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00:01 I want to spend my life mending broken people.
00:14 I want to spend my life removing pain. 00:25 Lord, let my words heal a heart that hurts, 00:35 I want to spend my life mending broken people. 00:45 I want to spend my life mending broken people 01:06 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn, I'm JD Quinn 01:08 we welcome you to 3ABN Today 01:11 we are going on an Incredible Journey today. 01:15 We are very excited, let me introduce our special guests 01:20 we have Gary Kent who is the Speaker/Director for 01:25 the Incredible Journey and his lovely wife Robin Kent 01:29 who is the Producer of Incredible Journey Media Ministry. 01:32 These people are from Down Under, Welcome. 01:36 Pleasure to be here, thank you so much. 01:39 Thank you very much, we're delighted. 01:42 We're excited, how long have you all been in the states 01:45 now on this trip? 01:47 On this trip? Three weeks. So you are over your jetlag. 01:50 So...So, we are looking forward to this is the last stop 01:55 on the trip. Your last stop and you get to go home. 01:58 It's always fun to go but it it's even more fun to go home. 02:02 [Laughter] Yes, always good. 02:04 We will be speaking to them about their exciting ministry 02:09 but more than that, their personal story so 02:11 we know you are going to be inspired but we also know 02:15 you like music and we got something to get us going. Yes. 02:19 This is beautiful music and its going to be played on a harp 02:22 and it's Laura Paimiori. 04:15 Thank you Laura that was beautiful. 04:17 Yes, "Be Though My Vision" and He is. 04:19 If you are joining us just a moment late, 04:21 we have Gary and Robin Kent with us today from Australia 04:25 and they have a ministry called The Incredible Journey. 04:30 Any time you have a title like that for a ministry 04:34 you know God has done something already in their lives so 04:38 let's just kind of get to know you. 04:40 Gary, we'll start with you, did you grow up in a 04:43 Christian home? 04:44 I did, I grew up in a missionary home, 04:47 my parents were missionaries for 13 years so we are 04:53 immersed in a desire to share the Good News 04:58 so, yes, that's my heritage, my journey, missionary home. 05:03 When did it become more than just a heritage, when did 05:08 that personal relationship with the Lord actually begin? 05:12 Thirteen years in Africa, after that I returned, 05:17 my family returned to Australia and we went, my sister and I 05:21 went to Avondale College and it was a time of adjustment, 05:26 learning, I wanted to be involved in sharing the gospel 05:30 I did teaching, I did Theology, Seminary work, 05:33 but I still had doubts in my mind and so after two years 05:38 at seminary at college, I decided to take a break. 05:43 Then I traveled the world, particularly Asia 05:46 and was investigating Eastern Religions wanting to be certain 05:51 that I was following truth. Went to Tibet, 05:55 went to the Hindu Shrines of India wanting to make sure 06:01 so it was that experience that confirmed in my own 06:07 experience, my mind that Jesus is the Messiah and He became 06:13 King of my life and it's never been the same. 06:16 I am so grateful to Jesus and all that He's done for me 06:21 and I want to share that Good News with as many people 06:24 as I can. Amen and Amen! 06:26 That's a beautiful story and Robin, how about you? 06:30 Yes, Shelley, I was also born into a missionary home 06:35 my parents left Australia by boat back then 06:38 and traveled to India and then they caught the train 06:41 up into the very northern part of India in the foothills 06:44 of the Himalayas where it borders Tibet, Nepal, 06:49 and Bhutan and they ran a Christian Clinic there for years. 06:56 In fact, I was born there. Really, how interesting. 06:59 So, it's rather unusual for two missionary kids 07:04 to be married to one another, you both grew up in I'm assuming 07:09 a Seventh-day-Adventist Christian homes. 07:11 How did you meet? 07:13 We met at Avondale, I came back from Africa 07:17 Robin had been studying back in Australia 07:20 and we both went there to learn to serve the Lord better. 07:26 So Avondale is a Seventh-day- Adventist University 07:30 in Australia. 07:31 Alright, you are the Speaker/ Director for the 07:35 Incredible Journey, you are the Producer. 07:38 Let's talk about what your roles are, what you are doing... 07:44 Tell us a little about your ministry and your 07:46 day-to-day life? 07:47 Well, we work together on producing television programs 07:52 that are designed to reach a secular audience. 07:56 I love it. Our country, Australia and it's a reflection 08:02 what is happening in the Western world is fast losing 08:05 its Christianity, its Christian heritage. 08:08 In the last...just to give you an idea what's happening 08:11 down under, in the last 10, 15 years the percentage of 08:16 Christians living in Australia or practicing in Australia 08:21 has reduced 20% from 60% down to below 40%. 08:28 So, if this trend continues within the next 20 years 08:33 there will be hardly any Christians left in Australia. 08:37 And so Robin and I feel a burden coming from 08:40 Christian homes, missionary homes I mentioned that we are 08:45 MK's, missionary kids, we're also PK's Pastor's kids. 08:50 And so we've carried on our family heritage, a desire 08:56 to want to share the good news of Jesus and in particular 08:59 we want to reach the secular audience, the fast-growing 09:04 secular audience in our country. The percentage of people 09:08 who no longer identify as Christians, 09:11 no longer recognize Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. 09:14 So that's what we do, we produce television programs 09:19 specifically designed to reach people who would normally 09:23 never attend a church service or listen to a church sermon 09:27 we've got to reach those people. 09:29 There are more and more of them around, 09:30 not just increasing in Australia but throughout Europe 09:34 and I believe it's happening right here in America as well. 09:37 No doubt. No Doubt. 09:39 Tell us what you studied in Avondale, 09:42 you had several degrees, it's interesting? 09:44 Well, I've studied teaching, also, this is my 09:49 primary focus is Theology, the Bible. 09:52 I've had a particular interest in the field of Archeology 09:56 particularly Biblical Archeology and so after completing 10:02 my Bachelor of Arts in Theology I then studied further 10:06 and traveled to America here and then to the Middle East, 10:09 Israel, Jordan, Egypt, and studied Biblical Archeology 10:14 where the Bible happened. 10:16 Where all those stories came from and I'm particularly 10:19 interested in the evidence that demonstrates that the 10:24 Bible is trustworthy. 10:26 And that Jesus is more than just a fairy tale. 10:31 Correct, correct. You know it's interesting when we 10:34 talk about secular, I would say...United States is also 10:39 becoming more secular but in Australia there are people 10:43 who do think of Jesus as... They put Him in the same 10:47 category as Santa Clause, I mean they really have no 10:53 understanding of Him. 10:55 So you do like docu-dramas... Do you write the scripts 10:58 I assume, Gary? Robin and I write the scripts, we also have 11:02 some assistants, some fellow writers that work with us 11:06 on producing the scripts because we try to do at least 11:10 50 new programs every year. 11:13 Wow. And so, and that's just part of our responsibility 11:17 These are 1/2 hour television docu-dramas, yes. 11:21 Love it. So it means writing A lot of scriptwriting. 11:24 A lot of work. We do most of it ourselves, we get help as well. 11:28 What is your primary responsibility? 11:32 Technically the producer which means, I organize to make it 11:37 happen. So all the logistics involved in getting the 11:41 scripts ready, doing the research, 11:43 where are we going to go to film these scripts, 11:47 how are we going to get there, where are we going to stay, 11:50 what permissions do we need, and then through to 11:55 how are we going to illustrate this program? 11:57 It's beautiful, we loved working together as a couple 12:02 and it's beautiful to see that you all are as well. 12:05 So, the Incredible Journey is a faith-based ministry 12:11 and it is a supporting ministry of the Seventh-day-Adventist 12:14 Church. Are you a 501 C3 non-profit? Yes, we are. 12:19 Yes. I didn't know if that turn if it waits Down Under but... 12:23 So, what projects are you currently involved with? 12:30 Well, we've come to America because great stories 12:35 happened here. And we traveled the world looking for stories 12:41 and through those stories, we introduce people to Jesus. 12:45 The Bible and to Jesus and so we're here filming a new series 12:51 of programs. In the past we've filmed programs on 12:55 Abraham Lincoln, the assignation of JFK, we've interviewed 13:01 Dr. Ben Carson, we've done a number of wonderful 13:05 programs here based on fabulous American stories. 13:10 So, we are back doing some more, we were stopped during Covid 13:15 we couldn't film in America during Covid so we're back here 13:19 filming stories and we found some marvelous stories 13:23 that we have just filmed, beautiful stories. 13:26 We've done Martin Luther King Jr. 13:29 We've done the Tuskegee Airman, we've done George Washington 13:34 Carver and just great stories, real American stories. 13:39 And Desmond Doss. Desmond Doss is another one 13:41 that we've done, yes. 13:43 That's beautiful and I think you have...we have a video clip 13:48 of some of these stories that they are putting together 13:52 and you can see the quality of their production. 14:07 It was in this seat that Abraham Lincoln was fatally shot 14:11 over 150 years ago in Ford's Theater Washington DC. 14:28 This is the window in the Texas School Depository 14:32 that changed history in a dramatic terrible way. 14:36 You get a clear view from here down to Elm Street in the 14:40 city of Dallas. Three, two, one, zero, blastoff 14:45 No one on planet earth was there to see humanities greatest 14:50 achievement. 14:52 That's because it didn't happen on planet Earth, 14:55 it happened on the moon, it was only seen through grainy 14:59 television images beamed across the distance of almost 400,00 km 15:05 when Neil Armstrong planted the first human step 15:09 on the lunar surface. 15:11 It began on the 21 of July, 1944. Allied Soldiers landing here 15:18 at Asan Beach on the Island of Guam. 15:21 They had to take it back from the Japanese soldiers 15:24 firing with machine guns and artillery. 15:27 And yet one soldier would make a name for himself by 15:31 saving lives. He refused to bear arms or carry a weapon 15:35 in the midst of constant enemy fire. He was unwilling to 15:40 take a life or even so much as touch a weapon. 15:43 He did however say that he would be proud to serve 15:47 his country as a medic, if they would let him. 15:50 And we starting putting together an amazing team of incredibly 15:54 talented people and it was an incredible, incredible 15:59 operation. We ran out of blood near the end of the operation 16:04 that put aside 50 units of blood, we ran out of blood 16:07 people on the team were volunteering their blood 16:10 they were saying I'll lay down, take my blood you know. 16:14 Barry Black is a force for integrity, goodness, reason, 16:18 and compassion along the corridors of power on 16:22 Capitol Hill. Let's go and meet him. Captain Black thank you 16:27 for your invitation to the Capitol Building and to meet 16:32 in your office, it's a pleasure to have you on our program today. 16:35 I'm delighted to be with you Gary. 16:37 We're looking at this big issue of depression. Yes. 16:41 Today we want to look at the solutions. Yes. 16:45 That's the most exciting part of this illness is that 16:49 there is a solution, there is a way out and I...one of the 16:54 most rewarding things that I do is put on treatment programs 16:59 for those who have previously thought that there was no way out. 17:05 So what you're seeing there is little snippets of their 17:09 various Docu-Dramas kind of put in together edited 17:13 into one role. And it's exciting to see that you're doing people 17:18 like Ben Carson who is the doctor that most people know and 17:23 he's been very heavily involved in politics but that 17:26 you're getting these stories that are so... 17:29 Tell me this, you're telling the story you're trying to reach a 17:35 secular audience, so how do you weave in the story of Jesus 17:41 into these stories? 17:43 Well of course the story of Jesus is the greatest story 17:45 ever told and it's the story that brings hope, 17:51 that brings peace, that brings what we are really all 17:55 searching for in our lives and so there's always a way 18:00 to bring Jesus into any person's story. 18:03 Anyone's life story is a place for Jesus. 18:07 And when you think about it, we are all searching 18:12 we're on a pilgrimage, we're on an Incredible Journey 18:15 and although a lot of secular people don't realize it 18:21 they too are searching to fill the emptiness in their lives. 18:27 As the theologians sometimes say there is a God-shaped hole 18:33 in every life. 18:35 Because God has put eternity Ecclesiastes tells us 18:39 God has put eternity into everyone's heart. 18:42 And so we are all on that search and so that story 18:47 can be woven into any story and that's what we do 18:50 because we weave the story of Jesus into all these programs 18:56 that we've had a quick look at the story of Jesus is there. 19:00 I love it, I love it. So, I'm going to call on you Robin. 19:03 The Incredible Journey, what a title, 19:07 tell us how you came up with this title. 19:09 Well, the title was actually Gary's idea. 19:13 So, he will tell us how it started from when 19:18 he was a child in Africa. 19:20 When we left Africa we decided as a family that instead of 19:26 flying home, we would drive home. 19:28 Which isn't easy when you are in Africa trying to get to 19:32 Australia, so instead of heading south we bought a good old 19:36 American Chevy truck, we put a camper van on the back 19:40 and we drove north in the opposite direction to home. 19:44 We drove right through Africa through the steamy jungles of 19:47 Equatorial Africa through the Sahara Desert, 19:51 this was a journey of a lifetime, an incredible journey. 19:56 When we got through Africa we made our way to London 20:00 and then we headed back south or southeast to India 20:07 all in this old Chevy truck and it was an incredible journey. 20:12 And as we made that journey one of the books that I read 20:15 was one of the most popular ever published in the English 20:18 or written in English language. 20:20 It was written while in prison by a prisoner by the name of 20:24 John Bunyan and sometime later after reading that book. 20:29 Pilgrim's Progress, Pilgrim's Progress, and that is the story 20:34 of each one of us, we are on a pilgrim's journey, 20:39 an incredible journey from here to eternity. 20:43 So when we started producing television programs 20:46 one of the first we did was at Bedford in the prison 20:50 the story of John Bunyan. 20:53 Wonderful. And I realized then hey, that's the story of 20:56 all of us so we decided to call the ministry 20:59 named after Pilgrim's Progress, An Incredible Journey 21:04 that we're all on from here to eternity. 21:07 Amen and amen! Hence the name Incredible Journey. 21:10 I love it, I love it. You know I think about you as PK's 21:16 missionary MK's, missionary kids and pastor's kids. 21:21 Your father's probably put up tents and used all 21:26 different things. How did you know you were going to 21:29 come to media? You've preached regular campaigns but what 21:33 made you decide on media? 21:35 Well we'd both grown up in homes that were dedicated 21:41 to living and sharing the gospel. 21:44 My grandfather was a church planter so he traveled to 21:49 regions of Australia, some of Australia's big regional centers 21:53 where there was not a Seventh-day-Adventist Christian 21:57 in sight and he would go down town, find an open place 22:02 in a park and he would pitch a massive tent and then he would 22:06 advertise and invite people to come and hear him preach 22:10 and so he was the sawdust trail. 22:12 My father followed in his footsteps but instead of 22:16 pitching a tent, he would hire the biggest theaters in town 22:22 in the city or large sporting stadiums and invite people 22:26 to hear the gospel. 22:28 I wanted to do something similar but we soon discovered that 22:33 it is becoming more and more difficult to attract people 22:38 to a venue. So instead of bringing them to us 22:43 we decided to go to them. 22:44 Yeah. And one of the most effective ways to do that 22:48 is through the media. 22:49 So we every week, we go right into people's homes while 22:55 they're sitting in their lounge chair watching a television 22:58 screen or their computer screen or their phone screen 23:01 and we share the gospel with them right in their home 23:05 where they are. 23:06 Amen! That's amazing. I think they call them pioneers. 23:10 And your grandfather was a pioneer? Correct. 23:14 Your father was a pioneer. Yes. 23:16 You're a pioneer. We use a different medium, 23:19 but sharing the same message. Amen. And media is a powerful 23:24 way to reach the masses, its one of the most effective ways 23:27 to do that. And everybody loves to go on location and see 23:33 A docudrama, it's something that brings the story to life. 23:37 So, by the way, you can watch The Incredible Journey 23:42 on 3ABN, they air on our Parent Network as well as our 23:47 International Network and if it's not on the schedule 23:51 on an hour that is convenient to you, just download the 3ABN+ 23:58 app, that's free and then you can watch on demand. 24:02 And you can watch it on YouTube as well or on the website. 24:06 And your website is: The Incredible Journey, TIJ.tv. 24:12 That's wonderful. So you are not only doing programs 24:17 in the United States obviously, tell us about some of the 24:21 programs that you are really putting your architectural 24:26 knowledge into place. 24:28 Well, as we say, we go to... we literally go to the 24:33 ends of the earth to follow up good stories that we can use 24:38 to share the gospel. So we filmed on seven continents 24:42 and we filmed in some wonderful places. 24:44 We recently filmed a program on the story of Masada in Israel. 24:49 Inspiring stories and maybe that's a clip we can 24:53 have a look at and see how that program looks, 24:57 what it feels like and what it was like filming that program 25:02 right on location on Masada. Absolutely. Let's roll that. 25:12 Judea was ruled by Rome 2,000 years ago in the time of 25:16 Jesus of Nazareth. Even then the people were chafing 25:20 under Roman rule, their occasional small-scale rebellions 25:24 but they were quickly crashed. 25:26 In AD 66 however, the Jewish revolt fled into a full-scale war 25:33 that raged for four years until the Roman General Titus 25:37 conquered Jerusalem, destroyed the sacred temple and expelled 25:42 most of the survivors from the country. 25:48 One outpost alone held out against the Romans 25:52 it was the Fortress of Masada built high above the Dead Sea 25:57 upon a barren mountainous plateau. 26:00 One of the most heroic incredible stories of all history 26:05 was played out here when a small group of Jewish Zealots 26:10 defied the power of Rome. 26:12 It's a story that carries a special message for us today. 26:22 Well, we've been to Masada on a number of occasions, 26:25 it is an incredible story. I look forward to seeing that, 26:28 though. So tell us about some of the others that you are 26:32 doing. Well we filmed programs in England on John Wesley, 26:36 on Martin Luther, in Germany, we've filmed throughout the 26:41 Middle East, we filmed stories as I mentioned to you I love 26:43 archeology and so we filmed stories on the Dead Sea Scrolls 26:48 we filmed another on the discovery of the Rosetta Stone. 26:52 The Wonders of Egypt, we find that these are people who are 26:56 interested in today. And so we use these themes, these stories, 27:02 to lead people to Jesus. 27:05 And you know, I love the stories that you're talking about 27:08 on the Reformation because nowadays most people have no 27:13 idea of what a Protestant really is. It's amazing as we lose 27:19 sight of History, we forget many of us are Protestants 27:24 who are watching...I'm a Protestant, you're a Protestant, 27:27 we're all Protestants here. But what are we protesting? 27:31 And that's the beauty of bringing history back again in, 27:34 it's so that people can understand what their doing 27:39 and prepare themselves for the future. 27:41 And also what's important is that most people are getting 27:44 where they don't want to read, either they don't have the time 27:47 to read or they're not interested and so it would... 27:50 We used to call it cliff notes, I don't know what they use today 27:53 but here we can actually go to video and you 'all have done 27:56 the major work and you're hitting the major points. 27:59 JD we live in a visual world and people want to see things 28:04 and that's the world we live in today. 28:06 And so we got to meet people where they are and as I say, 28:10 one of the most effective ways to do that is through Media, 28:13 through television, through the internet, and so on. 28:17 That's where people are, that's what they are interested in 28:20 and we've got the greatest story of all to tell 28:24 so let's tell it and let's reach them. Amen and Amen! 28:28 You were saying when we were talking in the Green Room 28:32 this was fascinating to me, that when we talk about 28:36 Australia being a secular society many of them have never 28:41 heard the basic Bible Stories of History. 28:46 So, they don't know who Daniel is, they don't know who 28:49 Abraham...even Moses. Well, tell us about your Bible Stories 28:53 that you're doing? 28:55 So, we've realized that people don't have the Biblical 28:58 foundations that past generations have had, 29:01 fewer people are going to church, they never hear those 29:04 stories and so we have hired some of the biggest 29:09 Hollywood Movie Sets and we've used those sets to tell 29:15 Bible Stories. Amen. And so we've told the story of Joseph, 29:19 the story of Moses, we've told the story of Abraham, 29:24 we're telling the story of Daniel and we are re-enacting 29:28 these Bible Stories on sets that are meaningful to the 29:34 secular mind, to secular people who watch these movies. 29:38 And so for us, it's been a privilege to tell Bible Stories 29:43 often in the land where they actually took place. 29:47 But you go beyond just the major character, you're doing 29:51 Bible re-enactments of various things that have happened, 29:55 tell us about that. 29:56 So yes, we tell these Bible Stories, we reenact the 30:00 story Joseph, the story of Moses, the story of Abraham, 30:04 we bring those Bible stories to life and people can 30:09 relate to them as they see them re-enacted in real life. 30:12 Also the Fall of Jerusalem and the...from the Fall of Jerusalem 30:20 to the Reformation, we've done a whole series of those programs 30:23 as well. So, what would a typical length be 30:26 of one of these documentaries? 30:28 One of these stories, so we've just done one on...very recently 30:34 on the Fall of Jerusalem so it's a three-part series 30:37 and it picks up the early church after the Crucifixion 30:42 and Resurrection of Jesus, what happened after that? 30:45 and so we lead into the Fall of Jerusalem, a three-part series. 30:50 Yeah cause a lot of people think it all stopped at 30:53 His Crucifixion you know so I mean there is a History 30:57 and wow, there is a Reformation up there so we jump to the sixth 31:01 1500s or 1600s but what happened all before then? 31:05 Amen! So we tell that story, the Fall of Jerusalem 31:08 how Christianity began to spread throughout the world 31:12 and then how there was a falling away from Bible truth. 31:15 So, we have another series called The Game Changer. 31:20 Constantine the Great and what happened during that period 31:24 of History, how Bible truth was lost and led into the 31:27 Dark Ages and from there, the story of the Reformation 31:32 the Waldesians, John Wycliffe, and then from there to 31:36 John Hus or Jan Hus and Martin Luther, and John Wesley. 31:42 And then we're getting right through to our own period 31:47 of History you know for John Wesley came here to America 31:50 and it was on the ship over to America that he met the 31:55 Moravians and he heard and understood the true gospel 32:01 for the first time, the Good News of Jesus 32:04 became meaningful to him. It happened here 32:07 on the way to America so we are getting down to our 32:11 period of History now. 32:12 And you know for those of you at home who...some of these 32:16 names may not be registering with you. Who was John Hus? 32:20 Who are these people? Who is John Wesley? 32:23 That's why you need to watch The Incredible Journey. 32:27 You can watch it on 3ABN+ or you can go to TIJ.tv and 32:33 see these programs on demand and let History come to life 32:39 because I'll tell you what, we need to know History, 32:43 History does repeat itself and we are beginning to... 32:47 I think we are beginning to see a cycle of History 32:51 repeating itself and that's going to be interesting. 32:54 Shelley, we also need to remember that History really is His story. 33:00 Amen! It's the story of Jesus in some shape or form 33:04 And so we try to...as we are telling these great Historical 33:08 stories, as we are unearthing things in the Middle East and 33:12 the field of Archeology. His story, Jesus' story, 33:17 shines through each time. Amen! 33:20 The theme that keeps coming up and this is what we're 33:23 talking about is when we first started 33:26 we started talking about the Good News of who? Jesus. 33:30 And you keep bringing that up so it makes no difference 33:35 whether we are up here and got Paul or Daniel. 33:38 or we're down here with Martin Luther, we're still talking 33:42 about the Good News and that's where we're going to continue 33:46 to go is that right? 33:48 Absolutely, let me tell you something interesting. 33:50 We did a program on NASA, rockets to the moon and 33:56 people said, how on earth are you going to relate that 33:59 to the story of Jesus? Well, what is interesting 34:03 is in that program which is entitled 34:06 The Book That Went to The Moon, the only book that's ever 34:10 gone to the moon is the Bible. And it went on one of those 34:15 early Apollo Flights and it was the first book that was taken 34:19 to the moon by a group of Christians. 34:21 What a lot of people don't realize is that many of those 34:25 pioneer astronauts were Christians. Amen! 34:28 And when they went to the moon, they wanted to take 34:31 the Bible with them and they did. Amen! Praise God! 34:35 Great story, so even the story of NASA, Space Exploration, 34:40 Rockets to the Moon, the story of Jesus fits in there perfectly. 34:46 Now, I love how multi-faceted your ministry is 34:51 we're talking about Docudramas, Bible re-enactment, Bible Story 34:57 re-enactment, various historical re-enactments but for the people 35:02 of Papua New Guinea who do not read you all have done 35:06 something very special, tell us about that. 35:09 We have a special burden for people who cannot read or write. 35:14 And it's surprising how many people there are on our planet 35:19 today who are unable to read or write even in this modern age. 35:23 So we had to find a way to reach them and so I've got 35:27 one of these special Bibles that are very dear to my heart. 35:32 This is an audio Bible and so we went to PNG, 35:39 Papua New Guinea up into the Highlands where there are 35:44 people who can't read or write and we translated and 35:47 put the Bible in audio form on what we call a God Pod. 35:52 So it's an audio Bible and here in their own language 35:57 the people of New Guinea in Pigeon could listen to 36:02 the Word of God, they couldn't read it but they could hear it. 36:06 We did the same in the Solomons, we translated, we put the Bible 36:11 audio into their own language and put it on one of these 36:16 God-Pods from Mega voice and these 10's of thousands 36:21 of these God-Pods have now been shared with people 36:25 and their villages who cannot read or write. 36:28 We did the same in Africa with some of our partner ministries. 36:32 We took the Word of God to some of the most primitive people 36:38 on earth, the Kalahari Bushmen for example who are now 36:43 able to hear the Good News of Jesus in their mother tongue. 36:48 And what about the Indigenous people of Australia? 36:52 Now that's another group of people who are very dear 36:54 to my heart, people who are struggling in today's 36:59 modern society, some of them, making the adjustments 37:03 from...in some people's understanding the stone age 37:08 to the 21st century in just a few generations and 37:13 that's a big step to take. 37:14 It took us Europeans or those of us who have a 37:18 European heritage, it took us centuries, they've had to do it 37:21 in a very short period of time so we love those people. 37:24 We call them the aboriginal people first Australians, 37:28 Indigenous Australians and we've produced a variety of programs 37:33 that will relate to them, programs called 37:36 Along the Rabbit-Proof Fence, The Girl Who Talked to The Stars, 37:40 these are Indigenous people who found Jesus. 37:44 And we are telling their stories because the Indigenous people 37:49 can relate to those stories. Amen. 37:52 And that's what people want is to have something that 37:55 they can respond to because it it's relevant to their lives. 38:01 Now, tell us how the ministry is affecting people? 38:06 I think you had Chris Rentell somebody that you were going to 38:10 tell his story. 38:11 People often ask us who have been reached by these programs? 38:15 Well, we travel across Australia visiting churches 38:19 virtually every week and every church we go to, new churches 38:24 there is someone who will come up to us and say 38:26 hey, I first heard about Jesus by watching 38:30 The Incredible Journey or The Incredible Journey played 38:33 a part of my own spiritual pilgrimage. 38:37 And very recently we met the most amazing character 38:41 who came to us and said, Gary I watched one of your programs 38:45 at two O'clock on a Sunday morning, couldn't sleep 38:49 was upset, worried, concerned, had no peace in my life 38:54 and I woke up, flipped the television on and there I saw you 38:58 sharing the news of Jesus and it affected me, 39:02 it made a difference to my life. 39:04 And he said I became a Christian, a Seventh-day Adventist 39:07 Christian and he said I've had the most amazing experience. 39:14 He said my daughter was celebrating her, 39:17 I think it was her 30th Birthday and so we decided to go 39:21 parachuting to celebrate and so we drove down to the 39:26 Little Bush Airfield, flew up three kilometers 39:30 into the heavens, the sky and my daughter jumped out first 39:36 we each had an instructor jump with us and so off she jumped 39:42 out of the plane and then it was my turn, 39:45 he said I was very afraid and we jumped out, 39:47 me and the instructor and all went well, it was an exhilarating 39:52 experience until he said, we realize the instructor and I 39:57 that our parachutes weren't opening... 40:01 And so he said, there we were falling three kilometers 40:04 without a parachute. 40:06 And so he said...It was terrifying. 40:09 Tai..you didn't mention it was a terrifying experience 40:13 but he said, in that moment of desperation 40:18 he said I shared with my instructor the story of Jesus. 40:23 He said we had a very short time, I said give your life 40:26 to Jesus no matter what happens everything will be alright then 40:31 as long as we commit our lives to Jesus. 40:35 What happened was as they neared the ground, that instructor 40:40 cushioned the fall of Chris Rantell, now both of them 40:45 were seriously injured, the instructor sadly didn't survive 40:50 the fall but Chris although he was seriously injured 40:54 he was saved by his instructor. 40:57 And so, what a story of sharing the Good News of Jesus 41:03 even in that death fall so we went down to meet Chris 41:09 he shared his story, we made a Doc-a drama, a television program 41:15 based on his story of how the Good News of Jesus 41:20 has made a difference to his life and also made 41:23 a difference to the life of his instructor as they fell 41:27 to the ground. Imagine falling three, that's about a mile 41:30 and a half for Americans, a mile and a half without a 41:35 parachute and surviving it. That's amazing. 41:39 Well! that's amazing. 41:41 And the reality is to go back to The Incredible Journey 41:46 that seed was planted at two O'clock in the morning 41:49 who would ever guess? You know sometimes... 41:53 J.D. what we are finding is that God can speak to our hearts 41:57 any time of the day. Yeah. Amen. 41:59 Even in the wee hours of the morning. 42:01 The thing that is capturing my attention is 42:04 well, let's go back to the missionaries I mean you 'all are 42:07 missionaries and it just really hit me yes you can sit here 42:11 and listen and listen to the stories but then you've got 42:15 a small audio unit that you're actually going to people 42:19 that have never heard the Word before. 42:22 And then you are taking the time being all be it missionaries 42:26 and translating into their language so those seeds 42:30 are being planted and their maybe people lots of places 42:33 that are jumping out of planes that have stories to tell and 42:36 wonder, well why? 42:37 You know, what impresses me sometimes as Christians 42:43 we're preaching to the choir. We get to where we are focusing 42:48 our own membership or preaching to the choir, 42:53 people who already know and what we need to remember 42:58 Matthew 24:14 Jesus said, that this gospel will go into 43:03 every nation around the world and when you are talking about 43:07 people who have never heard the Bible and you're thinking 43:09 of the Indigenous people but we have secular societies 43:15 that are clueless. Many who have never even heard and 43:20 you know we think... You are talking going on in Australia 43:24 but we've had it happen right here in United States 43:27 we interviewed a police officer who was working with 43:32 gang members and he went in and said these kids 43:36 they were 16 to 21, they had never the name of Jesus, 43:43 they thought they evolved from apes and he said as soon as 43:46 he told them the story of creation and that they were 43:49 created in the image of Jesus their attitudes changed. 43:53 So we take things for granted, let me ask you, 43:56 what you've got to clip that, we want to make sure we get in 44:00 that dead men do tell tales. Tell us. 44:04 Well, there's an old English saying "Dead men don't 44:09 tell tales". Well as we have looked at the situation 44:15 in our society, we want to let people know that 44:21 "Dead men do tell tales" because archeologists go to work 44:26 and they dig up the remains of ancient cities, 44:29 ancient civilizations in the Middle East, 44:32 in the lands of the Bible. 44:33 These dead men that were buried thousands of years ago 44:38 are demonstrating the trustworthiness of the Bible. 44:43 Do you know that archeologists have now discovered 50 Bible 44:48 characters can demonstrate that they lived, that they were real 44:52 people, show where they lived and how they lived? 44:55 Fifty Bible characters. So they are unearthing them. 44:59 They are unearthing their skeletal remains, 45:02 They're unearthing their homes, they're unearthing their fields, 45:06 their work implements, their palaces. And so, 45:11 we are producing, God willing, a brand new series of 45:17 television programs that are going to be shown on 45:20 national television right across Australia 45:23 and we hope beyond Australia demonstrating the hysteresis, 45:29 the trustworthiness of the Bible and we are gathering 45:34 the support from some of our leading Christian Archeologists. 45:39 Archeologists professors in their field from 45:42 Andrews University, Southern University, La Sierra University, 45:47 these are men who are well respected in archeological 45:52 circles and we're going to work together to remind people 45:56 that "Dead men do tell tales". 45:59 So, it's a series of archeological based programs 46:03 filmed on location in the lands of the Bible, the lands of the 46:06 Middle East, Egypt, Greece, Turkey, Syria, Israel, 46:12 to show that you can trust the Bible. 46:16 Amen! I think we've got a video clip of that we'd like to show. 46:28 This is the most visited place on earth, 46:32 the Egyptian pyramids of Giza. 46:34 The only one of the seven ancient Wonders of the World 46:38 that still exist today. 46:44 It was here at Rosetta near the mouth of the Nile that one of 46:48 archaeologies greatest discoveries was made 46:52 in fact one of the greatest discoveries in all history. 47:00 Many archeologists are convinced that the treasure found in 47:03 this area is more valuable than all the gold and wealth 47:08 found in the ancient tombs of kings and pharaohs. 47:16 It stands as a silent witness to one of the greatest civilizations 47:21 to have ever existed on planet earth, perched on a mountain 47:25 ribbed some 2,500 meters above sea level. 47:28 The mysterious city of Machu Picchu is no longer occupied, 47:35 it's been empty for nearly a half of a millennium. 48:34 Woo hoo, that's one I want to watch, so this is something 48:37 you are working on now? We're working on that at present, yes. 48:39 That is amazing. And we want to talk about how you can become 48:46 involved with The Incredible Journey. 48:49 People can pray for you, they can go to your website, 48:51 tell...share a few things. 48:53 Well, first please pray for us, we know that prayer... 48:58 we are taken to the throne of God, the most powerful force 49:03 in the universe. We need prayer. So people, if they remember us 49:08 in their prayers, we will be so grateful. 49:10 They can share this information the program with their friends 49:14 their family, their relatives, their workmates, 49:17 they can tell people about The Incredible Journey 49:21 and how they can watch it. 49:23 Then also we're a faith-based ministry so they may wish to 49:27 support us in whatever way they can and we're always grateful 49:31 for that support. Amen! 49:33 And I want to just ask you a quick question Robin, 49:38 You grew up a Christian, you gave your heart to the Lord 49:41 and I love...I asked her when did it become real for you? 49:44 And she said I can't give you a date, it was a 49:46 progressive thing, I think that happens with most of us 49:49 where it becomes more and more real and more and more in love 49:53 with Him and we only love Him because He first loved us. 49:56 How has being involved in this ministry specifically... 50:00 is it changing your life? 50:02 Aww definitely changing my life because every time we go on 50:07 location which means you are facing all kinds of challenges 50:12 all kinds of difficulties in a country that you don't know 50:16 the culture really well and we have our faith that God will 50:20 watch over us and things will happen and you'll think 50:24 ahh, why did that happen? 50:26 And then in a short time you will look back and say 50:29 He protected you or He guided you and it happens over and over 50:35 again. And you know, I bet this has made you appreciate 50:40 your mom and dad more as missionaries because now you are 50:45 walking in their footsteps essentially. 50:48 We're going to take a quick break, we want you to see 50:53 how you can get involved or getting in touch with 50:58 The Incredible Journey, Gary is the speaker/director, 51:03 Robin is the producer but we have an address roll 51:07 that will give you their phone number, ways to contact them 51:11 if you want to send a donation or how you can visit their 51:14 website, join them on YouTube, you name it, here it is. 51:19 If you would like more information about 51:24 The Incredible Journey, you can write to that at: 51:42 You can call: 51:52 You can find them online at: Or email them at: |
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