3ABN Today

From Rodeo Cowboy to Minister

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00:01 As you're well aware,
00:03 we're living in unprecedented times.
00:05 Join us now for Today special program.
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Mending broken people
00:23 I want to spend my life
00:29 Removing pain
00:34 Lord, let my words
00:39 Heal a heart that hurts
00:44 I want to spend my life
00:50 Mending broken people
00:55 I want to spend my life
01:01 Mending broken people
01:15 Hello, and welcome to another 3ABN Today program.
01:18 We're so glad that you've joined us.
01:19 You know, we look forward to spending this one hour
01:21 with you each and every day.
01:22 And thank you for allowing us into your living room.
01:25 Or maybe you're driving your car
01:26 and you have 3ABN radio in your car
01:29 or watching on your 3ABN phone app,
01:32 I don't know how, but thank you so very much
01:35 for joining us today.
01:38 Thank you so very much for being a part of our family
01:40 that mean so very much to us.
01:42 And thank you so much
01:43 for your prayers and financial support
01:45 for the ministry of 3ABN.
01:47 I'm so excited about today's program,
01:49 because it's a testimony
01:51 of a life changed largely in part two, 3ABN.
01:56 And this is just an encouragement to you.
01:58 I know so many of you give sacrificially
02:01 to support the ministry of 3ABN.
02:02 Thank you so very much.
02:04 And why do you do that?
02:05 Well, it's because you're interested in souls,
02:07 souls for the Kingdom of God.
02:10 And I'm joined here on the set today
02:12 with Mr. Jack Stout.
02:13 Thank you so very much for being here today
02:15 and for sharing your testimony.
02:17 Thank you, Greg. Amen.
02:18 Now this is not your first time to 3ABN?
02:20 No, I was here
02:23 around 1995 or so, '96.
02:27 And that was at the original building,
02:28 the Uplink building, as we call it,
02:30 but God has continued to do amazing things in your life.
02:33 So if you've seen a program with Mr. Jack Stout
02:36 on where you get to see an update to what God is doing,
02:38 but also today, we're going to be sharing
02:40 his complete testimony with you.
02:41 It's so inspiring.
02:43 You know, I think about the ripple effect.
02:46 As a kid, we had a farm pond, it always seemed to be muddy.
02:50 But we would take stones
02:51 and we would throw it out in the pond.
02:53 And if you look closely, right,
02:55 when that stone goes into the water,
02:57 a little ripple forms,
02:58 and it slowly gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
03:01 So I'm thinking about you, you know who you are.
03:04 Last year, somebody gave 99 cents
03:06 to the ministry of 3ABN
03:08 to support this ministry
03:09 and to bring souls into the Kingdom of God.
03:11 Well, that's a ripple
03:12 and that ripple gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
03:15 Well, people such as Mr. Jack Stout,
03:17 they're affected by that donation.
03:19 They're like, "Wow, I found truth on 3ABN."
03:23 So Mr. Jack, he has started a ministry now.
03:25 And so now that ripple has multiplied, right?
03:28 It just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
03:31 I can just see Jesus shining out of you.
03:33 Why do you love the Lord, Mr. Jack?
03:35 Because that He took a wretch like me,
03:39 and made me to love people and love Him,
03:44 love the things of the kingdom.
03:46 Amen.
03:47 And I love the title of your ministry too,
03:49 Turn to Jesus Ministries,
03:51 which we're going to be talking about a little bit later on,
03:55 but to share Jesus
03:56 and to then have an impact in other's lives
03:58 that does something special, doesn't it to you?
03:59 Amen. It does.
04:01 Yeah, absolutely.
04:02 So before we jump into his testimony,
04:04 we want to go to some music right now
04:06 by Sister E.T. Everett.
04:08 She's going to be bringing to us
04:09 a beautiful song today entitled
04:11 Bind Us Together and the Family of God.
04:14 Amen.
08:40 Amen.
08:41 Thank you so very much Sister E.T.
08:43 God's given you so many gifts and talents.
08:45 And one of those is, of course, music
08:48 and I love the melody there,
08:51 especially the family of God.
08:53 Now just think about
08:54 being a part of the family of God.
08:55 Amen. Isn't that awesome?
08:57 That's incredible.
08:58 I look so much forward to heaven
09:00 and be able to spend eternity together.
09:01 That'll be an incredible day.
09:03 But while we're here on this earth,
09:04 we must be faithful to the mission
09:06 that God has given to each one of us,
09:07 and that's to share the good news
09:09 of salvation to a lost and dying world.
09:11 In case you're just joining us here,
09:14 joining me on the set is Mr. Jack Stout,
09:16 an incredible testimony
09:18 and 3ABN has had an important part
09:21 to play in your conversion,
09:23 your salvation and your walk with God.
09:26 I didn't introduce you in the very beginning,
09:29 because you're actually a...
09:30 I need to do this.
09:31 You're a businessman, you're a minister for the Lord,
09:34 you're an evangelist,
09:35 what else would we say that you are?
09:36 A family man. A family man?
09:38 Yeah, praise the Lord.
09:40 But God's done marvelous things in your life.
09:42 So, let's go back and go to your testimony.
09:44 You want to go back to when you were a child?
09:46 Sure. Yeah, sure let's do.
09:47 To kind of get the basis of it.
09:49 I was actually born in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
09:50 No, I'm not going to tell you how long ago.
09:52 Okay.
09:53 It's pretty obvious by my, color of my beard.
09:55 But you look younger and younger.
09:56 You kind of look the same every time I see you.
09:58 Anyway, I was born to some roving parents.
10:03 We used to move all over the place.
10:05 We lived a little bit in Arkansas,
10:07 quite a few places in Oklahoma.
10:10 And when we got up to school age that was,
10:12 became pretty tough
10:14 because you just learned to meet folks,
10:17 other kids and then it's time to move again.
10:20 What did your folks do? What was their business?
10:22 Why did they move so much?
10:23 Most of the time dad drove a truck.
10:25 Okay.
10:27 And he was gone a lot
10:28 and my childhood wasn't really
10:31 that good
10:34 because my dad, my mom,
10:37 there was three boys and three girls.
10:39 My mom used to say that she had to raise seven kids,
10:43 including my dad.
10:44 Okay.
10:46 And anyway, he was tough on us
10:48 and, but we moved around a lot.
10:52 And eventually he got a job as a ranch foreman
10:56 on a 6000 acre ranch in north of Tulsa.
11:02 And I really liked that
11:03 because you could saddle a horse
11:04 and just go in about every direction.
11:06 And I love driving cows,
11:08 I love breaking horses and things like that.
11:12 But that eventually kind of evolved into rodeos.
11:16 Me and my brothers,
11:18 we used to ride broncs and bulls
11:20 every weekend at the rodeos
11:22 and some rodeos,
11:23 my mom was the rodeos' secretary.
11:25 So we were for sure to get on the books
11:28 but as we were going to these rodeos,
11:31 we started kind of learning the new vices of,
11:35 you know, the after rodeo parties
11:36 and drinking
11:38 and eventually started smoking and then the worst one was,
11:44 you know chewing tobacco and such but...
11:46 So how old were you?
11:48 I think we have some pictures right now too
11:49 that for you at the rodeo.
11:51 So you're how old when you started doing that?
11:53 Probably mid-teens
11:54 right through these pictures here.
11:57 Well, that's rough.
11:58 It's funny.
12:00 I was never hurt riding a bull. Wow.
12:02 But there was a few times that,
12:03 you know, I'd break a bone
12:04 or something on the bronc riding.
12:06 But anyway, like I said,
12:10 we kind of evolved into the vices of the world
12:14 and well then, finally,
12:19 when I graduated from high school,
12:21 matter of fact I started my first business then.
12:24 I was only 17 years old, didn't attend college anywhere
12:28 but started selling meat products
12:31 to restaurants in Tulsa.
12:34 And I would do that every day.
12:36 And eventually, the refrigerated trucks
12:40 that I started out with,
12:41 you know, like a picket size
12:43 evolved into a little bigger truck
12:46 until I was in the full-fledged trucking business.
12:51 Wow.
12:52 And here's the first new truck.
12:56 This is not the first truck I owned,
12:57 but this is the first new truck.
13:00 Matter of fact, I bought this truck brand new,
13:04 two weeks later bought the trailer.
13:06 And I was running so hard at that time
13:08 that I was going through Pine Bluff, Arkansas one night.
13:13 And as I was leaving town, I fell asleep...
13:17 At the wheel?
13:18 At the wheel and eased off the road
13:20 and turn that thing over.
13:21 You're talking in a semi-truck?
13:23 In a semi-truck, didn't have a seat belt on.
13:25 And I remember as it started to roll,
13:27 I just grabbed the steering wheel
13:29 and rode it out.
13:31 And when it ended up
13:32 I'm still holding on to the steering wheel
13:34 sitting outside the windshield.
13:36 And only thing that happened
13:38 I got a little scratch on my shoulder
13:40 from hitting my CB radio going out.
13:42 But that was...
13:43 So you went through the windshield?
13:44 Went through the windshield.
13:46 Hanging on to your steering wheel?
13:47 Hanging on to the steering wheel.
13:48 Oh, my.
13:50 And while I was ready,
13:51 you know, getting that truck rebuilt,
13:54 I started buying more trucks and eventually I stayed,
13:59 by this time I'd probably been in the trucking business
14:01 seven or eight years or so like that.
14:03 So are you in your 20s then...
14:05 I was in my 20s, yeah. Late 20s, okay.
14:07 So then how was everything?
14:08 'Cause you're talking like in high school
14:10 you kind of started like you said,
14:12 chewing tobacco, some alcohol, some party.
14:14 So is that just accelerating or?
14:16 That's very much accelerating. Okay.
14:18 And anyway, the trucking business,
14:22 you know, I do know of a few Christians
14:26 that are in the trucking business.
14:28 It's a tough business to be a Christian
14:30 and especially a Sabbath keeping Christian.
14:33 But anyway, the truck started multiplying.
14:37 I eventually got up to six trucks and 12 drivers.
14:40 I had teams on them
14:42 and they were running coast to coast.
14:43 Did that for about three or four years.
14:46 And one day I was in my office and I thought I have no life.
14:50 I mean, I was workaholic seven days a week
14:54 and marriage was struggling.
14:58 By this time I had two boys and two girls,
15:00 they were very young.
15:02 And anyway, I decided to shut that business down.
15:08 And I remember sitting in this little office
15:10 that I had probably about the size of this desk here.
15:13 And this wall of stress just crumbled down.
15:17 And I thought, ooh, that felt good.
15:19 Well, anyway, my dad was in the satellite business
15:23 at that time.
15:24 And he had a retail business and a wholesale.
15:26 He asked me, said, "What are you going to do now?"
15:28 I said, "I don't know.
15:30 I haven't really thought about it yet.
15:31 I just, you know, just knew
15:34 I had to get out of this business."
15:35 So you sold your trucking company basically?
15:37 No, actually, I just closed it down.
15:39 You just closed it down.
15:42 I probably could have sold it, it was profitable,
15:45 but I just, you know, I was young
15:48 and just thought my easiest way
15:49 of getting out is just close it down,
15:51 and sell of the equipment.
15:53 Can I put a pause right here then.
15:54 So tell me about your Christianity.
15:56 What's happening then during these years?
15:57 Like your teens, your 20s, what's God in your life
15:58 and church life?
16:00 We never went to church, didn't.
16:03 If I probably associated with anything,
16:06 it would probably be Baptist,
16:07 even though I never really went to a Baptist Church.
16:11 My grandmother was probably
16:12 the most spiritual person in my life
16:16 all through my childhood.
16:17 And...
16:19 So praying, were you into prayer?
16:20 No, no, no.
16:23 At that time, it was just heathen,
16:27 I used to tell people,
16:29 you know, they asked me what were you before you
16:31 become an Adventist,
16:32 and I said heathenism probably I'd describe it.
16:35 But...
16:36 So then when you are in this accident,
16:38 'cause I'm just backing up a little bit,
16:39 'cause there's someone right now
16:40 who is listening or watching is like,
16:42 "Hey, that's me.
16:43 I'm right where Jack was."
16:44 So you had this accident.
16:46 You flew through the windshield,
16:47 still hanging on to the tractor trailer steering wheel,
16:49 what did you think?
16:50 You were just lucky?
16:51 Yes. Okay.
16:53 You didn't think, "Wow,
16:54 somebody is watching out for me?
16:55 No, really, I didn't.
16:57 Like I said, my mind was far from God.
16:58 And you know what's amazing, for seven or eight years,
17:02 I carried a Bible in my truck.
17:04 Did you really never read it?
17:06 I can never ever remember opening it up and reading it.
17:10 I mean, you know, it was kind of like
17:11 having a good luck charm,
17:13 you know, setting it in there with me.
17:15 And it was I guess...
17:17 The Lord was watching out for you.
17:19 And the funny thing about it,
17:20 when I fell asleep at that time,
17:22 I would probably estimate,
17:24 I'd fallen asleep 1500 times driving a truck.
17:28 I was, like I said I was a workaholic.
17:30 And I ever knew when to quit, you know.
17:33 And that was including,
17:35 however many hours that I spent driving.
17:38 But anyway, when I decided to shut the business down,
17:42 dad asked me if I wanted to work with him.
17:44 And I said, "Sure."
17:46 And first of all,
17:47 I was, worked in his retail section of.
17:52 You know, it was back when the big 10 foot dishes,
17:54 you remember?
17:56 Oh, yeah, huge dishes. Exactly.
17:57 And not only was I selling them,
18:00 but every once in a while I'd go out
18:02 while they were installing one,
18:04 if it's one of my customers,
18:05 and I'd help them program it in.
18:08 And I remember there used to be like
18:10 15 or 20 satellites up there
18:12 that we'd have to program it in.
18:14 Well, eventually this customer came in
18:18 and they were trying to witness to me,
18:21 and they were talking about
18:26 a red calf going on in Israel.
18:27 And but they were basically they were saying,
18:30 "Jesus is coming."
18:32 And I, like I said, even though I wasn't a Christian,
18:37 I believe that God, you know, through my grandmother,
18:40 I believe in God.
18:41 And I believe that she when she tells me that
18:43 Jesus was coming back, I believe that too.
18:46 Well, I got to thinking about the salvation
18:48 of myself and my kids,
18:51 because they were sitting there
18:53 watching the same R rated stuff that we were.
18:55 Wow.
18:56 And I noticed the things coming out of their mouth
18:58 was not godly or Christian.
19:00 And so I started, it got me thinking about
19:05 maybe start going to church.
19:06 Wow.
19:07 And so I came home one day after work,
19:12 and I just happen to mention to my wife.
19:15 And by this time we had been married 13 years.
19:17 And like I mentioned earlier, it was not very good.
19:21 Matter of fact, I don't think we'd ever made the 14th year
19:25 'cause things have gotten so bad.
19:26 Wow.
19:28 But I mentioned to her, I said,
19:29 "You know, I think we need to start going to church."
19:32 And we lived in a rural area.
19:34 And my thoughts on that
19:36 there was a Baptist Church about a mile down the road,
19:39 all our neighbors go there.
19:40 So that's where I want to go.
19:42 And my wife was, well, when she was two years old,
19:48 her parents became Seventh-day Adventists.
19:50 Wow.
19:51 And so she was raised in the church
19:53 unlike a lot of our young people.
19:56 When we got married, she said bye and for 13 years,
20:01 I really didn't know anything about the Adventist Church
20:06 because she just basically, you know, just left.
20:10 And when I started talking about
20:12 this Baptist Church,
20:14 she said, "You know, I was raised an Adventist.
20:17 And I don't remember much about it,
20:19 but I know it's the truth."
20:20 And she said, that's where I want to go.
20:23 I said, okay.
20:25 You go ahead if you want to, you know.
20:26 So you want to go to the Baptist Church
20:28 just down the road.
20:29 Exactly.
20:30 She's saying, well, Jack, you know what,
20:32 I was raised a Seventh-day Adventist,
20:33 I'd really prefer to go
20:35 to a Seventh-day Adventist Church.
20:36 Exactly. Okay.
20:37 So the next Saturday,
20:39 she took the kids to the Adventist Church
20:40 and then Sunday,
20:41 she came with me and the kids to the Baptist Church.
20:44 Well, the Baptist pastor came over right after church,
20:48 we just barely got done with lunch
20:49 and knocked on the door.
20:51 And, you know, I'm going from heathen to starting,
20:56 kind of like this Jesus talk, you know.
20:59 And anyway, we're sitting there
21:02 having a really nice conversation.
21:04 And my wife said, "Pastor,
21:08 how come you don't keep the fourth commandment?"
21:10 And I'm really not knowing
21:13 what the fourth commandment was.
21:14 Well, he said,
21:15 "Well, there's a scripture in the Bible
21:17 that says it was done away with."
21:19 And I thought,
21:21 you know, this would be a good time to shut her up.
21:23 And so I went over there
21:25 and got this great big old family Bible that,
21:28 that's the only Bible we had in the house,
21:29 and lay it in his lap, had brushed the dust off of it.
21:34 'Cause I don't think it'd been opened
21:36 for the 13 years that we,
21:38 anyway, he peeled through the pages,
21:39 you know, they were still stuck together.
21:42 And subject got changed after about 10 minutes or so.
21:45 And that was it.
21:47 Well, for the first time in my life, I could not wait.
21:52 I went and got me a Bible the next day,
21:54 I could not wait to come home and read the Bible.
21:58 Wow.
21:59 And, I mean, I was just really absorbing it
22:02 and just really been blessed.
22:05 Well, the next weekend came along,
22:06 she took the kids to the Adventist Church,
22:09 and then went with me to the Baptist Church again.
22:12 And anyway, here comes the Baptist pastor
22:17 and one of the elders, so...
22:18 Knocking on your door again?
22:19 Knocking on the door,
22:21 oh, I got to get this young couple in here, you know.
22:22 Sure.
22:24 And anyway,
22:27 I'm really loving
22:29 what we're talking about.
22:31 Amen.
22:32 And I just happen to look over at my wife,
22:35 and she's sitting there and finally she said,
22:38 "But, Pastor, what about the fourth commandment?"
22:41 And at this time, I watched this,
22:44 this grown man just kind of squirm a little bit
22:47 and then he relaxed.
22:48 He said, "Well, it's been a long time tradition
22:52 to go to church on the first day of the week."
22:53 This is what the pastor said?
22:55 This is what the pastor said.
22:56 And I thought, "Oh, wait a minute,
22:59 I had just read the day before in Matthew 15,
23:02 it says, "But in vain they do worship me
23:05 teaching the doctrines the commandments of men?"
23:07 Oh, wow.
23:08 And when he said that, I thought, oh,
23:10 well, I remember then thinking,
23:12 okay, if you're not going to find that,
23:17 you know, or show us why,
23:20 I'm going to do it myself.
23:21 Because I basically worked on might is right,
23:26 you know what I mean?
23:27 The whole world can't be wrong on this issue.
23:30 And so that next week,
23:33 I went on an all-out Sabbath killing hunt.
23:37 Okay. And so that means what?
23:39 You're in the Word of God...
23:40 I'm in the Word of God,
23:42 I'm looking at everything.
23:44 You know, finally, by this time,
23:45 I've got the Concordance.
23:46 So I'm looking up Sabbath, and I'm looking at,
23:48 and every time I go, no,
23:51 that seems to say we should keep it.
23:53 And, boy, I'm just really scratching
23:55 my head at this time.
23:57 And I remember thinking, "Oh, what about the calendar?"
23:59 Now, it's the same seven day cycle.
24:02 It may change a few days there,
24:04 you know, but and really by the end of that week,
24:09 I'm really confused.
24:10 Question, what about your wife?
24:11 Is she involved in all in this?
24:13 No. No.
24:14 So you're just in there by yourself
24:16 just studying and research?
24:17 No, I surely didn't want to add any flame to that fire.
24:21 You know what I mean?
24:23 Because that would made her right.
24:24 Okay.
24:26 You know, I told you
24:27 I was from the church of heathenism,
24:28 you know, and anyway, that week went by,
24:33 but I'm starting to learn to pray.
24:35 And I'm starting to say, "Lord,
24:37 I don't know what's going on here,
24:38 but something's going on.
24:42 But whatever it is, I want truth.
24:45 I want to find out the truth there is."
24:46 Amen. That's right.
24:48 Well, that week next weekend.
24:50 I don't know for some reason,
24:52 I didn't feel like getting up to go to the Baptist Church.
24:56 And the following week,
25:01 I had come over,
25:05 or come home for lunch.
25:07 Tuesday at noon,
25:09 first time I'd come home for lunch ever.
25:12 I mean, I always generally eat out
25:13 or bring my lunch or whatever.
25:15 Well, I, what fix me a sandwich and I turned the TV on
25:18 and it was on 3ABN, you know.
25:23 Just so happened that it was on that that channel.
25:25 So did you normally watch 3ABN?
25:27 No, I didn't
25:28 but my wife had found out about it
25:30 from the Adventist pastor,
25:31 so she turned it there the night before.
25:34 And so anyway, I thought,
25:37 where's the remote at, you know?
25:39 I'm not ready to watch this channel, you know?
25:43 And so I'm looking for the remote
25:45 and all sudden this guy on the screen
25:47 starts talking about the Sabbath.
25:49 And so that kind of perked my ears up a little bit.
25:51 Sure, 'cause you've been dialed into the Sabbath topic.
25:54 Exactly.
25:56 Well, it was a Revelation seminar.
25:58 And anyway, so I, at the end of that program...
26:04 Who was the person? Did you know?
26:05 It was some bald-headed guy.
26:07 And... Okay.
26:09 Anyway, so at the end of that,
26:11 I thought where is brought about Sunday?
26:13 I was, why is that interchanged, you know?
26:16 Well, anyway, I came home Thursday at lunch,
26:22 and turn the TV on.
26:24 It was there again,
26:25 the same guy that was preaching on Tuesday,
26:28 learned, found out later
26:30 this guy was named Doug Batchelor
26:32 with Revelation seminar.
26:34 Yes.
26:35 And anyway, just so happened
26:38 he was given the first day text of you know,
26:42 in the New Testament,
26:44 and by the end of that program,
26:48 I'm thinking this is way too clear.
26:50 Is that coincidence or divine providence?
26:52 Divine providence. Divine providence.
26:54 Think about that.
26:55 Here you are, you never come home
26:57 to eat lunch...
26:58 Exactly.
26:59 Popped down in front of the TV, turn it on,
27:01 and your wife had 3ABN on
27:02 the night before and is still on.
27:04 And you're like what?
27:05 And it says Sabbath and you're like,
27:06 "Oh, that's what I've just been studying."
27:08 Yes. Praise the Lord.
27:09 And the funny thing about it,
27:10 Revelation seminar only came on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
27:13 And you came home on Tuesday.
27:14 I came home on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
27:16 Anyway, at the end of that program,
27:19 I thought that was way too clear.
27:23 The funny thing about it, the very next morning,
27:26 I had a guy coming out to do
27:28 some give us a quote on remodeling our kitchen,
27:31 or doing some work in the kitchen.
27:35 And as we're discussing, as my wife is still in bed,
27:40 and as we're discussing this, all of a sudden,
27:44 I started giving him a study on the Sabbath.
27:50 And a matter of fact, you know, I got my Bible out,
27:53 and I started, you know, showing him all the scriptures.
27:56 And the funny thing about it at the end of, when he left,
27:59 I could see he was like, I got to get out of here.
28:02 So you're giving him a Bible study
28:03 on the seventh day Sabbath?
28:05 Yes. Wow.
28:06 Proving on it.
28:08 My wife was still in bed at this time.
28:09 And she told me later, she didn't tell me then,
28:11 she told me later, she said,
28:13 "I just looked up at the ceiling and said,
28:14 'Thank you.'"
28:15 And, 'cause she could see what was going on there.
28:19 And funny thing about it,
28:21 I'm fresh and brand new in the Bible.
28:23 And I couldn't believe that I knew
28:25 where all these scriptures were.
28:26 I mean, it's like the Holy Spirit
28:28 was leading me.
28:29 Amen.
28:30 But anyway, later that evening,
28:34 the Adventist pastor came over
28:36 about a couple of days prior to that,
28:38 and I'm still a little bit standoffish,
28:41 and so they're over there talking,
28:43 but I'm over here doing my own thing.
28:45 But you're listening. I'm listening.
28:46 And anyway, I decided to ask him a question.
28:51 And so I asked him this question.
28:53 I don't remember what it was.
28:54 He reached out and grabbed his Bible
28:56 and read me a scripture and answered the question.
28:58 I thought, "That's pretty good.
29:00 And so a little bit later, I asked him another question.
29:02 He did the same exact thing.
29:04 Wow.
29:05 And it was all starting to tie together.
29:09 Well, by Saturday night, I said,
29:12 you know, I think I'll go to church
29:14 with you guys tomorrow.
29:16 And... So this was Friday night, or?
29:18 This was Friday night. Friday night.
29:19 Okay. Yeah.
29:21 And I've been going
29:22 to the Adventist Church ever since
29:24 and that's been about 30 years ago.
29:26 Praise the Lord.
29:28 Absolutely incredible, you know, that you go back
29:30 we were talking about divine providence,
29:32 coincidence, of course,
29:33 you know, it's divine providence
29:35 and I just, again, think about the Lord,
29:38 you know, and His long suffering
29:39 with us,
29:41 His mercy,
29:42 and He's ever drawing us right to Him.
29:43 Amen.
29:45 And giving us so many chances.
29:46 So many chances to find Him.
29:48 Amen. Wow.
29:50 You're somebody that was plucked so to speak,
29:53 yeah, from the, from first.
29:55 I remember the first Sabbath,
29:57 you know, my wife had already kind of filled me in on how to,
30:01 you know, keep the Sabbath holy and such.
30:03 Or maybe it was the second Sabbath.
30:04 And, man, I felt like I was in bondage.
30:07 And I mean, I can't do nothing, you know, I can't do this.
30:11 Well, by the third Sabbath, I'm starting to think,
30:14 "Hey, I kind of like this."
30:15 Because prior to this, I'm a workaholic.
30:19 I worked seven days a week."
30:20 And I finally got a day that I can rest in Him
30:25 with family and not worry about work and everything.
30:28 Well, then the pastor at that time,
30:30 he had started going to the prisons.
30:34 And he had asked me,
30:37 "Would you mind coming out and sharing the song?"
30:40 And be grudgingly, I said, "Okay."
30:43 Because, like I said, I'm starting
30:45 to really get into this Sabbath lay activity.
30:48 Sure.
30:49 Anyway, but I had been in...
30:52 What's neat thing about this,
30:55 I had been doing music for most of my life.
30:59 I got my first guitar when I was about 10.
31:01 And singing in the bars and clubs
31:04 and rock and roll and country.
31:07 Anyway, a week or so prior to that,
31:10 he asked me, say, "Hey,
31:12 would you mind doing a special in church?"
31:14 Well, I didn't know any Christian songs.
31:16 But I had remembered in the past,
31:20 every time that I ever heard How Great Thou Art,
31:24 the Holy Spirit,
31:25 even though I was not even listening or following,
31:28 Holy Spirit said, "One of these days,
31:29 you're going to sing it in church."
31:31 I'd go, "Well, that's nice."
31:32 And then I chuck it on my mind.
31:34 And, so, when he asked me to do a special,
31:38 I thought, "Okay, well, I know what song I'm going to do."
31:42 And so I had to learn it real quick.
31:44 And, well, anyway he said,
31:45 "Hey, would you do this at the prison?"
31:48 And I said, "Okay."
31:51 Well, what was neat about?
31:52 This started a weekly thing going
31:55 to prison in the Saturday afternoon.
31:56 Wow.
31:58 And after I'd get up and sing my song,
32:01 which at first it was one,
32:02 and then I started learning some more.
32:05 And now I've got hundreds of songs
32:08 that I sing out there.
32:09 But what was really great was after I'd sing my song,
32:13 I'd sit down,
32:14 and when they were teaching them,
32:16 guess who else was being taught?
32:17 Myself. You were.
32:18 And eventually, I was the teacher.
32:21 And what's amazing, man, friend of mine,
32:25 Tom Solomon, we've been doing that for 30 years now.
32:28 Wow. Prison ministry? Exactly.
32:30 And we have a lady who we actually baptized
32:33 about 20 years ago and got out
32:36 and now she's one of our volunteers
32:37 that helps us out there, but it's incredible.
32:40 Through the years, I've got to go on mission trips
32:44 all over the world,
32:45 Panama, Venezuela, Honduras, Mexico,
32:48 probably 20 times or more, Uruguay,
32:52 and even got to do a three week evangelistic meeting
32:55 in India about 20 years ago.
32:58 Why don't I just stop you right here and just,
32:59 'cause there's someone too that's just now saying,
33:02 "You know, I've just committed my life to God,
33:04 and I'm not quite sure what to do next."
33:07 For you, it seemed to be very important.
33:08 You committed yourself to God,
33:10 made a decision to follow Christ,
33:11 and you got involved.
33:13 Amen.
33:14 That's very important, isn't it?
33:15 Very important.
33:17 What would you tell someone right now?
33:18 They've just accepted Christ, now what do I do?
33:20 What do they do?
33:21 What would you recommend to them?
33:22 You know the Bible says that we are saved by grace.
33:26 And a little book called Steps to Christ,
33:28 I'm trying to remember the page,
33:29 maybe page 50, or 70,
33:31 or something right through there.
33:33 She says the only way to grow in grace
33:36 is to be doing the work
33:37 that God has called for us to do.
33:39 Amen. And you know what?
33:41 He's not going to call me and not call you.
33:43 That's right.
33:44 Everybody is called, everybody is a minister,
33:46 everybody, when He's, when Jesus said,
33:49 "Go ye," I'm ye, you're ye, and everybody is ye,
33:54 if you're a Christian, if you believe in God,
33:56 we're all called to do but...
33:58 Yeah. No, that's really important.
34:00 'Cause I think about
34:01 your involvement in prison ministry,
34:02 and you're still involved, your mission trips,
34:04 getting involved sharing, 'cause it's neat,
34:06 you're learning, but then you're also sharing
34:09 and you're ministering and at the same time,
34:10 you are growing.
34:12 So the Christian life is not just a bed of roses, is it?
34:14 No.
34:15 There's also challenges and things,
34:17 so share with us some of those
34:18 and how you got through those?
34:19 Well, when I was working with the folks, with satellite,
34:21 I eventually, through after we joined the church,
34:25 and even from my family,
34:27 I started to have a little Sabbath persecution.
34:30 You know, they would schedule these things
34:32 on Sabbath or Saturday.
34:35 And I'd say, "Mom, I can't do it,
34:37 or dad, I can't do that."
34:38 And so I started my own mini dish satellite company.
34:42 And this was probably about 1996, I think,
34:46 and eventually, it had,
34:52 by 1999,
34:54 I felt impressed to sell it.
34:57 And I had 70 employees by that time,
35:01 it was 19 locations in seven states.
35:05 It was prospering.
35:06 Very, it was doing really well.
35:08 And anyway, one weekend,
35:10 I felt impressed to sell it and I thought, "Okay, Lord,
35:12 if You want me to sell it,
35:14 you're going to have to send me a buyer."
35:15 Two hours later, a guy calls me and said,
35:18 "Hey, I'd like to talk to you about buying your company."
35:22 What does that tell you, you know?
35:24 Better sell the company. Exactly.
35:26 Well, anyway... Wow.
35:28 He came down to talk the next day,
35:29 we spoke about three hours.
35:31 And he said, "I want it."
35:32 And within a couple of months,
35:34 December of '99, he took possession of it,
35:37 while I went full fledge into Turn to Jesus Ministries,
35:41 got it organized, and registered to be a...
35:46 Nonprofit.
35:47 Nonprofit, 501c3.
35:49 And my problem was,
35:54 I was seeing God work.
35:55 And so and a lot of new believers'
35:59 hearts sometimes
36:01 we want so bad to please God
36:05 that we get ahead of Him.
36:07 And what I mean by that... Wow.
36:09 Say that one more time, 'cause that's profound.
36:11 We want to believe, we want to please God
36:14 so much sometimes that we get ahead of Him.
36:16 You know, sanctification is a work of a lifetime.
36:19 Yes, it is.
36:21 I had spent 30 some years at this point,
36:23 getting all of this out.
36:25 Well, I was wanting to get it out really quick.
36:27 And I got ahead of Him.
36:29 And the worst part about that
36:31 is Satan starts to work with you too.
36:34 And he's like, "Hey, you're ready for translation?
36:37 You know, you're perfect now.
36:38 You're ready." And I tell you what?
36:40 It'll mess with your mind, especially as a new believer,
36:43 a young believer.
36:45 And I had to go through a trial there.
36:49 There was a point, and I've...
36:51 I'm full time ministry now, you know?
36:53 And there was probably about two or three years into it,
36:57 I'm thinking, "You know, wow,
37:02 Jesus, come now, I'm ready."
37:03 You know what I mean?
37:04 Even though we're supposed to have that assurance,
37:06 but it was not the same with me
37:08 because I had gotten way ahead of God.
37:12 Well, God had to allow me to go through this trial,
37:16 and it was very devastating.
37:20 Matter of fact, in the aftermath of it,
37:22 I decided to go ahead and start another business.
37:27 I started realizing that my faith wasn't as genuine
37:31 as I thought it was.
37:33 I mean, at, in the aftermath of this trial,
37:36 it really, really messed me up in a lot of ways.
37:39 And I had basically had to start all over.
37:42 And...
37:44 How do you hang on to God
37:45 in the midst of something like that?
37:46 What did you do? You know what?
37:48 I never quit paying tithes,
37:49 I never quit keeping the Sabbath.
37:53 I remembered what my life was like prior,
37:57 I remembered what it did to my family,
37:59 I remembered, and I didn't want to go back to that.
38:02 So... To heathenism and the heathen.
38:03 Exactly and I remembered the piece.
38:07 And that He offered, that He gave,
38:10 and I didn't want to lose that.
38:12 So I was still attending church.
38:14 But I was not, I was struggling.
38:17 And I was not giving my heart fully back to Him
38:21 mostly because I was a little afraid
38:24 and because during this trial,
38:28 I don't know if anybody can relate to this or not.
38:31 But it was like God said, okay.
38:36 Or actually it's first like Satan said,
38:39 "Nobody touch him, don't nobody touch him.
38:41 Just leave him alone."
38:42 I went for like two months thinking,
38:44 "Wow, this is incredible."
38:46 The worst part about that,
38:47 with that some type of temptation.
38:49 Matter of fact, that's why
38:50 James had counted all joy for divers temptation,
38:53 Without temptation,
38:55 you really get laxed and really get lazy.
38:57 Well, all of a sudden, after about two months,
39:01 is like Satan said, "Get him."
39:04 And I mean, he grabbed me by the collar,
39:06 it's like it stuck me down
39:08 in a pen of Doberman Pinschers and said sick him,
39:11 and for two months, I mean, it was constant,
39:14 constant harassment just and it felt like
39:18 I could hang on for a couple of weeks or so.
39:20 But then all of a sudden
39:21 your mind starts thinking about some,
39:23 the most evil and wicked things.
39:25 And I was so never was so glad at the end of that two months
39:28 that it finally just quit.
39:31 Wow.
39:32 And that was kind of in the aftermath of this trial.
39:35 So that's great.
39:37 So you continued going to church,
39:38 you continued reading the Bible,
39:39 praying, giving your tithes, hanging on with Your life.
39:44 Exactly. Yeah. Okay.
39:45 So you felt impressed then to start a business.
39:47 Is that right? Yes, exactly.
39:49 All right. And then what happened next?
39:50 Well, I started a business and it was...
39:55 What's funny, I started this business
39:57 'cause I was a graphic artist,
39:59 kind of, you know, junior graphic artist,
40:02 so to speak.
40:03 Oh, you're doing a good job. Good work.
40:05 Anyway, after about a year.
40:08 Oh, I thought, oh, man, this is a tough business.
40:10 And matter of fact, after about two years,
40:13 I started hating this business, really didn't like it.
40:17 And after about five years, I thought,
40:20 "This is my purgatory
40:22 that I've got to go through, you know."
40:24 But the funny thing about it through this time,
40:27 I planted two churches, pastored both of them,
40:31 and we're still doing the prison ministry,
40:34 still doing everything.
40:35 And I could feel that God was rebuilding me back.
40:38 But this time, what's funny, there was a...
40:40 There was a book that I had in my library,
40:43 it was called To Know God Book One
40:47 or Five Days,
40:49 but and it was more spending.
40:50 Oh, yes. That did such wonders for me.
40:54 It taught me about, you know, letting Him rebuild me back.
40:58 And so for the next 18 years,
41:01 while I'm still got this sign company,
41:03 I'm building back
41:05 and, well, about a year and a half,
41:10 a little, about a year and a half ago,
41:13 my wife and I were talking, we're both in our 60s now.
41:15 And we started thinking about how are we going to,
41:19 you know, settle back down?
41:21 And I had thought,
41:27 in my business, man,
41:31 I'm going to probably have to operate it
41:32 until I'm least 66 and then just shut it down,
41:35 'cause I really couldn't see selling it
41:39 or finding somebody that would want to buy it.
41:41 I mean, it had grown quite a bit
41:44 since I'd started at 18 years earlier,
41:46 I had probably five or six bucket trucks,
41:49 two or three cranes and 12 employees
41:52 or something like that.
41:53 And it was a good, profitable business.
41:56 But I was miserable.
41:58 You know, I...
42:00 You know, I just wasn't happy doing it.
42:01 It was, the stress was incredible.
42:03 Every time the guys would go out,
42:05 you know, and have a,
42:06 you know, a $30,000 sign in the year,
42:09 you know, my stress would think,
42:10 "Oh, what happens if the cable breaks?
42:13 Or, what if they're up there and get hurt."
42:14 You know, and it just really was stress.
42:17 Well, when we had this talk that night in September,
42:23 two days later, I get an email from a guy in Tulsa and said,
42:27 "Hey, Jack, I was wondering
42:29 if you would be interested in selling your company?"
42:32 Wow. Oh, my goodness.
42:34 And I said, "Well,
42:35 we could talk about it, you know?"
42:36 Sure.
42:38 Well, that was in September, by December the first,
42:39 he owned the company.
42:41 Wow, that's quick.
42:42 That quick.
42:43 And so I started praying, well, I first saw my wife,
42:47 I said, "You know, honey,
42:49 if I can maybe have 30 days
42:52 of just no really responsibilities
42:57 at the stress would be,"
42:58 I found out it took six to eight months
43:01 to finally break loose.
43:02 And the funny anything about it,
43:04 for all of this time,
43:06 I was praying daily, "Lord, what do You want me to do?"
43:09 Yes.
43:10 "Lord, do You want me to start another business?
43:11 Do You want me to do full time ministry?"
43:15 You know, and, here's the scary thing.
43:19 For most of this time,
43:20 I was not getting any answers either way.
43:23 And I mean, I still had plenty of things
43:26 around the house to keep me busy.
43:28 And anyway, it wasn't until about October
43:34 that He started impressing me to do the ministry.
43:39 And matter of fact, even after that,
43:42 I looked in another business to get into,
43:44 and it was like He squelched that out real quick,
43:47 a two or three different times.
43:49 And God was wanting to make sure
43:52 that I was ready this time.
43:54 I had to get rid of all the stress,
43:55 all of these things from the past in order to,
43:58 you know, to fully get back into it.
44:01 Well, I fired TTJ ministries back up,
44:05 it kind of laid dormant all those years.
44:06 Yeah.
44:08 We're talking about 18, 15 years?
44:09 Yeah, it took a while. Yeah.
44:11 It was still, I was keeping up my findings
44:13 so I could stay current on it.
44:15 And, well, let me back up a little bit
44:19 in October of 2020,
44:22 one of our church members, Wesley, had came to me,
44:26 he said, we've got a new DVD project,
44:30 Final Days DVD, I hope you recognize that.
44:32 I sure do.
44:33 He came to me and he said, "I need a web page,
44:35 or I need a Facebook page and a YouTube page,
44:39 would you help me?"
44:40 And I said, "Sure."
44:42 Well, as we were setting that up and everything,
44:45 you know, I said "What your plans on?"
44:47 He goes, "Well, we're going to print up
44:48 as many of these DVDs and hand them out
44:50 and mail them out and such like that."
44:52 And I said, "You know what would really
44:55 be more effective and a lot less expensive?
44:58 On your Facebook page, you can boost it
45:00 for just hundreds and reach millions of people."
45:06 And so they started doing that
45:09 and really had some success.
45:10 Well, you know, I thought when my ministry got fired up,
45:14 I need to put my money where my mouth is.
45:16 And so I, from December the fifth
45:21 to now,
45:23 I've had about 3600 Bible study requests
45:28 from many places around the world.
45:29 Like, we'll see, I've done Southwestern Union,
45:34 which is Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana,
45:37 did that on a kind of a joint venture with ASI,
45:40 our local chapter there.
45:42 Did Australia, New Zealand, Philippines, Hong Kong,
45:45 and Mexico and Uruguay.
45:48 I figured out a way to do it in a foreign language
45:52 and it's amazing because for instance,
45:56 Mexico so far this year, this month
46:00 has got 17,168 Bible study requests.
46:04 Wow, absolutely incredible.
46:06 My question to you is 'cause someone may be saying,
46:08 "Well what is Turn to Jesus Ministries?"
46:10 So maybe describe that in the next couple of minutes
46:12 what is this ministry that you have?
46:13 Then we're going to give some contact information
46:15 in about five or six minutes or so.
46:16 What is Turn to Jesus Ministries?
46:18 Turn to Jesus Ministries,
46:19 let's see if they could show the Bible.
46:21 Yeah.
46:23 Anyway, it, we use the social media
46:25 to get the gospel out.
46:27 Basically, Bible Made Easy,
46:29 I actually started about three years ago
46:31 and main reason I started,
46:33 I produced in my bedroom
46:37 26 videos of our teachings.
46:40 Okay.
46:41 And, you know, it's pretty humbly done,
46:43 not like 3ABN studios and such but anyway,
46:48 well then, as I had mentioned that ASI they decided,
46:53 "Hey, we'd love to do this."
46:54 So I developed Bible Prophecy Made Easy
46:57 Facebook page for them.
46:59 Okay. And...
47:00 There it is.
47:01 Well then as, I thought,
47:03 you know, we need to really get in,
47:04 we need, there's a lot of different languages
47:06 so I started putting the stuff together
47:10 to do this Spanish territory,
47:12 and which La Biblia hecha facil.
47:16 I'm not a Spanish speaking person,
47:18 but I am amazed
47:21 at how incredible
47:25 that those at work, the reach there.
47:27 So what is, so Turn to Jesus Ministries
47:29 and so you've developed
47:31 or recorded some videos, is that right?
47:32 Given the basic foundational teachings?
47:34 Well, actually, on the...
47:37 Let me back up with the boosting.
47:39 I've been using
47:40 for the English Hope through Prophecy,
47:44 Dustin Pestlin's videos.
47:45 Okay.
47:47 I use, I'm putting a mark of the beast on there.
47:50 I'm thinking we're at the time
47:51 that we need to really go for the gusto,
47:53 the third angel's message, and it's working very well.
47:57 So this is on YouTube?
47:58 This is on YouTube, and on the Spanish
48:00 I'm using Carlos Munoz
48:04 from Amazing Facts on that.
48:08 And for Bible studies,
48:09 Amazing Facts has incredible website called
48:13 amazingbiblestudies.com
48:15 Oh, yes.
48:16 It's in about nine or so different languages.
48:20 And those are the guides
48:22 that I use when I came into the church,
48:24 and I've used all through the years
48:26 in the prisons and mission trips.
48:28 And they work really well.
48:30 So the good thing about this ministry,
48:33 basically, I just have to pay for the advertising
48:39 to send it out through the world.
48:42 And we have all these other resources
48:44 to use to get it.
48:46 So what's been the response then
48:48 to Turn to Jesus Ministries,
48:49 'cause obviously there's been some response coming back
48:50 because there can be comments on YouTube.
48:52 Oh, yeah.
48:53 So tell us some comments that have come back from this?
48:56 I tell you what,
48:57 we could probably spend another hour
48:59 sharing that had been so positive.
49:01 You know, anytime you tweak the devil's tail,
49:03 he's going to get in there.
49:05 I would say out of the,
49:07 all of the 3600 requests in just a little over a month,
49:13 I would say probably
49:16 maybe a dozen bad remarks.
49:20 And most of those are, you know, are not real bad.
49:24 They just don't agree with it.
49:25 But most of them have been so very positive.
49:28 They have said how much they loved it
49:30 and they want more.
49:32 And so I sent them a link for 17 more videos,
49:34 I sent them a link to enroll in the Bible studies.
49:38 And what's neat is the ones
49:40 who continually call back
49:44 I probably led at least 20
49:46 or so in the last month
49:47 two churches around the world.
49:49 And... Okay, so that's really nice.
49:52 So they can actually
49:53 directly contact your ministry then,
49:55 Turn to Jesus Ministries through what email or phone?
49:58 Yes, it's... Okay.
49:59 And we'll put that up in just a couple of minutes.
50:01 Okay.
50:02 So in other words, then you're there as a resource.
50:03 Exactly. And that's a help.
50:05 Wow, that's powerful.
50:06 So then they can contact you and you can point them
50:07 in the right direction like, "Hey,
50:09 in this area of the world or the country
50:12 there's a church or there's a pastor,
50:14 or there's a Bible study group.
50:15 Absolutely.
50:16 Also the website, it's got,
50:18 it'll have our music ministry
50:19 still involved in music ministry.
50:21 Yes. Tell us about that. Okay.
50:22 Over the past few years,
50:24 I've been able to produce three CDs.
50:27 Oh, wow.
50:28 The last one I'm really proud of it's the one in the middle,
50:31 it's called look up all the songs on it I,
50:34 the Lord gave me wrote.
50:36 And I recorded it in Nashville
50:38 with really top notch musicians
50:41 which was fun, really fun.
50:43 Most of it I had to kind of make it
50:45 through on my own talents and such but...
50:47 That's really neat, you know, 'cause I think about,
50:49 you know, the all the gifts that God has given you,
50:50 I think about your growing up and the challenges
50:53 and how God has led you on this incredible journey,
50:55 and then how God is using them now for Him.
50:58 Amen.
50:59 Your music as you were, where you said
51:00 in the clubs and all this with your music.
51:02 Amen.
51:03 Now you're doing music, prison ministry,
51:04 you have albums.
51:06 I think about even your love for research,
51:07 and then how God has used that
51:09 then to even bring you into the truth.
51:10 Amen. Absolutely.
51:11 Amen. Powerful.
51:13 What we want to go to right now
51:14 is actually the address role for Jack Stout
51:17 and Turn to Jesus Ministries
51:18 that has all the contact information,
51:20 how you can support because he has a 501c3,
51:23 if this is on impressed,
51:25 the Holy Spirit is impressing you
51:26 to help support him,
51:28 they can send you a tax deductible receipt,
51:30 but you're actually helping to spread the gospel
51:31 to a lost and dying world through his ministry.
51:34 So we encourage you to do that.
51:36 Or if you want to contact like, wow, how is he doing this?
51:38 I'm interested in Bible studies myself.
51:40 Brother Jack Stout is there to help you
51:42 and to show you the way, the truth,
51:44 and the life through Jesus Christ.
51:45 Let's go to the address role and then we'll be back
51:47 with a couple of closing comments.
51:50 If you would like to contact
51:51 or know more about Turn to Jesus Ministries,
51:53 you can do so in the following ways.
51:56 You can write to them at PO Box 1250,
51:59 Muskogee, Oklahoma 74402.
52:04 You can call them at 918-869-6571.
52:09 That's 918-869-6571.
52:14 You can visit their website at ttjministries.org
52:18 That's ttjministries.org
52:23 You can also write them an email at
52:24 turntojesusministries777 @gmail.com


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