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Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY210056A
00:01 As you're well aware,
00:03 we're living in unprecedented times. 00:05 Join us now for Today special program. 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Mending broken people 00:23 I want to spend my life 00:29 Removing pain 00:34 Lord, let my words 00:39 Heal a heart that hurts 00:44 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 00:55 I want to spend my life 01:00 Mending broken people 01:15 Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:19 I'm Shelley Quinn. 01:20 I'm J.D. Quinn. 01:21 And we're so glad that you're joining us 01:23 as many of you do each and every day. 01:25 We have a fascinating couple with us today. 01:30 It's exciting to see 01:32 how God can tap the Marlboro Man 01:37 on the shoulder and bring him into His work. 01:41 God is so good to us. 01:43 And I wanted to start today with Revelation 18:4. 01:47 You know, there's so many people 01:51 who don't know anything about Jesus. 01:55 But there are so many wonderful Christians 01:58 in other churches that don't know His full truth. 02:03 And we believe that God has His people in every church. 02:08 And He says in Revelation 18:4, He says to them, 02:14 "Come out of her, come out of Babylon, 02:17 come out of this system of religion that is untrue. 02:22 Come out of her, My people." 02:25 So we're going to talk with a couple today, 02:27 get to know them a little bit better, 02:30 and find out what they're doing to help this loud cry. 02:36 J.D., you want to introduce our guests? 02:38 Most certainly, the Goss's G-O-S-S, 02:41 and we have Ron and we have Pat. 02:43 Yes. 02:44 What a lovely, lovely couple. 02:46 I mean, there's a difference in the personalities, 02:50 one's more aggressive than the other. 02:53 And I think that we both are looking toward Ron 02:55 as being aggressive. 02:56 What a man of God. 02:58 And it's interesting 03:00 whenever you told me what your past was, 03:03 where you were, and where you are today. 03:07 You were a law man, you were Chief of Police. 03:10 And so, and today, 03:11 you heard something from the Lord 03:13 that says maybe I need to reevaluate 03:17 for I am and who I am. 03:18 Amen. 03:19 And then you changed direction and you've done a mighty work 03:24 and been a mighty warrior for the kingdom of God. 03:26 And we're excited to get into this story. 03:28 Amen. 03:30 Before we do, I know, we know that you all love music. 03:34 We also know you love Ladye Love Smith. 03:37 So Ladye Love is going to sing for us. 03:39 What is it? 03:40 She's going to be singing, God gave the song. 03:56 You ask me why 04:00 My heart keeps singing 04:04 How can I sing 04:09 When things go wrong 04:14 For since I found 04:18 The source of music 04:23 I just can't help it 04:27 'Cause God gave the song 04:33 Come walk with me 04:37 Through fields and forests 04:41 We'll climb those hills 04:46 And still hear that song 04:51 For even hills 04:55 Resound with music 05:00 They just can't help it 05:04 'Cause God gave the song 05:10 And I see 05:11 I see 05:13 Because 05:14 Because 05:16 I'm happy 05:17 I'm happy 05:19 And I see 05:21 I see 05:22 Because 05:23 Because 05:25 I found 05:28 The source of music 05:32 And I just can't help it 05:37 'Cause God gave the song 05:41 For since I found 05:46 The source of music 05:50 I just can't help it 05:55 'Cause God gave the song 06:03 God gave the song 06:16 Well, Ladye Love is one of my favorite singers. 06:19 She is, she and Reggie 06:21 are just so on fire for the Lord 06:23 and they're so sweet. 06:24 They talk to everybody everywhere they go, don't they? 06:27 Make you look easy. 06:29 They do indeed. 06:30 Well, if you're joining us just a little late, 06:33 our special guests today are Ron and Pat Goss. 06:36 And they are the Co-directors for Project Restore. 06:40 But before we get into what God is doing 06:44 through them right now, 06:45 we want to get to know y'all just a little bit better. 06:48 So I'm going to start, ladies first. 06:51 Yes. 06:52 And, Pat, did you grow up in a Christian home? 06:54 Yes. 06:56 Tell us a little bit about your upbringing? 06:59 My father was a Methodist, and my mother was a Catholic. 07:02 Okay. 07:03 And they transferred from church to church 07:06 as I was growing up 07:07 until they came across a set of meetings 07:10 that they wanted to go to. 07:12 And they learned so much from the Bible. 07:15 And we became Adventist Christians. 07:18 Amen. 07:19 And the Lord guided us and directed us 07:22 and just grew up as an Adventist Christian, 07:26 went to Academy and went to college. 07:29 Praise God. 07:30 I thought the Lord would come before then, 07:33 but praise the Lord where we are now. 07:35 And we can share and get literature out 07:38 and do all kinds of things. 07:40 I'm blessed to have the husband I have. 07:41 Amen. Amen. 07:43 So let me ask you a question 'cause this is interesting. 07:45 You know, sometimes people will grow up in the church 07:48 and go through the church schools, 07:51 but it doesn't become real in their heart. 07:56 You know, God has no grandchildren, 07:59 only children. 08:00 So when did it become a real connection for you? 08:04 How old were you? 08:06 Probably about 11 or 12 years. 08:08 Really. 08:09 So you are one of those 08:10 that just connected immediately in. 08:12 Oh, yes. 08:13 Praise God. 08:15 And I had parents that were very, very dedicated 08:17 to the Lord. 08:18 Amen. 08:20 I mean, I remember my mother getting stuck, the car stuck, 08:23 and she said, "Well, we need to pray about this." 08:25 Amen. 08:27 And we prayed. 08:28 And then the car just moved on out. 08:31 And wherever we went, 08:33 my mother always had literature to hand out to people. 08:36 She'd even open the window in the car 08:39 and handed the material out. 08:42 And it was just so exciting to see. 08:45 Wonderful. 08:47 I was very blessed. 08:48 You are very blessed. 08:49 So how about you, Ron? 08:51 Did you grow up in a Christian home? 08:52 My mother was a Methodist. 08:54 My father was a Catholic, just the opposite to Pat. 08:57 How interesting. 08:58 Yes. 09:00 And my mother studied and found the Sabbath truth, 09:04 and she joined the Adventist Christian Church. 09:08 And when I was just quite young, 09:11 just a baby, but I was a rebel. 09:13 I was a prodigal son. 09:16 I had it all. 09:17 I never doubted the Adventist message. 09:20 Matter of fact, I've said in a bar room 09:22 and between drinking a Budweiser 09:25 and smoking a Marlboro and telling the guy next to me, 09:27 "Now if you're going to keep the true Sabbath, 09:29 it's Saturday, brother." 09:30 Amen. 09:32 So I've never doubted the truth. 09:33 I've always believed the truth of Adventism. 09:35 But it wasn't until my mid 30s 09:37 as I'm driving around a patrol car, 09:40 and the Holy Spirit spoke to me very audibly, and said, 09:44 "Ron, you've been locking up people long enough now, 09:46 it's time to go set some free." 09:48 Ooh! Wow. 09:49 Wow. 09:50 So I knew at that point, and it's a long, long story, 09:52 but how the Lord loves you so much 09:55 and just leads and guides 09:56 and directs every step of the way 09:58 and I am so grateful to Him 10:00 that He is long suffering and merciful. 10:02 You know I love when people say that. 10:06 And sometimes when I first came to 3ABN, 10:08 I'd say, "Well, the Lord said this, 10:10 or the Lord said that." 10:12 And people were like, 10:14 "She thinks she's hearing from God." 10:15 But you know, 1 Kings 19:12 says, talks about 10:18 the still small voice of the Lord that Elijah heard. 10:23 And when you think about it, 10:26 God's audible voice is compared to like, 10:30 many rivers and floods. 10:33 And it's so magnificent that people shook 10:36 when they heard this audible voice. 10:38 But I believe that the Spirit of the Lord 10:41 when He impresses a thought upon our mind, 10:44 He whispers to us. Yes. 10:46 Absolutely. 10:47 One day I was walking down the main road, 10:49 and the voice said to me, "Walk up in the field." 10:52 Well, they had just plowed the field, 10:54 and it had rained and it was muddy. 10:57 And I thought, "What am I hearing? 10:59 This is crazy. 11:00 And then it came to me again. 11:02 And so I thought, "Well, I better go up." 11:05 And I did and then a car came along and flipped over 11:08 where I would have been. 11:10 Oh, glory to God. 11:11 So we have to listen to what God says. 11:13 Amen. 11:14 And glory to God that you did. 11:16 Yes. 11:17 Okay. 11:18 So, Ron, you were in police work, 11:21 actually, you were a Chief of Police. 11:23 And he told us a story in the greenroom 11:25 how he's driving around Las Vegas in his Corvette, 11:29 had a beer in one hand, 11:31 and Marlboro in the other, 11:32 that's why I called him the Marlboro Man. 11:35 But then you hear 11:38 the Holy Spirit speaking to you. 11:40 Tell us how God took you, how he got your heart, 11:46 were you really ready 11:48 to give up all the vanities of the world? 11:51 Well there's the number of steps. 11:53 You know, the Lord takes us as we can handle it, 11:57 as we can feel with it. 11:58 He leads us, He's gentle, He's kind, He's loving. 12:01 And some things happen where someone 12:04 when I was working on the Sabbath, 12:06 and someone broke in the home 12:09 and they stole some different thing, 12:11 money I had saved for Las Vegas 12:13 and stole my wife's jewelry 12:15 except for the watch she'd wear, 12:17 every once in a while wanted to please my mom, 12:20 I'd go to church. 12:21 And it just started coming together, 12:24 piecing together and I knew 12:25 that the Lord was working on my heart. 12:29 And I used to love to hunt and fish, 12:31 and if I wasn't fishing and hunting, 12:32 I was looking for a place to fish and hunt. 12:35 Should have been born back in Daniel Boone's. 12:36 Yeah. 12:38 But, anyway, just the Lord step by step 12:43 and I said to the fellow that was driving 12:45 that pickup truck on the way back 12:46 from a deer hunting trip. 12:48 I said, "Bill, I think I'm going to quit, 12:49 give up deer hunting." 12:51 He said, "What? 12:52 You're going to quit deer hunting? 12:53 Are you going to quit hunting?" 12:55 I said, "No, I didn't say I was going to quit hunting." 12:56 I said, "I think I'm going to give up deer hunting. 12:57 I think I'll hunt souls for the Lord." 12:59 Oh, boy. 13:00 And for the next half hour, there wasn't another word said 13:03 as we drove along because I could not believe 13:06 that that came out of my mouth. 13:08 And I knew then that the Lord was working. 13:11 Step by step He brought me back 13:13 until I went to church in my new Corvette 13:18 and come in at 11:30 just when the sermon starts, 13:20 just about and preacher gave an altar call. 13:24 And again, the Holy Spirit spoke to my heart 13:26 that day and said, "Ron, 13:28 even you've been serving the devil long enough. 13:31 Choose to serve Me today or you're a lost man." 13:33 Just as clear as that. 13:35 And I said, "Lord, I've wasted all these years." 13:38 Cause I was in my mid 30s at that time, 13:41 "But if You'll have me, I'll serve You." 13:42 And He said, "I'll have you." 13:44 And I went forward that day, 13:46 and life hasn't been the same since 13:48 and had us do a ministry called Project Restore, 13:52 where we're doing everything 13:53 we can by His grace to lead others 13:55 to the lovely Jesus that we serve. 13:57 Amen. 13:58 So tell us about Project Restore? 14:01 Project Restore, I was telling, as we were talking 14:05 at the green room a little earlier, 14:07 Pat and I were in town, 14:08 one of the town's after we moved to Virginia, 14:11 I had turned my badge in '86, and I said, 14:15 "Do you see that fellow in the corner, 14:17 standing on the corner there up the street?" 14:19 He said, "Yeah." 14:21 So well, I've locked him up several times. 14:23 So I used to, you know, 14:25 they used to call me the pistol packing preacher. 14:28 They can see you carry, you know, everywhere you go, 14:32 and then as I got closer to the Lord, 14:34 the Lord spoke to me and basically said, 14:37 "The angel Lord encamped around about them that fear him, 14:40 and he's well enough to take care of us. 14:44 You don't need it." 14:45 Amen. 14:46 So as I was contemplating this and doing that morning, 14:50 I jumped in the shower, had the radio play, 14:52 and a commercial or something came on, 14:54 I don't know if it came from the radio or not, 14:55 I'm not sure but this is what I heard, 14:58 "Put away your sword and pick up your pen." 15:02 I had no idea what that meant at that time. 15:05 But time after that 15:08 is when the Lord called us to do 15:10 Project Restore and Project Restore, 15:13 as a ministry before the great and terrible day 15:17 of the Lord, Elijah will return. 15:19 We know that's the Elijah message. 15:22 How long he hopped between two opinions, 15:23 if it be God then serve God, 15:25 if it be Baal then serve Baal, 15:26 but you can no longer sit on the fence, 15:28 because Satan owns the fence. 15:30 So what we're doing is, by God's grace, 15:33 we started into the printing ministry, 15:36 we don't have printing presses ourselves, 15:38 we have other ministry or other businesses do that. 15:42 And we connected with Dwight at Remnant Publication 15:45 to do different things. 15:46 But we've, Mom and Pop organization, 15:49 we've had the privilege of printing and distributing 15:55 over 75 million magazines, 15:57 32 page magazine four color. 16:00 But then we were impressed 16:02 to get out The Great Controversy, 16:05 the full text, Great Controversy 16:07 with the appendix, 16:08 because next to the Bible, 16:11 I believe it is the book of the hour. 16:12 Because she says of all my books, 16:15 even above The Desire of Ages and Steps to Christ, 16:18 she says above all my books, as wonderful as they are, 16:21 she says I want The Great Controversy 16:22 out more than any book I've ever written. 16:25 Because it depicts and shares not only the past, 16:30 but the present, and the future history 16:33 of what's about to take place. 16:35 And it's so well written that it's just a page turner, 16:38 you know, you just turn one page, 16:40 and you can't wait to get to the next page, 16:43 and fantastic. 16:46 For those of you at home, 16:47 if you're not familiar with The Great Controversy, 16:50 it was written by Ellen White, 16:52 and it is the history of the church. 16:55 It is the history of the Dark Ages. 16:57 And then it goes forward 16:59 at unfolding all of these things 17:02 that we see that prophecy, 17:06 many of the Bible prophecies have already been fulfilled, 17:10 but there are more coming. 17:11 And the interesting thing about The Great Controversy, 17:14 we know and you may know if you've watched 3ABN, 17:17 we've got some Pastor John Bradshaw, 17:21 Pastor David Asscherick 17:24 came into the church 17:28 by reading that book. 17:30 And Doug Batchelor, 17:32 that was a turning point for him 17:36 when he read The Great Controversy. 17:39 So it's a fascinating book, because anybody that's... 17:43 As you said, the way in which it's written, 17:46 it makes history come alive, 17:47 but you see Bible prophecy being fulfilled, 17:51 but then it's going forward. 17:53 So what, now when you said a mom and pop operation, 17:59 you are, Project Restore is a 501 (c) (3), 18:05 that means it's a nonprofit organization. 18:07 So this is a ministry. 18:09 And obviously, 18:12 if you've printed 75 million magazines, 18:16 and how many Great Controversies 18:18 have you printed? 18:19 Oh, we just ordered the paper 18:20 for the next five million books. 18:22 That's right. 18:23 And... How much paper does that take? 18:25 That's five million pounds. 18:27 Wow. 18:28 Okay. 18:29 And for those who are a little more practical minded that's... 18:34 12553 foot, 18:38 tractor trailer loads of paper. 18:39 Wow. 18:40 It's unbelievable. 18:42 That's the weight. That's right. 18:43 But if you put those tractor trailer, 18:44 you line them up on an interstate 18:46 and you just give a little safe distance in between, 18:48 that'd be two miles of tractor trailers pulling 18:51 that paper that's going to end up 18:53 being The Great Controversy, 18:54 the present truth, 18:56 which must get out to the world today. 18:58 Amen. 18:59 And I know the paper is... 19:01 For a mom and pop operation, that's not bad at all. 19:03 Is it? Praise God. 19:04 That'd be about 25 million books. 19:06 Yeah. 19:07 But the thing about it 19:09 is that you got your assignment... 19:12 Yes. 19:13 And you follow through. 19:15 You're still a mom and pop operation, 19:18 so you say and you... 19:22 It's there's no telling 19:23 how many souls have been touched. 19:26 Well, we know of a lot of people 19:28 because we get the testimonies 19:30 and we know many, many that have come in truth 19:33 and accepted in wanting to be Adventist Christians. 19:36 That's right. 19:38 And some, for instance, in South Carolina, 19:43 we went, had a speaking assignment down there 19:46 and we went to visit with an elderly lady, 19:48 we stayed with her and she had bulk mail 19:51 to the zip code around her church 19:53 and where she lived. 19:54 And so when Pat and I got there, she said, 19:56 "Oh, Ron, you know, it's been about 10 months 19:59 since the books gone out. 20:01 We're not hearing anything, 20:03 does it really make a difference?" 20:06 And I said, "Surely, the Word of God says 20:10 His Word will not come back void!" 20:12 Amen. 20:13 Period, exclamation point. 20:15 The Word of God says, "Cast the bread, 20:17 which is the Word of God on the waters," 20:19 Revelation 17:15, "The people, 20:22 cast the bread upon the waters, 20:23 and after many days it shall return!" 20:26 Period, exclamation point. 20:28 Amen. Amen. 20:29 So the Sabbath I'm speaking here 20:30 comes a man by the name of Fred. 20:33 Fred's coming out of one of the Babylonian churches 20:36 that he belonged to at a time realized 20:37 that there was some confusion. 20:39 Okay, explain. 20:40 Let's pause for just a second 20:41 because we've got people watching... 20:43 Okay. 20:44 Who are saying, 20:46 "What do you mean Babylonian churches? 20:47 Explain what the Bible talks about in Revelation, 20:52 that Babylon is a religious system 20:58 of confusion. 21:00 It is taking part of God's truth, 21:03 but it's adding man's tradition. 21:06 And what did Jesus say to the people? 21:08 He said, "Hey, you are taking the doctrines of men 21:14 and making void the Word of God by them." 21:17 So that's what we're talking about. 21:19 That's what we're talking about. 21:20 We know the Tower of Babel, 21:22 and they all were speaking all these different languages, 21:23 nothing but confusion. 21:24 There's a lot of confusion, even though God has a people, 21:28 as you mentioned earlier in all denominations. 21:31 In Revelation 18:4 21:33 which you read come out of her My people, 21:35 don't be confused any longer. 21:37 And we believe as Adventist Christians 21:41 that we need to be the Paul Harveys 21:44 of Christianity. 21:45 Amen. 21:46 We need to give them the rest of the story. 21:48 Many other people in all different churches 21:52 love and know Jesus better than many of us. 21:56 They know Him even better, 21:58 but they haven't heard the rest of the story. 22:00 Yeah. 22:01 And that's where the Elijah message comes in. 22:03 And the rest of the story is all from the Bible. 22:06 It's all from the Bible. 22:07 So they haven't focused on that. 22:09 So here you are preaching and Fred walks in. 22:11 And Fred comes in, and he said, 22:13 "I've been reading The Great Controversy, 22:16 and I realize that Saturday, 22:19 the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Bible." 22:21 How? 22:22 "And I'm going to join here with some Sabbath keepers." 22:25 And so he came in. 22:26 So then he decided he was going to put an ad in the newspaper, 22:30 and put a picture of The Great Controversy, 22:33 and said that, "Maybe you read this book like I did, 22:36 and I started keeping the seventh day Sabbath, 22:38 and maybe you would like to as well, 22:40 and so we're inviting you to come." 22:42 And he gave the address of the church for them to come. 22:44 So when he goes over to the newspaper office 22:47 to get the ad, the lady that's helping him 22:51 with the ad that works at the newspaper office, 22:53 she said, "Well, my husband and I got the book in the mail 22:56 as well, and we've read The Great Controversy." 22:59 And so Fred invited them to church. 23:02 So they all three showed up 23:04 at the Seventh-day Adventist Church, 23:07 and they were having communion that day, 23:09 and they all participated in communion, 23:12 even the foot washing. 23:14 Amen. 23:15 So yes, we have the stories, we get letters, 23:18 we understand from people that are coming into the truth, 23:21 dedicating their lives to work for God as well, fully. 23:26 Okay, so Project Restore began when? 23:29 It actually began in '95, 1995 when first started. 23:33 Yes. 23:34 And you've sent out over 17 million magazines, 23:37 and now millions of copies of The Great Controversy. 23:41 Tell us how do you distribute? 23:45 I mean, it's amazing to me when God says, "Okay, 23:50 Ron, I'm tapping you on the shoulder, 23:52 Pat, I'm tapping you on the shoulder." 23:55 For two people running a ministry, 23:59 it's amazing what God's doing. 24:01 So tell us how you distribute, 24:04 how do you get the funds to do all of this? 24:06 Well, first of all, it said in our titles, 24:09 were the Co-directors... 24:10 Yes. Because Jesus is the Director. 24:12 Amen. 24:13 And we're safe as long as He's the Director. 24:15 Amen. Amen. 24:16 But we follow the guidelines 24:18 that are given to us. 24:19 If you go to volume nine 24:21 of the Testimonies for the Church 24:22 and I remind people, 24:24 it's Testimonies for the church, 24:26 not against the church. 24:28 It tells us, we go door-to-door, 24:30 it tells us that wherever travel is, 24:33 wherever there's thoroughfares I've traveled, 24:36 Jesus was in the midst because people were coming 24:39 from all different parts of the world. 24:41 And that's what we try to do. 24:43 And also it says through the mail, 24:46 so these are bulk mail throughout the mail. 24:49 We've just recently completed. 24:54 We did the whole state of West Virginia. 24:56 That's approximately 730,000 homes. 25:00 Every home brother there, whether they're the judge, 25:03 or whether they're rich or whether they're poor, 25:05 they all received The Great Controversy, 25:08 full text Great Controversy 25:10 with appendix to show the history. 25:11 You want to hold it. 25:12 So now I think they'll show a graphic of it. 25:16 I mean, this is a copy of it, 25:17 but I think they'll show up the graphic... 25:18 It's a beautiful cover. 25:20 Revelation 13 on the front cover. 25:22 Explain the cover, 25:23 because people are looking and you got to watch. 25:25 This isn't just a reflection. 25:27 If I show this, 25:29 and when I give this to say a Catholic priest, 25:32 immediately they know what it is. 25:33 It's the Capitol building, it has a reflecting pool, 25:37 and it reflects the basilica at the Vatican. 25:41 Yes. 25:42 In other words, the first beast, 25:44 or the second beast of Revelation 13, 25:46 what does it do? 25:47 It makes an image... Makes image to the beast. 25:49 It makes an image to the beast. 25:52 And it's this book is been, 25:56 we've had three different covers, 25:57 we did one for the Reformation, 26:01 the 500th year anniversary of the Reformation. 26:03 So we had a special cover. 26:05 And then we did one, 26:06 the first one we did was with the world 26:08 with the chess pieces. 26:09 And King Jesus wins. 26:12 Amen. Amen. 26:13 And, but this is the one I said to David, 26:18 Dwight's brother-in-law, 26:19 we worked on the cover together. 26:21 And I said, David, "I want a cover 26:23 that I never have to change it until Jesus comes. 26:25 Amen. 26:26 And the Lord gave us this cover. 26:29 There's no doubt 26:30 and I guess the Lord will have to forgive us 26:33 because we spent $5 to get a Vatican flag, 26:35 so we can make it lay out just right the picture 26:37 put it on the book, so. 26:39 Well, that's beautiful. 26:40 But anyway, we do that. 26:41 The state of Alaska has also been bulk mailed. 26:46 That was done by private, 26:48 you know, folks just picking up 26:50 wanting to order in bulk mail 26:52 through the whole state of Alaska, 26:53 which is not that large. 26:55 But the Conference of Indiana has got a little excited 27:00 about what happened in West Virginia. 27:01 And so they've called Dwight at Remnant and said, 27:05 "Listen, we want to look 27:06 into putting The Great Controversy 27:08 into every home in the state of Indiana. 27:11 Praise God. 27:12 So we're looking at about, probably somewhere around 27:15 about two and a half million homes, 27:17 but we've already done Indianapolis, 27:20 you know, that was about 450,000 homes. 27:23 And you've done a lot up in Washington DC. 27:26 Tell us about that? 27:28 And New York. 27:29 Well, let's, if I can go back just a little bit. 27:33 Some of the cities that have been done 27:35 are like Chicago and San Francisco, 27:37 we put a million books in New York City. 27:39 People say, "Oh, they're just going to throw them away, 27:42 just throw them away." 27:43 I said, "Listen, if one person out of 100 27:45 reads this book, it makes a difference in their lives. 27:49 That's 10,000 precious souls for the kingdom." 27:51 Amen. 27:52 But we've done many other cities 27:54 like Philadelphia and there was a police detective 27:58 and raised Roman Catholic 28:00 all through his life came up to the schools. 28:03 He got to hold the book and he said, 28:06 and I've talked him on the phone several times. 28:08 And he said to me, "Ron," he said, 28:10 he said, "I got that book." 28:12 He said, "I didn't know this if from another denomination 28:14 are putting these out. 28:15 He said, but I was praying Lord, should I? 28:17 You know, should I read this book? 28:20 Or maybe I'll just read one chapter. 28:23 And you let me know 28:24 rather I should read the rest of it," He said. 28:25 Just randomly took the book, 28:27 and he opened it up and there's can our dead speak to us, 28:32 was the chapter he opened to. 28:34 Yeah. 28:35 He called me up and we've talked on the phone, 28:37 he said, "Then I realize 28:41 that everyone who's gone to sleep 28:45 are waiting for the resurrection. 28:46 Amen. 28:48 They're not ministering to us right now. 28:49 They're sleeping, waiting. 28:51 And he said, "I told every police officer 28:53 in the state of Philadelphia that I could contact, 28:55 you got to read this book. 28:58 You got to read this book." 29:00 And I just had to point out because its Bible based. 29:05 Yes. 29:06 There's so much scripture in it. 29:07 I remember I was writing a book with Danny and I co-wrote, 29:11 it was Antichrist Agenda, 29:13 and then it was Ten Commandments Twice Removed, 29:15 and my sister would call me and, Ron, it was so funny. 29:19 One day, she calls 29:21 and I couldn't get her to quit calling actually. 29:24 So when she called, 29:26 what I would do is read her the chapter 29:28 I had worked on that day, and I got to John 5:28-29, 29:34 where the Bible says, or Jesus says, 29:38 "All who are in their graves." 29:42 He said, "The day is coming 29:43 when all who are in their graves 29:45 will hear My voice. 29:46 Some will come forward 29:48 to the resurrection of righteous, 29:49 some to the resurrection of condemnation." 29:52 I'm reading that and I just go on past it. 29:54 My sister goes, "Wait a minute. 29:57 Break up. 29:58 Break that again. 29:59 What do you mean? 30:01 What did He mean?" 30:03 And I started to explain. 30:04 She was so upset. 30:07 She was screaming at me. 30:09 You mean mama's not in heaven, my grandma's not in heaven. 30:13 And you know what happened? 30:14 I told her, 30:16 "If you will just get out your Strong's Concordance, 30:19 look up everything about rest, 30:21 sleep, death, and resurrection," 30:23 I said, "You'll see it's true." 30:26 She hung up on me, screaming. 30:29 Six hours later, she called me back. 30:33 She'd been in the Strong's Concordance. 30:35 Amen. 30:36 She found the truth in it's like, she said, "Well, 30:39 why didn't so and so teach us, why doesn't so and so." 30:43 So it's amazing that this man, 30:47 reared to Catholic would open to that chapter, 30:51 and accept the truth that fast. 30:53 But it's all backed up by Scripture. 30:56 It's not just somebody's thoughts. 30:58 And we get calls and things of people 31:01 that have read the book and said it, 31:03 it transformed my life. 31:04 Amen. 31:06 What this will do, when people read this, 31:08 it will encourage and we've heard it 31:10 over and over again. 31:11 It will encourage people to go to the Bible 31:14 and then read the Bible. 31:16 Absolutely. That's right. 31:17 We were just in Walmart, Wally World, aka Walmart, 31:22 as they say, and we pray everywhere we go. 31:25 And, you know, where you got to have ammunition 31:28 wherever you go, right? 31:30 You've got to have the Word of God, 31:31 and then you pray and ask the Lord to lead you to people. 31:33 And so we went into there and I met a gentleman 31:37 and he had something on his T shirt, 31:40 something that looked like a flag a little bit. 31:42 And I said, "Is that a flag?" 31:43 I said, "You know, it's good." 31:44 See what that flag on or whatever, 31:46 just to get in a conversation. 31:48 And we started talking, man, he says, "I can't believe 31:50 what's happening in our world right now. 31:53 Everything's such a mess." 31:54 He said, "Matter of fact," he says, 31:56 "I opened my Bible last night, 31:58 I went to the Book of Revelation, 31:59 I'm trying to, you know, see what this is all about." 32:02 His name was Bernard and I said, 32:03 "Bernard, guess what?" 32:05 I said, "My wife and I just prayed in the parking lot 32:07 before you came in here that the Lord would lead us 32:09 to someone who's seeking 32:11 and wanting to know God's truth in His Word." 32:14 I said, "How's it feel 32:15 to be a part of the answer to prayer?" 32:17 He shook my hand and thanked, 32:18 I gave him The Great Controversy. 32:20 "I will read it," 32:21 he told me two or three times, he will read it. 32:23 We know that God will give us 32:25 the providential meetings with people. 32:27 We have not because we ask not. 32:30 Amen. 32:31 We ask, He will provide. 32:33 If we seek, we shall find, if we knock, He will open. 32:37 But this is what we're doing all. 32:40 Back to your question, 32:41 what we're doing is through the mail, 32:44 door-to-door. 32:45 Our plans are right now and I've got to get 32:48 with the Georgia Cumberland Conference, 32:50 but what we're hoping to do, 32:52 is like I'm an ex law man, 32:54 so what we do is we have what we call SWAT teams, 32:56 Swift Witness Action Teams. 32:59 And what we want to do 33:00 is we want to go into the city of Atlanta, 33:04 instead of bulk mailing it, 33:06 we want to have SWAT team members 33:09 going door-to-door, door-to-door, 33:12 we're told in page 612, "I saw the servants of God, 33:17 with their faces lighted up, with holy zeal, 33:21 going from place to place with a third angel's message, 33:26 and the power of God is being poured out." 33:28 And then she goes on to say, 33:30 "The publication's has done its work. 33:34 Long story. 33:35 Now the people come in from everywhere." 33:38 Amen. 33:40 So we know the printed page, just, 33:43 if you just think about Martin Luther in 1517, 33:47 and he took a piece of literature, 33:49 he put some things on paper hang, 33:51 hung it to the church door at Wittenberg. 33:53 In a week it went through all through Germany. 33:55 Within several weeks, 33:57 it went all through Christendom. 33:59 He didn't Facebook, he didn't Twitter, 34:01 he didn't tweet, it wasn't on Fox or CNN. 34:03 That's right. 34:05 And it went all to the Christian world. 34:07 And I believe that through this book, 34:11 through this message, there's given, 34:13 the past the present and the future. 34:15 I really believe that sooner or later, 34:20 it's going to strike a nerve. 34:22 And this thing is going to go like fire in a stubble 34:24 because it's going to make the news. 34:26 It's going to make the news. 34:28 We're told that they're going to try to condemn God's Word 34:31 here at the end. 34:33 And when it does, 34:34 we need to have as much literature out there 34:37 as we possibly can beforehand. 34:39 You remember, not long ago 34:41 when they were canceling some of the different books. 34:44 People are getting cancelled out like Dr. Seuss. 34:47 What happened after they canceled Dr. Seuss books? 34:51 Within a couple of months, 34:52 they sold more books than they'd ever sold before. 34:55 Because, when people were told they couldn't have it... 34:57 They wanted it. They wanted it. 34:58 That's right. 35:00 This is the way it's going to be, 35:01 I believe, with The Great Controversy. 35:03 Meaningful, absolutely amazes me is that 35:05 when did she write this book? 35:08 In the 1880s. 35:09 1880s? 35:11 And is this apropos or more so 35:13 probably times a thousand today than it was back then? 35:16 Oh, yes. 35:17 I mean, it's just a... It's a must read. 35:20 Well, I think, you know, I remember talking 35:22 with David Asscherick was studying to be a doctor. 35:25 He's, David Asscherick's one of the... 35:27 He's an Adventist Christian evangelist and teacher, 35:31 but he was studying to be a doctor. 35:34 So he was a smart boy, we'll put it that way. 35:38 And he gets a copy of this book. 35:40 And he said, here he is reading the history 35:44 of the Dark Ages and everything. 35:45 And he would go and verify the history. 35:50 And the beauty of this is its history 35:53 written with the Scriptures that support 35:56 where all of this was prophesied 35:58 that it would happen. 36:00 And so all of a sudden, 36:02 he said the history was accurate, 36:04 but the Bible just melded so perfectly with this, 36:08 that he realized that prophecy was true. 36:13 So then, as you walk through these things, 36:16 then you realize the rest, 36:18 and we're seeing prophecy fulfilled, 36:21 I mean, left and right daily. 36:24 But you see that it is going to happen, 36:29 as the Bible says it happens, 36:30 and that's the beauty of the book. 36:32 That's right. 36:33 Well, there're chapters in there. 36:34 Religious liberty is restricted. 36:37 The impending conflict, 36:39 when it deals with the law and order 36:42 just being falling apart, 36:44 where it talks about the calamities, 36:46 you know, the storms, the floods, the fires. 36:49 It talks about the political corruption. 36:51 It talks about all these different things, 36:53 they're going to be transpiring 36:55 just before the return of our Lord. 36:57 And He said, "When you see this, 36:58 and this, and this, and this, 37:00 because I'm even at the door. 37:02 Look up for your redemption draweth nigh." 37:04 Hallelujah. 37:06 We're excited, folks, Jesus is coming soon. 37:08 Amen. Amen. 37:09 And we need to warn the world. 37:10 But now, let's talk about, you mentioned that, 37:13 I mean, because what amazes me about God 37:17 is that He's called the two of you 37:20 together to work on this ministry. 37:22 Amen. 37:24 But as Ron said, 37:25 when God calls you to something, 37:27 He's going to see through it. 37:28 So He does have people waiting in the wings. 37:31 I mean, to me, it was a huge leap of faith 37:34 to call Dwight Hall at Remnant Publications 37:36 and say, "Hey, give me five million pounds paper," 37:40 however many pounds of paper. 37:42 But I asked you in the green room, 37:46 "How do you get your funding?" 37:47 And you said, "A lot of your funding 37:50 is coming in from non-Adventists." 37:53 Tell us about the $100,000 37:55 check you got in the mail? 37:56 Well, after we made the decision, 37:59 because we stepped out in faith, 38:00 of course, you know, we're told we think too small 38:04 when it comes to God's work. 38:07 We restrict God's work 38:08 because we're looking at circum... 38:09 We put Him in a box. 38:11 We're looking at circumstances. 38:12 We got to quit looking at the circumstances, 38:13 we got to look at what He's promised, 38:16 and His promises aren't limited. 38:18 There's no limit to the promises of God. 38:20 But after we made the decision 38:23 to step out and just say, "Okay, 38:25 Dwight, see what you can find out 38:27 to get five million pounds of paper, 38:29 want five million more books." 38:30 Sooner or later, 38:32 we're not going to be able to get the paper, 38:33 we might not be able to get printed. 38:36 And as soon as that happened, I received, 38:39 we received $100,000 check from 34 year old young man. 38:44 Amen. Okay. 38:45 Wow. 38:46 I didn't know it was coming, but God did. 38:48 Amen. 38:49 And then another man called me... 38:50 And he wasn't a Seventh-day Adventist... 38:52 He was, he's an Adventist. 38:53 He, but he just what turned him around... 38:55 Was the book. 38:56 Was The Great Controversy. 38:58 He read The Great Controversy book, 39:01 and it turned him around. 39:03 And he was excited about what he was learning from that. 39:06 And now he's on fire for the Lord, 39:09 wants to do whatever we can to help him. 39:11 Another man called and said, 39:15 "My uncle died and a bunch of first cousins 39:20 are getting inheritance." 39:22 And he says, "I want every penny of that 39:24 to go into The Great Controversy... 39:25 Praise God. 39:26 Which will probably be about maybe 3 to $400,000. 39:29 Of course, that's not a drop in a bucket, 39:32 but when you're dealing 39:33 with that many billions of dollars, 39:36 but it's a great help, that's for sure. 39:38 Amen. 39:39 But I would say three of the top donors 39:44 that we've ever had are from non-Adventist. 39:47 Praise God. 39:48 All right, so if somebody were to go to you, 39:52 well, first of all, I want to ask you 39:53 where you got your title, 39:55 but you can go to ProjectRestore.com 39:58 That's their website, 40:00 ProjectRestore.com 40:02 And does it lists all of the various things 40:06 'cause you've done... 40:07 Well, I must confess, I'm not a computer person. 40:10 Okay. 40:11 I have a hard time just turning one on, okay? 40:14 I'm in the mid-70s so... 40:15 It's age related. 40:17 Right. 40:18 Now you can give a three year old, 40:21 you know, iPad and they can wiz through it. 40:24 But so it hasn't really been updated 40:27 as much as I'd love to see it updated. 40:29 So a lot of it is not on, you know, on there right now. 40:31 But we need to definitely get it updated. 40:33 But just main thing we need is we need prayer. 40:37 Amen. 40:39 A lot of prayer, a lot of power. 40:40 A little prayer, a little power. 40:42 No prayer, no power. 40:43 We need prayer. 40:45 God, He owns the cattle on a thousand hills, 40:49 and He owns the gold underneath them there hills too. 40:51 Correct? 40:53 Yeah. Right. 40:54 And so He will impress people, and we encourage, 40:56 we lean to let people know what we're doing, 40:59 the reasons why we're doing it, and seeking the help. 41:02 And a lot of folks today do not, 41:06 they don't see the importance of the printed page, 41:10 as much as they used to many, many, especially 41:13 a lot of the younger folks coming along. 41:15 And by the way, people tell us all the time, 41:18 "Nobody reads books. 41:20 They get the electronic stuff." 41:22 You know... 41:24 So, go ahead. Go ahead. 41:25 I just going to say, I just have to tell you this, 41:28 Scott Ritsema just did a program here on 3ABN, 41:31 and he brought all of this data 41:33 to support his commentary. 41:37 But all of the research shows, if you are reading online, 41:43 if you're reading on your phone or on an iPad or your computer, 41:48 you retain 50% less 41:52 than when you're reading a hardback book. 41:55 Agree with it. 41:56 Yes. 41:58 And so, you know, it's interesting 42:00 that the people that we're seeing now, 42:03 the younger generation, 42:05 they're actually, and forgive me 42:07 for saying this, but it's true, 42:09 and it's affecting the more we all get on media, 42:13 it gives you the attention span of a hummingbird, 42:16 you know, you kind of dip a little here. 42:19 I mean, when I read the news now, 42:21 you know, you used to sit with the newspaper, 42:24 you just zip through it in depth. 42:27 But... 42:28 The thing of it is, he said, 42:31 I took it out of USA Today sometime back, 42:33 but Hewlett Packard, which is a computer company, 42:36 did a survey of 2000 Facebook users, 42:39 which are computer users. 42:41 In the survey what they found out 42:43 was 83% of the people 42:46 preferred a book in hand. 42:51 I mean, how does Barnes and Noble, 42:53 how do they keep these big bookstores open in airports 42:55 if people don't read books any longer? 42:57 They do read the books. 42:59 Amen. 43:00 And we're finding that to be the case, 43:01 and we've got to get them out there 43:03 like the leaves of the autumn. 43:05 And she says I want this book. 43:08 She equates it to more valuable than gold and silver. 43:11 And of all my books, I want this book out, she says. 43:15 And we're told that many, many are going to come 43:19 into God's message for this time, 43:22 as a result of that book, 43:24 more than we can possibly understand now 43:27 of what we see today. 43:28 We certainly know it. 43:30 Pat, how has the focus on this project 43:35 as you all have been working together 43:38 under the Lord's direction? 43:40 He is your director, you are the co-directors, 43:44 how has it changed your heart or your walk with the Lord 43:48 when you see these miracles happening 43:51 of people turning to the Lord 43:52 because of the book or funds coming in? 43:55 It's been so wonderful, 43:56 we draw closer and closer to the Lord. 43:59 It's just amazing, all the different people 44:02 that we've shared with when we go to the stores 44:05 and things like that. 44:07 Sometimes I'll see someone and I think, 44:08 "Oh, I need to give a book to them." 44:10 And then they've gone one direction, 44:12 I go another direction, 44:14 but the Lord brings us together, 44:15 and I share it with them. 44:17 And they're so excited. 44:18 And it just, it's better 44:22 than if someone would give me a million dollars. 44:24 I'd rather share a book 44:26 and make a difference in someone's life for eternity. 44:29 Amen. 44:30 Amen. 44:32 And you think about this man that's getting an inheritance. 44:35 I mean, there's not too many people 44:37 inheritance and just say, 44:40 "Hey, I want to put it all on this project. 44:43 But it is that important. 44:45 Yes, ma'am. 44:47 I had a great aunt that died. 44:51 And, well, her husband had died too. 44:54 And her daughter had died. 44:57 And so the money was given to cousins, 45:00 and I was one of the cousin. 45:02 And it was about 100,000, wasn't it overall? 45:05 Well, it started out with 25,000. 45:07 Yeah, and then more came. 45:09 And I thought, "Boy, 45:13 we need to put this in The Great Controversy fund." 45:15 But it's her money, it was given to her, 45:17 and she comes to me and says, 45:19 "I think we ought to put this money in Great Controversy." 45:21 Great Controversy. Yeah. 45:23 Then, hits upon another check... 45:26 Yeah. 45:27 75,000 from the same thing, and by God's grace, 45:31 we put that, because you can't outgive God, folks. 45:33 No, you can't. 45:35 Who's trying? 45:36 You cannot outgive God. 45:37 And God's taking care of us and watch over us... 45:39 Every step of the way. 45:41 Every step of the way. 45:42 But anyway, it ended up... 45:43 Everything's going to burn someday. 45:45 Yeah. 45:46 Ended up, she gave that to The Great Controversy fund, 45:48 and then it was a larger check than that. 45:50 Most of that went into The Great Controversy fund, 45:52 and we took some of it to pay off 45:54 some debt to be debt free. 45:57 But give and it should be given on to you. 46:00 Amen. 46:02 Press down, overflowing. 46:03 What other books do you also get our other materials? 46:08 We know that is The Great Controversy. 46:10 I mean... 46:12 Well, we did the hardback, 46:13 I don't know if they can show that on the screen 46:14 if you hold those up. 46:16 Go ahead, Shelley. 46:17 One's red, one there's the blue, 46:19 when they've got on the screen. 46:20 These are gorgeous. 46:21 Fantastic blue for boy? 46:23 Yeah. Yeah. 46:24 Right up on the screen. 46:25 And red for heart. 46:27 There we go right there. 46:28 And the thing, the thing of it is, 46:30 is that we've learned because we go into Washington, 46:34 before the pandemic started, 46:36 we go into Washington DC, at least a couple times a year. 46:40 Our purpose is to get 46:42 the illustrated Great Controversy 46:43 into the hands of people in the House and the Senate. 46:46 And, boy, God's given you some real success... 46:49 Well, we could share names of people 46:52 that you read about and see on the news every single day. 46:55 That's right. 46:56 But as we said before, you don't want to give, 47:01 you can't give a scooter to a Harley Davidson driver. 47:04 You got to have something quality. 47:06 So we did another hardback with quality, 47:10 because they need to put those on the shelves and keep them, 47:14 and we got a letter back from a former president 47:18 who sent us a letter back thanking us for the book. 47:20 Amen. 47:21 We got a letter from people like Lieutenant Governor, 47:24 former Lieutenant Governor of Virginia, says, 47:27 "Ron, I'm learning so much about church history. 47:30 I'm sharing it with my family 47:32 and holds a very special place in my library." 47:35 And we've had other Congressmen and people write us, 47:37 "Project Restore, if there's anything we can do 47:40 to help you in any way be sure." 47:42 Oh... Go ahead. I do need it. 47:46 We've only got four minutes. 47:47 And I got to ask you this question. 47:49 Okay. 47:50 If somebody is watching in there in Phoenix, 47:53 or they're in Albuquerque, or they're in Denver, 47:55 and they're saying, "You know what? 47:58 I've read this book, you're right, 48:00 it is something that needs to get out." 48:01 Because we do believe time is short. 48:04 Amen. 48:05 A loud cry hasn't quite come, we're going to see 48:08 the outpouring of the latter rain, 48:11 and then the loud cry. 48:13 But if somebody from another city is saying 48:15 that, what did they do? 48:17 Do they just contact you? 48:18 And we're going to put some contact information, 48:21 but can they just, they contact you 48:23 or Remnant Publications? 48:25 Who do they contact? 48:27 And or, and or both. 48:28 Okay. They can contact us. 48:30 Okay. 48:31 Again, we're mom and pop, 48:32 so we don't have a lot of staff to be. 48:34 But again, we've been working closely. 48:37 Dwight is a dear friend and his wife, 48:39 Deb for many years. 48:41 And, so the... He's an on fire guy for God. 48:44 He is. Yes. 48:45 Yeah. Praise the Lord. 48:47 If he wasn't, might have put some knots on him, 48:51 but we are closer together. 48:54 But if they wanted to bulk mail, 48:56 and if they want to help us to bulk mail, 48:58 say Indiana or any other bulk mailers, 49:00 or maybe they just want to do them, 49:01 the church with their church funds, 49:03 the outreach funds, 49:04 they might want to bulk mail around their zip codes, 49:06 around their towns. 49:07 That's right. 49:09 They can do that by calling us or calling Remnant Publications 49:13 and they can give us a zip code. 49:16 We can look them up and tell them exactly 49:18 how many residential addresses 49:20 there are in that particular zip code. 49:22 And... 49:24 So if they sponsored a bulk mail, 49:25 do they have to buy the books 49:27 or do they or do they just pay the postage for? 49:31 With the postage, it's over dollar per home, 49:37 but that include... 49:38 Wow, you can get this book out for a dollar? 49:42 Well, it's a dollar, about a dollar 40 right now, 49:44 I think it is because postage keeps going up. 49:46 I mean, it cost you 50 cents, 49:48 just 57 cents maybe or something like around. 49:51 But you can send the book, the paperback book out, 49:55 the postage, the handling, the mailing service, 49:57 everything, for around a dollar 40 cents per home. 50:01 And I'm going to tell you with inflation right now, 50:03 a dollar 40 is not much. 50:04 Yeah. 50:06 Right now that's all is. Yeah. 50:07 But it's going to get worse. 50:09 It's going to get worse. 50:10 Today is the day of salvation. 50:11 You need to get the message out. 50:13 Amen. 50:14 Things are happening so quickly. 50:17 We know that prophecy is being fulfilled, 50:20 it will continue to be fulfilled. 50:23 And we're going to take a short break here, 50:25 but I want, we're going to come back 50:27 for a final thought. 50:30 If I just want to before we put your address roll, 50:33 they can either contact you 50:35 or they can contact Remnant Publications 50:38 if they want to be part of this. 50:40 And you know, I've just believed 50:42 that the Holy Spirit is working on hearts. 50:45 And people are saying, maybe you've read this book, 50:48 and you know how powerful this book is. 50:52 And I think that what Ron and Pat, 50:55 what God has done with you 50:57 is He's given you that gift of faith 50:59 where you're stepping out on faith 51:01 to get the materials to make it all ready. 51:04 So all you have to do is you can contact them 51:09 or you can contact Remnant. 51:11 But this is a book that needs to get out 51:14 so that people can see 51:16 how history the Bible contains the history. 51:21 History just confirms prophecies what I'll say. 51:24 Amen. 51:26 But we see other prophecies that are unfolding now, 51:29 and we know history will confirm that as well. 51:31 But here's how you can get in touch 51:34 with Project Restore. 51:38 If you would like to contact 51:40 or know more about Project Restore, 51:41 you can write to them at PO Box 2000, 51:46 Locust Dale, Virginia 22948, 51:50 or you can call them 51:51 at (540) 661-9263. 51:57 That's (540) 661-9263. 52:02 You can also visit their website 52:03 at ProjectRestore.com 52:06 That's ProjectRestore.com 52:10 or you can send them an email 52:11 at staff@ProjectRestore.com |
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