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Born On His Wings

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00:01 As you're well aware,
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00:12 I want to spend my life
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00:44 I want to spend my life
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00:55 I want to spend my life
01:00 Mending broken people
01:15 Hello, friends. Welcome to 3ABN Today.
01:17 I'm John Lomacang, and I will say today
01:19 I have my copilot next to me.
01:23 You'll find out why. You'll find out why.
01:25 I'm Angela, I'm so glad that you decided to tune in today.
01:29 You're gonna be blessed.
01:30 We have a wonderful program, don't we, honey?
01:32 That's right. It's...
01:34 I would say it's probably very closely associated
01:36 with the three angles' messages,
01:38 flying in the midst of heaven.
01:39 I'm using all these clichés
01:40 that are connected to the program.
01:42 Yeah. Yeah.
01:43 I think we should, on that note,
01:45 I think that should just dive in
01:46 and introduce our guests.
01:47 Yeah. Yeah.
01:49 We have a great family here in front of us.
01:51 That's right.
01:52 Let me start with this wonderful family
01:54 far down on the other side of the table.
01:56 We have Yosi and Josh Fix.
02:01 Right? Just as it sounds, Fix?
02:02 Fix, yes.
02:04 And do you remember their son's names?
02:06 Oh yeah. Caleb and Isaac.
02:09 And Isaac.
02:10 Well, good to have you here today.
02:11 Good to be here. Thank you.
02:13 And you are both with AWA, I was saying...
02:16 That's correct. Good.
02:17 That means what does that stand for?
02:19 Adventist World Aviation. Something I love to do.
02:21 And we're gonna get more
02:22 into your story in just a moment,
02:24 but to our right is somebody that was a part of our family,
02:26 part of our life a little more than 18 years ago.
02:28 Yeah. When?
02:30 At the St. Louis Church. That's right.
02:32 At St. Louis Central.
02:33 Bruce, good to see you, Bruce Wilkerson.
02:35 Thank you, sir. You have a famous name of.
02:38 I know, right?
02:39 A musician by the name, Bruce Wilkerson,
02:42 I think orchestra, something to that effect.
02:44 Wow.
02:45 But tell us a little bit about you briefly?
02:47 Oh, briefly. Yeah.
02:48 Right now I'm the executive vice president
02:50 for Adventist World Aviation.
02:51 We're based in Johnson county, North Carolina.
02:56 Okay. I have served five years.
02:57 My wife and I, Monique
02:59 and I served five years in the jungles of Guyana
03:01 and a year in the Philippines.
03:02 Okay.
03:04 So now I'm the vice president for Adventist World Aviation.
03:07 We're here to introduce our missionaries and training.
03:09 Good.
03:10 And they are 18 years older than
03:12 when we saw them last?
03:13 Yes. Couple of years.
03:14 Here they are.
03:16 We haven't aged, just you have, but we're going to have
03:17 an exciting program today about aviation,
03:20 about Adventist World Aviation, the ministry of the air.
03:24 I could say that,
03:25 I think that's the way to do it.
03:27 You could get... You could far...
03:28 You could get much farther by air than you by...
03:30 can by land.
03:31 And we're gonna find out why on this program,
03:33 how you can get further by air?
03:35 That's right.
03:37 But we want to thank you for your prayers
03:38 and your financial support of 3BN
03:40 as we continue going and growing,
03:42 getting ready for the coming of Jesus.
03:44 And because we have a wonderful packed program,
03:46 pictures and testimony,
03:48 and some video to talk about this wonderful ministry
03:51 and the people that are here to represent it.
03:53 But right now we're gonna go to some music.
03:55 What do we have, honey? Oh, yeah.
03:56 We have some wonderful music and it's by Jeff Pearls
04:01 and the title is, "The Wonder of it All."
04:04 Amen.
04:23 There's the wonder of sunset
04:28 At evening
04:33 The wondrous sunrise
04:38 I see
04:43 But the wonder of wonders
04:47 That thrills my soul
04:52 Is the wonder that
04:55 God loves me
05:02 O, the wonder of it all
05:07 The wonder of it all
05:11 Just to think that
05:15 God loves me
05:21 O, the wonder of it
05:26 All the wonder of it all
05:31 Just to think that
05:34 God loves me
05:46 There's the wonder of springtime
05:51 And harvest
05:56 The sky the stars and the sun
06:05 But the wonder of wonders
06:10 That thrills my soul
06:15 Is a wonder that's only begun
06:24 O, the wonder of it all
06:29 The wonder of it all
06:34 Just to think that
06:37 God loves me
06:44 O, the wonder of it all
06:49 The wonder of it all
06:53 Just to think that
06:57 God loves me
07:02 O, the wonder of it all
07:08 The wonder of it all
07:13 Just to think that
07:16 God loves me
07:22 Just to think that
07:26 God loves me
07:46 Thank you so much, Jeff, for that wonderful song,
07:48 the wonder of it all.
07:49 Yes. And what a smooth voice.
07:52 Oh, yeah. Very smooth.
07:53 Thinking of Jim Reeves. That's right.
07:55 The old timers will know who Jim Reeves is.
07:57 But thank you for that.
07:59 And it is a wonderful segue
08:00 because it's a wonder what God can do through lives
08:03 that are dedicated to carrying the gospel
08:05 to difficult to reach places.
08:07 And you, and I know we've been some places
08:10 around the world like in New Guinea.
08:11 There's certain places you cannot get except by plane.
08:14 Yeah. We were in New Guinea.
08:16 Yeah. And what...
08:17 You're a pilot, aren't you, honey?
08:19 Well, to some degree I'm one RC pilot,
08:22 and computer pilot.
08:24 Computer pilot, yeah.
08:25 I've flown everywhere on the computer,
08:27 but let's go ahead and dive
08:29 in to see our guests here today.
08:30 Let's do it.
08:32 Good to have you here, Bruce. Thank you.
08:33 And Josh and Yosi.
08:36 And just for those who may just be joining us,
08:40 we're talking about Adventist World Aviation.
08:42 Give us a little bit of background
08:44 on Adventist World Aviation,
08:45 kind of how long have they been around
08:47 some of the places that we could find them
08:50 working through flight?
08:52 Okay.
08:53 Well, Adventist World Aviation
08:55 was formed at the request of Bob Falkenberg,
08:57 Elder Falkenberg in 1995.
08:59 A group of people got together
09:01 and formed our organization where mission aviation
09:03 was starting to be transitioned
09:05 from the church,
09:07 sponsored to individual
09:09 independent ministry part of ASI.
09:11 The mission of Adventist World Aviation
09:14 is to spread the gospel to all parts of the world.
09:17 We're currently located in Guyana, South America.
09:20 We're located in Nicaragua where Josh and Yosi
09:23 just returned from,
09:24 and we're also located in Palawan the Philippines.
09:27 We also have projects,
09:28 of course, in North America, in Alaska and Ontario, Canada.
09:32 Hmm. Wow.
09:33 You were in Guyana, you said? Yes, ma'am.
09:35 I was there for five years with Monique, my wife,
09:38 and we spent a year in Palawan.
09:40 What were you doing for five years there?
09:42 Well, we're sharing the gospel message.
09:44 We believe in, we hope everybody
09:47 that is doing the ministry of Christ
09:48 is believes that
09:50 He's in the business of reconciling a lost world
09:52 to Himself through his Son Jesus.
09:54 And so living there, you become friends,
09:56 you become neighbors' friends,
09:58 and you build lifetime relationships.
10:00 We still have with the people in Mabaruma.
10:02 And we believe in sharing the gospel
10:04 through the experiences that God gives us.
10:06 You said it's like going home. It is.
10:08 And we'll be back there soon. In few months, yes.
10:10 In few months, yes. Wow.
10:12 Okay.
10:13 How many planes do you have in your fleet?
10:16 Well, we currently have about 25, about 25.
10:19 And that's they are in different places
10:21 in around the world,
10:22 whether it's Guyana, Nicaragua, Philippines, Alaska, Ontario,
10:25 or right here in the United States.
10:27 You have a mechanic? Yes, we...
10:30 Actually, Josh is, not just a pilot,
10:32 but he's also an aircraft mechanic.
10:33 Very good. Wow.
10:34 Oh, you see.
10:36 And just introduce us to them,
10:37 kind of, I know that we're gonna be
10:39 interviewing them in great detail,
10:41 but kind of segue into.
10:42 Okay.
10:43 How they came about a part of AWA?
10:45 Well, Josh and Yosi.
10:46 I believe they first started with AWA in 2013 or '14.
10:52 I first became acquainted,
10:54 I should say with Adventist World Aviation
10:57 and I think 2000, 2012.
10:59 Twelve? Okay.
11:01 I met the president Rick at ASI in Cincinnati.
11:04 And we kind of started a conversation essentially
11:06 between myself as well as the staff of AWA.
11:10 I sent him an application, I think late 2014,
11:13 it kind of became official early 2015.
11:16 Great.
11:17 And, Josh, when he started with us,
11:19 he was a good, a great example.
11:20 Josh came to us with zero aviation experience.
11:22 Oh, wow.
11:24 So he on his own took flight lessons,
11:26 became a pilot.
11:28 He's a commercial rated instrument,
11:29 rated pilot or commercial license
11:30 instrument rated pilot.
11:32 He's also an aircraft and power plant mechanic.
11:35 So he can work on the aircraft, legally FAA aircraft
11:38 and fly the planes.
11:39 Wow. So there's hope for me yet?
11:41 Yes, there is.
11:42 I can transition to the real thing.
11:45 Wow, it's so good to have you here.
11:46 You did a lot of research on these two.
11:48 Yeah. This is a wonderful couple.
11:51 And we wanna know how you met.
11:52 We know that you were in Mexico, right?
11:56 And what were you do... Is that where you're from?
11:58 I'm originally from Mexico, yes.
12:00 And I came to Wildwood,
12:01 a wonderful place in 2009 and I came there first
12:06 and then he came two weeks later
12:09 and later on we met,
12:12 'cause I didn't speak any English.
12:14 So once I learned English,
12:15 we started having like the same group of friends
12:18 and we went mountain biking
12:19 and doing all of this adventure things
12:23 and, yeah, that's how come...
12:25 How we met.
12:26 And do we have any pictures from your date?
12:28 And I think we did have.
12:29 Oh, we have a picture of when we got engaged,
12:32 so we got to know each other a little in Wildwood
12:35 and later on became friends
12:37 and then initiated a courtship.
12:39 Not long after that, I think a couple of weeks,
12:41 she ended up having to go back to Mexico
12:43 because of a visa issues.
12:45 And we were separated for about 10 months there.
12:48 So she came back once she got her visa cleared
12:52 and at the second day she was back, I proposed.
12:57 Not letting her go while you were there.
12:58 Yes. Wonderful.
13:00 Yeah. Yeah.
13:01 The secret was they sang the hymn,
13:02 no turning back.
13:04 There's actually a friend of mine,
13:06 he was a Cuban descent
13:08 down there at wildwood, Jose Noriega.
13:10 And I remember when we first started dating,
13:12 he was like, Josh, you know,
13:14 when you start going down that runway,
13:16 there's a point where you,
13:17 you gotta pull back, you're gonna lift up.
13:19 So I remember that. That's right.
13:20 And that was true. And when did you get married?
13:24 2014 in January. January 7th, cold day.
13:28 Let's see, we have a picture.
13:29 We've picture of your wedding day.
13:31 Well, the picture that we have,
13:32 so funny story, we got married two times.
13:35 Oh, yeah.
13:36 One time for the judge and the immigration,
13:38 essentially small service in our church
13:41 with some family and close friends.
13:43 That's like our official wedding.
13:44 Right. They counted that way.
13:46 There you go.
13:47 What we have more is more of a,
13:48 not so much a formality,
13:50 but for the celebration of the fact,
13:51 it's more of her family that could come
13:53 once they got their visas to be able to attend.
13:55 In July 27th... 27th, yeah.
13:59 2014, the same year. Yeah.
14:01 Six months later.
14:02 Then you had two beautiful sons.
14:04 Yeah. Caleb in 2016.
14:08 And then Isaac, 2018. Yeah.
14:11 Wow, wonderful. Highly energetic.
14:12 The type...
14:14 You know, the type of thing
14:15 you do go into different parts of the world
14:17 where conditions are not as good
14:20 as it is here, you know?
14:21 'Cause we're gonna look at some pictures
14:23 where you're in the jungles and different things like that.
14:25 Those are the types of kids that you want to have.
14:28 They don't mind running through a mud pothole
14:31 or not worry or what.
14:32 Just kind of give them a bath once a day
14:34 and just send it back outside.
14:35 Well, we were in Nicaragua.
14:37 They actually were
14:38 in their trunks most of the time.
14:40 Semi-trunks. Yeah, semi-trunks.
14:41 Yeah, sorry.
14:44 Thanks for clarifying.
14:48 Some of that too, I'm sure.
14:50 You lock them in the trunk. That's fine.
14:54 But we understand, but let's kind of dive into,
14:57 I've got to find out
14:59 what made you interested in aviation at all?
15:02 Yeah. Yeah.
15:03 So I didn't really have an awful big aviation
15:07 interest starting off.
15:09 And my late teen years,
15:12 I started getting introduced to medical missionary work
15:15 and that's kinda what led me to Wildwood.
15:17 And while I was there
15:18 I wasn't sure what I wanted to do.
15:20 I was 18, I guess, by that point.
15:22 And I wasn't sure for sure
15:24 what I wanted to put my back into
15:26 and learn and do for God.
15:27 I want to do something for God.
15:29 But while there I was working in maintenance,
15:31 I was a work scholarship student
15:32 for their six-month medical missionary course,
15:35 the college of health evangelism they call it.
15:37 And so while working there,
15:39 I was working in maintenance
15:40 and one of my coworkers was a guy named
15:43 Arthur from Germany
15:45 and he was getting flight train,
15:46 going to the mission field and
15:48 really enthusiastic about it.
15:49 That's just kind of guy he is,
15:50 but he was excited about aviation.
15:52 And he said, Josh,
15:53 there's a big need in the mission field
15:54 for pilots that something,
15:56 I'd never been to the mission field
15:57 and just read stories.
15:58 But he said, it's an ongoing need
16:00 and it's easy to get planes,
16:01 but it's hard to get people to fly them.
16:03 So that's why he felt the burden.
16:05 He wanted to put his weight into that.
16:06 So he was all excited and we worked away.
16:08 Well, that's interesting,
16:10 but not, I was really interested
16:11 in at the point.
16:13 But once he got his private pilot's license,
16:14 he had to build hours to work
16:16 towards his commercial license.
16:18 So once he got his private,
16:19 he called me and said, Josh, you wanna go some place?
16:21 I gotta build some hours. Let's go some place flying.
16:23 I remember I was working
16:25 in the health food store at that time
16:26 and I was on the phone with him.
16:27 He said, Where do you want to go?
16:29 It was coming close to Thanksgiving.
16:30 So I asked him if he could fly me home
16:32 for Thanksgiving,
16:33 which is about to Kentucky, yeah.
16:34 So this is from Wildwood,
16:36 Georgia around Chattanooga area.
16:37 Yeah.
16:38 So it take about maybe about five hours
16:40 to get home typically.
16:42 But in a small plane took up two and a half hours.
16:45 So he's like, you know,
16:47 he planned it all out and make a real special.
16:49 He said, we'll get up early in the morning.
16:50 We'll see the sunrise,
16:51 we'll get your home by the morning
16:53 and to the little airport.
16:54 So we got up, you know, crack a dawn
16:55 and flew out of Collegedale airport there.
16:57 Yes. And I enrolled paper 140.
17:00 Okay. And landed there.
17:03 But in flight, I got the full feel of,
17:05 the full experience
17:07 grabbed the yoke and everything.
17:08 And it was kind of intimidating,
17:09 but I just thought how neat it was to be
17:11 able to be at another location, you know, on our schedule in
17:15 an expedient amount of time.
17:17 So we flew there real quickly.
17:19 And I just thought to myself,
17:20 if there's a need for people to do this,
17:22 I'm willing to do this for God.
17:25 Amen.
17:26 So that's kind of where the interest sprang from.
17:29 Oh, my. That's exciting.
17:31 And you had no interest in aviation whatsoever.
17:34 Nothing prior.
17:35 No previous real experience to count.
17:37 Nobody in my family did aviation at all.
17:39 So it was bare bones from scratch.
17:42 Not even computer piloting?
17:44 I think I played a couple of games,
17:45 you know, that's what I did.
17:47 But now, how did the Lord provide for that?
17:49 'Cause I know there...
17:51 As I'm looking at, you know,
17:52 'cause when you talk about pilot's license
17:54 and getting all that kind of training,
17:55 that could be pretty steep and expensive.
17:57 Yeah. Oh. yeah.
17:59 Because God opened the way.
18:00 So at that point I had no idea,
18:02 you know, I had nothing to reference it to
18:04 'cause I had no previous experience.
18:06 I didn't know how expensive it was,
18:07 but I knew it probably wasn't cheap.
18:09 I didn't have money to do really anything
18:11 as far as training goes,
18:13 but Arthur told me, he's like, you know,
18:14 God really opened door for me to do this.
18:16 I know that it's His will,
18:17 He can open the doors for you too.
18:19 That's right. Amen.
18:20 And it wasn't in the same way for him that
18:21 it was for me that God open the doors and,
18:25 you know, God leads people different ways,
18:27 but eventually God opened the same doors
18:29 and maybe a few additional ones
18:31 for me that He did for my friend Arthur.
18:34 So I initially started looking
18:38 for training in Michigan
18:40 and I was up there doing training for a while.
18:42 It was awful cold.
18:43 I was by myself,
18:44 living in a little apartment there.
18:46 And I started wondering
18:47 if there was better options back home.
18:49 So I checked out a closer airport
18:52 to where my mom lived down in Kentucky.
18:54 I found options were cheaper, construction was cheaper.
18:57 And I started thinking,
18:58 'cause at that point I was doing gutters to pay
19:00 for my housing as well as some flight train.
19:04 So I wanted to get actually in the business of aviation
19:07 to really learn it
19:08 'cause I was learning gutters in the same way
19:09 I was trying to fly
19:11 and I'd get all into aviation and really get a background.
19:13 What do you mean gutters? Oh, yeah.
19:15 Gutter installation, rain gutters.
19:16 Okay. Got you. Rain gutters.
19:18 Okay. Rain gutters.
19:19 Great boss, great people.
19:21 I was working for up in the Detroit Metro area,
19:24 but it wasn't, they would want to get into.
19:25 Right.
19:26 You gonna spend time learning this
19:28 and then it pays the bills,
19:29 but not really want to do is lifelong goal.
19:31 So we went and called back home
19:33 and asked about a job at a small airport
19:36 and talked to the airport manager
19:38 and he said,
19:39 well, it's funny you should call.
19:40 We have a guy who's a line, the line guy,
19:42 our line service technician or refueler essentially that
19:45 just broke his hand and we might be
19:48 looking for somebody here in near future.
19:50 So it kind of gave me a little glimmer of hope
19:52 and that was basically
19:54 all I had and I moved back home
19:55 within a month of that, for that job.
19:58 And I interviewed at the airport
20:01 once I got there and there wasn't work just yet.
20:03 The airport managers say once business picks up a little bit,
20:06 we'll give you a call.
20:07 So at that point I was like, well, what do I for now.
20:10 So I was just kind of tooling my thumbs
20:11 for a couple of weeks,
20:13 but then a fellow church member,
20:15 he's a contractor.
20:16 He had just built a house.
20:18 And in the fall of that year, it was, this was summer.
20:22 But a house, that same house got a tree
20:24 that fell on top of it.
20:25 And so the guy who built it,
20:27 my friend got the insurance job
20:28 to repair the house and he needed some help.
20:31 So he invited me to help him.
20:33 And that provided a work to the day that
20:36 I started work at the airport.
20:37 Wow. The Lord provide.
20:39 I hadn't had any word back from the airport,
20:41 you know, about that job.
20:42 And I was like scrambling, checking out options,
20:44 calling people,
20:45 I'm trying to figure out what to do.
20:47 And then one day I got two voicemails
20:49 and I didn't have good cell reception
20:51 where I was at.
20:52 So I climbed up on the roof of this house,
20:54 you know, trying to get these voicemails.
20:55 And it was two, one was from the airport saying
20:57 if you want a job show up on Monday.
20:59 And the other one was from just the day that
21:01 she got her visa to come to the States.
21:04 So after a while of waiting and, you know,
21:07 and really bite my nails, I had two good news.
21:09 Things happen in one instance.
21:12 And you also had bad news too, with your parents, right?
21:15 Yeah.
21:18 Looking around out the airport story.
21:19 You know, I got the job at the airport
21:21 and through that job,
21:22 I was able to get free instruction
21:26 from instructors that I made friends with.
21:28 I was able to use the aircraft
21:29 and just pay for the price of the fuel,
21:31 which cuts the price at about third of the price
21:34 you usually had to pay.
21:35 It's awesome.
21:36 So those two things, that's kind of how I was
21:38 able to get the flight training.
21:40 And I was able to get my maintenance licenses
21:42 through the apprenticeship.
21:45 You go to a school and pay 20, 50,000 for that,
21:48 but I got paid to do it.
21:49 God blessing. Wow.
21:51 He got paid to do it. That's a blessing.
21:52 What a blessing? See.
21:54 the thing about what we're hearing is the Lord
21:56 sees where you're headed
21:57 and He is kind of like clearing the path,
22:00 moving all the mountains
22:02 and the trees out of the way
22:03 and getting you ready for something that
22:05 now you look back on and you could see,
22:08 you climbed up to the roof of the house
22:10 and you got two of
22:11 the most important calls in your life.
22:14 You went up higher.
22:16 Take off, no pun intended,
22:17 but that's amazing how the Lord does that.
22:20 And so you've been with AWA,
22:23 but you were talking about that bad news.
22:25 I want to kind of get to that.
22:26 That was a kind of a kink in the journey you were taking.
22:29 So yeah, as we're pursuing the license as well,
22:31 just after I got my private pilot's license
22:34 that was 2000.
22:35 Yeah, on that same time frame.
22:39 My mom had developed cancer
22:40 while I was working on my pilot's license,
22:42 skin cancer and, the following summer
22:45 after I got my license, she passed away from it.
22:47 So sad.
22:49 And then the following month, I think that was June
22:51 and then July, my father passed away
22:53 from a heart attack.
22:54 Wow. Wow.
22:56 They weren't together.
22:57 They were divorced when I was young age,
22:58 but we were actually at the time
23:00 living with my father.
23:01 We were away doing some promotion stuff with AWA,
23:03 Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
23:04 Okay. But we...
23:07 We had a call. Yeah, we had a call.
23:08 We couldn't reach him in and elder went in
23:10 and checked in and he had a heart attack
23:13 there at home.
23:15 But you know, the doors, the Lord,
23:17 the beautiful thing about it is, you know,
23:19 when you're living for the Lord, you know,
23:20 you'll see your loved ones again.
23:22 A neat story here.
23:25 He had joined Adventist Church
23:27 whenever him and my mom got married.
23:29 But then left the church kind of disgruntled with the church
23:32 because of the relationship
23:33 there are falling out in different things.
23:35 But he moved to Kentucky just two years, basically,
23:39 maybe a little less than two years before he passed.
23:41 And eventually started coming to church with me.
23:43 Really?
23:45 And got relationship with the head elder
23:46 and they hang out lot.
23:48 And then they started going door to door
23:49 and handed out a literature and all stuff.
23:51 Doing special music. Special music.
23:53 And eventually he got baptized. What?
23:54 Amen.
23:55 Just a matter of months later is when he passed.
23:57 He was very excited.
23:58 He was gonna have a grandson, both of them.
24:01 He was at the church on that Sunday,
24:04 before he passed.
24:05 And one of the matriarchs from the church told us
24:07 later that he has a...
24:09 Your dad told me that, that Sunday he's so happy.
24:12 He's so happy he could die.
24:16 He says that? Yeah.
24:18 Wow. Wow.
24:19 Well, the beautiful thing
24:21 is he closed his eyes in the Lord.
24:22 And that's the main thing about it.
24:24 Yeah. We have another picture.
24:25 I want you to...
24:26 I want to bring it up and just have you explain
24:28 what we're seeing
24:29 'cause there are those who are...
24:30 Yeah. Yeah.
24:32 So a little more current.
24:33 This is just here recently going down to Nicaragua
24:37 for our pre-deployment trip.
24:39 So we went down there with the project manager
24:41 and his wife Ray and Julia Young,
24:43 they're on the left there, they're from Canada.
24:46 And so we went down there to get a feel
24:48 for the mission field essentially,
24:49 where we're going to be serving.
24:51 So we were down there for three months
24:53 with the Young's kind of getting some things
24:55 in order with the base and whatnot
24:57 and getting operations going,
24:58 had been dormant for a little bit,
24:59 not too awful long,
25:01 but we got a feel for the country.
25:02 Got a feel for the needs,
25:04 got to get networked a little bit
25:05 with some of the personalities down
25:07 there we'll be working along with,
25:08 and a really good experience.
25:09 We were expecting to go for about a month.
25:11 But Pastor Ric said three months
25:13 is probably what you're gonna need.
25:15 I was almost thrown back of that.
25:17 That's literally. That's a long trip there.
25:20 You don't think about bills back home,
25:21 but God provided and three months was
25:23 just what we needed just to get some things
25:25 in order down there
25:27 as well as get a feel for the country.
25:28 And your wife speaks Spanish. So that's a big help.
25:30 Yeah. Yeah.
25:32 Yeah. That was nice.
25:33 Even though they speak Miskito there too a lot.
25:35 And I did not understand anything what that Miskito.
25:38 It's a local indigenous people down there
25:40 and they speak in
25:42 different languages in Nicaragua,
25:43 as well as...
25:44 Miskito. Miskito.
25:46 Miskito. It sounds like the bug.
25:47 Yeah. I was thinking that.
25:49 That's what I was thinking.
25:50 I was kind of preventing myself from going there,
25:52 but it sounds so close.
25:54 Yeah. That's very interesting. Yeah.
25:55 So project in Nicaragua is in the Northeastern portion
25:58 of Nicaragua in the mountains.
25:59 So it's isolated. It's not...
26:01 And I believe Yosi is the speck in the jungle,
26:05 but found like a kind of a...
26:07 Pine Savannah. Yes.
26:08 Savannah pines. A lot of pines.
26:10 Yeah.
26:11 Not too far away from the jungle,
26:13 but we're just in, through the end of
26:14 the pines savannah there and a lot of pine trees,
26:18 I had never seen any place like it.
26:19 Probably hills. Where do you land?
26:20 Is there a landing strip? Yes.
26:22 Yeah. There's a little landing strip.
26:23 It used to be an old air force base actually.
26:25 Wow.
26:26 Before that, I believe it serves the,
26:28 some of the gringos as they call them down there
26:31 where they would export pine sap from these pine trees.
26:34 I think, I'm not sure if it came with the gringos
26:36 or came with the military, of the air strip.
26:38 But at a really decent airstrip,
26:40 Ric serving long for its sap.
26:42 And how, what was your mode of transportation
26:45 after you land your mode of transportation?
26:48 How far did you have to travel to get to the places
26:51 that you were in the ministry?
26:52 Yeah.
26:53 That's a long story, so we'll start it from the top.
26:57 But getting down there, you know,
26:58 we had to get COVID test to get it down there,
27:00 'cause of the pandemic.
27:02 We didn't know how we were going to do that.
27:04 'Cause we were in route to North Carolina,
27:05 but we found out that
27:07 wasn't gonna work in North Carolina.
27:08 We stopped at a random place in West Virginia
27:09 and a place opened up right where we stopped for lunch
27:12 to take a COVID test that had the turn around time
27:14 that we needed to get the results
27:16 turned into the airlines.
27:17 So then once we got on the airlines,
27:19 we flew from Raleigh to Miami,
27:21 spent the night in Miami, flew from Miami to Managua,
27:24 which is the capital of Nicaragua.
27:26 On the other side of the country.
27:27 On the Pacific side, the Western side.
27:29 Wow.
27:30 So we spent about a week
27:31 there taking care of some business.
27:33 And then we took a van from Managua
27:34 to the opposite coast on the Atlantic side,
27:37 Eastern coast that took about 18 hours I think with...
27:41 By road? Yeah.
27:42 By road. Did you have your boys?
27:45 Yes. Of course.
27:46 That must've been a lot of fun.
27:48 It was a little rough too, because you know,
27:52 you're new to the country, your stomach,
27:54 it's also getting used to the new place.
27:57 So our older one here was puking, yeah.
28:01 But we made it.
28:03 Now, you think you have a short video clip
28:05 of the drive going on.
28:07 We have a little bit of, a little bit of a clip
28:08 from showing the roads and also some transportation.
28:11 So once we got to the coast,
28:13 we had another two hour drive,
28:15 two and a half hour drive up to the base
28:17 and we took the small base truck,
28:18 I think we have a picture of the truck.
28:20 It was a video, some of the rough roads there.
28:23 This isn't the same road to the base,
28:25 but it's the...
28:26 Another stretch of it,
28:27 basically shows a little bit of how it looks,
28:29 a lot of pine trees,
28:30 potholes would just jump out, it's kind of...
28:33 You did 18 hours of something like that?
28:35 Something like that. Yeah.
28:37 Well some of it was paved.
28:38 Some of it was like that, we should say.
28:40 The road to the base from the coastal city is about
28:44 like that dirt, the whole way,
28:46 potholes, intermittently.
28:47 Sometimes it'd be a nice stretch of smooth,
28:49 you know, get up speed.
28:51 And then all of a sudden there's a pothole.
28:52 You'll be winding it up
28:54 trying to not hit the heads on the roof.
28:56 Yeah. No potty stops anywhere?
28:58 Rest areas? Anywhere you want.
29:02 It's very remote, you know,
29:03 so there's not a whole lot of traffic
29:05 through the area you'll, you'll come through a village
29:07 and then it'll be just open and nowhere for a long time.
29:10 That's a plus of having boys. Very flexible.
29:15 What will you be doing in Nicaragua?
29:18 So basically the project's
29:19 been there for about 12 years, roughly.
29:22 It's been serving mainly
29:24 through medivacs to the local little towns
29:26 and airstrips to a bigger hospital.
29:29 That's what the main bread and butter is.
29:31 So the places are hard to get to,
29:34 the roads are even rougher than what you saw in the video
29:36 there sometimes, especially in the rainy season
29:37 with the traffic,
29:39 the potholes just get to be lakes.
29:41 And it's hard to get places.
29:43 One of the main hospitals we serve is three hours away
29:45 from the main hospital on the coast.
29:48 That's, you know, when the roads
29:49 are in good condition.
29:50 So a lot of times we'll be taking people
29:52 from that hospital to the larger hospital,
29:54 as well as some other neighboring communities
29:56 to the larger hospital.
29:57 The main hospital will be served,
29:59 it's about 35 minutes drive away
30:01 from where the basis is a small hospital.
30:03 Very, very much limited as to what they can do there.
30:06 Any kind of major surgery has to go to the coast
30:09 and they service 114 communities,
30:12 a very large amount.
30:14 And some of those communities can be,
30:15 you know, just maybe five families to,
30:17 you know, maybe hundreds of people.
30:20 Maybe they have a clinic, maybe they don't,
30:22 but they service a lot of folks.
30:23 And some of those folks need to travel hours
30:25 by either trail road or boat to get to them,
30:29 let alone to the big hospital.
30:30 Wow.
30:31 So our main thing is to take and make that region
30:33 a little smaller by air travel
30:35 so they can get to the healthcare
30:36 that they need in a expedient manner.
30:38 Yeah.
30:39 You have a picture of some of the families
30:40 that you minister to there.
30:42 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
30:43 Because it's pretty interesting.
30:45 Let's look at that right now
30:46 and just tell us what we're looking at here?
30:47 So this family here has
30:49 a little bit of a background story.
30:51 I think the lady in the back underneath the house
30:53 there was the main lady that we helped.
30:57 We got a call from the community nurse
30:58 saying that we have a serious case
31:00 needs to the hospital.
31:01 And this was after Sabbath on Saturday,
31:04 we were with Ray and Julie with popcorn smoothies,
31:07 some typical Adventist thing.
31:10 And she got a call from a nurse and said,
31:12 there's a serious case needs to get the hospital ASAP.
31:14 And this was after dark.
31:16 So I got on the truck, went over to these folks' house
31:18 and pull up and there's maybe 15 people
31:22 all gathered around and I'm guessing family.
31:24 And they come out and there's two young guys
31:26 carrying this lady.
31:27 And she looks by all evidence is kind of unresponsive.
31:30 She was limp as they were carrying her.
31:32 And they carried her to the vehicle.
31:34 And she lay there in the back
31:35 with a lady supporting her head in her lap
31:38 and the nurse got in the front.
31:39 So we head to the hospital
31:41 and she was just motionless, didn't make a noise.
31:43 Until about halfway to the hospital,
31:45 she started vomiting and it would just dry-heave.
31:49 And I talked to the nurse with the limited Spanish I have
31:52 and ask her, you know, what she has.
31:54 And she said on,
31:55 I don't know if she's just doing this all day.
31:58 And so she was just dry-heaving.
31:59 I was like, man, I wish she stopped
32:00 'cause I know how that can be painful.
32:02 That's where I sent up a prayer.
32:04 And she after maybe a minute she stopped.
32:08 Amen.
32:09 And once we got to the hospital,
32:10 she maybe dry-heaved a couple more times,
32:12 but then it stopped
32:13 and they were able to care for her.
32:14 And as you can see there, she was fine.
32:16 But the way she looked,
32:17 I didn't know if she was gonna make it out,
32:19 but she was fine.
32:20 So later on Yosi is like, well,
32:21 we want to do some outreach in the community.
32:23 And we want to hand out some books.
32:25 And I said, well, why don't we visit the people
32:26 we were able to service?
32:28 See how they're doing.
32:29 They should probably be a little more
32:31 open to receiving a book.
32:32 So we were giving out Steps to Christ
32:34 to a number of families that we had helped.
32:35 And they were one of them and they received us warmly.
32:38 Now, Bruce angel flights. What is that?
32:42 Well, angel flights or humanitarian flights,
32:45 basically, they're just different organizations
32:47 throughout the US but Adventist World Aviation
32:50 based in Smithfield, North Carolina.
32:51 We do angel flights based on people calling us, pastors,
32:56 community, friends,
32:58 or that need a patient that perhaps they have cancer.
33:02 Perhaps they have a serious medical appointment.
33:04 I guess not for emergency care,
33:06 but if they have to get to their appointment,
33:07 it's a long distance
33:09 and they don't have a means to do it.
33:11 A small plane can make the difference.
33:12 For example, recently we I think Josh
33:16 just did a flight for individual from Asheville,
33:18 North Carolina to Arkansas. Yeah.
33:20 And that was... Was this the lady with cancer?
33:22 No, that was a different one, yeah.
33:24 So angel flights don't necessarily
33:26 even have to be a medical flight,
33:27 could be for any other humanitarian reason.
33:29 Yes.
33:30 And this lady was a prime example.
33:31 She was coming from a domestic abuse situation
33:34 and needed to get to a court date back
33:38 where the situation had occurred.
33:39 And that was gonna be a 10-hour drive.
33:41 Wow.
33:42 She didn't have a vehicle
33:43 and public transport can be kind of rough,
33:45 especially with COVID right now.
33:46 Emotional. Yeah.
33:47 Emotional situation as well.
33:49 And an airline, you know,
33:50 couldn't get her very close to where she was at.
33:52 So having somebody pick her up was gonna be an issue.
33:54 So she got in touch with through some friends.
33:57 Actually they got in touch for her,
33:59 with Pastor Ric and he gave me a call
34:01 and that week all planned out,
34:04 I cut trees for a living for myself.
34:06 And I had a week all planned out what to do.
34:08 And he gives me a call and said, hey,
34:10 can you do an angel flight?
34:12 Well, I got a whole week planned out,
34:13 you know, and I hate changing directions,
34:15 but I know what it's like
34:17 to have a door opened up when I really need one.
34:18 So I want it to be that door for her and be God's hands.
34:21 And plus I had just cut my finger
34:23 sharpening the chainsaw.
34:25 It was steel? Yeah.
34:26 Steel chainsaw.
34:28 So I think it probably should have
34:30 had a chance to heal anyway.
34:32 So that was a good chance
34:33 to have a low traffic from my finger.
34:35 And so was able to go
34:37 to North Carolina pickup the plane,
34:40 pick her up in Asheville and take her to Arkansas.
34:42 I think you have a picture of her?
34:43 Yeah.
34:45 Later we have a picture
34:46 there staying next to the plane,
34:48 actually was the same plane
34:49 it's gonna be going to Nicaragua.
34:50 Okay.
34:52 So Cessna 182, it's been outfitted
34:53 with a larger tires and modified leading edge
34:54 to make it go slower with ease,
34:57 longer wings, modified interior as well, more utilitarian.
35:00 Okay.
35:01 So you've made the wings a little longer?
35:02 Yeah. Yeah.
35:04 Okay. I like that.
35:05 You fly that all the way in Nicaragua.
35:06 Yeah. It's gonna be flying.
35:08 Yeah.
35:09 So some places, you know,
35:10 planes need to be put in containers,
35:12 maybe if we're going to the South Pacific.
35:13 How many times do you have to stop?
35:15 Do you have an idea? Oh, that's a good question.
35:17 We'll say four or rough out four maybe, maybe more.
35:20 About six-hour flight range. It's six hours supplements.
35:24 With the tanks it has, withour exhilarated tanks
35:26 it's more like four hours probably safely.
35:29 And your wife joins you in humanitarian role.
35:33 You do humanitarian work with AWA?
35:36 She wears a lot of hats. Yeah.
35:38 I do a lot of the house whenever.
35:41 Well, when I was in Nicaragua there they speak Spanish.
35:44 So they'll come and I'll see what they need.
35:47 How can we help them?
35:50 And, yeah, take care of whatever else
35:52 is needed to be taken.
35:54 She's a cook and a mother, a translator, hostess.
35:59 Yeah. A lot of different things.
36:00 There was one thing
36:02 I said every person that comes here.
36:04 At least I wanna give them a good cup of water,
36:07 'cause sometimes they don't drink water
36:09 and they have like a headache
36:10 and we just tell them, have you drink water?
36:13 And they're like, oh no.
36:15 So everyone that came,
36:16 I was like, would you like some water?
36:18 Oh, you know, I think yes. Aqua.
36:21 Aqua, yeah.
36:22 Refrigerator with some, where can you
36:24 throw a couple of ice cubes in there if they want it.
36:25 Yeah. They enjoy that.
36:27 It's filtered, comes out of the well, you know, so.
36:29 They're happy to receive a nice cold glass.
36:31 Amen. Now, Bruce, how was it...
36:33 How were these funded, how were these projects funded?
36:35 Well, we're self-supporting ministry independent ministry
36:38 and we have to,
36:39 100% of our funds are raised by missionaries
36:42 and through donations,
36:44 through charitable giving whether it's churches,
36:47 whether it's individuals
36:48 or even companies have contribute
36:50 to Adventist World Aviation.
36:52 So the missionaries, as part of their calling, see,
36:56 we have people sometimes ask us,
36:57 we have pilots and mechanics calls us.
36:59 Do you have any jobs available?
37:00 'Cause I'm an Adventist and I want a job.
37:02 Well, we have very few jobs.
37:05 We have lots of opportunities for callings.
37:08 If you're being called to serve,
37:10 if you're being called, we need you.
37:12 There you go.
37:14 So if you're a pilot mechanic
37:16 or if you feel God's calling you
37:17 to serve in a foreign mission field,
37:19 we have opportunities available.
37:21 Please reach out and contact us
37:22 because we want people that are called.
37:25 'cause when you're called,
37:26 but God calls, He enables and we just heard...
37:29 Provides. Provides, right.
37:31 We heard how He provided
37:32 for Josh in many of his situations.
37:35 And He provides for every single person
37:37 He calls to service.
37:38 If people feel they've being
37:40 called to service through Adventist World Aviation,
37:41 to serve abroad, we are interested.
37:44 Wow. How many people on your staff?
37:46 Very few...
37:48 As far as on the staff,
37:49 we have a total of seven people.
37:51 Just seven. Seven.
37:52 But we have a lot of host country nationals,
37:55 whether it's in Guyana, Nicaragua, or the Philippines.
37:58 Oh, yes.
37:59 Or, and some people in Alaska too,
38:01 that help us in a volunteer capacity.
38:04 And so then we have another probably
38:06 eight or ten people that help us in that capacity.
38:09 And we have lots of volunteers in the United States
38:11 who help us in a part-time capacity as well.
38:14 So that's how you're funded by the people,right?
38:17 By God, through inspired people
38:19 to support the work
38:20 'cause we believe if you're,
38:22 God's calling a support team and this is what Josh and Yosi,
38:25 their road to the mission field
38:27 from here forward is to grow a support team,
38:30 a prayer team.
38:31 People they can pray for them,
38:32 people they want to support them financially
38:34 and other means to get them to the mission field
38:37 where God is calling them to work.
38:38 And the support team is a vital part of all the work
38:41 we do because they get behind the work.
38:44 And, you know,
38:45 as far as doing the work in the actual field,
38:47 it's going to be Josh and Yosi.
38:48 But the people back here
38:50 when they pray for them and get behind them.
38:51 Yes.
38:52 It makes a big difference 'cause often when we spend time
38:54 in the Philippines, when we spent time in Guyana,
38:57 we are constantly in contact with our support team.
38:58 Wow.
39:00 And we have a difficult situation.
39:01 We need to have prayed for.
39:03 We need support for, people will donate.
39:06 Like we find out a lady needs something,
39:08 an item, a generator.
39:10 And we have people who are very benevolent,
39:13 very giving
39:15 and they will donate a generator,
39:16 ship it over, or they'll donate funds.
39:18 So we can purchase one locally or food for people that
39:21 we've had some tribal people
39:23 that came across the border from Venezuela to Guyana
39:25 that we had to help out.
39:26 But people donated the resources
39:28 to provide for the ministry.
39:29 Now, do you need doctors or nurses on the mission field?
39:33 Well, one of our future...
39:36 One of your future guest here, he's a chiropractor
39:39 and we don't have a specific need
39:41 for a position that says doctor or nurses,
39:44 but those skills that God enables you with,
39:46 He can use for His work.
39:48 I believe in my heart that He calls people with,
39:52 He enables them with gifts and talents,
39:54 but He also gives them,
39:55 He takes the gifts and resources that you have,
39:58 and He will multiply them in the mission field
40:00 He's calling you to serve Him.
40:01 Yes. Well, I'm gonna ask.
40:03 Yeah, I'll tell you, I'm gonna ask Josh a question
40:05 'cause I love that.
40:06 This is amazing to see how long this has been around.
40:08 How many years again?
40:10 1995. 1995.
40:12 It's beautiful. I mean, I don't know.
40:15 I might, I don't know, honey, maybe I just,
40:17 if the Lord provides an opportunity to fly.
40:19 My friend Doug. He's always wanted to fly.
40:20 We can use you.
40:22 My friend Doug Batchelor says, he says you could probably
40:24 pass this test really easily, anyway but...
40:26 I hope your flight is simulative.
40:28 I mean, I'm not gonna boast about knowing all that,
40:31 but a lot of it is the terminologies
40:33 and understanding what these things mean,
40:34 but it's quite a different story
40:36 when you go from a computer to a actual plane.
40:37 Exactly.
40:38 Because hey, you know, it's a little windy up here.
40:42 You have some video.
40:43 I want to just, you know,
40:45 you can't press the button pause
40:46 and wipe your forehead, you keep going.
40:48 You have some video of you flying there.
40:49 I'm pretty interested in that. Yeah.
40:51 Yeah. Here's a...
40:53 This is after I dropped this lady off
40:54 of the angel flight flying through some clouds.
40:57 Yeah. I had a lot of storms.
40:59 I was flying through getting out there to
41:01 where I dropped her off.
41:02 And then coming back, I had a lot as well,
41:05 a big line of storms
41:06 and I talked to the ATC air traffic controller
41:10 and I was like, is there a way that
41:11 you can get me around these storms?
41:13 And he was like, well,
41:15 I don't really see anything if you're asking me.
41:18 In other words, great, navigate around the best you can.
41:21 Yeah, yes, I'm looking at a feed
41:23 of the weather on my iPad there.
41:26 And I saw an airport that was just right
41:28 where the precipitation was starting.
41:30 I was coming up behind the storms,
41:31 so I went down.
41:33 I was going to land at that airport
41:34 and just kind of reevaluate.
41:36 So I flew over the airport just under the clouds.
41:40 And then I started seeing it opened up to the south.
41:43 So I went to the south as it was kind of opening up
41:45 and I started climbing.
41:47 I said, well, it's opening enough here.
41:48 So at the story of my life,
41:50 you know, that God opened the door
41:52 and the precipitation was lighter.
41:54 I went between a couple layers.
41:55 I got back on the,
41:56 on my flight plan with air traffic control
41:58 and continued on my way.
41:59 But as the video kind of illustrates, you know,
42:01 sometimes we don't know
42:03 when the next hole is gonna to happen,
42:05 where you see some blue sky.
42:06 But we just had to go forward with instruments, you know,
42:08 knowing that God was leading us thus far
42:10 and to continue to how we were going.
42:12 And then the blue skies happened
42:13 and smooth there after that.
42:16 So that was, I feel great. Yes, that's beautiful.
42:19 Your website, I went on there and it's what I like is it says
42:24 building bridges for saving lives.
42:27 Amen. I love that.
42:28 And then also what I like is you go...
42:30 You boldly go where no missionary
42:34 has gone before.
42:35 I mean, you see the jungles.
42:37 I looked on that video on I'm looking,
42:39 wow, look at those.
42:42 What do you call that?
42:43 The runways that you have to land on.
42:46 Some of them are pretty bumpy, huh?
42:48 Yeah.
42:49 We try to be as, as ready for
42:52 whatever we might experience when we go there.
42:54 And we have planes that are outfitted
42:55 to experience those kinds of things
42:57 without falling apart.
42:58 But I had the advantage
43:00 of where I did my flight training,
43:01 where I'm from, well,
43:03 there's a number of grass airstrips
43:04 I was able to practice on.
43:06 I think some of them were shut down now,
43:07 but they were on different grades and whatnot.
43:09 Some of them were on a hill basically.
43:12 Landing up hill?
43:13 Yeah, landing up hill, taking off,
43:15 going downhill, you turn around and go down the other way.
43:17 So we had that advantage
43:18 of being able to practice a little bit,
43:21 but airplanes can go in some places
43:22 where you might not think possible.
43:24 Now you also fly supplies to villages.
43:27 Talk about some of those experiences.
43:28 Yeah.
43:29 So basically aviation, our main tool is medivacs,
43:33 but we're really trying to meet people's needs where,
43:35 wherever and whatever they may be.
43:37 So if that is, you know,
43:38 that's developed transporting some food,
43:41 that's transporting gospel workers and pastors.
43:43 Antivenom.
43:45 Antivenom is another example
43:46 that was done down there in Nicaragua.
43:48 And there was a boy in one of these remote villages
43:50 who got bit by fer-de-lance,
43:52 a very venomous viper, viper down there.
43:56 And the missionary that was down there was,
43:59 I was at ends of what to do.
44:01 And because it wasn't a runway that was open for him,
44:05 they had a runway at the village,
44:06 but it wasn't open.
44:08 So what he did was he took the antivenom
44:09 and he wrapped it in some cushions
44:11 and he flew low and slow
44:12 over this runway and booted it out.
44:15 And they were able to get those
44:16 and had enough antivenom vials that survived to help the boy.
44:18 Wow.
44:20 And the government approved the entrance
44:22 on the airstrip the next day
44:24 he was able to do carry the kid out of there.
44:27 That's another thing in Nicaragua.
44:28 We have to, of course, everywhere,
44:30 you have to have permission before you take off a flight.
44:31 That's right.
44:33 And there, they have,
44:34 they also have to coordinate with the army.
44:36 They bring out armed soldiers
44:39 and are surrounding in the airfield.
44:41 So they're looking for nefarious individuals
44:44 that may not have good intentions,
44:47 like drug traffickers, contraband, et cetera.
44:49 It's all part of that code over drug motions
44:51 in South America to North America.
44:53 If I heard you correctly, he didn't really land.
44:55 He just flew a few knots
44:56 above stall just to give the things out.
44:58 Yeah.
45:01 A lot different ways to use a tool of aviation.
45:03 You know, there's a reason we're there.
45:04 There's just that infrastructure
45:06 that people rely upon over here.
45:08 Where I try to explain to people
45:10 in North America is we liked
45:11 the thought of having a helicopter
45:12 within a short distance to take us
45:14 to a hospital in a hurry if we need to.
45:16 But over there, they just don't have
45:18 the infrastructure where that's in place.
45:20 So we're there with airplanes
45:22 and basically provide the same service
45:24 that we enjoy over here getting us around traffic.
45:26 And around here, it's pretty flat,
45:28 but in Kentucky, there's a lot of hills
45:30 that can really slow you down.
45:31 Yeah.
45:32 Over there, you either don't have a road
45:34 or maybe they have the road in the hills.
45:35 So it provides a way for them
45:37 to get the hospital in timely manner.
45:38 And with medical is a golden hour.
45:41 So when somebody is in an emergent condition,
45:43 if you can get them to life-saving care
45:44 within an hour,
45:46 you have a great chance of them surviving.
45:47 So we tried to make that
45:49 as our goal is to try to get them
45:51 within one hour to definitive medical care.
45:53 So you've saved many lives? Yes, we have.
45:56 Yeah, Adventist World Aviation
45:58 has helped save many lives in the countries that we serve.
45:59 Praise God.
46:01 And the average cost of a flight is about how much?
46:03 It's about $350. Okay.
46:04 For fuel burning, if you're going to,
46:06 it depends on distance and everything else.
46:07 But if you're looking at an average, it's about $350.
46:10 Now, before our program winds up,
46:11 talk about some of the projects you have and some of the things
46:13 that are ahead of you that the viewers
46:17 and listeners of this program could participate in.
46:19 Yeah.
46:20 Because AWR is, as you said, support AWA.
46:23 Did I just say AWR? Yeah.
46:25 I don't know.
46:26 My wife works for radio, but AWA, just to be exact.
46:31 Talk about some of these projects
46:33 that the audience could participate in.
46:35 Well, if there's anybody
46:37 that feels call to serve, of course we need people.
46:39 But also the projects
46:40 that we have to support as Josh and Yosi Fix.
46:43 They are trying to raise
46:44 a support team to go to Nicaragua.
46:48 And to do that,
46:49 they can't get there unless they have the supporters
46:51 to help them.
46:52 And to do that, means people that are willing to pray,
46:54 be a prayer partner, financially support them
46:57 for our project in Nicaragua.
46:59 So we can make a difference in people's lives
47:01 and lead them to a relationship with Jesus Christ.
47:04 And that's the ultimate goal in every project we have.
47:06 We have Alaska where Jim Kincaid,
47:08 Pastor Kincaid operates up there.
47:10 He needs support to help the Native Americans there.
47:12 We have project in Guyana
47:14 where we have the Rene family heading
47:16 to in a couple months and they will be needing
47:20 the same kind of support to go there.
47:21 We can't do any operation without a support team.
47:25 What do you think your future is as you look down the road,
47:28 because you talked about when you were given the,
47:30 you anticipating a month
47:32 and it turned into three months.
47:33 What kind of preparation do you feel is ahead of you
47:35 to get ready for the Nicaragua projects?
47:39 Yeah.
47:40 Most of our preparation has already been done.
47:42 You know, fully licensed
47:43 as far as a pilot mechanic goes,
47:45 or we have some training we're doing
47:46 with the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventist
47:48 to prepare us a little intercultural training,
47:50 which we're working through, which is a great asset.
47:54 Besides that not a whole lot stands between us
47:57 and in Nicaragua and getting there.
47:59 Wow.
48:00 Truly mission missionaries, you know, like you,
48:04 we have in our church, we have a missionary couple
48:07 that we help, our whole church.
48:08 Yeah.
48:10 Because once you leave America, once you leave the mainland,
48:12 I could say, you get away from a lot of the conveniences
48:15 that are maybe just a short drive away.
48:18 And you go into an area
48:19 where high-speed internet, what's that?
48:24 No.
48:25 A lot of self-reliance has to be practiced.
48:27 I mean, we learned a lot of that down in Nicaragua.
48:28 A lot of food has to be cooked from scratch.
48:30 You know, some things we can't have.
48:32 One of my favorite foods is haystacks, you know?
48:35 Oh, no. Okay.
48:37 We made it happen maybe like one time, I think.
48:40 Amazingly, we had a hard time finding lettuce, right?
48:42 We always do.
48:44 In South America, lettuce is not prevalent.
48:45 Yeah.
48:47 Even Guyana, Philippines, this is not prevalent there.
48:49 It's hard to find it.
48:50 It's a common staple around here,
48:52 but we found one guy, who sold some.
48:54 Yeah.
48:55 But, you know, instead of getting bread,
48:57 you know, like we would at a supermarket here,
48:59 Yosi was making the bread, like she in the picture.
49:02 We had a lot of beans and rice and different things,
49:04 learning the recipes of the local area,
49:07 what's at hand.
49:09 So flexibility is a big characteristic
49:10 of missionaries.
49:12 You have to be flexible time, situations adaptable.
49:16 So like Gumby, if you remember the old Gumby.
49:18 Yeah. Gumby.
49:20 So if you're flexible, like Gumby and you can bend
49:22 and turn and adjust without breaking,
49:25 that's really the recipe, you know, for success,
49:28 of course being one with God being,
49:30 keeping your eyes on Christ and being flexible,
49:33 because be willing to be
49:35 interrupted throughout your day.
49:37 You have plans like Josh talked about
49:38 and then being interrupted
49:40 'cause God places people in your path.
49:41 That's a pastor's life.
49:43 The whole two things are planned.
49:45 One of the prime examples,
49:46 I think to give biblically is the good Samaritan,
49:48 willing to be interrupted.
49:50 Amen.
49:51 You know, and to help somebody that's in need.
49:53 And that's the gospel
49:54 with some legs on it, basically.
49:55 That's right.
49:57 It's easy to talk about, you know,
49:58 doctrines and everything.
49:59 And those are very important, but you know,
50:01 it's a different legs in the gospel.
50:02 And put in selfless love into practice
50:05 is where it really meets the road.
50:06 Now, what about your boys?
50:08 How do they adjust to this missionary lifestyle?
50:13 Well, they seem to like it,
50:14 especially 'cause they can play out there.
50:16 The base is set in a country side.
50:21 And it's very private, a lot of trees.
50:23 So they like that they can just play outside.
50:26 Do they speak Spanish?
50:28 They're learning. They're learning.
50:29 They need to learn somewhat.
50:31 In Nicaragua they might learn Miskito.
50:32 Yeah, that too.
50:34 We have a day labor there that is a local
50:36 and speaks Miskito and Spanish as well.
50:38 So he might be teaching them.
50:40 They really like playing with him,
50:41 but the other boys had some different experiences
50:44 that really like, they like riding around
50:46 on the motorcycle with me.
50:47 They didn't miss their bicycles.
50:49 They didn't bring their bicycles obviously.
50:51 So we'll have to find them some bicycles to play on there.
50:53 Wow.
50:55 But you do have Bible studies and you have baptisms.
50:57 Yeah. Yeah.
50:59 So we support the local church very strongly.
51:01 There's a small church in the local community there.
51:05 Not too far down the way,
51:06 there's a like a layman training
51:09 kind of center for the local laypeople.
51:11 And so we've helped them
51:13 for sure get to where they need to be.
51:15 Help them build some churches and whatnot.
51:17 Yes.
51:18 Every country that we work in, we work closely
51:20 with the local conference and pastors.
51:22 We believe in working alongside them
51:24 and helping them with their mission
51:26 to serve the people.
51:27 Amen. Beautiful.
51:29 And I want to make sure that our audience,
51:30 our viewing audience has the information
51:32 that you would need to be able to get in touch with AWA.
51:36 And then on the other side of the news break,
51:38 we'll be back for a few closing thoughts.
51:41 Yes.
51:43 If you would like to contact or know more about
51:45 Adventist World Aviation,
51:47 you can write to them at 3457, Swift Creek Road,
51:51 Corp-3, Smithfield, North Carolina 27577.
51:57 You can call them at (919) 938-2920.
52:03 You can also visit their website at flyaway.org
52:08 That's flyaway.org
52:13 You can also email them at info@flyawa.org
52:18 That's info@flyawa.org


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