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00:01 As you're well aware,
00:03 we're living in unprecedented times.
00:05 Join us now for Today special program.
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Mending broken people
00:23 I want to spend my life
00:29 Removing pain
00:34 Lord, let my words
00:39 Heal a heart that hurts
00:44 I want to spend my life
00:50 Mending broken people
00:55 I want to spend my life
01:00 Mending broken people
01:15 Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today.
01:19 I'm Shelley Quinn.
01:20 I'm J.D. Quinn.
01:21 And we're so glad that you're joining us
01:23 as many of you do each and every day.
01:25 We have a fascinating couple with us today.
01:30 It's exciting to see
01:32 how God can tap the Marlboro Man
01:37 on the shoulder and bring him into His work.
01:41 God is so good to us.
01:43 And I wanted to start today with Revelation 18:4.
01:47 You know, there's so many people
01:51 who don't know anything about Jesus.
01:55 But there are so many wonderful Christians
01:58 in other churches that don't know His full truth.
02:03 And we believe that God has His people in every church.
02:08 And He says in Revelation 18:4, He says to them,
02:14 "Come out of her, come out of Babylon,
02:17 come out of this system of religion that is untrue.
02:22 Come out of her, My people."
02:25 So we're going to talk with a couple today,
02:27 get to know them a little bit better,
02:30 and find out what they're doing to help this loud cry.
02:36 J.D., you want to introduce our guests?
02:38 Most certainly, the Goss's G-O-S-S,
02:41 and we have Ron and we have Pat.
02:43 Yes.
02:44 What a lovely, lovely couple.
02:46 I mean, there's a difference in the personalities,
02:50 one's more aggressive than the other.
02:53 And I think that we both are looking toward Ron
02:55 as being aggressive.
02:56 What a man of God.
02:58 And it's interesting
03:00 whenever you told me what your past was,
03:03 where you were, and where you are today.
03:07 You were a law man, you were Chief of Police.
03:10 And so, and today,
03:11 you heard something from the Lord
03:13 that says maybe I need to reevaluate
03:17 for I am and who I am.
03:18 Amen.
03:19 And then you changed direction and you've done a mighty work
03:24 and been a mighty warrior for the kingdom of God.
03:26 And we're excited to get into this story.
03:28 Amen.
03:30 Before we do, I know, we know that you all love music.
03:34 We also know you love Ladye Love Smith.
03:37 So Ladye Love is going to sing for us.
03:39 What is it?
03:40 She's going to be singing, God gave the song.
03:56 You ask me why
04:00 My heart keeps singing
04:04 How can I sing
04:09 When things go wrong
04:14 For since I found
04:18 The source of music
04:23 I just can't help it
04:27 'Cause God gave the song
04:33 Come walk with me
04:37 Through fields and forests
04:41 We'll climb those hills
04:46 And still hear that song
04:51 For even hills
04:55 Resound with music
05:00 They just can't help it
05:04 'Cause God gave the song
05:10 And I see
05:11 I see
05:13 Because
05:14 Because
05:16 I'm happy
05:17 I'm happy
05:19 And I see
05:21 I see
05:22 Because
05:23 Because
05:25 I found
05:28 The source of music
05:32 And I just can't help it
05:37 'Cause God gave the song
05:41 For since I found
05:46 The source of music
05:50 I just can't help it
05:55 'Cause God gave the song
06:03 God gave the song
06:16 Well, Ladye Love is one of my favorite singers.
06:19 She is, she and Reggie
06:21 are just so on fire for the Lord
06:23 and they're so sweet.
06:24 They talk to everybody everywhere they go, don't they?
06:27 Make you look easy.
06:29 They do indeed.
06:30 Well, if you're joining us just a little late,
06:33 our special guests today are Ron and Pat Goss.
06:36 And they are the Co-directors for Project Restore.
06:40 But before we get into what God is doing
06:44 through them right now,
06:45 we want to get to know y'all just a little bit better.
06:48 So I'm going to start, ladies first.
06:51 Yes.
06:52 And, Pat, did you grow up in a Christian home?
06:54 Yes.
06:56 Tell us a little bit about your upbringing?
06:59 My father was a Methodist, and my mother was a Catholic.
07:02 Okay.
07:03 And they transferred from church to church
07:06 as I was growing up
07:07 until they came across a set of meetings
07:10 that they wanted to go to.
07:12 And they learned so much from the Bible.
07:15 And we became Adventist Christians.
07:18 Amen.
07:19 And the Lord guided us and directed us
07:22 and just grew up as an Adventist Christian,
07:26 went to Academy and went to college.
07:29 Praise God.
07:30 I thought the Lord would come before then,
07:33 but praise the Lord where we are now.
07:35 And we can share and get literature out
07:38 and do all kinds of things.
07:40 I'm blessed to have the husband I have.
07:41 Amen. Amen.
07:43 So let me ask you a question 'cause this is interesting.
07:45 You know, sometimes people will grow up in the church
07:48 and go through the church schools,
07:51 but it doesn't become real in their heart.
07:56 You know, God has no grandchildren,
07:59 only children.
08:00 So when did it become a real connection for you?
08:04 How old were you?
08:06 Probably about 11 or 12 years.
08:08 Really.
08:09 So you are one of those
08:10 that just connected immediately in.
08:12 Oh, yes.
08:13 Praise God.
08:15 And I had parents that were very, very dedicated
08:17 to the Lord.
08:18 Amen.
08:20 I mean, I remember my mother getting stuck, the car stuck,
08:23 and she said, "Well, we need to pray about this."
08:25 Amen.
08:27 And we prayed.
08:28 And then the car just moved on out.
08:31 And wherever we went,
08:33 my mother always had literature to hand out to people.
08:36 She'd even open the window in the car
08:39 and handed the material out.
08:42 And it was just so exciting to see.
08:45 Wonderful.
08:47 I was very blessed.
08:48 You are very blessed.
08:49 So how about you, Ron?
08:51 Did you grow up in a Christian home?
08:52 My mother was a Methodist.
08:54 My father was a Catholic, just the opposite to Pat.
08:57 How interesting.
08:58 Yes.
09:00 And my mother studied and found the Sabbath truth,
09:04 and she joined the Adventist Christian Church.
09:08 And when I was just quite young,
09:11 just a baby, but I was a rebel.
09:13 I was a prodigal son.
09:16 I had it all.
09:17 I never doubted the Adventist message.
09:20 Matter of fact, I've said in a bar room
09:22 and between drinking a Budweiser
09:25 and smoking a Marlboro and telling the guy next to me,
09:27 "Now if you're going to keep the true Sabbath,
09:29 it's Saturday, brother."
09:30 Amen.
09:32 So I've never doubted the truth.
09:33 I've always believed the truth of Adventism.
09:35 But it wasn't until my mid 30s
09:37 as I'm driving around a patrol car,
09:40 and the Holy Spirit spoke to me very audibly, and said,
09:44 "Ron, you've been locking up people long enough now,
09:46 it's time to go set some free."
09:48 Ooh! Wow.
09:49 Wow.
09:50 So I knew at that point, and it's a long, long story,
09:52 but how the Lord loves you so much
09:55 and just leads and guides
09:56 and directs every step of the way
09:58 and I am so grateful to Him
10:00 that He is long suffering and merciful.
10:02 You know I love when people say that.
10:06 And sometimes when I first came to 3ABN,
10:08 I'd say, "Well, the Lord said this,
10:10 or the Lord said that."
10:12 And people were like,
10:14 "She thinks she's hearing from God."
10:15 But you know, 1 Kings 19:12 says, talks about
10:18 the still small voice of the Lord that Elijah heard.
10:23 And when you think about it,
10:26 God's audible voice is compared to like,
10:30 many rivers and floods.
10:33 And it's so magnificent that people shook
10:36 when they heard this audible voice.
10:38 But I believe that the Spirit of the Lord
10:41 when He impresses a thought upon our mind,
10:44 He whispers to us. Yes.
10:46 Absolutely.
10:47 One day I was walking down the main road,
10:49 and the voice said to me, "Walk up in the field."
10:52 Well, they had just plowed the field,
10:54 and it had rained and it was muddy.
10:57 And I thought, "What am I hearing?
10:59 This is crazy.
11:00 And then it came to me again.
11:02 And so I thought, "Well, I better go up."
11:05 And I did and then a car came along and flipped over
11:08 where I would have been.
11:10 Oh, glory to God.
11:11 So we have to listen to what God says.
11:13 Amen.
11:14 And glory to God that you did.
11:16 Yes.
11:17 Okay.
11:18 So, Ron, you were in police work,
11:21 actually, you were a Chief of Police.
11:23 And he told us a story in the greenroom
11:25 how he's driving around Las Vegas in his Corvette,
11:29 had a beer in one hand,
11:31 and Marlboro in the other,
11:32 that's why I called him the Marlboro Man.
11:35 But then you hear
11:38 the Holy Spirit speaking to you.
11:40 Tell us how God took you, how he got your heart,
11:46 were you really ready
11:48 to give up all the vanities of the world?
11:51 Well there's the number of steps.
11:53 You know, the Lord takes us as we can handle it,
11:57 as we can feel with it.
11:58 He leads us, He's gentle, He's kind, He's loving.
12:01 And some things happen where someone
12:04 when I was working on the Sabbath,
12:06 and someone broke in the home
12:09 and they stole some different thing,
12:11 money I had saved for Las Vegas
12:13 and stole my wife's jewelry
12:15 except for the watch she'd wear,
12:17 every once in a while wanted to please my mom,
12:20 I'd go to church.
12:21 And it just started coming together,
12:24 piecing together and I knew
12:25 that the Lord was working on my heart.
12:29 And I used to love to hunt and fish,
12:31 and if I wasn't fishing and hunting,
12:32 I was looking for a place to fish and hunt.
12:35 Should have been born back in Daniel Boone's.
12:36 Yeah.
12:38 But, anyway, just the Lord step by step
12:43 and I said to the fellow that was driving
12:45 that pickup truck on the way back
12:46 from a deer hunting trip.
12:48 I said, "Bill, I think I'm going to quit,
12:49 give up deer hunting."
12:51 He said, "What?
12:52 You're going to quit deer hunting?
12:53 Are you going to quit hunting?"
12:55 I said, "No, I didn't say I was going to quit hunting."
12:56 I said, "I think I'm going to give up deer hunting.
12:57 I think I'll hunt souls for the Lord."
12:59 Oh, boy.
13:00 And for the next half hour, there wasn't another word said
13:03 as we drove along because I could not believe
13:06 that that came out of my mouth.
13:08 And I knew then that the Lord was working.
13:11 Step by step He brought me back
13:13 until I went to church in my new Corvette
13:18 and come in at 11:30 just when the sermon starts,
13:20 just about and preacher gave an altar call.
13:24 And again, the Holy Spirit spoke to my heart
13:26 that day and said, "Ron,
13:28 even you've been serving the devil long enough.
13:31 Choose to serve Me today or you're a lost man."
13:33 Just as clear as that.
13:35 And I said, "Lord, I've wasted all these years."
13:38 Cause I was in my mid 30s at that time,
13:41 "But if You'll have me, I'll serve You."
13:42 And He said, "I'll have you."
13:44 And I went forward that day,
13:46 and life hasn't been the same since
13:48 and had us do a ministry called Project Restore,
13:52 where we're doing everything
13:53 we can by His grace to lead others
13:55 to the lovely Jesus that we serve.
13:57 Amen.
13:58 So tell us about Project Restore?
14:01 Project Restore, I was telling, as we were talking
14:05 at the green room a little earlier,
14:07 Pat and I were in town,
14:08 one of the town's after we moved to Virginia,
14:11 I had turned my badge in '86, and I said,
14:15 "Do you see that fellow in the corner,
14:17 standing on the corner there up the street?"
14:19 He said, "Yeah."
14:21 So well, I've locked him up several times.
14:23 So I used to, you know,
14:25 they used to call me the pistol packing preacher.
14:28 They can see you carry, you know, everywhere you go,
14:32 and then as I got closer to the Lord,
14:34 the Lord spoke to me and basically said,
14:37 "The angel Lord encamped around about them that fear him,
14:40 and he's well enough to take care of us.
14:44 You don't need it."
14:45 Amen.
14:46 So as I was contemplating this and doing that morning,
14:50 I jumped in the shower, had the radio play,
14:52 and a commercial or something came on,
14:54 I don't know if it came from the radio or not,
14:55 I'm not sure but this is what I heard,
14:58 "Put away your sword and pick up your pen."
15:02 I had no idea what that meant at that time.
15:05 But time after that
15:08 is when the Lord called us to do
15:10 Project Restore and Project Restore,
15:13 as a ministry before the great and terrible day
15:17 of the Lord, Elijah will return.
15:19 We know that's the Elijah message.
15:22 How long he hopped between two opinions,
15:23 if it be God then serve God,
15:25 if it be Baal then serve Baal,
15:26 but you can no longer sit on the fence,
15:28 because Satan owns the fence.
15:30 So what we're doing is, by God's grace,
15:33 we started into the printing ministry,
15:36 we don't have printing presses ourselves,
15:38 we have other ministry or other businesses do that.
15:42 And we connected with Dwight at Remnant Publication
15:45 to do different things.
15:46 But we've, Mom and Pop organization,
15:49 we've had the privilege of printing and distributing
15:55 over 75 million magazines,
15:57 32 page magazine four color.
16:00 But then we were impressed
16:02 to get out The Great Controversy,
16:05 the full text, Great Controversy
16:07 with the appendix,
16:08 because next to the Bible,
16:11 I believe it is the book of the hour.
16:12 Because she says of all my books,
16:15 even above The Desire of Ages and Steps to Christ,
16:18 she says above all my books, as wonderful as they are,
16:21 she says I want The Great Controversy
16:22 out more than any book I've ever written.
16:25 Because it depicts and shares not only the past,
16:30 but the present, and the future history
16:33 of what's about to take place.
16:35 And it's so well written that it's just a page turner,
16:38 you know, you just turn one page,
16:40 and you can't wait to get to the next page,
16:43 and fantastic.
16:46 For those of you at home,
16:47 if you're not familiar with The Great Controversy,
16:50 it was written by Ellen White,
16:52 and it is the history of the church.
16:55 It is the history of the Dark Ages.
16:57 And then it goes forward
16:59 at unfolding all of these things
17:02 that we see that prophecy,
17:06 many of the Bible prophecies have already been fulfilled,
17:10 but there are more coming.
17:11 And the interesting thing about The Great Controversy,
17:14 we know and you may know if you've watched 3ABN,
17:17 we've got some Pastor John Bradshaw,
17:21 Pastor David Asscherick
17:24 came into the church
17:28 by reading that book.
17:30 And Doug Batchelor,
17:32 that was a turning point for him
17:36 when he read The Great Controversy.
17:39 So it's a fascinating book, because anybody that's...
17:43 As you said, the way in which it's written,
17:46 it makes history come alive,
17:47 but you see Bible prophecy being fulfilled,
17:51 but then it's going forward.
17:53 So what, now when you said a mom and pop operation,
17:59 you are, Project Restore is a 501 (c) (3),
18:05 that means it's a nonprofit organization.
18:07 So this is a ministry.
18:09 And obviously,
18:12 if you've printed 75 million magazines,
18:16 and how many Great Controversies
18:18 have you printed?
18:19 Oh, we just ordered the paper
18:20 for the next five million books.
18:22 That's right.
18:23 And... How much paper does that take?
18:25 That's five million pounds.
18:27 Wow.
18:28 Okay.
18:29 And for those who are a little more practical minded that's...
18:34 12553 foot,
18:38 tractor trailer loads of paper.
18:39 Wow.
18:40 It's unbelievable.
18:42 That's the weight. That's right.
18:43 But if you put those tractor trailer,
18:44 you line them up on an interstate
18:46 and you just give a little safe distance in between,
18:48 that'd be two miles of tractor trailers pulling
18:51 that paper that's going to end up
18:53 being The Great Controversy,
18:54 the present truth,
18:56 which must get out to the world today.
18:58 Amen.
18:59 And I know the paper is...
19:01 For a mom and pop operation, that's not bad at all.
19:03 Is it? Praise God.
19:04 That'd be about 25 million books.
19:06 Yeah.
19:07 But the thing about it
19:09 is that you got your assignment...
19:12 Yes.
19:13 And you follow through.
19:15 You're still a mom and pop operation,
19:18 so you say and you...
19:22 It's there's no telling
19:23 how many souls have been touched.
19:26 Well, we know of a lot of people
19:28 because we get the testimonies
19:30 and we know many, many that have come in truth
19:33 and accepted in wanting to be Adventist Christians.
19:36 That's right.
19:38 And some, for instance, in South Carolina,
19:43 we went, had a speaking assignment down there
19:46 and we went to visit with an elderly lady,
19:48 we stayed with her and she had bulk mail
19:51 to the zip code around her church
19:53 and where she lived.
19:54 And so when Pat and I got there, she said,
19:56 "Oh, Ron, you know, it's been about 10 months
19:59 since the books gone out.
20:01 We're not hearing anything,
20:03 does it really make a difference?"
20:06 And I said, "Surely, the Word of God says
20:10 His Word will not come back void!"
20:12 Amen.
20:13 Period, exclamation point.
20:15 The Word of God says, "Cast the bread,
20:17 which is the Word of God on the waters,"
20:19 Revelation 17:15, "The people,
20:22 cast the bread upon the waters,
20:23 and after many days it shall return!"
20:26 Period, exclamation point.
20:28 Amen. Amen.
20:29 So the Sabbath I'm speaking here
20:30 comes a man by the name of Fred.
20:33 Fred's coming out of one of the Babylonian churches
20:36 that he belonged to at a time realized
20:37 that there was some confusion.
20:39 Okay, explain.
20:40 Let's pause for just a second
20:41 because we've got people watching...
20:43 Okay.
20:44 Who are saying,
20:46 "What do you mean Babylonian churches?
20:47 Explain what the Bible talks about in Revelation,
20:52 that Babylon is a religious system
20:58 of confusion.
21:00 It is taking part of God's truth,
21:03 but it's adding man's tradition.
21:06 And what did Jesus say to the people?
21:08 He said, "Hey, you are taking the doctrines of men
21:14 and making void the Word of God by them."
21:17 So that's what we're talking about.
21:19 That's what we're talking about.
21:20 We know the Tower of Babel,
21:22 and they all were speaking all these different languages,
21:23 nothing but confusion.
21:24 There's a lot of confusion, even though God has a people,
21:28 as you mentioned earlier in all denominations.
21:31 In Revelation 18:4
21:33 which you read come out of her My people,
21:35 don't be confused any longer.
21:37 And we believe as Adventist Christians
21:41 that we need to be the Paul Harveys
21:44 of Christianity.
21:45 Amen.
21:46 We need to give them the rest of the story.
21:48 Many other people in all different churches
21:52 love and know Jesus better than many of us.
21:56 They know Him even better,
21:58 but they haven't heard the rest of the story.
22:00 Yeah.
22:01 And that's where the Elijah message comes in.
22:03 And the rest of the story is all from the Bible.
22:06 It's all from the Bible.
22:07 So they haven't focused on that.
22:09 So here you are preaching and Fred walks in.
22:11 And Fred comes in, and he said,
22:13 "I've been reading The Great Controversy,
22:16 and I realize that Saturday,
22:19 the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Bible."
22:21 How?
22:22 "And I'm going to join here with some Sabbath keepers."
22:25 And so he came in.
22:26 So then he decided he was going to put an ad in the newspaper,
22:30 and put a picture of The Great Controversy,
22:33 and said that, "Maybe you read this book like I did,
22:36 and I started keeping the seventh day Sabbath,
22:38 and maybe you would like to as well,
22:40 and so we're inviting you to come."
22:42 And he gave the address of the church for them to come.
22:44 So when he goes over to the newspaper office
22:47 to get the ad, the lady that's helping him
22:51 with the ad that works at the newspaper office,
22:53 she said, "Well, my husband and I got the book in the mail
22:56 as well, and we've read The Great Controversy."
22:59 And so Fred invited them to church.
23:02 So they all three showed up
23:04 at the Seventh-day Adventist Church,
23:07 and they were having communion that day,
23:09 and they all participated in communion,
23:12 even the foot washing.
23:14 Amen.
23:15 So yes, we have the stories, we get letters,
23:18 we understand from people that are coming into the truth,
23:21 dedicating their lives to work for God as well, fully.
23:26 Okay, so Project Restore began when?
23:29 It actually began in '95, 1995 when first started.
23:33 Yes.
23:34 And you've sent out over 17 million magazines,
23:37 and now millions of copies of The Great Controversy.
23:41 Tell us how do you distribute?
23:45 I mean, it's amazing to me when God says, "Okay,
23:50 Ron, I'm tapping you on the shoulder,
23:52 Pat, I'm tapping you on the shoulder."
23:55 For two people running a ministry,
23:59 it's amazing what God's doing.
24:01 So tell us how you distribute,
24:04 how do you get the funds to do all of this?
24:06 Well, first of all, it said in our titles,
24:09 were the Co-directors...
24:10 Yes. Because Jesus is the Director.
24:12 Amen.
24:13 And we're safe as long as He's the Director.
24:15 Amen. Amen.
24:16 But we follow the guidelines
24:18 that are given to us.
24:19 If you go to volume nine
24:21 of the Testimonies for the Church
24:22 and I remind people,
24:24 it's Testimonies for the church,
24:26 not against the church.
24:28 It tells us, we go door-to-door,
24:30 it tells us that wherever travel is,
24:33 wherever there's thoroughfares I've traveled,
24:36 Jesus was in the midst because people were coming
24:39 from all different parts of the world.
24:41 And that's what we try to do.
24:43 And also it says through the mail,
24:46 so these are bulk mail throughout the mail.
24:49 We've just recently completed.
24:54 We did the whole state of West Virginia.
24:56 That's approximately 730,000 homes.
25:00 Every home brother there, whether they're the judge,
25:03 or whether they're rich or whether they're poor,
25:05 they all received The Great Controversy,
25:08 full text Great Controversy
25:10 with appendix to show the history.
25:11 You want to hold it.
25:12 So now I think they'll show a graphic of it.
25:16 I mean, this is a copy of it,
25:17 but I think they'll show up the graphic...
25:18 It's a beautiful cover.
25:20 Revelation 13 on the front cover.
25:22 Explain the cover,
25:23 because people are looking and you got to watch.
25:25 This isn't just a reflection.
25:27 If I show this,
25:29 and when I give this to say a Catholic priest,
25:32 immediately they know what it is.
25:33 It's the Capitol building, it has a reflecting pool,
25:37 and it reflects the basilica at the Vatican.
25:41 Yes.
25:42 In other words, the first beast,
25:44 or the second beast of Revelation 13,
25:46 what does it do?
25:47 It makes an image... Makes image to the beast.
25:49 It makes an image to the beast.
25:52 And it's this book is been,
25:56 we've had three different covers,
25:57 we did one for the Reformation,
26:01 the 500th year anniversary of the Reformation.
26:03 So we had a special cover.
26:05 And then we did one,
26:06 the first one we did was with the world
26:08 with the chess pieces.
26:09 And King Jesus wins.
26:12 Amen. Amen.
26:13 And, but this is the one I said to David,
26:18 Dwight's brother-in-law,
26:19 we worked on the cover together.
26:21 And I said, David, "I want a cover
26:23 that I never have to change it until Jesus comes.
26:25 Amen.
26:26 And the Lord gave us this cover.
26:29 There's no doubt
26:30 and I guess the Lord will have to forgive us
26:33 because we spent $5 to get a Vatican flag,
26:35 so we can make it lay out just right the picture
26:37 put it on the book, so.
26:39 Well, that's beautiful.
26:40 But anyway, we do that.
26:41 The state of Alaska has also been bulk mailed.
26:46 That was done by private,
26:48 you know, folks just picking up
26:50 wanting to order in bulk mail
26:52 through the whole state of Alaska,
26:53 which is not that large.
26:55 But the Conference of Indiana has got a little excited
27:00 about what happened in West Virginia.
27:01 And so they've called Dwight at Remnant and said,
27:05 "Listen, we want to look
27:06 into putting The Great Controversy
27:08 into every home in the state of Indiana.
27:11 Praise God.
27:12 So we're looking at about, probably somewhere around
27:15 about two and a half million homes,
27:17 but we've already done Indianapolis,
27:20 you know, that was about 450,000 homes.
27:23 And you've done a lot up in Washington DC.
27:26 Tell us about that?
27:28 And New York.
27:29 Well, let's, if I can go back just a little bit.
27:33 Some of the cities that have been done
27:35 are like Chicago and San Francisco,
27:37 we put a million books in New York City.
27:39 People say, "Oh, they're just going to throw them away,
27:42 just throw them away."
27:43 I said, "Listen, if one person out of 100
27:45 reads this book, it makes a difference in their lives.
27:49 That's 10,000 precious souls for the kingdom."
27:51 Amen.
27:52 But we've done many other cities
27:54 like Philadelphia and there was a police detective
27:58 and raised Roman Catholic
28:00 all through his life came up to the schools.
28:03 He got to hold the book and he said,
28:06 and I've talked him on the phone several times.
28:08 And he said to me, "Ron," he said,
28:10 he said, "I got that book."
28:12 He said, "I didn't know this if from another denomination
28:14 are putting these out.
28:15 He said, but I was praying Lord, should I?
28:17 You know, should I read this book?
28:20 Or maybe I'll just read one chapter.
28:23 And you let me know
28:24 rather I should read the rest of it," He said.
28:25 Just randomly took the book,
28:27 and he opened it up and there's can our dead speak to us,
28:32 was the chapter he opened to.
28:34 Yeah.
28:35 He called me up and we've talked on the phone,
28:37 he said, "Then I realize
28:41 that everyone who's gone to sleep
28:45 are waiting for the resurrection.
28:46 Amen.
28:48 They're not ministering to us right now.
28:49 They're sleeping, waiting.
28:51 And he said, "I told every police officer
28:53 in the state of Philadelphia that I could contact,
28:55 you got to read this book.
28:58 You got to read this book."
29:00 And I just had to point out because its Bible based.
29:05 Yes.
29:06 There's so much scripture in it.
29:07 I remember I was writing a book with Danny and I co-wrote,
29:11 it was Antichrist Agenda,
29:13 and then it was Ten Commandments Twice Removed,
29:15 and my sister would call me and, Ron, it was so funny.
29:19 One day, she calls
29:21 and I couldn't get her to quit calling actually.
29:24 So when she called,
29:26 what I would do is read her the chapter
29:28 I had worked on that day, and I got to John 5:28-29,
29:34 where the Bible says, or Jesus says,
29:38 "All who are in their graves."
29:42 He said, "The day is coming
29:43 when all who are in their graves
29:45 will hear My voice.
29:46 Some will come forward
29:48 to the resurrection of righteous,
29:49 some to the resurrection of condemnation."
29:52 I'm reading that and I just go on past it.
29:54 My sister goes, "Wait a minute.
29:57 Break up.
29:58 Break that again.
29:59 What do you mean?
30:01 What did He mean?"
30:03 And I started to explain.
30:04 She was so upset.
30:07 She was screaming at me.
30:09 You mean mama's not in heaven, my grandma's not in heaven.
30:13 And you know what happened?
30:14 I told her,
30:16 "If you will just get out your Strong's Concordance,
30:19 look up everything about rest,
30:21 sleep, death, and resurrection,"
30:23 I said, "You'll see it's true."
30:26 She hung up on me, screaming.
30:29 Six hours later, she called me back.
30:33 She'd been in the Strong's Concordance.
30:35 Amen.
30:36 She found the truth in it's like, she said, "Well,
30:39 why didn't so and so teach us, why doesn't so and so."
30:43 So it's amazing that this man,
30:47 reared to Catholic would open to that chapter,
30:51 and accept the truth that fast.
30:53 But it's all backed up by Scripture.
30:56 It's not just somebody's thoughts.
30:58 And we get calls and things of people
31:01 that have read the book and said it,
31:03 it transformed my life.
31:04 Amen.
31:06 What this will do, when people read this,
31:08 it will encourage and we've heard it
31:10 over and over again.
31:11 It will encourage people to go to the Bible
31:14 and then read the Bible.
31:16 Absolutely. That's right.
31:17 We were just in Walmart, Wally World, aka Walmart,
31:22 as they say, and we pray everywhere we go.
31:25 And, you know, where you got to have ammunition
31:28 wherever you go, right?
31:30 You've got to have the Word of God,
31:31 and then you pray and ask the Lord to lead you to people.
31:33 And so we went into there and I met a gentleman
31:37 and he had something on his T shirt,
31:40 something that looked like a flag a little bit.
31:42 And I said, "Is that a flag?"
31:43 I said, "You know, it's good."
31:44 See what that flag on or whatever,
31:46 just to get in a conversation.
31:48 And we started talking, man, he says, "I can't believe
31:50 what's happening in our world right now.
31:53 Everything's such a mess."
31:54 He said, "Matter of fact," he says,
31:56 "I opened my Bible last night,
31:58 I went to the Book of Revelation,
31:59 I'm trying to, you know, see what this is all about."
32:02 His name was Bernard and I said,
32:03 "Bernard, guess what?"
32:05 I said, "My wife and I just prayed in the parking lot
32:07 before you came in here that the Lord would lead us
32:09 to someone who's seeking
32:11 and wanting to know God's truth in His Word."
32:14 I said, "How's it feel
32:15 to be a part of the answer to prayer?"
32:17 He shook my hand and thanked,
32:18 I gave him The Great Controversy.
32:20 "I will read it,"
32:21 he told me two or three times, he will read it.
32:23 We know that God will give us
32:25 the providential meetings with people.
32:27 We have not because we ask not.
32:30 Amen.
32:31 We ask, He will provide.
32:33 If we seek, we shall find, if we knock, He will open.
32:37 But this is what we're doing all.
32:40 Back to your question,
32:41 what we're doing is through the mail,
32:44 door-to-door.
32:45 Our plans are right now and I've got to get
32:48 with the Georgia Cumberland Conference,
32:50 but what we're hoping to do,
32:52 is like I'm an ex law man,
32:54 so what we do is we have what we call SWAT teams,
32:56 Swift Witness Action Teams.
32:59 And what we want to do
33:00 is we want to go into the city of Atlanta,
33:04 instead of bulk mailing it,
33:06 we want to have SWAT team members
33:09 going door-to-door, door-to-door,
33:12 we're told in page 612, "I saw the servants of God,
33:17 with their faces lighted up, with holy zeal,
33:21 going from place to place with a third angel's message,
33:26 and the power of God is being poured out."
33:28 And then she goes on to say,
33:30 "The publication's has done its work.
33:34 Long story.
33:35 Now the people come in from everywhere."
33:38 Amen.
33:40 So we know the printed page, just,
33:43 if you just think about Martin Luther in 1517,
33:47 and he took a piece of literature,
33:49 he put some things on paper hang,
33:51 hung it to the church door at Wittenberg.
33:53 In a week it went through all through Germany.
33:55 Within several weeks,
33:57 it went all through Christendom.
33:59 He didn't Facebook, he didn't Twitter,
34:01 he didn't tweet, it wasn't on Fox or CNN.
34:03 That's right.
34:05 And it went all to the Christian world.
34:07 And I believe that through this book,
34:11 through this message, there's given,
34:13 the past the present and the future.
34:15 I really believe that sooner or later,
34:20 it's going to strike a nerve.
34:22 And this thing is going to go like fire in a stubble
34:24 because it's going to make the news.
34:26 It's going to make the news.
34:28 We're told that they're going to try to condemn God's Word
34:31 here at the end.
34:33 And when it does,
34:34 we need to have as much literature out there
34:37 as we possibly can beforehand.
34:39 You remember, not long ago
34:41 when they were canceling some of the different books.
34:44 People are getting cancelled out like Dr. Seuss.
34:47 What happened after they canceled Dr. Seuss books?
34:51 Within a couple of months,
34:52 they sold more books than they'd ever sold before.
34:55 Because, when people were told they couldn't have it...
34:57 They wanted it. They wanted it.
34:58 That's right.
35:00 This is the way it's going to be,
35:01 I believe, with The Great Controversy.
35:03 Meaningful, absolutely amazes me is that
35:05 when did she write this book?
35:08 In the 1880s.
35:09 1880s?
35:11 And is this apropos or more so
35:13 probably times a thousand today than it was back then?
35:16 Oh, yes.
35:17 I mean, it's just a... It's a must read.
35:20 Well, I think, you know, I remember talking
35:22 with David Asscherick was studying to be a doctor.
35:25 He's, David Asscherick's one of the...
35:27 He's an Adventist Christian evangelist and teacher,
35:31 but he was studying to be a doctor.
35:34 So he was a smart boy, we'll put it that way.
35:38 And he gets a copy of this book.
35:40 And he said, here he is reading the history
35:44 of the Dark Ages and everything.
35:45 And he would go and verify the history.
35:50 And the beauty of this is its history
35:53 written with the Scriptures that support
35:56 where all of this was prophesied
35:58 that it would happen.
36:00 And so all of a sudden,
36:02 he said the history was accurate,
36:04 but the Bible just melded so perfectly with this,
36:08 that he realized that prophecy was true.
36:13 So then, as you walk through these things,
36:16 then you realize the rest,
36:18 and we're seeing prophecy fulfilled,
36:21 I mean, left and right daily.
36:24 But you see that it is going to happen,
36:29 as the Bible says it happens,
36:30 and that's the beauty of the book.
36:32 That's right.
36:33 Well, there're chapters in there.
36:34 Religious liberty is restricted.
36:37 The impending conflict,
36:39 when it deals with the law and order
36:42 just being falling apart,
36:44 where it talks about the calamities,
36:46 you know, the storms, the floods, the fires.
36:49 It talks about the political corruption.
36:51 It talks about all these different things,
36:53 they're going to be transpiring
36:55 just before the return of our Lord.
36:57 And He said, "When you see this,
36:58 and this, and this, and this,
37:00 because I'm even at the door.
37:02 Look up for your redemption draweth nigh."
37:04 Hallelujah.
37:06 We're excited, folks, Jesus is coming soon.
37:08 Amen. Amen.
37:09 And we need to warn the world.
37:10 But now, let's talk about, you mentioned that,
37:13 I mean, because what amazes me about God
37:17 is that He's called the two of you
37:20 together to work on this ministry.
37:22 Amen.
37:24 But as Ron said,
37:25 when God calls you to something,
37:27 He's going to see through it.
37:28 So He does have people waiting in the wings.
37:31 I mean, to me, it was a huge leap of faith
37:34 to call Dwight Hall at Remnant Publications
37:36 and say, "Hey, give me five million pounds paper,"
37:40 however many pounds of paper.
37:42 But I asked you in the green room,
37:46 "How do you get your funding?"
37:47 And you said, "A lot of your funding
37:50 is coming in from non-Adventists."
37:53 Tell us about the $100,000
37:55 check you got in the mail?
37:56 Well, after we made the decision,
37:59 because we stepped out in faith,
38:00 of course, you know, we're told we think too small
38:04 when it comes to God's work.
38:07 We restrict God's work
38:08 because we're looking at circum...
38:09 We put Him in a box.
38:11 We're looking at circumstances.
38:12 We got to quit looking at the circumstances,
38:13 we got to look at what He's promised,
38:16 and His promises aren't limited.
38:18 There's no limit to the promises of God.
38:20 But after we made the decision
38:23 to step out and just say, "Okay,
38:25 Dwight, see what you can find out
38:27 to get five million pounds of paper,
38:29 want five million more books."
38:30 Sooner or later,
38:32 we're not going to be able to get the paper,
38:33 we might not be able to get printed.
38:36 And as soon as that happened, I received,
38:39 we received $100,000 check from 34 year old young man.
38:44 Amen. Okay.
38:45 Wow.
38:46 I didn't know it was coming, but God did.
38:48 Amen.
38:49 And then another man called me...
38:50 And he wasn't a Seventh-day Adventist...
38:52 He was, he's an Adventist.
38:53 He, but he just what turned him around...
38:55 Was the book.
38:56 Was The Great Controversy.
38:58 He read The Great Controversy book,
39:01 and it turned him around.
39:03 And he was excited about what he was learning from that.
39:06 And now he's on fire for the Lord,
39:09 wants to do whatever we can to help him.
39:11 Another man called and said,
39:15 "My uncle died and a bunch of first cousins
39:20 are getting inheritance."
39:22 And he says, "I want every penny of that
39:24 to go into The Great Controversy...
39:25 Praise God.
39:26 Which will probably be about maybe 3 to $400,000.
39:29 Of course, that's not a drop in a bucket,
39:32 but when you're dealing
39:33 with that many billions of dollars,
39:36 but it's a great help, that's for sure.
39:38 Amen.
39:39 But I would say three of the top donors
39:44 that we've ever had are from non-Adventist.
39:47 Praise God.
39:48 All right, so if somebody were to go to you,
39:52 well, first of all, I want to ask you
39:53 where you got your title,
39:55 but you can go to ProjectRestore.com
39:58 That's their website,
40:00 ProjectRestore.com
40:02 And does it lists all of the various things
40:06 'cause you've done...
40:07 Well, I must confess, I'm not a computer person.
40:10 Okay.
40:11 I have a hard time just turning one on, okay?
40:14 I'm in the mid-70s so...
40:15 It's age related.
40:17 Right.
40:18 Now you can give a three year old,
40:21 you know, iPad and they can wiz through it.
40:24 But so it hasn't really been updated
40:27 as much as I'd love to see it updated.
40:29 So a lot of it is not on, you know, on there right now.
40:31 But we need to definitely get it updated.
40:33 But just main thing we need is we need prayer.
40:37 Amen.
40:39 A lot of prayer, a lot of power.
40:40 A little prayer, a little power.
40:42 No prayer, no power.
40:43 We need prayer.
40:45 God, He owns the cattle on a thousand hills,
40:49 and He owns the gold underneath them there hills too.
40:51 Correct?
40:53 Yeah. Right.
40:54 And so He will impress people, and we encourage,
40:56 we lean to let people know what we're doing,
40:59 the reasons why we're doing it, and seeking the help.
41:02 And a lot of folks today do not,
41:06 they don't see the importance of the printed page,
41:10 as much as they used to many, many, especially
41:13 a lot of the younger folks coming along.
41:15 And by the way, people tell us all the time,
41:18 "Nobody reads books.
41:20 They get the electronic stuff."
41:22 You know...
41:24 So, go ahead. Go ahead.
41:25 I just going to say, I just have to tell you this,
41:28 Scott Ritsema just did a program here on 3ABN,
41:31 and he brought all of this data
41:33 to support his commentary.
41:37 But all of the research shows, if you are reading online,
41:43 if you're reading on your phone or on an iPad or your computer,
41:48 you retain 50% less
41:52 than when you're reading a hardback book.
41:55 Agree with it.
41:56 Yes.
41:58 And so, you know, it's interesting
42:00 that the people that we're seeing now,
42:03 the younger generation,
42:05 they're actually, and forgive me
42:07 for saying this, but it's true,
42:09 and it's affecting the more we all get on media,
42:13 it gives you the attention span of a hummingbird,
42:16 you know, you kind of dip a little here.
42:19 I mean, when I read the news now,
42:21 you know, you used to sit with the newspaper,
42:24 you just zip through it in depth.
42:27 But...
42:28 The thing of it is, he said,
42:31 I took it out of USA Today sometime back,
42:33 but Hewlett Packard, which is a computer company,
42:36 did a survey of 2000 Facebook users,
42:39 which are computer users.
42:41 In the survey what they found out
42:43 was 83% of the people
42:46 preferred a book in hand.
42:51 I mean, how does Barnes and Noble,
42:53 how do they keep these big bookstores open in airports
42:55 if people don't read books any longer?
42:57 They do read the books.
42:59 Amen.
43:00 And we're finding that to be the case,
43:01 and we've got to get them out there
43:03 like the leaves of the autumn.
43:05 And she says I want this book.
43:08 She equates it to more valuable than gold and silver.
43:11 And of all my books, I want this book out, she says.
43:15 And we're told that many, many are going to come
43:19 into God's message for this time,
43:22 as a result of that book,
43:24 more than we can possibly understand now
43:27 of what we see today.
43:28 We certainly know it.
43:30 Pat, how has the focus on this project
43:35 as you all have been working together
43:38 under the Lord's direction?
43:40 He is your director, you are the co-directors,
43:44 how has it changed your heart or your walk with the Lord
43:48 when you see these miracles happening
43:51 of people turning to the Lord
43:52 because of the book or funds coming in?
43:55 It's been so wonderful,
43:56 we draw closer and closer to the Lord.
43:59 It's just amazing, all the different people
44:02 that we've shared with when we go to the stores
44:05 and things like that.
44:07 Sometimes I'll see someone and I think,
44:08 "Oh, I need to give a book to them."
44:10 And then they've gone one direction,
44:12 I go another direction,
44:14 but the Lord brings us together,
44:15 and I share it with them.
44:17 And they're so excited.
44:18 And it just, it's better
44:22 than if someone would give me a million dollars.
44:24 I'd rather share a book
44:26 and make a difference in someone's life for eternity.
44:29 Amen.
44:30 Amen.
44:32 And you think about this man that's getting an inheritance.
44:35 I mean, there's not too many people
44:37 inheritance and just say,
44:40 "Hey, I want to put it all on this project.
44:43 But it is that important.
44:45 Yes, ma'am.
44:47 I had a great aunt that died.
44:51 And, well, her husband had died too.
44:54 And her daughter had died.
44:57 And so the money was given to cousins,
45:00 and I was one of the cousin.
45:02 And it was about 100,000, wasn't it overall?
45:05 Well, it started out with 25,000.
45:07 Yeah, and then more came.
45:09 And I thought, "Boy,
45:13 we need to put this in The Great Controversy fund."
45:15 But it's her money, it was given to her,
45:17 and she comes to me and says,
45:19 "I think we ought to put this money in Great Controversy."
45:21 Great Controversy. Yeah.
45:23 Then, hits upon another check...
45:26 Yeah.
45:27 75,000 from the same thing, and by God's grace,
45:31 we put that, because you can't outgive God, folks.
45:33 No, you can't.
45:35 Who's trying?
45:36 You cannot outgive God.
45:37 And God's taking care of us and watch over us...
45:39 Every step of the way.
45:41 Every step of the way.
45:42 But anyway, it ended up...
45:43 Everything's going to burn someday.
45:45 Yeah.
45:46 Ended up, she gave that to The Great Controversy fund,
45:48 and then it was a larger check than that.
45:50 Most of that went into The Great Controversy fund,
45:52 and we took some of it to pay off
45:54 some debt to be debt free.
45:57 But give and it should be given on to you.
46:00 Amen.
46:02 Press down, overflowing.
46:03 What other books do you also get our other materials?
46:08 We know that is The Great Controversy.
46:10 I mean...
46:12 Well, we did the hardback,
46:13 I don't know if they can show that on the screen
46:14 if you hold those up.
46:16 Go ahead, Shelley.
46:17 One's red, one there's the blue,
46:19 when they've got on the screen.
46:20 These are gorgeous.
46:21 Fantastic blue for boy?
46:23 Yeah. Yeah.
46:24 Right up on the screen.
46:25 And red for heart.
46:27 There we go right there.
46:28 And the thing, the thing of it is,
46:30 is that we've learned because we go into Washington,
46:34 before the pandemic started,
46:36 we go into Washington DC, at least a couple times a year.
46:40 Our purpose is to get
46:42 the illustrated Great Controversy
46:43 into the hands of people in the House and the Senate.
46:46 And, boy, God's given you some real success...
46:49 Well, we could share names of people
46:52 that you read about and see on the news every single day.
46:55 That's right.
46:56 But as we said before, you don't want to give,
47:01 you can't give a scooter to a Harley Davidson driver.
47:04 You got to have something quality.
47:06 So we did another hardback with quality,
47:10 because they need to put those on the shelves and keep them,
47:14 and we got a letter back from a former president
47:18 who sent us a letter back thanking us for the book.
47:20 Amen.
47:21 We got a letter from people like Lieutenant Governor,
47:24 former Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, says,
47:27 "Ron, I'm learning so much about church history.
47:30 I'm sharing it with my family
47:32 and holds a very special place in my library."
47:35 And we've had other Congressmen and people write us,
47:37 "Project Restore, if there's anything we can do
47:40 to help you in any way be sure."
47:42 Oh... Go ahead. I do need it.
47:46 We've only got four minutes.
47:47 And I got to ask you this question.
47:49 Okay.
47:50 If somebody is watching in there in Phoenix,
47:53 or they're in Albuquerque, or they're in Denver,
47:55 and they're saying, "You know what?
47:58 I've read this book, you're right,
48:00 it is something that needs to get out."
48:01 Because we do believe time is short.
48:04 Amen.
48:05 A loud cry hasn't quite come, we're going to see
48:08 the outpouring of the latter rain,
48:11 and then the loud cry.
48:13 But if somebody from another city is saying
48:15 that, what did they do?
48:17 Do they just contact you?
48:18 And we're going to put some contact information,
48:21 but can they just, they contact you
48:23 or Remnant Publications?
48:25 Who do they contact?
48:27 And or, and or both.
48:28 Okay. They can contact us.
48:30 Okay.
48:31 Again, we're mom and pop,
48:32 so we don't have a lot of staff to be.
48:34 But again, we've been working closely.
48:37 Dwight is a dear friend and his wife,
48:39 Deb for many years.
48:41 And, so the... He's an on fire guy for God.
48:44 He is. Yes.
48:45 Yeah. Praise the Lord.
48:47 If he wasn't, might have put some knots on him,
48:51 but we are closer together.
48:54 But if they wanted to bulk mail,
48:56 and if they want to help us to bulk mail,
48:58 say Indiana or any other bulk mailers,
49:00 or maybe they just want to do them,
49:01 the church with their church funds,
49:03 the outreach funds,
49:04 they might want to bulk mail around their zip codes,
49:06 around their towns.
49:07 That's right.
49:09 They can do that by calling us or calling Remnant Publications
49:13 and they can give us a zip code.
49:16 We can look them up and tell them exactly
49:18 how many residential addresses
49:20 there are in that particular zip code.
49:22 And...
49:24 So if they sponsored a bulk mail,
49:25 do they have to buy the books
49:27 or do they or do they just pay the postage for?
49:31 With the postage, it's over dollar per home,
49:37 but that include...
49:38 Wow, you can get this book out for a dollar?
49:42 Well, it's a dollar, about a dollar 40 right now,
49:44 I think it is because postage keeps going up.
49:46 I mean, it cost you 50 cents,
49:48 just 57 cents maybe or something like around.
49:51 But you can send the book, the paperback book out,
49:55 the postage, the handling, the mailing service,
49:57 everything, for around a dollar 40 cents per home.
50:01 And I'm going to tell you with inflation right now,
50:03 a dollar 40 is not much.
50:04 Yeah.
50:06 Right now that's all is. Yeah.
50:07 But it's going to get worse.
50:09 It's going to get worse.
50:10 Today is the day of salvation.
50:11 You need to get the message out.
50:13 Amen.
50:14 Things are happening so quickly.
50:17 We know that prophecy is being fulfilled,
50:20 it will continue to be fulfilled.
50:23 And we're going to take a short break here,
50:25 but I want, we're going to come back
50:27 for a final thought.
50:30 If I just want to before we put your address roll,
50:33 they can either contact you
50:35 or they can contact Remnant Publications
50:38 if they want to be part of this.
50:40 And you know, I've just believed
50:42 that the Holy Spirit is working on hearts.
50:45 And people are saying, maybe you've read this book,
50:48 and you know how powerful this book is.
50:52 And I think that what Ron and Pat,
50:55 what God has done with you
50:57 is He's given you that gift of faith
50:59 where you're stepping out on faith
51:01 to get the materials to make it all ready.
51:04 So all you have to do is you can contact them
51:09 or you can contact Remnant.
51:11 But this is a book that needs to get out
51:14 so that people can see
51:16 how history the Bible contains the history.
51:21 History just confirms prophecies what I'll say.
51:24 Amen.
51:26 But we see other prophecies that are unfolding now,
51:29 and we know history will confirm that as well.
51:31 But here's how you can get in touch
51:34 with Project Restore.
51:38 If you would like to contact
51:40 or know more about Project Restore,
51:41 you can write to them at PO Box 2000,
51:46 Locust Dale, Virginia 22948,
51:50 or you can call them
51:51 at (540) 661-9263.
51:57 That's (540) 661-9263.
52:02 You can also visit their website
52:03 at ProjectRestore.com
52:06 That's ProjectRestore.com
52:10 or you can send them an email
52:11 at staff@ProjectRestore.com


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