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00:04 ♪ I want to spend my life mending broken people ♪ 00:15 ♪ I want to spend my life removing pain ♪ 00:26 ♪ Lord let my words heal a heart that hurts ♪ 00:36 ♪ I want to spend my life mending broken people ♪ 00:56 ♪ ♪ 01:07 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. We are so 01:10 glad that you have joined us today. You know we enjoy 01:13 spending this one hour with you. One of the reasons of course is 01:16 you're part of the 3ABN family and we want to tell you thank 01:20 you for your prayers and financial support for the 01:23 ministry of 3ABN. You know Daniel without them and without 01:26 of course the Holy Spirit 3ABN would not be able to reach the 01:29 entire world. So what a blessing We know you're all about 01:32 evangelism. Today's going to be a really fun program and I have 01:35 a cohost with me Daniel Perrin. You all know him. You've seen 01:38 him on of course many programs here at 3ABN but Daniel you know 01:42 you're actually my neighbor. Just across the little stream 01:44 their house is and no too far away. But it's a blessing to be 01:47 on the program with you today. 01:48 Always good to have good neighbors nearby and all across 01:51 the world too. 01:53 Yeah, Amen. Yeah you're definitely part of the 3ABN 01:54 family. But Daniel we've got an exciting program. It's about The 01:58 Great Controversy. We're going to talk about that. And of 02:00 course I know that you and your family like to do evangelism and 02:03 distribute The Great Controversy 02:05 That's right. We've got a couple of opportunities and continue 02:07 here in this local area distributing The Great 02:09 Controversy. And we know God is a part of this ministry. 02:13 Amen. Well, that's for sure. Why don't you introduce our guests 02:15 Today? 02:17 Sure. We've got right here with us in the studio Eric Rose who 02:20 is the director of Daniel Twelve Three Ministries. Glad to 02:24 have you here today. (Thank you) 02:26 And then from across the world literally in the 02:29 Philippines we have Josh Binas who I'm curious or eager to find 02:34 out your involvement here. You're The Great Controversy 02:37 Magazine project founder and Director. So looking forward to 02:41 hearing what that means. 02:44 Yeah, glad to be here. 02:46 So the Philippines so I'm not really the best with geography 02:52 but I think of Manilla, Philippines. Are you close to 02:54 Manilla in the Philippines where you live? 02:56 No not very close. It takes a flight to go there. 03:02 So what town are you in? 03:04 It's Iloilo City, the town is Haro, so it's in the heart of the 03:12 Philippines. 03:14 Amen. Well I know that we're definitely talking about...we 03:17 mentioned the evangelism today. I want to just gentlemen talk 03:21 about this before we go to some music. The GC we always kind of 03:25 mention it as the GC or The Great Controversy. Tell us about 03:28 what The Great Controversy is. We're talking about that and you 03:31 at home say great controversy. Are you talking like a battle, a 03:34 fight? You know what is that. Some people may not know what 03:37 the great controversy is and we'll launch into the book, the 03:39 magazine and all that today. 03:40 The Great Controversy is a wonderful book about history and 03:46 prophecy. It has 42 chapters. It starts off with the 03:50 destruction of Jerusalem. It goes through the Dark Ages, 03:53 and ends with the thrilling events in prophecy and 03:57 culminates in the second coming of Christ. 04:00 Yeah. That's a good summary. 04:01 Yeah. Why this book of all other books? How is this book special 04:05 to you? 04:06 Well how it's special to me because when I was 16 years old 04:11 I pulled it off my parents' book case shelf and read it and it 04:16 changed my life, brought me to tears. I saw that I was a sinner 04:20 that the Christ was coming soon. And so from that point my life 04:24 really took a 180-degree turn. 04:27 Yeah. So that's a really good question Daniel. So then what 04:31 about you Josh. Why is The Great Controversy special to you? 04:33 It's actually one of the books that really opened my mind to 04:39 the reality of life. You know The Great Controversy, it's not 04:44 just a book, it's a reality and of course, we'll talk more of 04:51 that but right now I want to say that when we say Great 04:55 Controversy we've known taking our bosoms. 04:58 There's a conflict between right 05:00 and the wrong in this world. However many are asking where 05:04 is this leading to? Will the great controversy be forever or 05:09 will it have an end? How will it end? That is what this book 05:15 actually tells us. 05:16 Mmm. Yeah people are asking a lot of questions and this book 05:20 certainly addresses those issues that people are caring about in 05:23 the world today. 05:24 Amen. You know and if you're familiar with The Great 05:26 Controversy book, I mean we all are, it's kind of thought of as 05:30 a thicker book. I mean I'm looking at these here today I 05:32 mean they're just like wow, The Great Controversy, this seems 05:35 like a little magazine so that's what I'm really excited about 05:37 today. Because one of the things we're going to be talking about 05:39 is The Great Controversy Magazine which is just an 05:43 amazing, amazing project. I know partly evangelism partly mission 05:46 work. It involves families so I know you guys have some right... 05:50 you're both married, so tell us a little bit about your family 05:52 if you have any kids or not. 05:53 Start with you, Eric. 05:54 I'm married to my wife Amanda. We have two children, my son 05:57 Kent, 10 years old, and my daughter Patience is six. 06:01 Okay, all right, yep, there's a picture of a beautiful family 06:03 there. And they're involved in ministry with you? 06:06 Yeah, they help with The Great Controversy Magazine. 06:07 All right, that's good. What about you Josh? 06:10 I'm also married to Novilisa and we don't have a, there we go, we 06:20 don't have a child yet but we have a cat. 06:25 All right. Well congratulations on your recent marriage of 06:28 course. That's awesome. Really excited. (And the cat.) And the 06:31 cat yeah. It's part of the family. Now before we get into 06:35 today's project. Let's go to some music. We all like some 06:37 music. And Gene McDonald of course is a great friend of the 06:40 ministry of 3ABN and super talented. The Lord's given him 06:42 an incredible gift. And the song that he'll be sharing today is 06:45 Love Lifted Me. 06:47 ♪ ♪ 06:51 ♪ Love lifted me, love lifted me love lifted me ♪ 06:59 ♪ I was sinking deep in sin far from the peaceful shore ♪ 07:06 ♪ Very deeply stained within Sinking to rise no more ♪ 07:11 ♪ But the Master of the sea Heard me despairing cry ♪ 07:20 ♪ From the waters lifted me now safe am I ♪ 07:26 ♪ Love lifted me, Love lifted me ♪ 07:33 ♪ When nothing else could help Love lifted me ♪ 07:41 ♪ Love lifted me, Love lifted me ♪ 07:47 ♪ When nothing else could help Love lifted me ♪ 07:55 ♪ Souls in danger look above Jesus completely saves ♪ 08:02 ♪ He will lift you by his love out of the angry waves ♪ 08:09 ♪ He's the master of the sea Billows his will obey ♪ 08:15 ♪ He your Savior wants to be be saved today ♪ 08:21 ♪ Love lifted me, Love lifted me ♪ 08:29 ♪ When nothing else could help love lifted me ♪ 08:37 ♪ Love lifted me, Love lifted me ♪ 08:44 ♪ When nothing else could help love lifted me ♪ 08:51 ♪ Love lifted me, Love lifted me Love lifted me ♪ 09:06 Hey man. Thank you so much Gene McDonald. I'll tell you what, 09:11 that's a happy song, isn't it? (It is) What great lines and 09:14 what a great message and you couldn't hear us be we were kind 09:17 of singing along on the set. Even saw Josh there singing 09:19 along in the Philippines. Again, thank you again for that 09:22 wonderful song. And I think about The Great Controversy book 09:25 It ends with what? 09:27 God is love. 09:28 Kind of fits the song doesn't it 09:30 Right. We need to look up above It's a good thing to do. 09:34 Yeah, amen. All right so if you're just now joining us we're 09:37 going to be talking about The Great Controversy and actually 09:38 a brand new project which is The Great Controversy Magazine. 09:41 We're going to be talking also about some of the projects that 09:44 Daniel Twelve-Three what your ministry is all about. But 09:47 Daniel. 09:49 So when we think about The Great Controversy Magazine which we 09:52 have a portion of it here. It didn't actually start with 09:53 Daniel Twelve-Three Ministries but it started with Josh. We'd 09:57 love to hear the story. What led to the formation of this 10:01 magazine idea and bringing it about? 10:04 Yeah, it's really a privilege to share with you the story behind 10:11 this. So let me begin with um I grew up hearing from my father, 10:18 my late father, about The Great Controversy. He has been talking 10:23 about this, you know wherever he goes. And I was just pretending 10:32 that I know what it means so I also, tell people you know read 10:35 the book, read the book. But I had not actually even read the 10:39 book. There was even a time if you're familiar with the book 10:42 there's a chapter there the title is Luther Before the Diet 10:48 and if you've read that you know that the Diet is actually called 10:54 the Diet of Worms. So I was flipping through the pages and 10:57 and I was looking for worms. When did Luther eat worms in 11:02 this chapter? I was just...I don't know what The Great 11:08 Controversy is about. My father died in early 2017 and I was 11:17 thinking to myself the things that he tried to share with me 11:23 I have not even read them. But at the same time, I don't have 11:29 the passion to read. So the Lord actually called me to ministry 11:34 I was then in medical school. The Lord called me to ministry 11:39 during an event here, a revival event. It's called PYC, 11:48 Philippine Youth for Christ and it was the first time that I was 11:54 intentional in giving my life to Jesus. And the Lord was pulling 12:00 me stronger than my desire to go on with life with basically no 12:05 direction. And I'm not saying that people should leave school 12:09 but what I'm saying is, if God is calling you then go to where 12:13 he leads and this is where I found joy and this is also where 12:17 I began to open the book and basically 2017 12:25 was also the 500th 12:28 year anniversary, the 500 anniversary of the protestant 12:34 reformation. And there's something in The Great 12:38 Controversy that today when we talk about the reformation 12:42 there's so many opinions about it. But there in The Great 12:46 Controversy we will see how Jesus actually fulfilled his 12:52 words when he said I will be with you until the end of the 12:56 world, until the end of the time that you will be preaching the 13:02 gospel to all nations and...You know the Dark Ages were a time 13:06 that the Bible was hidden from the public. The first part of 13:11 The Great Controversy deals with this and for my life it was also 13:16 the time that God opened to me His words, His promises, His joy 13:21 his presence. And from that time on I was just thinking if we 13:27 could do something because people usually don't read big 13:31 books, if we can just do something to split this book 13:39 apart and then my friend said why not magazines? My friend 13:48 Christopher. Then that was when I was like oh it will cost so 13:50 much. But that's when you know if the Lord tells you to do 13:56 something and he will not just give up on you even if you don't 13:59 understand. He will begin to reveal things to you and from 14:03 that time onward a lot of things happened until a local 14:10 conference, a church conference, actually said okay so the idea 14:16 sounds interesting. Why not we push it. And so one pastor he 14:22 he feels really passionate about this. He what you call this, he 14:29 raised the seed money and there was somebody who it was 14:32 her birthday but she gave all of her birthday budget to whatever 14:43 the project needs. And two years it took two years to actually 14:50 create something that's usable to be printed until the first 14:55 prints went out in 2020. 15:00 So yeah. These are just absolutely fantastic. I mean 15:02 when you look at them, Danny. They're absolutely amazing full 15:05 color throughout just beautiful magazines, well done. Did you 15:08 do the design work on the inside yourself. You took The Great 15:12 Controversy and did all the illustration and everything, 15:14 layout. 15:17 Oh by God's grace, I'm just an instrument to put things 15:21 together. So the pictures there are actually even gone to 15:27 public domain. I don't know how to explain it. A picture that's 15:33 like more than 100 years old, 100 years that the author died 15:36 it's labeled in the museum as public domain... 15:43 They're absolutely fantastic. So then tell us your vision for 15:48 the distribution because you know magazines it's like okay so 15:51 when you give the book it has all the chapters. So to do a 15:53 magazine you know you might have multiple, multiple magazines 15:57 right? Different chapters. So what was your original vision 15:59 for to distribute them? 16:01 Originally it was like you gave a chapter one to a person and if 16:12 he wants to have more than you give him the next chapter and 16:15 then the next one. However, as we're doing this we realized 16:19 some people want a specific chapter that would answer their 16:24 question and so we just left it all to God to do what he wants. 16:30 We just print and print and print. Some people are asking 16:34 for chapter 17, some people are asking for chapter 37, some are 16:39 asking for chapter one and so yeah, right now it's like... 16:46 So question then Eric, so I'm coming to you now. So how then 16:50 did The Great Controversy Magazine and Daniel Twelve-Three 16:54 come together here? 16:55 So Daniel Twelve-Three was started as a group of six 16:58 friends, mainly in 16:59 the U.S. with a passion and a vision for creating a team that 17:04 could manage projects around the world, soul-winning projects. 17:07 And so when we heard about The Great Controversy Magazine in 17:11 the Philippines we saw there was just intrinsic value to it and 17:15 we realized that it's not just Philippinos but Americans of 17:21 almost all classes they're not ready to crack open a 500-page 17:25 book with no pictures in it typically. And so we knew that 17:30 these would reach a class of people that could not be reached 17:32 by the full book. I love the full book. I was converted by 17:35 the book but the magazines are special. And so when we saw that 17:42 there was such a potential for using it we wanted to bring it 17:47 to the United States and publish it here. But it was expensive 17:53 like Josh said. It would cost to print large runs of 42 separate 17:58 magazines it was tremendous for each chapter and so we wanted to 18:06 bring it here but we thought well maybe we need to let a 18:09 bigger ministry handle this. Someone that really has the 18:12 funds to make it happen. And so we were thinking about that, 18:17 talking to people about it but no one just seemed to have a 18:20 real burden for it. And so we decided to hold a meeting and 18:26 see what God's will was about it So we called Josh. We had people 18:31 from the U.S. on the Zoom call, right? It was a Sunday evening 18:34 and I was going to be leading out in the meeting. And it was 18:39 the time for the meeting, the meeting had started but no one 18:43 was speaking yet and let me just say before I go on that we had 18:46 a printing quote for the first 10,000 copies of chapter one. 18:50 Of chapter one, okay. 18:52 And the amount was $5500 was the price which we didn't have and 18:59 we thought...So we were about to start the meeting and I heard a 19:04 knock at the door and it was my wife and she was holding her 19:07 phone and she said someone wants to talk to you right now. It was 19:11 a bad time because I was about to lead out in the meeting and I 19:14 forgot to mute my mike for the Zoom call. But I answered her 19:18 phone and the man on the line whom I really didn't know, he 19:22 said I've been wrestling with God all day and I've finally 19:24 given in. He said I told the Lord that if he answered the 19:30 phone I would give it to him. I didn't know what he was talking 19:32 about. But he said I'm getting into my truck right now and he 19:36 showed up at my house during the meeting with $5000 cash. 19:39 Hmm. And you needed $5500 for the first printing of chapter 19:44 one. 19:46 We had (unclear) so we were able to print the first 10,000 copies 19:49 of chapter one and they were actually still on the press in 19:54 Collegedale, Tennessee between the press and the three knife 19:59 trimmer and someone called and wanted to order 16,000 copies. 20:03 Well you didn't have enough to supply their... 20:06 We thought 10,000 was a lot. 20:09 Yeah so then God just grew this miraculously. I know you've got 20:13 a video. Do you want to go to this video now? Talking about 20:16 The Great Controversy Magazine. Set this video up for us. What 20:18 are we getting ready to see? 20:20 Yeah, why don't you tell Josh? 20:26 Yes, that video was made even before we printed anything. 20:32 The original one. But there was something there that we have 20:38 you know we did not realize that it was something that would 20:48 happen. And there's a portion that zooms out from where it was 20:57 actually made in the place and then it zooms out and then it 21:02 shows the globe which we did not even know that this magazine 21:08 project will reach the United States. And actually, let's just 21:11 look at the video and see the vision there. 21:16 Okay, very good. All right, let's go to that video roll 21:18 right now. 21:20 Clock ticking 21:30 ♪ ♪ 24:44 Amen. Thank you. It's good to see that video. I know others 24:46 enjoy watching it too because it gives a good overview of this 24:50 project. And I guess I'm struck by what both of you emphasize 24:53 is that your vision was smaller than what God is growing this to 24:58 And so what did that lead you to think Josh when you realized 25:02 what we're tapping in the Philippines has grown beyond 25:05 what you began. 25:09 It was just somewhat overwhelming I mean, I fell down on my knees 25:14 thanking God for what He's doing and what He has done. At first 25:20 when this project started I was not even very sure that this is 25:25 what the Lord is leading me to do but He's the one 25:32 who confirmed it. Like he's the one who showed that 25:36 this is what he wants sometimes even when I'm doing the layout 25:41 I will fall asleep. Then when I was like half awake, half asleep 25:46 I will somehow have a dream of what layout to do. And I'll wake 25:52 up and then do it and it's just like a journey of relying on God 25:58 And this is something that I've learned along the way. In this 26:04 Great Controversy it's in the book. It says we are not safe 26:09 a day or an hour without prayer. And this is also something that 26:12 fills us with joy. We are abiding in Jesus. The Ministry 26:19 is actually a journey with Him. And this is something that the 26:23 book actually emphasizes. This is a story of our walk with 26:26 Jesus from the past to present and the future. 26:31 (Amen) We've got these magazines here which they look great 26:34 inside and out but they're not a whole lot of use sitting in a 26:38 box somewhere. So how do these get out to people? 26:43 So here in the United States we print these as well and so if 26:50 someone wants to receive one copy each month in the mail they 26:53 can go to GCmagazine.org and subscribe to get the whole 26:58 series one month after the next. But if you're a church or an 27:03 organization and you want to order a mass amount of the 27:09 Scripture a Safeguard, this chapter we selected as best for 27:13 mass distribution because it's almost like an entering wedge 27:15 for the whole series. People are attracted to the fact that the 27:20 scriptures are the only thing that they can base their life on 27:22 And so you can distribute this chapter just like you would the 27:27 full book or you could even mail it to a zip code and then if 27:31 people like it they can look on the back and subscribe and get 27:34 the full series just like a regular magazine subscription. 27:38 You know there are people who might say I read the Bible, 27:41 that's what I read and so this chapter here you know let's 27:46 people know that this doesn't replace the Bible but it is a 27:48 companion to explaining what the Bible teaches. 27:52 It encourages people to go to the scriptures for hope. 27:55 You know so you just said something here in talking about 27:57 how to get these magazines. So you said someone could subscribe 28:00 to these. Right? So they would get one every week (One a month) 28:05 Okay, each chapter is right. One... 28:09 Starting with Chapter One and going through the series. 28:11 Okay, so then what about being able to send it to somebody else? 28:14 Do you let, I mean, can you subscribe for somebody else like 28:18 say, my neighbor or my friend or family member. 28:19 You can subscribe right on their website for one person okay, but 28:23 if you want to subscribe all your friends or all of your 28:26 Bible study contacts in your Church, you can just email us a 28:29 spreadsheet of all the names and addresses. 28:31 And people might be wondering how much is that going to cost I 28:34 mean to have this subscription mailed to my neighbors or a 28:36 family member. 28:37 Yeah, that's a good question. 28:39 Whether you just subscribe one person or order a thousand 28:41 copies of this chapter it's all on a donation basis. So for 28:45 subscriptions we suggest $5 a month or if you want to order 28:47 mass quantities of this chapter you can call us for pricing. 28:51 For a suggested donation. 28:53 You know Daniel I'm thinking of this. This is such a pretty easy 28:56 way you know because some people may not be able to go outdoor 28:59 to door or their schedule's really busy or other reasons 29:03 why they may not be able to go out but you can actually still 29:06 pass out The Great Controversy by just reaching out to Daniel 29:10 12:3. Right? Am I correct on that or you can go to 29:13 GCmagazine.org. That's one of the websites. I mean 29:15 that's pretty straight 29:16 forward. I'm thinking like there's really no excuse to... 29:21 That $5 a month you know that's just a suggestion. I really 29:25 support this ministry. They can be $10 a month or any way to 29:29 support this ministry. 29:30 And you know we don't want them to have an excuse so they can do 29:34 less. Any amount is fine. 29:37 No that's great. So do you have any stories before we talk about 29:40 Daniel 12:3 the other mission you're involved with. Are there 29:42 any stories for the magazine going out that just like wow 29:45 this is absolutely incredible what the Lord is doing. Anything 29:48 come to mind. I know I'm sure there are lots. Josh or Eric 29:53 Anything come to mind? Go ahead. 29:56 My family went door to door with this recently and it's just 30:00 great to be exposed to the public and to share God's word. 30:03 So we've done a lot of door-to door work over the years and I 30:09 mean there's lots of stories. 30:10 And what are the people's response when like you have one 30:12 of these magazines? What's the response? 30:13 I think people are a lot more ready to receive this than a 30:17 full book. Because when you share the full book people are 30:20 often just like oh I'm not a big reader. And they'll just give it 30:23 back even if you're giving it away for free. So I think this 30:27 is much easier to get your mind around and it's interesting. 30:30 And I notice for those who really don't like reading there 30:35 are some QR codes in here that lead to other materials as well 30:37 right? 30:38 Right. There are QR codes so you can listen to it being narrated 30:42 or you can watch videos about a chapter. 30:44 Okay. Because there are people who say I don't read anything. 30:47 Yeah we just want to encourage you at home because as you know 30:53 3ABN is all about evangelism. And to us, this is an incredible 30:57 opportunity for you to get involved in evangelism. You know 31:00 many of you like we just mentioned a couple of minutes 31:02 ago very busy or maybe you're not able to get out much. You're 31:05 still able to pass out The Great Controversy by subscribing for 31:08 your neighbors and I love that idea that if it's a whole group 31:10 you said even a zip code for like that is that right or could 31:13 it be any of them. Could you do a subscription for like I don't 31:18 know say your town. Could you do that for your entire town? 31:21 I think that you could do that but we really suggest the mass 31:24 distribution of this chapter so you can't order a mass amount of 31:29 chapter three but you can order a mass amount of certain 31:32 chapters. 31:33 But it's perfect because once they get that then that actually 31:35 provides the opportunity for someone to say hey I want more. 31:37 Right? And then they can then get hold of this. 31:40 Multiple voices. Oh for sure. 31:44 I just want to emphasize that this chapter here really does 31:48 say, search the scriptures. It leads people to the Bible and to 31:51 Jesus. 31:52 Yes, I would agree. Yes tell us a little bit more about Daniel 31:55 Twelve-Three because I know that The Great Controversy Magazine 31:59 project, that's one but you also do a lot more. 32:01 We came together as a group of six friends to do soul-winning. 32:06 And our group is named after the Bible verse in Daniel 12:3 which 32:13 says: And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness 32:15 of the firmament and they that turn many to righteousness as 32:18 the stars forever and ever. So we knew that we didn't qualify 32:22 for the first clause of that verse because none of us were 32:25 wise, but we saw the second phrase was more open-ended and 32:31 so there are many ways to turn people to righteousness. And so 32:36 as a team, we've seen novel problems in cultures and we've 32:41 tried to make solutions for cultures. So we started off by 32:48 hiring someone in Ethiopia and then another person and we've 32:51 grown. Basically for cultures that love to read we try to 32:55 produce publications. But for cultures that don't like to read 32:59 like certain cultures in Guatemala for example we try 33:05 to have audio projects. And so it's just great to see people 33:10 getting God's word even if it comes in a form other than I 33:14 might personally like it myself. 33:15 So you're saying audio projects like you said for Guatemala. 33:19 What does that mean, what does that look like? 33:20 (We...) Did you record like a podcast? 33:26 We basically have workers working in partnership with an 33:30 Adventist radio station and so they're recording summaries of 33:33 Patriarchs and Prophets and then they'll progress through the 33:36 Conflict series. So the recordings are short but they're 33:43 shared on the radio multiple times and then those recordings 33:45 are also converted into videos that are shared on social media 33:48 and all the media will end up on a website for that language but 33:52 not just one language in Guatemala. We're starting a 33:54 second language in Guatemala and we're starting other projects as 33:57 well. 33:59 So how did you pick Guatemala? How did you get connected to 34:01 ministering there? 34:03 My wife and I actually sold everything several years ago and 34:07 moved to Guatemala and lived there for two-and-a-half years. 34:09 among the Kechi-Mayan people and so we have a big heart for 34:15 that culture. In fact, we had to leave quite a lot actually and 34:20 they were like our neighbors. So we actually still have 34:26 projects in Guatemala, actually three separate projects in 34:29 Guatemala today. 34:30 Wow, praise the Lord. You mentioned about Ethiopia. Tell 34:34 us about that project that Daniel 12:3 is involved with. 34:36 Okay. Well let me tell you one before I forget it. So before we 34:42 started Daniel 12:3 I had this experience that I think was the 34:46 catalyst that God used to help us get started. It was someone 34:51 that reached out to me on Facebook from Kenya. And he was 34:54 a pastor. I thought he was an Adventist pastor and I asked him 34:59 you know why did you befriend me because a lot of times people 35:02 will befriend you for various reasons. And so he described 35:08 that he was a pastor and when I saw that he wasn't a Seventh-day 35:12 Adventist I asked him about the seventh-day Sabbath. And he said 35:18 basically, I'm very interested in the Sabbath. And I didn't have 35:21 time to study the Bible with him or minister to him but just with 35:25 a small amount of prompting he switched his congregation over 35:28 to keep the seventh-day Sabbath. And so a couple months 35:33 later one Friday evening it was like God flooded my mind with 35:38 ideas about how a team of friends could be formed to 35:41 manage projects around the world And I think God used that 35:46 experience to help me to see how easy it could be to turn people 35:51 to righteousness. 35:53 So then God led you to that experience which then opened up 35:57 your mind to say what other ways can we reach people in places 36:01 you didn't expect. Because I assume you didn't expect Kenya 36:04 at that point. 36:05 No. And that story just highlights how easy it is in 36:12 some cases to turn people to righteousness. They just needed 36:16 a couple of conversations via Facebook messenger and so 36:20 some cultures are extremely open to this. We have a lot of 36:25 workers in Kenya right now and they sometimes, well they always 36:30 actually carry a tract called The Forgotten Day with them. 36:33 And it's a beautiful Bible study It approaches the topic from 36:38 different angles and one team kept track and it said out of 50 36:44 people they met in one day giving this tract as a first 36:47 contact only one person argued with it. And so some cultures 36:52 are ripe for the harvest. 36:53 Right. You know you said we don't fit the clause of being 36:57 wise, but we have an all-wise God who says I'm already doing 37:00 the work before I even lay it upon your heart. 37:04 Mmm Amen. So then tell us about the Ethiopia. Going on Ethiopia 37:08 Okay So Ethiopia has had some of the largest Muslim-to-Adventist 37:13 baptisms and conversions and that's a whole story in itself. 37:17 But they also have a really terrible civil war going on in 37:23 Tagi region. And so when I heard that I was very motivated to try 37:28 to reach people in Ethiopia and that was right after we had 37:32 started the Daniel 12:3 team. And one evening I told God I 37:36 want to focus on Ethiopia. I didn't even tell my wife. I went 37:42 to sleep. The next day on my lunch break my phone rang...no 37:45 let me tell you this...is that I didn't know anyone in Ethiopia 37:48 But my phone rang on my lunch break and it was someone from 37:53 Ethiopia. (Oh my!) They had called through Facebook which I 37:58 never get calls through Facebook But I said I am so glad to hear 38:03 you. From that one contact, now we have lots of contacts in 38:07 Ethiopia. So we just love networking and the more people 38:12 we know in a country the better connected we are obviously and 38:15 the more oversight we have with our projects that we have going 38:21 there. 38:22 So what kind of work is going on in Ethiopia that Daniel 12:3 is 38:25 supporting. 38:27 We only have one worker currently in Ethiopia. We used 38:30 to have two and we're actually going to be moving workers from 38:35 Kenya to Ethiopia because it's so easy to find great workers in 38:37 Kenya. So they're going to be actually pioneering the work in 38:45 Ethiopia along with ministry partners and the one worker that 38:47 we have there. 38:49 So Daniel 12:3 is not just a ministry in a building here in 38:51 the United States. It's connected to people around the 38:55 world. 38:56 Right. In fact, we have no building. In fact, our assets 39:00 are human beings. And I'm the only one of the staff of 39:03 Daniel 12:3 that lives in the United States. As far as a 39:07 supported worker. 39:09 So you have I can tell a real passion for publishing work 39:12 Right? Because you're talking about workers going out in Kenya 39:14 you're talking about...is it tracts similar to these or 39:17 different booklets that being distributed the same in Ethiopia 39:20 Is that right, it's more tracts and booklets. 39:22 We do a lot in Kenya with publishing. They're not exactly 39:26 like this in that they're not full color and glossy. But we 39:32 publish or buy a couple different tracts currently in 39:35 Kenya. 39:36 Okay. Before we move on because I know the other one you're 39:38 working on in Haiti. But tell us a little bit about publishing, 39:42 Josh and you Eric, because you know a lot of times Daniel we 39:46 talk about you know technology and how things are progressing. 39:49 No one's going to read anymore. Why is the focus you know on 39:51 printing something. Well there's still something really powerful 39:54 about the printed word. So Josh comment on that aspect. Maybe 39:57 you too Eric. 39:59 All right. I have this you know when I look at books I can smell 40:06 a video but I can smell a book Know what I mean? 40:10 So when we receive 40:15 something that's tangible it's something that you know it's 40:21 different. Videos can pass you know. All videos can also pass 40:26 but a book does more than just that. Even when the preacher is 40:31 dead the book can speak. And this is something amazing that 40:36 I've realized. Media is a very powerful tool (it is) but we 40:45 should never forget the power of a book that has become...You 40:50 know the Bible is a book, right? So I believe that the printed 40:58 ministry is going to stay and along with that like exactly 41:05 what we're doing now people can see, can hear, and then after the 41:09 program they can of course pick up something for them to read 41:13 and as long as that stays in their home I believe an angel 41:18 stays also there to shine the light of heaven to whoever picks 41:23 up that book. 41:24 Yes, Amen. Yes, I agree. Where are you Eric, power of the 41:28 printed page. 41:30 Here's a quote I love. It says: If there's one work more 41:32 important than another it is that of getting our publications 41:35 before the public thus leading them the search the scriptures 41:38 So it's so easy to share something physical. It's easier 41:43 than sharing a link. Just hand it to them. And so the printed 41:47 page is powerful but like I said we try to focus on whatever is 41:52 the best way to reach a certain culture. 41:54 You know there's a story that 3ABN has some tracts and someone 41:58 actually...it was handed out and someone actually threw it in the 42:00 trash. They didn't appreciate it they threw it in the trash and 42:03 the garbage man was taking the trash and he was dumping it into 42:05 the garbage truck and the booklet fell out and didn't make 42:08 it into the garbage truck and it landed on the pavement and the 42:12 garbage man said, Boy I hate to see a book like this being 42:14 thrown out let me just...So he just put it in his pocket and 42:18 took it home and it converted him. It changed his life. He 42:21 found truth. So the printed word on the way to the garbage truck 42:23 changed somebody's life because the garbage man picked it up. 42:26 So there's power in the printed page. 42:27 That's right. And that printed page, it works when the 42:31 electricity is out and the Wi-Fi is down and when other things 42:35 fall apart get a book. (Amen) 42:37 Let's talk about Haiti because time's getting away from us so 42:39 tell us about Haiti and the projects going on there. 42:41 Okay, so we're already planning to do an audio project for Haiti 42:45 In other words, creating audio summaries of great books and 42:49 getting other audio in French and Creole because Haiti really 42:52 speaks two languages. And we really didn't understand how 42:58 desperate a situation was in Haiti so when I heard back from 43:01 an American missionary in Haiti about how bad it was we kind of 43:05 moved into high gear. And so you'll see more in a video in a 43:09 minute but we basically got a website ready to go in just it 43:13 seemed like hours and now we have content in Creole and 43:17 French on the website and I'll tell you a little bit more after 43:19 the video. 43:20 Okay, all right so that's a good setup for this video. Let's go 43:22 to that right now. 43:26 ♪ ♪ 43:42 Imagine Haitians used to be 70 percent Catholic, 30 percent 43:49 protestant and a hundred percent voodoo. Now we _. 43:56 ♪ ♪ 44:04 The situation looks hopeless. 44:05 The country appears to be at it's darkest moment. 44:10 God loves Haiti and right now could be the best time ever to 44:14 share Jesus with them. This is why the Daniel Twelve-Three 44:20 team was inspired to create The Hope for Haiti Media Project 44:22 Literacy rates are very low in Haiti and so we have put the 44:28 most hopeful Christ-filled media in French and Creole on a 44:33 website for free download. Anyone in Haiti will be able to 44:36 easily download these files to their devices for sharing... 44:44 Multiple voices...on the ground in Haiti will distribute 44:47 business cards with a Bible promise and a URL of the website 44:51 We already had an audio project on the website in Haiti but this 44:58 is how it picked up speed. We reached our team with the 45:02 missionary in Haiti on July 12th 45:04 ♪ ♪ 46:26 Voice in foreign language. 46:40 Men feel their need of divine help. Never does our merciful 46:45 God turn from a soul that in sincerity seeks him for help. 46:48 God has amazed us and pushed us forward. Join our team today 46:57 as we seek to turn many to righteousness 47:03 ♪ ♪ 47:10 Wow. As you're watching that it's very obvious that God 47:14 brought this project together really quickly. And what is it 47:17 doing there in Haiti? What fruit is it producing? 47:20 We just printed 60,000, well 50,000 business cards and 10,000 47:27 flyers and we got about half of those cards to Haiti in a 47:31 suitcase. And so we're going to have two people on the ground 47:33 distributing those to people in Haiti. In fact, it's so 47:37 dangerous in Port 47:38 Au Prince right now, which is the capital of Haiti, that even 47:43 locals can't just walk around freely on the streets without 47:47 fear of being kidnapped or killed or something and so we're 47:50 going to probably try to have them passed out at bus stations 47:55 where people are en route to the capitol. That way our workers 47:58 don't have to go in the danger zone. 48:01 You know what I'm impressed with is really just to make yourself 48:05 available for the Lord and say God, I'm a willing vessel. I want 48:10 to do something for you. I want to spread the good news, right? 48:13 Daniel, do you? Yeah wherever I can and God will use you. You 48:17 know even praying for divine appointments in your day. God 48:21 I've got some tracts here with me. I've got something I want to 48:22 share and just say God, please bring them across my path. You 48:27 may say Oh I'm shy I can't do that. Well God can use you. 48:29 Don't worry about that. God's the one that gives you the power 48:31 Don't be afraid to share the Good News of the gospel. 48:34 You got one other project. What's that all about? 48:37 The Gospel Medical Missionary Team. 48:40 Right so about 100 years ago there was a vision for creating 48:46 a new breed of evangelism where teams would enter the cities, 48:50 using health as an entering wedge. And it wouldn't be just 48:55 one worker. It would be a team of several people with different 48:58 talents. It could be an evangelist, Bible workers, 49:02 nurses, cook. And they basically did a half day of school, 49:09 classes learning about how to reach people better and then in 49:12 the afternoon they did in-home treatments and Bible studies. 49:16 And in the evening they did public lectures starting with 49:20 health and then transitioning to evangelism. And so like I said 49:24 a hundred years ago they did it in the cities in America, John 49:29 Tindell and some others and so these are some quotes and 49:31 historical documents about how it was so successful a hundred 49:35 years ago. And if you're interested you can contact us 49:37 We'll be happy to mail you one of these pamphlets. 49:41 It says in the title, God's Final Method for Reaching the 49:44 Cities. (Right) 49:46 So then someone could take that read that study and implement it 49:48 in their community. Is that the goal? Something along those 49:52 lines of the health message. 49:54 They can definitely do this. We would like to...we are very 49:59 compelled to do one of these teams ourself and we're praying 50:01 every day for it. So we could use help for this if anyone is 50:06 inspired they can contact us to receive the booklet. 50:09 Good. The publishing is great but then the health ministry 50:13 is really something that you care about as well. 50:17 Absolutely it's the right arm that opens the doors to reach 50:20 people. 50:21 Amen. You kind of meet their physical need and then they're 50:24 open to the spiritual aspect as well. (To hearing) Yeah to 50:27 hearing. That's right. So we're getting ready to go to an 50:30 address roll contact information We've shared with you a lot of 50:32 things with you today about the Daniel Twelve-Three and all the 50:35 different projects. Of course The Great Controversy Magazine 50:38 project which is just phenomenal I'm very excited about that 50:42 project, how you can subscribe for yourself but not only for 50:45 yourself but for others in your community, your family, your 50:47 friends, your Bible study contacts. It's just a great 50:51 great, to me, project. But Eric before we go to the address roll 50:54 we can get the contact information, what are some of 50:56 your needs right now for Daniel Twelve-Three. Would they be like 50:59 financial support, what would be some of the needs for you? 51:02 To start a team such as John Tindell did. It's not an 51:07 inexpensive project but we feel that it would be worth every 51:09 amount that it could cost. And so if anyone is compelled to 51:15 help with that kind of work, they can contact us. They can 51:19 also help support one of our missionary workers around the 51:22 world... 51:24 So you probably want to see through your tax-deductible 51:27 someone donates they get a tax deductible receipt or if they 51:29 want to just donate and not get anything in return. 51:31 Right. We have a 501C3 ministry partner in California that they 51:36 can send through. 51:38 Okay, perfect. Okay well there are many different ways that you 51:40 can of course support Daniel Twelve-Three. We're going to go 51:44 to a quick break but we'll give you the contact information for 51:46 Daniel Twelve-Three. 51:48 If you would like more information about Daniel 51:51 Twelve-Three, Inc. you can write to them at 9060 Shut In Gap Rd. 51:58 Spring City, TN 37381. That's 9060 Shut In Gap Rd., Spring 52:06 City, TN 37381. You can call (224) 388-2462. You can also 52:17 find them online at GCmagazine.org or 52:22 DanielTwelveThree.org |
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