 10:03 or shall I say defined life. 10:05 So I knew that I had to pray five times daily, 10:08 because that's the Islamic way of prayer. 10:11 And I did attend Arabic school 10:16 besides my Western education. 10:18 So I went to that 10:19 after every time I came back from my elementary school, 10:22 I'll go to this Arabic school where I get taught 10:25 how to read the Quran. 10:27 So and then we had Ramadan, the month of Ramadan, 10:30 the best month of the year for Muslims, 10:32 and actually do miss that, because it's a time 10:35 when family really comes together. 10:37 So, yeah, and there's the other one 10:40 that is quite similar to Ramadan, 10:43 you know, fasting this time, but it's also 10:45 a time family is united. 10:47 It's called homecoming in my language, 10:50 and it is in reference to the story of Abraham, 10:54 when he went to sacrifice his child, 10:57 but in Islam, the child is not Isaac, 11:00 the child is Ishmael, 11:02 according to the Islamic narrative. 11:04 So when God says, don't sacrifice the child, 11:06 I'm going to give you a substitute. 11:07 So you can go home with your child. 11:09 So that's why it's called homecoming in my language, 11:11 homecoming, but the child is not Isaac, 11:13 according to Islam, the child is Ishmael. 11:15 Ain't that's something? 11:17 That's interesting. 11:18 I wonder, and I just want to ask this question. 11:20 How, how do they arrive at that? 11:23 Because we know scripturally in the Christian narrative, 11:26 it's not Ishmael, it's Isaac. 11:29 Do you have any idea of that? 11:30 You know, that question I've had for a while as well. 11:33 But then when I realized that, 11:36 according to the Christian faith, 11:39 Isaac is the child of promise. 11:41 And I begin to see that it makes sense 11:45 if Islam says Ishmael, 11:46 because we know that the descendants 11:48 of Muslims come from the lineage 11:50 of Ishmael. 11:51 So, yeah, I think it's just tradition 11:53 or something. 11:54 Yes. 11:55 You were born up in a Muslim home? 11:58 What was it like in that home? 12:00 You told us a little bit about being raised in a Muslim home? 12:05 Did you have worships every day? 12:07 Did you pray five times a day as the Muslims do? 12:11 How was that like? 12:13 Yeah, I think, of the kids, 12:16 I was probably the most faithful 12:18 to that in my late teens. 12:21 Yeah. 12:22 But as a child, it was kind of like, 12:24 you know, scanty, 12:25 because you're not really included in yet. 12:27 Right. 12:28 But when I became, my mid teens, 12:31 my mid teenage life, I became very serious with it. 12:34 And actually remember that our corridor, 12:38 called it the corridor of my home, 12:40 I converted it into a mini mosque for us to pray, 12:45 because I noticed that everybody prayed, like, 12:47 separately, like in their rooms and things like that. 12:50 And at that time in my life, I was very 12:53 serious about my faith. 12:55 And I felt like why can we all pray together 12:58 or pray in defined place in a specific location 13:00 in the house, and I thought about the corridor, 13:02 and I transformed it into a mini mosque. 13:04 And then I had pictures of Allah 13:08 on the walls and things like that. 13:10 Yeah. 13:11 So I was pretty serious at some point with it. 13:13 Yeah. 13:14 How do you, what times of the day 13:16 do you decide to pray? 13:17 Because five times a day, how do you break that down? 13:20 Yeah, it's pretty easy. 13:21 Are they predefined? 13:23 Yeah, yeah, it's predefined. 13:24 It's a specific times of the day. 13:26 So the first one is before sunrise. 13:28 Okay. 13:29 Yeah, you have the first call to prayer. 13:31 And then the first prayer, then second one is at 2 pm 13:36 in the afternoon, and then you have the next one 13:38 at four in the afternoon, 4 pm. 13:40 And then the next one is 7 pm. 13:43 And the last one is at 8 pm. 13:46 And the one in the morning for sunrise is called Zuboye, 13:49 and the one at two is called Zuhr. 13:52 The one at four called Asr. 13:54 The one at 7 pm is called Maghrib, 13:57 and one at eight is called Isha, 13:59 so it's defined. 14:01 Yeah. 14:02 I wonder because I'm learning something now. 14:05 I mean, I've heard and I've seen, 14:07 I remember being in Trinidad. 14:08 I was thinking of that. 14:10 We were in Trinidad number of years ago visiting 14:12 and early in the morning, 14:15 we heard the call to prayer 14:17 through this megaphone, this very loud, 14:19 loud speaker. Yeah. 14:20 And it startled me, but the people 14:23 in whose house we were staying, 14:24 they were so used to it. 14:26 People in the communities, if they're not Muslim, 14:28 they remain in bed and it doesn't even 14:30 bother them. 14:31 I called 911. 14:33 I didn't know what was going on. 14:35 I was... 14:37 It's kind of funny. Yeah. 14:39 There's something going on, I don't know what it is. 14:41 And they said, "Oh, you get used to this. 14:43 It's a call to prayer." Yeah. 14:44 But I always wonder 14:46 why they choose those times a day. 14:48 And I don't know how you mentioned the time 14:51 so I'm kind of leave it there unless 14:53 there's a specific reason 14:54 why they chose those times of the day. 14:56 It's tradition again. 14:59 Yeah, this, you know, Islam is based 15:01 on how the Prophet Muhammad, 15:03 you know, lived his life. 15:06 Actually, it's the way of the prophet, 15:08 everything he did 15:09 is the definition of Islam for everyone. 15:11 So when he followed that is based on the tradition, 15:13 the left behind, there may be 15:15 a reason for the specific times for, 15:17 it's just what we were told, and that's what we did. 15:19 Okay. 15:21 I want to show a picture here. 15:22 Have you explained what we're seeing? 15:25 This is your family? 15:27 Yeah, family. 15:28 And you see also a yellow and a white thing over there, 15:33 because there are two people behind those callers that 15:37 are not being seen right now, 15:38 because they don't want to be seen. 15:40 And those are my sisters. 15:42 The only girls in the family. 15:43 They're actually twins, by the way. 15:45 Okay. Yeah. 15:46 So identical twins. Yeah. 15:48 So I respected their request 15:52 that is not to be revealed. 15:53 And there's a reason for that, 15:55 if you don't mind me sharing that. Sure. 15:56 So at some point when they became adults, 16:02 so when we were kids growing up, 16:04 there was no issue. 16:05 I mean, they wouldn't mind taking pictures 16:07 or you showing their pictures. 16:09 By the time they went to college. 16:10 And before that, as well, before they went to college, 16:12 they dress like every normal teenage girl. 16:16 But when they goes to college, they began to have 16:20 deeper convictions about Islam, 16:22 and how they dressed. 16:23 And they decided to dress in a certain Islamic way. 16:26 So in that picture, 16:28 they were not dressing that way. 16:30 They dressed in a regular way in that picture. 16:32 But now because they dress in this Islamic way, 16:34 just under deep convictions about Islam today, 16:37 you don't want people to see how they used to dress 16:39 and they didn't want to be shown. 16:41 Yeah. Okay. 16:42 We can understand that. Why they don't want to see. 16:44 Right, they want the former way of living. 16:46 Right. Yeah, right. 16:47 They're just no longer who we are. 16:49 Yep. 16:50 Now, one significant childhood experience 16:52 did you have growing up? 16:55 So, my parents unintentionally 17:00 developed certain fears in me 17:01 and made me very fearful child. 17:04 Because, of course, everyone is different. 17:06 And I have a very sensitive nature. 17:09 And I've discovered that hard on my life that I do have that. 17:12 And as a child, that really was very obvious 17:14 because my parents unintentionally again, 17:17 they brought home these movies 17:19 and their cultural movies. 17:21 We call them home videos, and they polluted things 17:24 like witchcraft and life after death. 17:28 And they were very vivid images, 17:30 very dark things. 17:31 And so I would consume these things as a child 17:34 that my mom was very fond of this kind of movies. 17:36 And I noticed that I couldn't haven. 17:40 I mean, and in Nigeria, 17:42 we don't have constant electricity. 17:44 Okay. Yeah. 17:45 So they will seize the power every now and then. 17:48 And there will be probably darkness in the night. 17:50 And I just couldn't be alone in the dark. 17:53 I mean, it's already fearful enough. 17:54 But for a child who had seen such things, 17:57 you know, so many times, 17:59 I'll have those pictures in my mind. 18:00 And I couldn't in fact 18:02 till I was about 15, 16, 17 there about, 18:06 I couldn't stay in a home by myself. 18:09 I couldn't live in a house just by myself, 18:11 even at 15, 16, 17 years of age. 18:14 So that was how strong those fears were. 18:17 So because I'll be like, what's gonna happen to me 18:19 if I'm alone and things like that? 18:20 Yeah. 18:22 So I had a very fearful childhood. 18:23 When in fact, 18:24 the fear was really in your mind. 18:26 Yeah. It's amazing. 18:27 And I'm glad you brought that up, 18:28 because a lot of times people don't think that. 18:30 But they see conditions the way they think. 18:32 And we had some friends visiting us from New York, 18:35 we live out here in the country, 18:37 very wide open country. 18:40 And it's dark at night, generally. 18:41 And we had some friends visiting from New York 18:43 during one of our camp meetings. 18:45 It wasn't maybe 15 or 20, well, that's about 30 feet 18:48 from our front door to their car. 18:50 And they said, "Could you walk us to the car?" 18:52 And we said, "Why?" 18:53 They said, "It's dark. 18:55 We can't see anything." 18:56 I said, "You have more to fear in the big cities 18:58 than you do out here in the country." 18:59 But once again it's the mindset. 19:01 It's amazing that with a Muslim background, 19:05 well, did the convictions later on become stronger 19:07 that those movies didn't continue, 19:09 or was it just a tradition? 19:10 Was it just something your mom or family did at that time? 19:13 You mean... The movies. 19:15 The movies, was it based on the Islamic beliefs or just? 19:17 No, no, no. 19:19 I wonder if it was. 19:20 I don't know, was there any connection to those, 19:23 the belief system? 19:24 It was basically cultural though. 19:26 Okay. It was cultural. 19:27 Because they weren't Muslim movies, 19:29 they were just cultural movies 19:30 in my language done by my people. 19:33 And the worldview in those movies 19:36 are actually the worldview of my people. 19:38 They believe that there is life for death. 19:40 Does Muslims believe that, life after death? 19:43 Muslims actually have 19:44 interesting beliefs about life after death. 19:46 I may be able to share that, 19:47 but one of them that I should probably share it now 19:49 is what happens in terms of your prayer life 19:52 as a Muslim. 19:53 So when you die, your prayers actually 19:55 follow you to the grave. 19:57 I mean your faithfulness to your five daily prayers. 20:00 And there was a time in my junior high school that 20:03 I was really thought about this concept 20:05 that when I die as a Muslim, 20:07 if I was faithful to my five daily prayers, 20:10 they will come visit me, personified 20:13 in my grave at those time periods. 20:17 So the morning prayer will come, 20:19 the afternoon prayers would come, 20:20 the evening prayers would come personified in persons 20:23 in my grave, and it will give me comfort, 20:25 they will give me comfort in my grave after my death. 20:27 But if I was unfaithful to my five daily prayers, 20:30 they will also come personified 20:32 to actually torment me in my grave. 20:34 Wow. 20:35 And that's Islamic tradition, 20:37 it's an Islamic tradition is believed, 20:39 I don't know where it's in the Quran 20:40 because Islam is not just based on the Quran alone. 20:43 There are lots of Hadiths as well, 20:45 which are kind of like the sayings of the Prophet 20:48 and things like that, and some other 20:51 recognized figures during that period. 20:52 So those things are called Hadiths, 20:55 and those things are actually as 20:57 they're taken as serious as the Quran. 20:59 So those are traditions that are believed to be true. 21:01 Yeah. 21:03 Now I have a question. 21:05 Do they believe that Jesus is a prophet? 21:08 What did they... What did they believe? 21:10 That's basically they believe that He is a prophet. 21:12 Yes. That He's a prophet. 21:14 He's one of the prophets, 21:15 they called him a special prophet, 21:17 because He did certain miracles and He was kind of unique 21:20 in the way He was born as well. 21:22 So even the virgin birth is recognized in Islam as well. 21:27 They recognize that. Okay. 21:28 Now, I want to show a few more pictures here, 21:31 then I'm going to go to the transitional 21:32 part of your story. 21:33 This is pretty interesting. 21:35 Let's look at the next picture and identify 21:36 to our viewing audience what we're seeing here. 21:40 Oh, yeah, this is my college. 21:42 My first college. 21:43 Okay. Yeah. 21:45 This is significant. 21:46 What's the name of the college? 21:48 It's called Babcock. Okay. 21:49 Now, when you were there, were you still Muslim? 21:51 So I went in there as a Muslim 21:54 who was not satisfied with Islam. 21:57 Yeah. 21:59 Why were you not satisfied with Islam? 22:01 Yeah, because just before this college, 22:04 maybe two years before, I had a huge problem actually, 22:08 because I had to live with my uncle 22:09 for a little time. 22:10 So I left home to a different city, 22:13 actually a different state where my uncle was 22:15 because I had to take my examination, 22:17 the one that helped me get into college. 22:19 I asked him to take in one more time. 22:20 So I was with my uncle. 22:22 And this time, there was no one to be with me at home 22:24 when my uncle left. 22:26 And this was just like two years before college, 22:28 and I still couldn't live by myself in the house 22:30 because of these fears. 22:31 So had these very personal fears, 22:33 I needed a personal God that will help me deal 22:36 with all of these fears I had as a child, 22:38 even my teenage life. 22:39 So while I was there, 22:41 I knew that I needed something stronger, 22:43 I needed something personal, a personal God. 22:45 So when I came into the college, 22:47 I knew that I needed to overcome this fear somehow, 22:50 and Islam wasn't giving me those tools. 22:52 So I was dissatisfied with Islam 22:54 when I was in that college, 22:56 But you have a dream, didn't you? 22:57 Had a dream as a child actually. 22:59 Share that dream with us. 23:01 Yeah, because during that same period, 23:03 when in my childhood when I would be so fearful 23:05 because of what I was exposed to, 23:07 I would also have very scary dreams. 23:11 And these dreams were very vivid 23:13 because they happen in the setting of the home 23:15 where we were living. 23:16 So in my dream, I see myself 23:18 just around our house being chased 23:20 around by some very scary looking thing, 23:23 like some demon or something. 23:25 And I remember these dreams happened 23:28 a number of times, not just once, number of times. 23:31 And I remember during that same period, 23:33 at least one time, 23:34 because I remember vividly, there was at least one time 23:36 when I dreamt that I was in my room, 23:39 actually inside my room and there was this angelic 23:42 being that came into the room. 23:44 I could recognize that being because I'd seen posters of 23:48 Jesus in my Christian saturated community 23:51 because we lived in a very Christian saturated community. 23:54 So there were many churches around 23:56 and they had these posters of Jesus. 23:58 But that particular dream happened around the same time, 24:01 I would have those dreams that would scare me to death. 24:03 And this being came into the room, very angelic, 24:06 bright and looked just like Jesus 24:08 I had seen in the posters. 24:10 And he offered his hand to me, like saying come. 24:13 And that dream was very good, was very good for me, 24:17 because I kept that picture in my mind 24:18 whenever I felt afraid. 24:21 Many years after that, 24:22 that picture remained in my mind. 24:23 Yeah. 24:25 And that helped in your transition, 24:26 because at the college that we just saw, 24:29 you started transitioning 24:30 away from Islam to Christianity? 24:32 Yeah. 24:34 In fact, I first did not, 24:36 I didn't actually plan to do that. 24:38 I just knew Islam wasn't for me, really, 24:40 because it wasn't helping me as a person. 24:43 And I didn't believe that it was going to help me 24:44 overcome my fears and everything. 24:47 So, but I wasn't 24:48 automatically thinking about Christianity. 24:50 Right. Yeah. 24:51 So I think for a while what I actually just did 24:54 was just live life as it came and got involved in lots 24:59 of music with my friends and the worldly stuff. 25:04 We will do a lot of worldly stuff. 25:05 I think I tried to drown my fears 25:07 with a very worldly lifestyle. 25:12 That's amazing. 25:13 So you're in a Christian school or an environment 25:16 where there are multiple religions. 25:18 Yeah. 25:19 But your friends start 25:21 becoming influential in some degree. 25:22 And then your dedication to Islam 25:24 started lightening up. 25:26 It was kind of like the... 25:28 I think the way I think of it is the bridge 25:30 between two points, 25:31 like between Zimbabwe and Zambia, 25:33 there's a bridge over Victoria Falls, 25:35 it's called no man's land. 25:37 And so you're leaving one in, 25:38 but not all the way in the other. 25:40 That's quite an experience. Yeah. 25:42 But you had some challenges here. 25:43 Yeah. 25:45 And I should say, at this college 25:46 is where I met my Adventist friend, 25:49 actually I had two friends. 25:51 One of them was a Pentecostal Christian 25:53 like Angelical Christian Sunday, 25:55 and the other grew up in an Adventist family. 25:58 And both of them were like, with bodies like, 26:02 I was like here and they were like that, 26:05 very close friends, 26:06 but outside those two friends, those two Christian friends, 26:08 the Adventist and Angelical Christian, 26:10 I had all of my worldly friends, 26:11 that I would stop to go 26:13 there to kind of drown my fears in and everything. 26:16 But the influence of my two Christian friends 26:18 that were closest to me, 26:20 which I think God made that happen, 26:21 because that wouldn't have happened, 26:23 if not for God, 26:24 because I had all of these worldly friends 26:26 that were really into that. 26:27 Well, these two Christian friends 26:28 were ready to be different. Yeah. 26:30 They were not perfect, 26:31 but they were so different from other friends 26:33 that I took notice of them. 26:35 And notice that I like to talk about spiritual things, 26:39 because, of course, somebody who grew 26:41 up in my kind of background, 26:43 I have a very spiritual background. 26:44 So I was interested in spiritual conversations, 26:47 and I'll talk with him about spiritual things. 26:50 And, of course, they were Christian, 26:51 so they would speak about the Bible a lot, 26:53 and I had not studied the Bible by this time. 26:56 So they challenged me to study the Bible, 26:58 both of them, and that's what I did. 27:00 Wow. 27:02 Did you have obstacles when you becoming a Christian, 27:04 share with us 27:06 about your journey to Christianity? 27:08 There were lots of obstacles, 27:10 especially I had the family obstacle, 27:12 because being a very sensitive person, 27:14 I didn't want to hurt my family. 27:15 I didn't want to hurt my parents. 27:17 And, 27:19 yeah, that was the greatest challenge. 27:21 In my second year, that was around 2009 27:25 at a college Mark Finley came there. 27:27 Oh, Mark Finley? 27:29 Yeah, Pastor Mark Finley came there. 27:30 Okay. Yeah, I came for... 27:31 A strong messenger of the Lord. 27:33 Yeah, two weeks, two weeks of evangelism day. 27:37 And it was from Mark Finley that I finally got a good grasp 27:41 of the Bible, 27:43 because proud folk, proud team come here, 27:45 I had not studied the Bible. 27:46 And my friends were challenging me 27:48 to study the Bible. 27:49 Since I was always loving 27:50 this spiritual conversations with them. 27:52 And I began to study the Bible, but it was quite a task. 27:57 You know, for somebody who didn't grow up with that, 27:58 I grew up with the Quran. 28:00 So when he came around, 28:01 and he had his two weeks of evangelism, 28:03 and he talked about all of these 28:06 major doctrines of the Bible, including 28:09 the state of the dead, which actually cut across 28:13 my fearful childhood, the things I saw in the movies, 28:16 so that was really instrumental for me, 28:18 I think, yeah, it was. 28:19 That was interesting, because all of a sudden, 28:21 you grew up with these fears, 28:22 you know, the demonic visions and the movies 28:26 that you were showing that developed even into, 28:29 you know, teenage years, these fears. 28:31 And all of a sudden, you realize, wait a minute, 28:33 the dead are really dead. 28:35 Yeah, the dead are really dead. 28:36 They're not living, they're not talking to me. 28:38 They're not spirits that will visit me in my grave 28:41 because of my prayers. 28:42 Yeah. It started. 28:44 That was quite a revolution. 28:45 I mean, when you heard that, I just got to ask, 28:47 when you heard that for the first time, 28:50 where was the click 28:51 because, you know, sometimes people say, 28:52 unbelievable. 28:54 The aha-aha moment. 28:56 What was that for you? What was that like? 28:58 I mean, did you go back to your room and say, 29:00 I can't believe, I mean, I can't believe 29:02 this is actually, 29:03 where did you get to the point where you embrace it? 29:04 That's the question really. 29:06 Yeah, I think I was prepared for it. 29:09 Because like I said, I was already dissatisfied with 29:12 what I had prior to my coming to the college. 29:15 And I was already drowning myself 29:16 in these worldly things. 29:17 So when that came, 29:19 there was something beautiful to me. 29:21 It was beautiful. 29:23 So I just couldn't resist that truth, 29:26 because it came from the Bible. 29:28 And as Muslims, 29:29 there is something about Islam that says 29:32 that you should recognize the Bible, 29:34 that the Bible is actually inspired by God, 29:37 although they have issues with the gospels 29:39 and all of these questions about 29:40 the gospels and everything. 29:42 But in general, Islam actually 29:45 recognizes the Bible as inspired. 29:47 So for me for those truths to be shown to me 29:51 from the Bible about the state of the dead 29:53 and things like that. 29:55 It was just too beautiful to just say no to it. 29:58 I just, I had it up like I was ready for it. 30:01 So nice. I was ready for it. 30:03 You know, you go back to the question why would... 30:05 And I can see God in this because the question, 30:07 why did your parents send you to an Adventist college. 30:10 And that also was a God thing 30:13 because I wasn't supposed to go there. 30:15 I was supposed to go to a public university. 30:19 And when I wrote my entrance examination 30:21 to the public university, they couldn't find my result 30:24 which is really strange, 30:25 because I went there after, 30:27 when it was the time for us to see our results. 30:30 And then, of course, see whether 30:31 I passed or failed or anything, 30:33 but it's just that they couldn't find it that, 30:34 they couldn't find my result. 30:36 And my dad was like, "No, 30:37 you're not going to be home for one more year," 30:39 because that's the implication, I had to wait 30:41 another year to write that exam again. 30:43 And he was like, "I think you need to go 30:45 to a private college." 30:46 So that's how I ended there. 30:47 You see the blessing. 30:50 It wasn't coincidental now that you look back. 30:52 I don't believe it was. 30:53 The Lord was closing one door and He was opening another. 30:55 You know, it reminds me of John 16:13, 30:58 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth has come, 31:01 He will lead you and guide you 31:03 into all truth." 31:04 And so tell us about your transition now. 31:07 Did you decide to get baptized at that school? 31:10 I got baptized at that school. 31:11 Okay. Yeah. 31:12 And I would go home during the holidays. 31:16 And I would still pray as a Muslim 31:18 because I was so scared to death 31:19 that my friends would find out that I was, 31:21 because my daddy told me that 31:22 when you go to that college you become a Christian, 31:24 because he knows it's a Christian school. 31:26 And he did tell me if I went there, 31:28 don't go there and become a Christian. 31:30 And I wasn't even planning on it. 31:31 But it happened because God wanted it to happen that way. 31:35 Just like he said, 31:36 what happened with my public university 31:38 chance which closed was a God, and I believe, 31:41 because now today I'm a different person 31:43 in terms of my fears. 31:44 Yeah, I'm not the same person I used to be. 31:46 So, yeah, I would go home, and I'd pray as a Muslim out, 31:50 still pray on the mat like, I'll go through the motions. 31:52 Yeah. 31:54 During the holidays, but I know I remember that. 31:56 I didn't say the Arabic verses now. 31:58 Because most probably... 31:59 You didn't want. Yeah, and I did not say. 32:01 You didn't say Arabic verses. 32:02 Yeah, I did not say the Arabic verses. 32:04 I was saying the Christian scriptures in my heart, 32:06 because most of those prayers, we pray, 32:08 you pray them inwards. 32:09 There are some of them you pray outwards, 32:11 like the morning and evening ones, 32:13 but the afternoon prayers, 32:15 you're supposed to pray inward. 32:16 So nobody knows what you're saying. 32:17 And I used to say 32:19 Christian scriptures in my heart 32:20 as I went through the motions. 32:22 That was interesting scenario in prayer. 32:23 You should be that from losing it. 32:25 Yeah. Yeah. Right. 32:26 Because I mean, I can imagine 32:27 you send your son away one way, 32:29 and he comes back home another way. 32:30 How challenging is that in a family? 32:33 You know, for example, 32:34 if a child decides 32:36 they no longer want to be Islamic, 32:38 and it's the parents... 32:40 That's the most dreadful thing 32:42 you could do to your Islamic parents. 32:43 Yeah, it's like, it's like you put in. 32:47 Yeah, spitting in their face kind of thing. 32:49 That's how serious it is in Islam. 32:52 It's like you're saying throwing sand in their face 32:55 and saying that everything they gave you means nothing, 32:58 including the western education they invested in, 33:01 including how they've done for you in growing up party, 33:03 invested in you basically saying that, 33:06 I despise all of that. 33:07 That's what you mean by becoming a Christian. 33:09 Wow. 33:10 Because you almost have to ask yourself. 33:13 When they found out, 33:15 I need to ask that question when they found out? 33:16 And they did find out. Yeah, they did find out. 33:17 Yeah. What was that like? 33:19 Yeah. 33:21 So I did that for the last two years of college 33:23 goes towards a bachelor's, just four years. 33:25 So I go baptized in my second year. 33:27 I remember I think, 33:29 and then for the next two years, 33:30 I was doing this during the holidays. 33:32 And so they didn't find out till when I was done. 33:34 So after you finish college in Nigeria, 33:38 you're supposed to go for a year of service. 33:40 So that was my chance. 33:42 I think I have a picture there of my youth service. 33:43 Yes. 33:45 Yeah. Let's see. 33:46 Probably they will show that, but not that one, 33:49 but the one prior that may be but anyway. 33:52 So while I was going for the youth service, 33:55 I said, this is my golden chance, 33:56 because I'm going to be away from home for a year. 34:00 So I wouldn't be there to see them 34:01 break down and everything 34:02 because I didn't want to see that. 34:04 So what I did was I wrote them a letter, 34:06 and I sent it to them 34:08 because while I was waiting for my youth service 34:11 call up letter to come 34:12 because I had to wait like three months, 34:14 I went to stay with my Christian friend 34:16 the Evangelical one in a different city. 34:19 So I said I was going there 34:21 just to try and find a temporary job 34:22 before I go for my youth service. 34:24 But the real reason was, 34:25 I wanted to practice my Christian faith. 34:27 I went there on that note, 34:29 and I was, my Christian friend 34:30 will go to church on Sundays and everything, 34:32 because I tended towards Evangelical Christian at first, 34:35 Christianity at first. 34:36 Yeah, so, while I was there for three months, 34:39 I would go to church every Sunday, 34:40 I was so happy, you know, being a Christian, 34:42 and everything. 34:44 And then when that time was coming to an end 34:45 to come back home and prepare for my youth service. 34:48 I said this is time to tell them, 34:50 so I wrote them a letter, like a note, 34:52 an email, I send it to my younger brother, 34:54 the one after me to give my parents this letter. 34:57 Tell them to read it. 34:59 And I'm coming home tomorrow. 35:00 Oh. Yeah. Wow! 35:01 So, get them ready, and I'm on my way. 35:05 Okay. Yeah. 35:06 So they read note 35:07 and I arrived the following day. 35:09 And they had seen everything, they had read everything 35:11 because I put out my heart there, 35:12 including why I did what I did and how 35:15 I didn't want to break their heart and everything. 35:17 So I just put my heart into note. 35:19 And when I came home the next day 35:21 I came at the 7 o'clock prayer, 35:23 I arrived at a 7 o'clock prayer. 35:25 And I told myself that I'm not going to budge. 35:28 I'm just going to stand for what I believe. 35:31 And I remember as soon as I came in through 35:34 'cause we had a fenced, a fenced compound, 35:36 we call it a compound. 35:38 So as soon as I came to the gate, 35:40 I saw my dad there just finished doing the ablution, 35:43 you knows, you have to do the ceremonial washing 35:45 before you pray. 35:46 And my dad told me, 35:48 go and perform your ablution and join us in prayer. 35:51 And he said it with such a strong voice 35:53 that I didn't know when I went and do the ablution. 35:56 I just went and did it and joined them. 35:59 But I knew that that was going to be the last time 36:01 I was going to pray like that. 36:02 I knew that. So I just obeyed and did it. 36:05 And that night he called me into the room, 36:07 my parents before them and 36:09 they started asking me questions, 36:11 but I didn't have to say much 36:12 because I said everything in the note, 36:14 I had sent them. 36:15 So I just kept asking, did you guys read the note? 36:17 Did you guys read the note? 36:18 They wanted to hear it from your mouth. 36:20 He said, actually what my dad said, 36:21 they want to hear from the horse's mouth. 36:23 So I remember my mom was crying 36:26 so bitterly, she cried and cried and cried and cried. 36:28 And she did say something that I remember that night, 36:31 she said, "I believe you're going to test 36:35 that religion, that other, check and write the other side, 36:38 I believe they're going to test the other side 36:40 for a while. 36:41 I believe you're going to come back. 36:42 Oh. 36:44 But even though I was a fresh Christian at this point, 36:46 I was just starting my Christian journey. 36:48 I knew it wasn't gonna happen, because I knew 36:50 that I had a personal Savior in Christ. 36:52 And that was what I had always wanted so. 36:54 Wow. Yeah. 36:55 Today, I think my mom has changed that... 36:57 That opinion. 36:58 That opinion by just seeing how much I've grown 37:01 and everything that's happened on that journey. 37:02 I don't think she believes that soon I'll come back, 37:04 I don't think so. 37:05 How many years have you been a Christian? 37:08 So this story I just shared now was in 2012 37:13 and this is 2021, 37:14 so... 37:15 Wow. Yeah. 37:17 That's amazing. Yeah. 37:18 So and I think that your constancy, 37:20 your consistency is going to be a witness to them. 37:22 Let's look at another picture here and explain 37:24 to what we're seeing here. 37:27 Yeah, that was the youth service. 37:29 So it was while I was away, that God began to walk in them. 37:33 This was kind of like a rural village area 37:37 where I was posted to teach other high school 37:40 as part of my service for one year. 37:42 Okay. Yeah. 37:43 So after that, I came back home. 37:45 But when I came back home, God had began to heal them. 37:47 Yeah. 37:48 And I remember my mom would call me 37:50 in Jesus' name. 37:52 Or she would call you in Jesus' name. Yeah. 37:53 She would? 37:55 That's what she called you? 37:56 That's interesting. That's interesting. 37:58 Now, I have a question. 38:00 You've been a Muslim. 38:02 And we've heard for many years 38:05 that you're ostracized when you're Muslim, 38:07 you put out and I mean, when you become a Christian, 38:10 you're put out of your home and things like that? 38:13 They didn't treat you that way. 38:16 They didn't shun you or anything like that? 38:18 I think they shunned, in fact, half 38:20 before I left for the youth service. 38:22 So after that night, yeah, after that night, 38:24 there was a break in the emotional bond. 38:27 This was so obvious 38:29 that our hearts were almost like ripped apart. 38:31 And we couldn't communicate in the house. 38:33 But I remember my mom 38:35 would tell me get some food to eat, 38:36 because I wouldn't eat. 38:37 And after a long silence, maybe almost a day of silence, 38:40 nobody talking to anyone, but speaking to each other, 38:43 she will say get some food and all of that. 38:45 But I remember that like a week later, 38:47 darker for like a week this, 38:49 this break in communication 38:52 and emotional breakdown. 38:54 But a week later, 38:55 when I was ready to leave for the youth service, 38:56 they actually followed me, my parents, 38:58 they followed me all the way 38:59 to the village like hours of travel, 39:02 to where I was going to serve. 39:03 So I think I have unique parents, 39:05 I have to say that, because Nigeria, Islam, 39:09 it's pretty serious, even in Nigeria 39:11 that parents would try to kill their child, 39:13 especially in the north. 39:15 And if they don't try to kill the child, 39:18 they disown the child. 39:19 And this was also I had in my head, 39:21 that my parents wouldn't try to kill me. 39:23 I think they love me not to try to kill me, 39:24 but I think they might disown me, 39:26 they might say, 39:27 we don't have anything to do with you. 39:29 But that didn't happen, 39:30 there was the break down for a week. 39:31 But when they followed me all the way to my, 39:34 where I was gonna serve for a year. 39:36 I just thought, 39:37 what parents I have, you know. 39:40 And, you know, I believe the Lord 39:41 was intervening in that respect. 39:43 He was saying, 39:45 I know that your heart is sincere. 39:47 And I like the way you brought this out, 39:49 because for those who may be 39:51 watching or listening to the program, 39:52 some people may be at the same place. 39:54 You might be in the same place 39:55 between where you are comfortable 39:58 and where you know God is leading you. 40:00 But you have your parents, that's a factor 40:03 you have the people that you love and care about, 40:05 you know that they have a heart. Yeah. 40:07 And you don't want them to feel that you 40:11 disrespect them or don't like what they've done for you. 40:14 And some people tend to get emotional 40:17 and translate that rather than saying, 40:19 My son is on his own journey. 40:21 They look back and say 40:22 he disrespects everything we did for him. 40:24 But God has blessed you in an amazing way. 40:26 Now I have to ask you the question, 40:28 how has the Holy Spirit led you? 40:30 How has the Holy Spirit lead you 40:31 in your Christian walk? 40:34 Yeah, so. 40:36 And the power of the Holy Spirit 40:38 was also very new for me, 40:39 because that was foreign to the Islamic faith. 40:42 So this is something that I had to learn it out 40:45 the Holy Spirit from God 40:46 was supposed to guide me in my life journey. 40:49 So it was pretty interesting that I began to actually feel 40:52 I had a close person with me, like this guidance, 40:57 this communication with my heart. 40:59 I believe that was the Holy Spirit. 41:00 And that helped me even in my transition 41:02 from the Evangelical Christianity 41:04 into Adventism, 41:05 because I said, I didn't become an Adventist immediately. 41:08 So I tended towards more of what 41:11 I learned from my evangelical Christian friend, 41:14 because as I was studying the Bible, 41:16 I was seeing things about the Savior. 41:18 That was all I wanted. 41:19 I just wanted a personal Savior. 41:21 I didn't want all of these strict rules 41:22 because I thought they were strict rules. 41:23 Because my Adventist friend would say 41:25 the Ten Commandments, don't do this, 41:27 don't do that and all of this. 41:28 For me Adventism was like Islam 2.0 at first. 41:32 At first? 41:34 Yeah, at first, and so I was just, 41:37 I tended towards the Sunday, 41:39 Evangelical Christianity. 41:40 I want to reiterate that because 41:42 that may have gone so quickly. 41:43 Yes. 41:44 He was saying when you heard about the rules 41:46 and the lifestyle of a Christian Adventist, 41:48 it was almost like Islam 2.0. Yeah. 41:51 It's like, okay, 41:52 because there was so many prohibitions in Islam. 41:54 Now I'm into another religion 41:55 with a lot of prohibitions. 41:57 That was your initial attitude towards it, 42:00 but how did that change? 42:01 So three years down the line, 42:03 so after college, three years down the line, 42:06 I was done with my master's now. 42:08 And I was working now. 42:10 And I was still worshiping on Sunday. 42:13 And so, where I was working, actually in north of Nigeria, 42:16 hours away from where I grew up. 42:19 I was at church this particular Sunday again, 42:22 and I remember that the pastor came 42:25 to the front of the church, 42:26 and said, okay, he was holding a dress in his hand, 42:29 just like that, 42:30 and was saying, "This is the dress." 42:32 He's holding what? 42:33 A dress, a dress. 42:34 Yeah, a dress in his hand. 42:36 And he said, this is the dress that we wore, 42:38 when he said we, he meant himself 42:40 and other pastors of that denomination 42:43 that we want his dressed 42:44 to meeting during the week with other pastors 42:47 and the GO, the general overseer. 42:50 That's what they call it, the leader of the denomination, 42:52 the general overseer. 42:54 And they had this meeting during the week, 42:56 and the general overseer told them all of the pastors 43:00 that when you guys go back to church on Sunday 43:02 for the service, make sure you hold 43:04 the dress you guys are wearing for this meeting. 43:06 Make sure you dress at the church, 43:08 hold it in front of the congregation 43:10 and tell them anyone who has a problem 43:13 should come and touch the dress. 43:15 And whatever problems that you have would vanish. 43:19 If you touched the dress? 43:20 If you touched the dress. 43:22 That's interesting. 43:23 And I thought to myself, 43:25 because I should tell you that before I went into college, 43:29 I had an experience. 43:31 That was a night I was playing PlayStation, 43:34 because I did tell you guys sometime 43:35 I think before this interview 43:37 that I think it was Angela that 43:39 my dad was able to buy a PlayStation for us 43:42 at some point when he could afford it 43:44 for myself and my brothers. 43:45 So I was playing PlayStation by myself 43:48 that night in the room just before I went to college, 43:51 and I slept afterwards. 43:53 And I had an experience, actually a demonic experience. 43:56 And something came into the room 43:58 just before I could fall into sleep, 44:01 and was harassing me from the back. 44:04 And it was so strange and so fiery like, 44:07 I see a fiery being, I felt so hot, 44:11 like a fire thing in the room. 44:14 And I felt this was so strange, 44:15 because I hadn't even fallen asleep yet. 44:17 And I was trying to turn my neck 44:18 to see what this thing was. 44:21 And I couldn't, because my neck was stuck 44:23 from moving. 44:24 And I remember I actually said Jesus at some point. 44:28 Yes. 44:29 And when I said that, the thing left. 44:32 And I would just leave that story 44:34 because I remember I went to my mom's room 44:36 'cause I was so scared, I was sweating. 44:38 So this experience, that was the very first time 44:41 I'd experienced but it continued afterwards. 44:43 So after that first time it happened 44:45 every now and then. 44:47 So even years down the line after I became a Christian 44:49 and I was worshiping every Sunday, like I said, 44:52 I was still having that experience 44:54 every now and then. 44:55 Whenever I try to fall asleep, this thing comes into the room 44:57 and harasses me from falling into sleep. 45:01 And so when a pastor said that, that came to my mind. 45:04 So I'm like, I should go towards the dress 45:07 because this thing harasses me, I don't know what it is, 45:11 maybe I'll stop having an experience. 45:13 So I did go touch the dress as well. 45:15 And I remember I went back to my seat, 45:17 and I fell to the ground 45:18 and I was rolling on the ground. 45:20 I was screaming in tongues, of course. 45:21 That's what we call the tongues in the Sunday churches, 45:25 and so on everywhere in the church 45:26 was full of people screaming in tongues, 45:28 and they were people rolling on the floor. 45:29 There were ladies in front, almost naked in front, 45:32 were rolling on the floor and everything. 45:34 So after the service, 45:36 because I was living with a friend 45:38 in this city where I was working. 45:40 So my friend was driving. 45:42 And he asked me a question, he said, 45:45 he called me by my cultural name instead of name. 45:48 Why did you fall down in the church? 45:50 Yeah. 45:51 And I was almost like, are you serious. 45:55 Are you asking me that question? 45:57 And he said, "Yeah, why did you fall?" 45:58 And I'm like, 46:00 that doesn't make sense, people fell. 46:01 I mean, everybody was falling. 46:03 So what do you mean, why did I fall. 46:05 That he said, "It was because you did not have breakfast." 46:08 So he was kind of playing about this, 46:10 because actually I didn't have breakfast that morning. 46:12 He said, "Is it because you didn't have breakfast?" 46:14 And I felt he would explain. 46:15 He was trying to make a joke out of it. 46:18 And that really got to me because I felt what happened 46:20 was a divine thing. 46:23 And I said, "Shut up. Shut up. 46:25 Stop saying that 46:26 if you don't God to strike you." 46:27 I mean, I was so, I was so infuriated, 46:30 yeah, by his pranks. 46:33 So, but when we got home, 46:36 I began to think about it and reflect on his question. 46:38 Yes. 46:40 And he didn't even know that. But I was thinking deeply. 46:41 I said, "Does this even make sense?" 46:43 I remember the ladies in front of the church 46:45 were rolling almost naked in front of the church. 46:48 I was like, is this what biblical Christianity? 46:51 Is this really what Christianity is about? 46:54 So then I began to remember my conversations 46:56 with my Adventist friend, 46:58 how his Christianity was very decent. 47:01 It was not all of these emotionalism and all of that. 47:04 And I said, I should probably go slowly, 47:07 not even asking because at this point, 47:09 I was very confident 47:10 in my ability to study the Bible for myself. 47:13 So I said, let me try and study all these things, 47:15 he tried to tell me, that's cool. 47:16 And that was what I did. 47:17 And after two weeks of intensive study, 47:20 because I want to make sure 47:21 I told myself I was gonna leave Islam, 47:23 I need to do something that is true, 47:26 something that is true, 47:27 something that is biblical. 47:28 So I began to do this research myself 47:30 for about two weeks. 47:32 And I will show at the end of my story that 47:34 Adventism was the biblical Christianity. 47:37 Amen. Amen. 47:38 Wow. 47:40 You know, our time is running away from us. 47:41 And you have so much to share with us. 47:42 I want to go through a few more pictures. 47:44 Advent Family Missions, we got to talk about that. 47:46 What is the Advent Family Missions? 47:47 Yes. 47:49 So I met this lady some time before 47:52 I went to the mission school in Nigeria. 47:54 So I just left my job. 47:55 I'm talking about how the Holy Spirit has led me. 47:57 So the Holy Spirit. 47:58 Yeah, that's all right there. That's the lady you met. 48:00 Yeah. 48:01 So the Holy Spirit, I believe, was convincing me to leave 48:04 what I was doing my regular job for something deeper, 48:06 that God wanted to lead me to something more deep 48:09 than what I was experiencing. 48:11 And I, at some point, I let God guide me. 48:13 And I was in a mission school in Nigeria. 48:15 And around that time, I met a lady right there. 48:17 And she was just about to finish 48:21 bachelor's in Bible instruction 48:24 from a college in Nigeria. 48:26 And so I met after I left my job. 48:28 So I wouldn't have even met, 48:30 if I didn't follow God's guidance for my life. 48:32 So while she was finishing her 48:34 bachelor's in Bible instruction, 48:35 I was at this mission school in Nigeria, 48:37 where I heard about Heartland College. 48:41 Yeah, that was how I came to the States 48:43 because I heard about Heartland College 48:44 while I was at a mission school. 48:46 That's right. 48:47 Yeah, so to answer your question 48:48 about Advent Family Missions. Yeah. 48:50 We intend to have a family ministry together. 48:52 Yeah, she's Adventist. 48:53 She grew up Adventist. 48:55 And who is she in your life? How is she? 48:56 Who is she in your life? 48:58 She's my fiance. There you go. 49:00 You know, my wife was gonna bring that up. 49:02 Yes, definitely. Yeah. 49:03 Getting ready to get married? 49:05 Yeah, I'm gonna get married. 49:06 Praise the Lord. 49:07 Let's look at the next picture here, 49:09 because we want to point out that you said 49:10 you're going to be starting a ministry together. 49:12 Yeah. 49:14 And, and is that... 49:15 You know, what is that? Oh, yeah. 49:16 So this is the ministry that she started. 49:19 Okay. Yeah. 49:21 So it's called Young Gospel Advocates 49:23 because she likes to organize conferences, 49:27 yearly conferences. 49:29 So since 2017 when I met her, I met her late 2016. 49:32 So 2017, she organized a Bible conference. 49:35 And we have that picture right there. 49:37 And I went there as a friend, 49:38 she invited me to come to share, 49:41 and I shared anyways. 49:43 There was a baptism, some young people got baptized. 49:45 There's a picture I think, I have there. 49:46 Yes. Yeah. 49:47 So that's, that's a ministry that she started 49:49 for Bible conferences in Nigeria. 49:51 That's the picture right there. Yeah. 49:53 Okay. 49:55 Now, the Lord has blessed your life. 49:56 And we're not going to talk too much about it today. 49:58 But there's a booklet entitled, 50:00 book actually you wrote called Saving Fearful. 50:03 And the title is amazing, because it has to do 50:07 with coming out of the fears of growing up, 50:09 the fears of disappointing your parents, 50:12 the fears of your experience 50:14 even into your educational years. 50:17 But then the word saving is a big part of that. 50:19 What made you choose that title 50:21 just before we go to our news break here? 50:23 Absolutely, so... 50:26 And even the picture. 50:29 I believe that, and the picture tells the story as well, 50:32 because in that picture, I was at church 50:34 at my local church in Nigeria, 50:36 the Seventh-day Adventist Church there, 50:37 and I didn't know what the future held for me. 50:39 So I remember it was after the service in Sabbath, 50:42 I stood there to the window, 50:44 and someone took a picture of me, 50:46 and when I look at that picture, 50:47 it's mysteries of the future, 50:49 not knowing what the future held for me. 50:50 Okay. 50:52 I get it? Yeah. 50:53 So Saving Fearful is just... 50:56 I'm like fearful, personified as a child 50:58 and intermittently to life. 50:59 So God has to save to save me somehow. 51:02 Wow. 51:03 And you've also worked at Strong Tower Radio? 51:05 Yeah, that was my internship site. 51:07 Yeah. 51:08 Because I said, I went to Heartland 51:10 for my training when I came to the States 51:11 and I went to Strong Tower Radio 51:13 in Michigan for my internship. 51:15 Well, I want to also give some information 51:17 because you might want to get in touch with Samson 51:19 Fidimaye 51:20 to find out more about maybe inviting him 51:23 and more about his story 51:24 and even getting access to his book. 51:25 So here is the information that you're going to need. 51:29 Advent Family Missions works in collaboration 51:33 with churches and other ministries 51:35 to conduct missionary work in Nigeria, 51:37 West Africa and beyond, 51:39 preparing people for the coming of Jesus. 51:42 For more information about them or to support their efforts, 51:45 please visit their website, AdventFamilyMissions.org 51:49 That's AdventFamilyMissions.org 51:53 You may also call them at country code 51:55 +234 (810) 603-4266. 52:00 Their email address is 52:02 Mission @AdventfamilyMissions.org 52:06 That's Mission @AdventFamilyMissions.org |
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